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| 05:54.23 | jbot | ACTION lectures jbot on properly designed databases, normalization, writing quality code with comments, and active-voice writing until jbot can't take anymore and goes berserk. |
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| 05:55.20 | jbot | jbot is, like, a hack!, or known to have only said one useful thing. |
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| 05:55.47 | jbot | well, brasto is a day late and a dollar short, or looks good when he's going to the prom, or cool, or cool, or a nerd, or not available |
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| 05:57.03 | jbot | HTML-embedded scripting language. URL: http://www.php.net/ |
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| 05:58.11 | jbot | La ... lalalala ... beer! |
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| 15:23.44 | mgeary | morning |
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| 15:36.13 | _psychic__ | morning mgeary |
| 15:36.59 | thebigdog | ~morning all |
| 15:37.00 | jbot | ACTION bends space and time, trapping all in a universe of eternal monday mornings |
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| 15:37.47 | mgeary | hey |
| 15:37.50 | mgeary | hrmm |
| 15:37.56 | mgeary | can't see what's being written. dang colloquy |
| 15:37.59 | mgeary | one sec |
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| 15:38.41 | mgeary | grr. still can't see any output |
| 15:38.52 | mgeary | gonna reboot |
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| 15:45.17 | wps | mgeary: you don't happen to be using Andrew Jacob's custom build of Colloquy are you? |
| 15:45.23 | mgeary | oh for cryin' out loud |
| 15:45.47 | mgeary | apparently updating to the Safari 3 beta has broken Colloquy |
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| 15:50.13 | mgeary | hey |
| 15:50.16 | mgeary | there we go |
| 15:50.18 | mgeary | sheesh |
| 15:50.47 | mgeary | trashed my Colloquy prefs. seems to have done the trick |
| 15:51.15 | wps | so you just dumped the prefs? no new binary? |
| 15:51.26 | mgeary | also got the latest binary, but it's the same build # |
| 15:51.33 | mgeary | and initially it didn't work either |
| 15:51.42 | wps | very interesting |
| 15:51.44 | mgeary | until i trashed the Colloquy folder in ~/Library/Application Support |
| 15:51.59 | mgeary | but hey, Safari 3++ |
| 15:52.24 | wps | definitely |
| 15:52.28 | wps | many improvements |
| 15:52.32 | mgeary | yep |
| 15:52.52 | wps | and about dang time you can reorder and drag/drop tabs |
| 15:53.02 | mgeary | oh yeah? haven't tried that yet. nice |
| 15:53.10 | mgeary | i like that you can finally style buttons |
| 15:53.21 | wps | yup |
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| 15:53.48 | wps | R.I.P. aqua |
| 15:56.31 | mgeary | oh yeah. re-ording tabs++ |
| 15:56.54 | wps | and I like being able to pull them off and into their own or a different window |
| 15:56.59 | mgeary | sweet |
| 15:57.26 | _psychic_ | I can't use safari until it has firebug |
| 15:57.44 | mgeary | it's got the activity viewer, which is the single must-have feature for me |
| 15:58.08 | _psychic_ | fb has that, plus times and what is from cache |
| 15:58.32 | _psychic_ | the fb console shows requests too (ajax, etc) |
| 15:58.41 | mgeary | so does AV |
| 15:58.49 | _psychic_ | AV? |
| 15:58.55 | mgeary | Activity Viewer |
| 15:59.07 | mgeary | the *one* thing i hate about the AV is that Apple made it so it wouldn't show QuickTimes. !@$@$%$% |
| 15:59.31 | mgeary | hey, what's that popular markup style called, that people often use to style text in blog entries? |
| 16:00.26 | _psychic_ | textile? |
| 16:00.29 | _psychic_ | markdown? |
| 16:00.33 | _psychic_ | bbcode? |
| 16:00.49 | mgeary | yeah. textile, i think.thanks |
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| 16:30.33 | mgeary | sweet!! |
| 16:30.56 | mgeary | Safari 3 captures tabular data as tabular data now (like Firefox). |
| 16:31.06 | mgeary | (in copy/paste, that is) |
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| 18:51.21 | thebigdog | good thing right? |
| 18:57.52 | mgeary | 'course |
| 19:13.40 | thebigdog | oh monday is great!!! |
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| 19:31.05 | tierra | it's sad that IE6 still accounts for more than 50% of our traffic :( |
| 19:33.33 | tierra | I really think that IE6 usage (at least from WinXP users) is a really good indicator of how many illegal copies of Windows XP are floating around since an upgrade to IE7 isn't currently all that easy without a legal copy |
| 19:36.19 | mgeary | it'd be interesting to break that down by region |
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| 19:40.02 | tierra | numbers by region would be hard to get useful stats since every site attracts a different kind of crowd, you'd need some average combined stats for that |
| 19:40.41 | tierra | a good chunk of my traffic comes from Adwords targeted at U.S. residents for example |
| 19:47.36 | orsonj | This week: IE6=38% IE7=29% FF=22% |
| 19:48.48 | orsonj | well, FF=26% if you count all the odd sub,sub versions |
| 19:50.57 | tierra | IE = 83%, FF = 12% (of which, 6% is probably our own traffic which I have yet to get correctly filtered out) |
| 19:57.59 | mgeary | it's crazy |
| 19:58.15 | mgeary | i hardly know *anyone* who uses IE |
| 19:58.21 | mgeary | the great, unwashed masses |
| 19:59.51 | tierra | I know many of my relatives that use IE just because "it's there"... |
| 20:08.20 | timinator | yes |
| 20:08.50 | timinator | and those same relatives will probably upgrade only when necessary |
| 20:10.22 | timinator | so, I see the 50% IE6 market share as being indicative of the number of people who are not tech savvy or have an old CPU |
| 20:11.40 | timinator | (but I'm a Mac guy and don't really care about IE so much) |
| 20:11.43 | timinator | :) |
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| 20:35.38 | tierra | timinator: I'm talking about Windows XP users though, for which Windows XP default settings enable Automatic Updates, and IE7 is in fact a "forced" critical update and has been for a long time now |
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| 20:38.02 | mindjuju | not sure what to make of this? --> http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=11029793&ps=bb4 |
| 20:38.06 | tierra | the numbers should come out closer to maybe 80% IE7 and maybe 20% IE6, except that the IE7 critical update requires a WGA check before updating, hence my belief that those numbers really in a way indicate illegal copies of Windows XP |
| 20:42.35 | bradym | true, but don't forget the companies with IT groups who have decided not to move up to ie7 for whatever reason |
| 20:42.48 | bradym | and whose users can't install it themselves |
| 20:43.00 | tierra | yeah, there is that |
| 20:43.26 | tierra | but those numbers should be pretty low by now |
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| 20:44.39 | beandog | we got any apache gurus in here? I cannot figure this out. |
| 20:44.59 | beandog | I need an alias / redirect / addhandler or something ... with minimal changes to an .htaccess since the server setups are so different. |
| 20:45.14 | beandog | basically want foobar/authenticate to goto foobar/authenticate.php |
| 20:45.28 | beandog | or display it, or something. |
| 20:45.33 | beandog | or have authenticate load as a php file. |
| 20:45.34 | mgeary | mod_rewrite |
| 20:45.45 | bradym | yup |
| 20:45.46 | mgeary | is it just that particular file? |
| 20:45.51 | beandog | I tried that, but I need to use the /directory/authenticate |
| 20:45.51 | mgeary | or all files |
| 20:45.53 | beandog | which I cant do |
| 20:45.56 | beandog | since its different on live |
| 20:46.18 | beandog | just one file |
| 20:47.06 | mgeary | do you care if it redirects, rather than passes the data through? |
| 20:47.11 | beandog | no |
| 20:47.29 | mgeary | you could use <location> |
| 20:47.31 | mgeary | one sec |
| 20:47.51 | mgeary | something like this: |
| 20:48.26 | tierra | you can use mod_rewrite inside <VirtualHost> definitions, thus having different mod_rewrite lines for each server, but you can also use mod_rewrite in server independent ways, but I don't know your setup enough to know how hard that would be |
| 20:49.08 | mgeary | this might work: http://dpaste.com/12492/ |
| 20:49.30 | beandog | Hmm |
| 20:49.37 | mgeary | i used Location recently on a redirect. trying to remember where |
| 20:49.56 | mgeary | the nice thing about Location is that it operates on a Web-Friendly url, rather than a file system address |
| 20:50.20 | mgeary | so you shouldn't have to change it based on server config |
| 20:54.31 | mgeary | is that workign? |
| 20:57.03 | beandog | no. |
| 20:57.07 | beandog | im getting apache errors |
| 20:57.08 | beandog | buh. |
| 20:57.10 | beandog | sec. |
| 20:57.54 | mgeary | did you put that <location> inside your virtual host? |
| 20:58.03 | beandog | yah, wont let me use <Location |
| 20:58.24 | mgeary | weird |
| 20:59.32 | mgeary | anyone know of any irc channels where a bunch of Photoshop gurus would hang out? |
| 20:59.55 | wps | I started one, but one but only 1.5 people have come so far |
| 20:59.57 | wps | #ugaf |
| 21:00.08 | wps | it's run by the Utah Graphic Artists Forum |
| 21:00.41 | mgeary | i can see you |
| 21:00.44 | mgeary | heh |
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| 21:03.37 | wps | thebigdog is _the_ guru |
| 21:03.53 | thebigdog | ~hail thebigdog |
| 21:03.53 | jbot | ACTION bows down to thebigdog and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" |
| 21:10.39 | mindjuju | mgeary, did you have a photoshop question that somebody may have the answer to here? |
| 21:10.48 | mgeary | i'm asking it over in #ugaf |
| 21:11.51 | mindjuju | cool |
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| 21:48.04 | mgeary | hey, by the way all, we hired somebody :) next we're looking for a production-(mid)level designer with good HTML experience. Anyone got any hot leads? |
| 21:50.56 | mgeary | well, craigslist worked out fairly well on our last opening... |
| 21:51.29 | mindjuju | not like freakin' monster that is 500 for 3 postings or some noise like that |
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| 21:52.12 | thebigdog | does monster provide an rss search feed? |
| 21:52.32 | thebigdog | i would love a rss job feed |
| 21:52.36 | mindjuju | don't remember, didn't make it past the price tag |
| 21:52.51 | mindjuju | oh, for job searching? prolly no |
| 21:53.02 | mindjuju | they make $$ on the page ads, |
| 21:53.14 | thebigdog | true |
| 21:53.29 | wps | no, they don't |
| 21:53.29 | thebigdog | like if craigslist did that would be way cool |
| 21:53.35 | wps | but indeed does |
| 21:53.43 | wps | and they are an agreegator and include monster listing |
| 21:53.47 | wps | listings |
| 21:53.50 | wps | indeed rocks |
| 21:54.08 | mindjuju | indeed? is that like www.indeed.com ? |
| 21:54.27 | thebigdog | ~google |
| 21:54.28 | jbot | google is probably a search engine found at http://www.google.com/ |
| 21:54.31 | wps | you can do a custom search (location and job keywords) and then they provide an RSS feed of the search results that up-to-date each time you refresh your feed |
| 21:54.33 | thebigdog | ~google indeed |
| 21:54.36 | wps | yes, indeed.com |
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| 21:54.56 | thebigdog | that is a cool idea |
| 21:54.56 | wps | welcome, gibba[w] |
| 21:55.06 | thebigdog | im starting to enjoy rss feeds more and more |
| 21:55.08 | mindjuju | i don't search job boards unless im hiring (during work hours, that is) |
| 21:55.18 | wps | riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight |
| 21:55.50 | thebigdog | :) |
| 21:55.54 | thebigdog | any good news wps? |
| 21:56.06 | wps | very… it's just up to me |
| 21:59.23 | mindjuju | man, some day when I have time, i've got to finish that music vid of thebigdog |
| 21:59.43 | thebigdog | that would be funny |
| 21:59.50 | thebigdog | axe finished it for ya though |
| 22:00.00 | mindjuju | axe? |
| 22:00.13 | thebigdog | axe body spray...i swear they ripped me off |
| 22:00.32 | mindjuju | haven't seen the commercial |
| 22:00.53 | thebigdog | very funny |
| 22:01.05 | mindjuju | hey, thebigdog, what do you use to plan out a workflow |
| 22:01.21 | thebigdog | like software? |
| 22:01.23 | mindjuju | i'm trying to use visio, but there are so many little icons i can use, i feel like it's too much gun |
| 22:01.26 | mindjuju | yeah, software |
| 22:01.45 | mindjuju | i usually do it with pencil and quadrille paper |
| 22:01.48 | thebigdog | dia |
| 22:01.53 | mindjuju | but, wanted to upgrade |
| 22:02.01 | mindjuju | ~wiki dia |
| 22:02.22 | mgeary | dia = "slide" in German (as in "slideshow") |
| 22:02.41 | mindjuju | i used to like a girl named dia, but that was when i was like 12 |
| 22:03.41 | thebigdog | mindjuju, it is a nice little program |
| 22:03.48 | thebigdog | you need to have gtk installed to use it though |
| 22:03.55 | mindjuju | looking at it now, but it seems to be linux only |
| 22:04.16 | thebigdog | http://dia-installer.de/index.html |
| 22:04.22 | mindjuju | oh, i guess they do have a win install |
| 22:04.23 | mindjuju | yeah |
| 22:04.29 | thebigdog | http://live.gnome.org/Dia/Screenshots |
| 22:05.39 | thebigdog | i have used it for a couple different things |
| 22:05.52 | bradym | mindjuju: I like to use FreeMind (http://freemind.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page) it's a different kind of app than dia/visio, but I like it for doing site layouts |
| 22:07.07 | mgeary | OmniGraffle is good on the Mac |
| 22:07.27 | wps | Omnigraffle++ |
| 22:08.07 | thebigdog | i like dia cause i do a couple different things that it supports |
| 22:08.25 | thebigdog | lol...you mac guys |
| 22:08.51 | thebigdog | man only if i had 4k to get me a nice mac |
| 22:09.03 | mgeary | dude. you can get a very decent Mac for $800 |
| 22:09.07 | thebigdog | and another 1k to buy all the cool programs |
| 22:09.19 | thebigdog | i want a 17" powerbook pro |
| 22:09.31 | mgeary | okay, then $2600 |
| 22:09.31 | mindjuju | that's what I want to buy my wife |
| 22:09.41 | mgeary | far cry from $4k |
| 22:09.50 | mindjuju | take out her xp box and replace it with the powerbook |
| 22:09.51 | thebigdog | $2799 plus all the upgrades |
| 22:09.58 | thebigdog | i would get 4g ram on that though |
| 22:10.09 | mgeary | don't *ever* buy RAM from Apple |
| 22:10.14 | mgeary | it's like, 3x market price |
| 22:10.18 | thebigdog | oh really |
| 22:10.22 | thebigdog | that is good to know |
| 22:10.24 | mgeary | used to be, anyway |
| 22:10.29 | wps | still is |
| 22:10.43 | wps | they want $750 for 4 GB of RAM for the Powerbook |
| 22:10.47 | thebigdog | can the mac stores install new memory |
| 22:10.51 | wps | you can get it for $250 elsewhere |
| 22:10.53 | mgeary | you can do it yourself |
| 22:10.55 | mgeary | it's easy |
| 22:10.59 | wps | very easy |
| 22:11.01 | mgeary | but yes, stores can as well |
| 22:11.02 | thebigdog | does that break warranty? |
| 22:11.04 | mgeary | no |
| 22:11.07 | mgeary | only in the Mini |
| 22:11.15 | thebigdog | oh cool |
| 22:11.22 | mgeary | you can swap hard drive and memory in laptops |
| 22:11.29 | thebigdog | when it is time..i will be asking you guys some questions |
| 22:11.37 | thebigdog | nice |
| 22:12.27 | thebigdog | i thought about getting a mini and then getting some more features on it |
| 22:12.41 | mgeary | we bought a 1.86 GHz mini for our new hire |
| 22:12.54 | mgeary | for development work (text editing, ssh, etc.) it's very decent |
| 22:13.44 | wps | thebigdog: don't you need a 3 GHz Mac Pro with a terabyte of storage and 16 GB or RAM? |
| 22:14.11 | thebigdog | i would take it...but that would break jsmith's banck |
| 22:14.37 | thebigdog | i did purchase a new dell rack server though |
| 22:14.40 | thebigdog | got a killer deal |
| 22:15.00 | thebigdog | 2 3ghz dcores with 8g ram |
| 22:15.14 | mgeary | for....? |
| 22:15.16 | mindjuju | did ya'll see that blog about how to get the best deals on dell.com? |
| 22:15.16 | thebigdog | 3 136g 15k scsi drives |
| 22:15.32 | thebigdog | for drip and his project |
| 22:15.42 | thebigdog | it is there new dev box |
| 22:15.56 | thebigdog | mindjuju, go through a partner of dell |
| 22:15.59 | thebigdog | that is what we do |
| 22:16.01 | mgeary | thebigdog: no, for... $? |
| 22:16.09 | mgeary | what's a killer deal for such a package? |
| 22:16.13 | wps | I just configured a box for you on store.apple.com |
| 22:16.19 | wps | $16,775.00 |
| 22:16.24 | mindjuju | heh |
| 22:16.24 | thebigdog | ouch |
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| 22:17.50 | wps | http://pastebin.ca/575210 |
| 22:18.14 | thebigdog | mgeary, around 4k or so |
| 22:18.28 | mgeary | nice |
| 22:18.36 | thebigdog | wps, when you add the monitors it is a lot |
| 22:18.39 | mgeary | though i'm sick of SCSI and happy to be dealing with firewire these days |
| 22:18.56 | wps | the displays are only $3,000 of that |
| 22:18.59 | thebigdog | we got the smaller hds though |
| 22:19.13 | thebigdog | my last 11tb cost around 10k |
| 22:19.35 | thebigdog | wps, the might mouse must have pushed it over $16k |
| 22:19.41 | wps | :) |
| 22:19.45 | timinator | LOL |
| 22:19.59 | thebigdog | the mac might mouse |
| 22:20.04 | thebigdog | i loved that cartoon |
| 22:25.56 | thebigdog | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mighty_Mouse |
| 22:28.00 | wps | most of the price of that 16k, thebigdog, is RAM |
| 22:28.10 | thebigdog | yeah |
| 22:28.25 | wps | for example, to add 32 GB of RAM to an Xserve, it's $23,000 |
| 22:32.58 | thebigdog | that is so crazzzy |
| 22:37.15 | thebigdog | what would you use a mac for with that much memory? |
| 22:38.23 | wps | anything you'd us any other server for with that much memory |
| 22:38.31 | wps | some sort of super computer |
| 22:40.16 | thebigdog | that seems pricey for 32G ram |
| 22:40.50 | wps | well, like mgeary said, they mark it up 300% |
| 22:42.33 | thebigdog | like a dell pe 6950 w/ 32g ram starts @ 12k |
| 22:43.58 | thebigdog | wps how many procs did that have 2? |
| 22:44.35 | wps | Two 3.0GHz Dual-Core Intel Xeon |
| 22:45.04 | thebigdog | wow, that surprises me that they only have 2 for 32g ram |
| 22:45.21 | thebigdog | most of the time you see 4cpus on boxes with 32g |
| 22:46.34 | thebigdog | so spark.net is hiring |
| 22:47.13 | thebigdog | you can make up to 90k |
| 22:48.11 | wps | anyone familiar with that company? |
| 22:48.14 | wps | what do they do? |
| 22:50.08 | thebigdog | i just saw the email |
| 22:50.15 | thebigdog | but hey you can make up to 90k |
| 22:52.05 | _psychic__ | yeah making dating websites |
| 22:53.03 | dataw0lf | hey, some of you could use the help |
| 22:53.41 | _psychic__ | making money at work? |
| 23:06.04 | thebigdog | ~seen Lone_Wanderer |
| 23:06.06 | jbot | lone_wanderer <n=Lone_Wan@cg.dsl.xmission.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #utah, 7d 4h 11m 5s ago, saying: 'He said that the book of Ether was the only appropriately named book.'. |
| 23:07.18 | thebigdog | ~seen eco |
| 23:07.19 | jbot | eco is currently on #utah (3h 37m 24s), last said: 'Huh what?'. |
| 23:07.20 | mindjuju | yeah, where is that guy? |
| 23:07.33 | thebigdog | sometimes its funny to see their last comment |
| 23:07.44 | eco | Huh what? |
| 23:08.41 | thebigdog | ~seen beandog |
| 23:08.42 | jbot | beandog is currently on #utah (2h 24m 19s) #uphpu (2h 24m 19s). Has said a total of 16 messages. Is idling for 2h 10m 39s, last said: 'yah, wont let me use <Location'. |
| 23:08.47 | beandog | oy. |
| 23:08.53 | beandog | I just walked in. |
| 23:09.25 | thebigdog | ~seen macnewbold |
| 23:09.26 | jbot | macnewbold is currently on #utah (3h 39m 32s), last said: 'not yet'. |
| 23:09.40 | thebigdog | ~seen unum |
| 23:09.41 | jbot | unum is currently on #utah #uphpu. Has said a total of 19 messages. Is idling for 3d 1h 17m 57s, last said: '"yes we would like to be able to add apples and oranges"'. |
| 23:09.47 | thebigdog | haha |
| 23:09.52 | macnewbold | ~bonk thebigdog |
| 23:09.53 | jbot | ACTION bonks thebigdog over the head |
| 23:10.06 | thebigdog | well look he is alive still |
| 23:10.13 | macnewbold | ~lart thebigdog |
| 23:10.13 | jbot | judo chops thebigdog |
| 23:10.20 | macnewbold | sup, dawg? |
| 23:10.36 | thebigdog | hey i was going to tell you that boca is playing sl soccer real in july |
| 23:10.45 | thebigdog | not sure if you are a boca fan |
| 23:10.53 | beandog | river |
| 23:10.55 | mindjuju | sup macnewbold |
| 23:11.03 | mindjuju | hadn't seen ya in a bit |
| 23:11.05 | thebigdog | oh you guys suck |
| 23:11.27 | thebigdog | river---- |
| 23:11.31 | thebigdog | boca++++ |
| 23:11.58 | thebigdog | then perhaps you guys need to go and cheer for slrs |
| 23:11.59 | macnewbold | how's it going, mindjuju |
| 23:12.05 | macnewbold | s/boca/river/ |
| 23:12.14 | thebigdog | cause ill be the only guy over on the other side |
| 23:12.16 | mindjuju | not bad, kickin' it; keeping it real |
| 23:12.23 | mindjuju | how bout you? |
| 23:12.27 | macnewbold | I've got a river plate jersey, wouldn't ever touch the blue and gold, thebigdog |
| 23:12.34 | macnewbold | I'm doing okay |
| 23:12.38 | thebigdog | lol |
| 23:12.45 | macnewbold | been working from home (sans IRC) a lot more lately |
| 23:12.49 | thebigdog | i need to buy a new boca jr jersey |
| 23:13.14 | mindjuju | working from home sounds cool |
| 23:13.17 | thebigdog | i should buy the family all one and go and watch |
| 23:13.17 | macnewbold | wife is expecting, and has hard pregnancies, and 3 young boys at home that could easily be mistaken for poorly trained monkeys |
| 23:13.27 | thebigdog | haha |
| 23:13.30 | thebigdog | kids are great |
| 23:13.33 | mindjuju | hilarious! |
| 23:13.36 | macnewbold | so i've been trying to help out more |
| 23:13.46 | mindjuju | sorry to hear wife has hard pregnancies |
| 23:13.50 | mgeary | when's she due, Mac? |
| 23:13.50 | thebigdog | my son took a digger today and we had to take him to the hospital |
| 23:14.06 | macnewbold | mgeary: about dec. 1 |
| 23:14.11 | mgeary | ah, a while yet |
| 23:14.11 | macnewbold | it may be a long summer |
| 23:14.15 | mgeary | :/ |
| 23:14.16 | macnewbold | a digger, thebigdog? |
| 23:14.26 | macnewbold | like digger.org, the video game? that rocks |
| 23:14.43 | thebigdog | yeah he landed on his face and got knocked out cold for a few minute |
| 23:14.50 | thebigdog | stopped breathing too |
| 23:14.56 | mgeary | jeeze |
| 23:14.59 | mindjuju | oh wow |
| 23:15.01 | thebigdog | had to call paramedicos |
| 23:15.01 | mgeary | how old is he? |
| 23:15.04 | thebigdog | 2yrs |
| 23:15.11 | mgeary | urgh. that'll scare ya |
| 23:15.18 | thebigdog | hes ok...got a nice concussion |
| 23:15.27 | mgeary | how'd ya get the breathing started? |
| 23:15.28 | thebigdog | hell ya...scared the wife big time |
| 23:15.45 | thebigdog | wife got him going |
| 23:15.59 | mgeary | cpr? whack on the back? |
| 23:16.08 | mindjuju | pail of water to the face? |
| 23:16.11 | thebigdog | probably whack |
| 23:16.23 | thebigdog | probably his body tooo |
| 23:16.41 | thebigdog | his face is all brusied up |
| 23:16.46 | mgeary | man, that's awful. glad he's okay |
| 23:16.53 | mindjuju | yeah |
| 23:16.56 | thebigdog | yeah it sucks getting the phone call from the wife |
| 23:17.09 | thebigdog | when i went up there he was strapped in his car seat |
| 23:17.19 | thebigdog | he saw me and started calling me over there |
| 23:17.32 | thebigdog | then told me, "Dad i got to ride in the fire truck!" |
| 23:17.47 | mgeary | heh. did you ask him for the $700 that's gonna cost? |
| 23:17.55 | mindjuju | yeah |
| 23:17.56 | thebigdog | i know |
| 23:18.04 | thebigdog | $800 is the bill i think |
| 23:18.10 | mgeary | in Orem it's $700 |
| 23:18.19 | thebigdog | we went to mckay dee |
| 23:18.24 | mgeary | come here next time you're gonna get hurt. save $100 |
| 23:18.30 | mindjuju | i know this sounds bad, but i'm keeping the receipts, so that when Corban is a teenager and thinks i don't "own him" i can pull out the receipts and show him that i do |
| 23:18.39 | mgeary | heh. seriously |
| 23:18.40 | thebigdog | lol |
| 23:18.43 | thebigdog | that is what i need to do |
| 23:18.55 | thebigdog | that was non emergency so it might be cheap |
| 23:19.03 | thebigdog | they got him stable and did not run with lights on |
| 23:19.12 | thebigdog | so perhaps $500 |
| 23:19.16 | mgeary | nope |
| 23:19.24 | thebigdog | probably all the same |
| 23:19.25 | mgeary | get this-- |
| 23:19.51 | mgeary | i know someone who was pulled over for speeding. the cop wanted her to get out of the car, but she tripped over his foot while getting out |
| 23:20.00 | mgeary | the cop thought she was having a seizure, so he called the paramedics |
| 23:20.08 | thebigdog | haha |
| 23:20.13 | thebigdog | he got the bill? |
| 23:20.16 | mgeary | she insisted she was fine. the paramedics came, they insisted on taking her |
| 23:20.21 | thebigdog | oh man |
| 23:20.28 | mgeary | no sirens, no nothign |
| 23:20.30 | mgeary | $700 |
| 23:20.40 | thebigdog | yeah that sucks |
| 23:20.41 | mindjuju | she can absolutely refuse treatment |
| 23:20.50 | mindjuju | and then sign a form |
| 23:20.58 | mgeary | the cop threatened to arrest her if she didn't go with them. it was a huge mess |
| 23:21.01 | thebigdog | they probably towed her car |
| 23:21.06 | thebigdog | oh that sucks |
| 23:21.06 | mindjuju | oh |
| 23:21.08 | mgeary | he was obviously covering his @$$ |
| 23:21.10 | thebigdog | check this out |
| 23:21.24 | thebigdog | i have a daughter that needs ot go to primary's alot |
| 23:21.37 | thebigdog | so when she was first sick we took her to davis hospital |
| 23:22.00 | thebigdog | they did not have the right equipment for her so they put her in an ambulance and sent her to primay's |
| 23:22.26 | thebigdog | our insurance called us and said the ambulance ride is not covered cause they dont work with that provider |
| 23:22.39 | thebigdog | i had to pay the whole thing |
| 23:22.53 | mindjuju | ugh |
| 23:22.56 | thebigdog | i argued about how im suppose to pick the right ambulance before we use it |
| 23:22.57 | mgeary | healthcare is so broken in this country |
| 23:22.57 | mindjuju | that stinks big time |
| 23:23.08 | mgeary | insurance companies have *ruined* it |
| 23:23.12 | thebigdog | like im suppose to ask them if i can use it or not |
| 23:23.15 | thebigdog | yeah |
| 23:23.24 | mindjuju | well, i don't blame it all on insurance companies |
| 23:23.33 | thebigdog | i lost both legs...are you sure i cant ride in that one |
| 23:23.36 | thebigdog | :) |
| 23:23.45 | mindjuju | not when you have tv ads that say "have you gotten hurt anywhere besides your home?" |
| 23:23.55 | thebigdog | haha |
| 23:23.58 | mindjuju | national ads finding local lawyers to cover ya |
| 23:24.32 | mindjuju | totally agree, medicine in the states is bad, but there are several contributing factors IMNSHO |
| 23:25.36 | mindjuju | i hate it cause, you hear about a lawsuit where some doc does a small mistake and is sued for hundreds of millions, making me want to limit lawsuit abuse, but then you hear of a doc making a huge mistake that cost somebody their life |
| 23:25.47 | mindjuju | v hard to find the median |
| 23:26.02 | thebigdog | very hard |
| 23:26.35 | thebigdog | i know a couple good doctors that dont practice for that reason...it is not worth it |
| 23:26.48 | mindjuju | i can imagine |
| 23:27.07 | mindjuju | then you hear about that lady that was lying on the floor for 45 minutes in LA emergency room who died |
| 23:27.38 | mindjuju | i promise, one of the first things the hospital admin being interviewed said " well and she wasn't insured..." |
| 23:28.56 | thebigdog | haah |
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| 23:31.13 | thebigdog | man that song has a killer riff |
| 23:31.34 | mindjuju | which? |
| 23:31.40 | thebigdog | ^ |
| 23:31.46 | mindjuju | oh, never heard of it |
| 23:31.59 | thebigdog | oh man it is a great song..the album is killer too |
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