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| 04:18.42 | mindjuju | sup herlo |
| 04:26.37 | Utah_Dave | ~tunafart mindjuju |
| 04:26.38 | jbot | ACTION eats a week-old tuna sandwich with relish and walks over to mindjuju, leg raised, to let 'em rip. |
| 04:26.52 | mindjuju | what's that all about utah_dave? |
| 04:26.58 | mindjuju | i even gave you a taco! |
| 04:27.05 | mindjuju | heh |
| 04:27.14 | Utah_Dave | I saw you all alone in there and thought it would be fun to surprise you! |
| 04:27.23 | Utah_Dave | I enjoyed the taco. I was so hungry |
| 04:27.45 | mindjuju | man, i've seen this music video like 20 timex, but can't stop |
| 04:27.55 | mindjuju | do you have just? |
| 04:27.59 | mindjuju | oops, i mean joost |
| 04:28.38 | Utah_Dave | Yeah, but I can't get it to work on Ubuntu |
| 04:28.53 | Utah_Dave | what video are you watching? |
| 04:29.31 | mindjuju | beatfreakz - Somebody's Watching over me |
| 04:29.38 | mindjuju | and Superfreak by them |
| 04:29.48 | Utah_Dave | Oh, I'm not really into techno |
| 04:29.54 | mindjuju | you'd be into this |
| 04:30.12 | mindjuju | it's a remix of 80's michael jackson with a little of everything |
| 04:30.55 | mindjuju | and the lead singer is midget dressed as Michael |
| 04:30.55 | mindjuju | it's totally awesome |
| 04:30.55 | Utah_Dave | Oh, that must be cool then |
| 04:30.56 | Utah_Dave | :) |
| 04:30.56 | Utah_Dave | I'll have to go search for it |
| 04:31.33 | mindjuju | here it is |
| 04:31.35 | mindjuju | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUlz6Gaa2xc |
| 04:33.52 | mindjuju | i love the video cause everybody is taking it seriously, i think they pull it off |
| 04:34.42 | Utah_Dave | cool. I got a sweet stereo system in my office now and I got my laptop hooked up to it |
| 04:34.52 | mindjuju | cool! |
| 04:36.56 | Utah_Dave | that was great! |
| 04:37.04 | mindjuju | don't they pull it off well? |
| 04:37.14 | Utah_Dave | my favorite parts were the guy doing the head spin and his head stays still |
| 04:37.15 | mindjuju | there is no way i could do it, i'd feel like a good |
| 04:37.23 | mindjuju | goon, i mean |
| 04:37.26 | Utah_Dave | and when Mekill Jackson appears |
| 04:37.32 | mindjuju | but they took it serious and landed it |
| 04:37.43 | Utah_Dave | yeah, it was pretty cool |
| 04:38.25 | mindjuju | this vid is awesome too |
| 04:38.25 | mindjuju | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CivLKzRo48Y |
| 04:38.42 | mindjuju | i'd heard of that kind of stunt before with just the jumping, but it is cool to watch |
| 04:39.47 | Utah_Dave | yeah |
| 04:42.12 | Utah_Dave | man, mindjuju, do you always stay up this late working? |
| 04:42.48 | mindjuju | well, not always. today, i split my day in half so Tiffany, my son and I could have dinner and a talk |
| 04:43.32 | mindjuju | he's 4, so every year we talk about "good touching and bad touching" and "what to do when strangers..." |
| 04:43.37 | mindjuju | just to keep it fresh in his head |
| 04:44.00 | Utah_Dave | that's a good idea |
| 04:44.03 | mindjuju | we were planning on going to the Mayan, but who knew it was closed on Mondays? |
| 04:44.18 | Utah_Dave | we had 3 foster kids last year and we had to have that talk a bunch of times |
| 04:45.00 | mindjuju | man, times seem so much harder now then when I was in school, so many pitfalls |
| 04:45.50 | mindjuju | growing up in Houston, there wasn't that much shielding, gangs, drugs, sex, you name it, but things just seem even more focused on that stuff |
| 04:49.43 | Utah_Dave | yeah, it's tough. Kids can't just be kids anymore |
| 04:50.59 | mindjuju | it's soo sad that my son will never know "walking home from school" by himself, or playing in forests with friends |
| 04:51.24 | mindjuju | too dangerous to let them run free, methinks |
| 04:51.45 | Utah_Dave | probably |
| 04:51.56 | Utah_Dave | Well, it's official. |
| 04:52.08 | Utah_Dave | I'm going to the Lehi Rodeo on Friday for the first time |
| 04:52.17 | Utah_Dave | I think that makes me a local now |
| 04:52.28 | mindjuju | first time for Rodeo or first time for lehi rodeo? |
| 04:52.44 | Utah_Dave | Both, I think. |
| 04:52.58 | Utah_Dave | I think I might have gone to a rodeo as a kid. |
| 04:53.00 | mindjuju | oh, it's a State law in Texas, you have to go |
| 04:53.15 | mindjuju | :) |
| 04:53.57 | Utah_Dave | he he |
| 04:54.04 | Utah_Dave | Have you been to the Lehi rodeo? |
| 04:54.55 | mindjuju | nope |
| 04:56.55 | Utah_Dave | my wife has been wanting to go ever since we moved to Lehi. |
| 04:57.55 | mindjuju | are they having a band play? |
| 04:58.52 | Utah_Dave | Uh, I'm not sure. All I know is we're going to watch cowboys ride bulls and rope animals |
| 04:58.53 | Utah_Dave | :) |
| 05:05.23 | Utah_Dave | well, it's off to bed for me. |
| 05:05.31 | mindjuju | cya! |
| 05:05.32 | Utah_Dave | gotta work early tomorrow |
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| 15:09.08 | mgeary | morning all |
| 15:09.23 | beandog | hola |
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| 15:14.58 | josephscott | hello |
| 15:15.06 | josephscott | anyone around? |
| 15:15.16 | wps | I am around, yes |
| 15:15.30 | beandog | nobody here but us chickens |
| 15:16.56 | josephscott | the uphpu blog has spam on it |
| 15:17.24 | josephscott | looks like it is running an older version of WordPress and someone has been injecting spam into posts like this one: http://uphpu.org/2007/03/28/geek-lunch-friday-6-april/ |
| 15:18.21 | timinator | hey guys |
| 15:18.45 | beandog | okay |
| 15:18.53 | beandog | why the crap does unset always throw an error |
| 15:18.55 | beandog | aaaaaaaaaaagh |
| 15:19.02 | timinator | I need to password protect a directory on my server..... very quickly |
| 15:19.08 | timinator | and I don't remember how to do it |
| 15:19.12 | timinator | anyone know? |
| 15:19.17 | beandog | .htaccess ? |
| 15:19.29 | beandog | older version of wordpress? Theres a huge mistake. :) |
| 15:19.47 | timinator | I have access to the http conf file too |
| 15:19.51 | timinator | so either way |
| 15:20.09 | josephscott | is there someone here who admins the uphpu site who can clean it up and update the WordPress install? |
| 15:20.30 | timinator | wps is your man... but he's not in yet |
| 15:21.09 | josephscott | timinator: thanks. Hmmmm, he was here just a few minutes ago |
| 15:21.25 | wps | I'm here |
| 15:21.59 | timinator | oh, right... you're part of the red-man-group |
| 15:22.12 | wps | spam gone |
| 15:22.56 | timinator | wps: do you know how to password protect a web directory |
| 15:23.35 | josephscott | wps: I recall there being a few more posts with similar junk on it, didn't track the URLs though, you may want to just search the posts table for them |
| 15:23.45 | timinator | I know that you add the following to the conf |
| 15:23.58 | timinator | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:23.58 | timinator | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:23.58 | timinator | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:23.59 | timinator | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:24.13 | wps | yes, you can do it with .htaccess |
| 15:24.29 | timinator | but I don't recall how to add a username/password to that /etc/apache/passwd file |
| 15:24.52 | wps | I don't remember either… it's been years since I have done that |
| 15:24.58 | timinator | same here |
| 15:25.00 | wps | there are sure to be plenty of tutorials on line though |
| 15:25.03 | josephscott | I'm moving to the area next month and am looking forward to seeing what the local PHP scene looks like |
| 15:25.05 | wps | I do all my security with PHP now |
| 15:25.13 | timinator | ya |
| 15:25.30 | josephscott | timinator: htpasswd |
| 15:25.32 | wps | I hate http_auth, personally |
| 15:26.13 | josephscott | unfortunately I'm flying back to California the afternoon of the July meeting, so hopefully I'll be around for the August meeting |
| 15:26.22 | timinator | thx josephscott |
| 15:26.30 | josephscott | np |
| 15:27.00 | beandog | wps: you really should upgrade wp, there are some vulns in that old version. |
| 15:27.12 | wps | agreed |
| 15:28.43 | josephscott | unfortunate, but true |
| 15:29.41 | wps | it takes a pinch more time then just unpacking the new files and running the upgrade script though because of some customizations that I have done |
| 15:29.45 | wps | but yes, it needs to be done |
| 15:30.39 | josephscott | I think that has been one of the reasons that a single click upgrade method hasn't really materialized yet, because so many people customize their install quite a bit |
| 15:31.09 | josephscott | not that there's anything wrong with that, I know Matt loves to see people use WordPress in new and different ways |
| 15:31.18 | wps | Matt? |
| 15:31.40 | josephscott | Matt Mullenweg |
| 15:31.47 | wps | who's that? |
| 15:32.02 | josephscott | the guy who started WordPress |
| 15:32.07 | wps | ah |
| 15:32.08 | beandog | I absolutely loath upgrading wordpress |
| 15:33.00 | wps | It's been pretty easy for me… save the extra steps that I have introduced myself because of my hacks |
| 15:33.05 | josephscott | my upgrades have always been pretty painless, but I haven't heavily tweaked it either. |
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| 15:36.25 | mgeary | timinator: did you get your password set? need any help w/ that? |
| 15:36.36 | timinator | I haven't... would love a hand |
| 15:37.00 | mgeary | do you want to limit it to a username + password, or an IP address, or some other criteria? |
| 15:37.18 | timinator | just a username/password |
| 15:37.30 | mgeary | use htpasswd like this |
| 15:37.55 | mgeary | httpasswd -c .htpasswd <username> |
| 15:38.00 | mgeary | it will then prompt you for a password |
| 15:39.01 | timinator | I just did this before you gave a shout: htpasswd -b /etc/apache/passwd username password |
| 15:39.12 | timinator | and it said that it was added |
| 15:40.49 | timinator | so, If I do you're command, it'll create an .htpasswd file in the directory that I'm in? |
| 15:40.52 | timinator | and that's it? |
| 15:41.40 | mgeary | sorry, otp |
| 15:42.01 | mgeary | well, once you have that file, you need to point to it with your .htaccess file |
| 15:42.20 | mgeary | i don |
| 15:42.38 | mgeary | i don't use a global .htpasswd file. i make them per-project as needed |
| 15:42.48 | mgeary | so i don't store them in a place like /etc/<whatever> |
| 15:43.33 | mgeary | is that working for you? what's it doing now? |
| 15:43.39 | timinator | I don't follow |
| 15:43.48 | mgeary | do you have your .htaccess file in place? |
| 15:43.52 | timinator | I created the .htaccess file as you described.... |
| 15:43.59 | timinator | in the dir that I want to protect |
| 15:44.10 | timinator | and it's not requiring a password |
| 15:44.59 | mgeary | are you referencing the .htpasswd file? |
| 15:45.03 | mgeary | with an absolute path? |
| 15:45.12 | mgeary | give me a pastebin of your .htaccess file |
| 15:48.55 | wps | I actually admin six WP installs and need to upgrade them all :) |
| 15:56.54 | mgeary | manoman. the WP code is an awful mess |
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| 16:00.46 | beandog | mgeary: yah |
| 16:03.58 | mgeary | it also drove me slightly crazy when i installed WP multi-user to see that an entirely new set of DB tables was created for each user. Supposedly installs with hundreds of users run just fine, but gosh, that seems clunky |
| 16:04.50 | beandog | heh |
| 16:04.53 | beandog | how long ago was that |
| 16:04.57 | beandog | Im sure its changed by now |
| 16:04.58 | beandog | I hope. |
| 16:05.04 | mgeary | nope |
| 16:05.10 | mgeary | that was, like, 2 months ago tops |
| 16:05.13 | beandog | buh |
| 16:05.17 | beandog | lame. |
| 16:05.22 | mgeary | i asked about it on #wordpress and was told, |
| 16:05.41 | mgeary | "we've got hundreds/thousands/whatever users using this, don't you think we'd have seen problems by now if that didn't work?" |
| 16:05.46 | beandog | well any webapp that uses only mysql obviously doesn tknow what theyre doing. |
| 16:06.06 | beandog | mgeary: heh, thats great. |
| 16:06.18 | beandog | I found some SQL injectionable code when I looked at it a few months ago |
| 16:06.36 | beandog | INSERT INTO user ... $_POST['...'] ... |
| 16:06.37 | beandog | oy |
| 16:24.56 | mgeary | you all know what the real question is, don't you? |
| 16:25.26 | mgeary | the real question is, "will she *really* love me more than any other guy?" 'cause i'm just not sure i should believe all these emails.... |
| 16:26.46 | mgeary | crickets chirp as mgeary's punchline falls without a chuckle |
| 16:28.09 | wps | well, if you take advantage of those "other" (wink… wink) emails first… |
| 16:28.12 | wps | then she is sure to love you more |
| 16:29.26 | wps | improvement + lonely girl from russia = eternal happiness |
| 16:29.35 | wps | yes, mgeary, you really can have it all |
| 16:30.01 | mgeary | well, i'd better get some C1@li$ just in case, though |
| 16:30.14 | wps | and do some investing |
| 16:30.28 | wps | there are some hot stocks that you are take advantage of and be set for life |
| 16:30.41 | mgeary | oh, i already did that. that's why i can consider all these other tantalizing options |
| 16:30.50 | wps | excellent |
| 16:43.27 | timinator | something has come up.... gotta run... later guys |
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| 16:57.58 | wps | did the hot light go on at Krispy Kreme? |
| 16:58.28 | mgeary | heh |
| 17:00.33 | beandog | lol |
| 17:00.57 | jsmith-teaching | Mmmnn... donuts. |
| 17:01.35 | wps | pet peeve of the day: |
| 17:01.48 | wps | websites that have a search box, but it defaults to searching the web |
| 17:01.49 | jsmith-teaching | wps: Me? |
| 17:01.55 | jsmith-teaching | wps: Ah... |
| 17:03.21 | beandog | wps: c'mon man, this is 1995! |
| 17:03.44 | wps | I just don't see why anyone would want that as the default (or ever) behavior |
| 17:08.28 | beandog | my pet peeve is when people still advertise registering online as FREE |
| 17:08.30 | beandog | as if that's a big deal. |
| 17:08.49 | wps | to register an account on a website? |
| 17:08.50 | beandog | when have you ever had to pay money just to have an account? |
| 17:08.55 | beandog | What is this, American Express? |
| 17:09.07 | wps | yeah |
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| 19:33.24 | Utah_Dave | does anyone have a minute for an svn question? |
| 19:33.41 | tierra | shoot |
| 19:33.54 | wps | thbigdog would love to comment on SVN |
| 19:34.07 | Utah_Dave | Ok, I have a python app in svn |
| 19:34.22 | Utah_Dave | I'm working on trunk which is the linux version |
| 19:34.50 | Utah_Dave | but I have a windows version that has everything from the Linux version, plus a few little things to make it work correctly on Windows |
| 19:35.20 | Utah_Dave | I'd like to periodically merge everything from trunk into the windows branch, but I'm a bit confused on how to do that correctly |
| 19:37.13 | tierra | depends on the client you're using, with TortoiseSVN, you would right-click in the folder you want to merge to, select "Merge", and pick the revisions from trunk you want to merge |
| 19:38.19 | tierra | with command line, it's basically the same, only you specify the revision range (and location) first, then the location to merge to |
| 19:38.27 | tierra | (with "svn merge") |
| 19:38.39 | Utah_Dave | OK, I'll give that a try. |
| 19:38.42 | Utah_Dave | thanks, tierra |
| 19:39.03 | tierra | it takes some work to get used to TortoiseSVN's little merge dialog |
| 19:39.12 | tierra | it can be confusing at times |
| 19:41.04 | Utah_Dave | yeah |
| 19:41.33 | tierra | P.S. I really recommend this book for a good explanation of how to manage branches and version control in general in both open source projects as well as closed source: http://urlx.org/amazon.com/3bf88 |
| 19:43.00 | tierra | it was written in the context of CVS, and half of the book does explain CVS commands, but a good chunk of it has some really great material on managing version controlled source that's all SCM-independant |
| 19:43.28 | tierra | worth checking out from the library at least |
| 19:46.43 | Utah_Dave | cool |
| 19:50.19 | tierra | branches aren't usually used to manage multiple ports of applications |
| 19:51.35 | tierra | though there are projects (like the linux kernel) that use multiple branches and continuously merge between them as needed, so it's not unheard of |
| 19:51.49 | mindjuju | gibba[w] - is this the place you recommended a little while ago for geek lunch? http://www.bucadibeppo.com/ |
| 19:51.59 | thebigdog | Utah_Dave, if you are using eclispe you can merge there with it too |
| 19:52.07 | gibba[w] | mindjuju: yeah |
| 19:52.13 | gibba[w] | great food there |
| 19:52.27 | tierra | rol, I always chuckle just a little every time I hear their radio commercials |
| 19:52.35 | Utah_Dave | tierra: what would you recommend in my case? |
| 19:52.43 | mindjuju | cool, geek lunch is next week friday |
| 19:53.02 | thebigdog | Utah_Dave, merging will kill you if you dont do it all the time though |
| 19:53.53 | tierra | Utah_Dave: not sure, depends on if this is closed source, how you handle your release cycles, etc... and I'm no expert by any means |
| 19:54.01 | mindjuju | hey everybody |
| 19:54.07 | mindjuju | next week friday is geek lunch |
| 19:54.34 | mindjuju | buca di beppo is recommended by gibba[w] and looks to be just off the freeway in midvale |
| 19:54.46 | thebigdog | Utah_Dave, basically dont use branches for full development |
| 19:55.05 | Utah_Dave | it will probably be open source, but it's just a little pet project to satisfy an itch here at work and brush up on my python skills |
| 19:55.52 | mindjuju | fungus, this looks veggie friendly |
| 19:56.03 | fungus | buca di beppo sounds great. They have some fungus friendly stuff. |
| 19:56.26 | mindjuju | oooooo.... make reservations online! that makes up for it being a website in .net |
| 19:56.41 | tierra | well, I'm pretty sure you can pull in python modules based on the current platform, so I would lean towards doing both your linux and windows releases from trunk, and branching releases |
| 19:57.16 | tierra | if you can run the script from the same base source code despite the platform, that's always a good thing |
| 19:57.58 | tierra | since if it's setup that way, you won't need to worry about merging at all |
| 19:57.58 | mindjuju | herlo, you around? |
| 19:58.16 | tierra | though you do need to remember to test on both platforms whenever you make changes |
| 19:58.31 | Utah_Dave | tierra: that's true. That may be the best route |
| 19:58.43 | thebigdog | Utah_Dave, a good practice in a scm system is to tag at release time...then start a branch for bug fixes |
| 19:58.56 | thebigdog | then merge those into head after you have fixed the bugs |
| 19:59.04 | tierra | but then you can always do stuff like code freezes to do testing just before releases |
| 19:59.58 | Utah_Dave | cool, that's great advice, tierra and thebigdog. |
| 20:00.00 | Utah_Dave | thanks! |
| 20:00.14 | tierra | yeah, and while bugs pop up, as thebigdog said, you fix them in the branch, and merge them to trunk, and you can run new releases off the branch even if your code is completely torn apart for new features in the trunk |
| 20:00.37 | thebigdog | dont ever merge from trunk/head to branch |
| 20:00.43 | thebigdog | that is a no no |
| 20:01.12 | herlo | mindjuju: I'm here |
| 20:01.27 | mindjuju | yo geek lunch next week friday in midvale |
| 20:01.38 | Utah_Dave | ok |
| 20:01.39 | mindjuju | you bes be there! |
| 20:01.56 | mindjuju | you too, utah_dave |
| 20:01.57 | tierra | at the Buca di Beppo? |
| 20:01.59 | mindjuju | yeah |
| 20:02.03 | mindjuju | can you go tierra? |
| 20:02.05 | Utah_Dave | sounds yummy. |
| 20:02.13 | Utah_Dave | I think I can probably make it |
| 20:02.18 | mindjuju | sweet! |
| 20:02.19 | Utah_Dave | maybe even be on time this time |
| 20:02.22 | tierra | yeah, I can make it this time |
| 20:02.26 | mindjuju | awesome! |
| 20:03.23 | mindjuju | what about you synic -- geek lunch next week friday at buca di beppo in midvale |
| 20:03.35 | mgeary | midvale's too far for me. sorry |
| 20:03.38 | herlo | mindjuju: why? |
| 20:03.49 | herlo | mindjuju: I can make that |
| 20:03.52 | synic | mindjuju: I'm down |
| 20:03.53 | mindjuju | dag! you was next mgeary |
| 20:04.10 | mindjuju | dude, this is going to be packed geek lunch! awesome herlo and synic! |
| 20:04.15 | synic | woot |
| 20:05.14 | thebigdog | hahahahahahah |
| 20:05.27 | thebigdog | ok so im doing admin work for some guys |
| 20:05.39 | thebigdog | they have a graphics guy and sent me some new images in pdf format |
| 20:05.42 | herlo | :) where is it? |
| 20:05.51 | herlo | never been thre |
| 20:05.59 | mindjuju | herlo, in midvale, i'll send out email here shortly |
| 20:06.04 | thebigdog | so i reply back...can you send me some new formats and in svg too |
| 20:06.07 | herlo | mindjuju: we need to make it be at 1:30 or so, is that doable? |
| 20:06.15 | thebigdog | graphics guy replies back "what is svg?" |
| 20:06.21 | mindjuju | i think 1:30 is doable |
| 20:06.23 | herlo | I have a 2hr meeting in provo at 10 |
| 20:06.25 | mgeary | not surprised, thebigdog |
| 20:06.26 | thebigdog | time for a new guy |
| 20:06.31 | herlo | mindjuju: cool |
| 20:06.48 | _psychic_ | CF suxx0rz |
| 20:06.49 | mgeary | speaking of which, i've been meaning to check out Safari 3's svg support |
| 20:06.51 | _psychic_ | mgeary: ^ |
| 20:06.54 | mgeary | hehehehehe |
| 20:06.56 | mgeary | :D |
| 20:09.31 | thebigdog | welcome all to thebigdog show! |
| 20:15.31 | thebigdog | anyone know if foxit reader has a pdf plugin for firefox? |
| 20:16.57 | thebigdog | oh i got it |
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| 20:47.37 | mgeary | hey |
| 20:47.56 | mgeary | i don't wanna dig this up-- how can i make parseInt("08") return 8, rather than 0? |
| 20:49.53 | mgeary | parseInt('08',10); |
| 20:49.56 | mgeary | there we go |
| 21:00.48 | mgeary | ~praise #uphpu |
| 21:00.48 | jbot | All hail #uphpu! |
| 21:30.13 | thebigdog | wps you around? |
| 21:30.45 | wps | yes |
| 21:30.54 | thebigdog | i have a question for ya |
| 21:30.58 | thebigdog | one sec |
| 21:31.22 | thebigdog | i might need to do a screen shot for you real fast |
| 21:32.05 | tierra | Utah_Dave: just purely coincidence, but I just found out that the book I recommended is available free in PDF here: http://cvsbook.red-bean.com/ |
| 21:32.52 | jsmith-teaching | svnbook.com as well |
| 21:33.36 | Utah_Dave | sweet |
| 21:33.48 | tierra | well, I recommended that CVS book specifically because Karl Fogel covers managing branches, patches, etc in a SCM-independant way |
| 21:33.54 | tierra | the SVN book doesn't |
| 21:34.08 | jsmith-teaching | Yeah... it's much more vague on those areas |
| 21:34.21 | jsmith-teaching | But free is good... and I can't say enough about free O'Reilly books |
| 21:35.44 | tierra | yeah, I believe it's right around chapter 6 (on p187) is where that starts |
| 21:35.45 | thebigdog | ok wps |
| 21:35.55 | thebigdog | check this basic form out - http://tinyurl.com/2q8rjo |
| 21:36.17 | wps | k |
| 21:36.22 | thebigdog | wps, my question is what would be another good way to represent that form |
| 21:36.34 | wps | what is the user supposed to be doing? |
| 21:36.35 | thebigdog | basically they can associate assets to an asset group |
| 21:36.48 | tierra | Utah_Dave: and if you are open sourcing the project, chapter 7 + is also interesting |
| 21:37.19 | thebigdog | wps, selecting assets that want in this group |
| 21:37.19 | thebigdog | for display |
| 21:37.19 | thebigdog | the check means it is in the group |
| 21:37.46 | thebigdog | im just wondering if there would be a friendly way to accomplish the same thing |
| 21:38.42 | wps | while I think about it, a few other recommendations |
| 21:38.57 | thebigdog | yes |
| 21:39.05 | wps | submit and cancel buttons should not be next to each other… too easy to accidently click the wrong one |
| 21:39.21 | thebigdog | k |
| 21:39.27 | wps | I would flush the submit right and the cancel left |
| 21:39.40 | thebigdog | sounds goood |
| 21:39.50 | wps | things on the right communicate moving forward (progression) and things on the left communicated going back (canceling) |
| 21:40.23 | thebigdog | so switch those around? |
| 21:40.41 | wps | that said, you checkboxes will now be on the opposite side of the screen as the submit button… which isn't good… so I would move the column with the checkmarks to the far right of the table |
| 21:41.09 | thebigdog | and the submit on the far right? |
| 21:41.15 | wps | yes |
| 21:41.22 | thebigdog | would you do checkboxes here? |
| 21:41.50 | thebigdog | or another method? |
| 21:42.07 | thebigdog | like textarea boxes that shuttle back and forth? or something else? |
| 21:42.50 | wps | yes, that is a good convention… it is a little easier for users to visualize which ones are part of the group when they can actually see them grouped together |
| 21:43.05 | herlo | independent has no 'a' |
| 21:43.23 | wps | so, yes, I would probably recommend two multi-select text areas side-by-side with left/right arrows between that allow them to add/remove items from the group |
| 21:43.58 | thebigdog | k |
| 21:44.15 | thebigdog | you know of any js for that? |
| 21:47.04 | bradym | thebigdog: http://www.mattkruse.com/javascript/optiontransfer/ |
| 21:47.31 | bradym | i'm using that on a couple sites |
| 21:48.36 | wps | I have done it on a few sites, but it has all been custom |
| 21:48.43 | wps | not a library that I could just point you to |
| 21:51.27 | thebigdog | ~love bradym |
| 21:51.28 | jbot | If you love bradym so much, why don't you marry it? (oooooh) |
| 21:57.24 | synic | snap! |
| 22:08.32 | thebigdog | mapping images suck |
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| 22:25.18 | mgeary | well how 'bout that. i just learned something |
| 22:25.49 | mgeary | you know the line, "get along little dogies" ? well, i always wondered about "dogies". turns out it's an orphan cow :) |
| 22:26.01 | mgeary | that's useful to know |
| 22:34.17 | bradym | yeah, it might just win you a million dollars some day |
| 22:34.26 | bradym | :) |
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| 22:56.27 | thebigdog | wps you still around? |
| 22:56.40 | wps | yes |
| 22:57.19 | thebigdog | what are you thoughts on cancel button versus back as the text label? |
| 22:57.36 | thebigdog | right now i have cancel...i was thinking of doing back as the text |
| 22:58.01 | wps | I would prefer back |
| 22:58.30 | thebigdog | k |
| 22:58.37 | thebigdog | that was my thought |
| 22:58.47 | thebigdog | i also changed submit to save |
| 23:01.05 | wps | good |
| 23:03.09 | thebigdog | im going to be a guru someday |
| 23:03.11 | thebigdog | :) |
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