| 00:02.49 | timinator | I'm out... later guys |
| 00:23.54 | Lone_Wanderer | How can a page be missing "at times"? |
| 00:25.29 | mindjuju | like it gives a 404 ? |
| 00:25.34 | Lone_Wanderer | I don't know. |
| 00:25.42 | mindjuju | what's the URL? |
| 00:25.44 | Lone_Wanderer | She just said (page names) seem to be missing at times. |
| 00:26.40 | mindjuju | curious, since it's from a client, a "page name" could really be anything |
| 00:27.11 | Lone_Wanderer | It's not actually from a client. |
| 00:27.17 | Lone_Wanderer | And (page names) is a placeholder. |
| 00:27.34 | Lone_Wanderer | She actually said "Abdo perfusion/No such thing seem to be missing at times...." |
| 00:27.57 | mindjuju | curious |
| 00:28.56 | Lone_Wanderer | This is the same person I've talked about before. |
| 00:29.19 | Lone_Wanderer | Let's just say that she has an MBA. |
| 00:30.52 | mindjuju | MBA as in Masters in Business Admin or MBA - Masters in Bull$!+ Artistry |
| 00:31.02 | Lone_Wanderer | Either one. |
| 00:31.21 | Lone_Wanderer | Some of both actually. I make use of the second one a lot. |
| 00:31.36 | mindjuju | must be hard to work with her |
| 00:31.39 | Lone_Wanderer | A client will call and say "Hey why isn't our web site done?" and I'll give her the technical reason (which is valid but they wouldn't understand it) |
| 00:31.50 | Lone_Wanderer | and she'll give them a completely different reason and make it sound like it's their fault :D |
| 00:31.57 | Lone_Wanderer | It can be at times. She's a good asset to the company. |
| 00:32.09 | Lone_Wanderer | But there are a lot of times when we don't see eye to eye. |
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| 13:32.35 | timinator | yawn |
| 13:32.38 | timinator | morning |
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| 14:49.02 | Utah_Dave | morning |
| 15:07.26 | thebigdog | morning |
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| 15:51.39 | mindjuju | morn to all |
| 15:53.35 | Utah_Dave | morning, mindjuju |
| 15:54.36 | mgeary | what's up with jbot's random yow-ing lately? |
| 15:55.10 | mindjuju | he auto ~yows for me |
| 15:55.27 | mindjuju | it was a test i think for macnewbold a long time ago, i just forgot to take it off |
| 15:58.34 | mindjuju | So this month's geek lunch is supposed to be south of the point |
| 16:01.27 | mindjuju | i think macnewbold 's idea about doing it at Thanksgiving point is a good idea |
| 16:01.27 | mindjuju | not too south that a northern member can't go |
| 16:01.42 | mindjuju | any opposing viewpoints? |
| 16:01.42 | timinator | does northern member == the timinator ?? |
| 16:01.42 | Utah_Dave | Ooh, Thanksgiving point would rock! |
| 16:01.42 | mgeary | well, how many people will actually come if it's at T.P.? |
| 16:01.43 | Utah_Dave | I'd definitely be there |
| 16:01.43 | mindjuju | northern would be anybody north of the point |
| 16:01.43 | Utah_Dave | what's the date for it? |
| 16:01.58 | mindjuju | we we looked at having it in Orem, we lost all the SLC people |
| 16:01.58 | mindjuju | who make up the bulk of the geek lunch attendees |
| 16:01.59 | mindjuju | our most successful was about 15 -- bountiful, ut |
| 16:02.41 | mindjuju | the least attended was 4 |
| 16:02.41 | mindjuju | date is next Friday |
| 16:02.41 | mindjuju | on average though, it's about 10 |
| 16:02.42 | mindjuju | supposedly T.P. has free wifi |
| 16:02.42 | mindjuju | so that would be WAY COOL |
| 16:04.59 | mindjuju | they'd prolly have fungus friendly stuff there, methinks |
| 16:04.59 | Utah_Dave | I can confirm that Thanksgiving Point has free wifi. And it's decently fast, too |
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| 16:05.00 | mindjuju | last time i went it seems like there were several little eateries, so we could possibly go and get something then sit outside? |
| 16:05.00 | mindjuju | I try to sit in the sun, at least 1 hour a year, and haven't done so yet, so this could be my annual sun day |
| 16:05.57 | Utah_Dave | yeah, they have a really good deli right next to the ice cream shop |
| 16:06.16 | Utah_Dave | They have lots of good food, and I think some fungus friendly food as well |
| 16:06.25 | fungus | Yay. |
| 16:06.27 | Utah_Dave | and yes, they do have some outdoor seating as well |
| 16:06.30 | fungus | I'd be up for that. |
| 16:06.47 | Utah_Dave | It's a really nice comfortable place to sit and eat and hack |
| 16:06.58 | mindjuju | see, that's what i was thinking |
| 16:07.03 | Utah_Dave | sometimes when I'm working from home I go down there to work |
| 16:07.16 | mindjuju | i should do that |
| 16:07.39 | Utah_Dave | I get more done because I don't have all the distractions from home |
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| 16:09.25 | mindjuju | herlo are you going to be in town next friday? |
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| 16:14.39 | herlo | mindjuju: nope |
| 16:14.42 | herlo | but today I am |
| 16:14.52 | herlo | so I propose a geek lunch today :) |
| 16:23.27 | Utah_Dave | where? |
| 16:26.55 | herlo | Utah_Dave: In Utah |
| 16:27.08 | mgeary | how cliché |
| 16:27.24 | mgeary | i mean, *everyone* in Utah eats. it's soo boring |
| 16:28.07 | Utah_Dave | any particular location in Utah, herlo? |
| 16:28.59 | mindjuju | goodwood in draper ? |
| 16:29.19 | thebigdog | risky |
| 16:29.38 | herlo | Utah_Dave: how about Zupas in Draper |
| 16:29.40 | mindjuju | risky? |
| 16:29.57 | thebigdog | nothing |
| 16:30.02 | herlo | although, Pei Wei in Bountiful sounds even better |
| 16:30.10 | thebigdog | im going to smack beandog |
| 16:30.11 | Utah_Dave | oh, wait. I just realized I can't go today. Dang it |
| 16:30.23 | herlo | ~lart Utah_Dave |
| 16:30.23 | jbot | brandishes Excalibur! "With this sword, I vanquish thee, Utah_Dave!" and lops off Utah_Dave's head |
| 16:30.25 | Utah_Dave | I can go next Friday, though |
| 16:30.34 | Utah_Dave | ouchy |
| 16:30.35 | herlo | ~doublelart Utah_Dave |
| 16:30.44 | mindjuju | doubly larted? |
| 16:30.47 | Utah_Dave | ~tunafart herlo |
| 16:30.49 | jbot | ACTION eats a week-old tuna sandwich with relish and walks over to herlo, leg raised, to let 'em rip. |
| 16:30.49 | herlo | ~hugh Utah_Dave |
| 16:30.51 | jbot | ACTION watches Hugh, the freakishly huge killer whale, body slam Utah_Dave |
| 16:31.04 | herlo | ~whalepoo Utah_Dave |
| 16:31.11 | Utah_Dave | ~fart herlo |
| 16:31.13 | jbot | ACTION farts in herlo's general direction |
| 16:31.13 | herlo | ~whalepoop Utah_Dave |
| 16:31.15 | jbot | ACTION catapults a truckload of whale poop from a freakishly large killer whale named Hugh at Utah_Dave |
| 16:31.15 | mindjuju | whalepoo , that's new |
| 16:31.31 | herlo | mindjuju: I missed a char |
| 16:31.33 | Utah_Dave | ~thesuck herlo |
| 16:31.34 | jbot | ACTION (herlo is teh suck!) |
| 16:31.49 | herlo | ~rootkit Utah_Dave |
| 16:32.15 | Utah_Dave | ~mouse herlo |
| 16:32.34 | herlo | ~herlo Utah_Dave |
| 16:32.36 | jbot | ACTION pokes Utah_Dave with a sharp needle. |
| 16:32.39 | mindjuju | brb |
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| 16:56.02 | wps | I get so insulted by these penis enlargement emails. Don't they understand that questioning my manhood is the number one thing that they could do to LOOSE my business? If they want to attract me as a customer then they'll need to conjure up a different approach then suggesting that I'm lacking |
| 17:04.27 | wps | s/LOOSE/LOSE/ |
| 17:07.06 | thebigdog | oh man openlayers rock |
| 17:07.30 | mgeary | ~wiki openlayers |
| 17:07.42 | thebigdog | http://openlayers.rog |
| 17:07.44 | thebigdog | http://openlayers.org |
| 17:08.27 | thebigdog | i might do a presentation on it |
| 17:08.39 | thebigdog | cause it hooks into google, yahoo and some others too |
| 17:08.46 | thebigdog | and your own if you have images |
| 17:08.56 | mgeary | cool |
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| 17:13.15 | thebigdog | ~pimpslap beandog |
| 17:13.26 | jbot | thebigdog pimpslaps beandog. ouch! |
| 17:13.28 | beandog | ~eek |
| 17:13.30 | jbot | i guess eek is eek arf arf eek! |
| 17:13.38 | beandog | wassup thebigdog |
| 17:13.41 | fungus | wps you forget that people who actually have small penises, and have low self-esteem (their target) will jump on it. |
| 17:13.50 | thebigdog | beandog, nada...waiting for my email :) |
| 17:14.32 | wps | I guess it just amazes me that there is such a market for it |
| 17:14.39 | mgeary | seriously |
| 17:14.50 | beandog | oh yah. |
| 17:14.52 | fungus | In this society there is a market for *everything* |
| 17:14.53 | beandog | ~pimpslap beandog |
| 17:14.55 | jbot | beandog pimpslaps beandog. ouch! |
| 17:16.05 | fungus | spammers use atomic bombs to find their targets, not sniper rifles. |
| 17:16.49 | fungus | The sad part is, in their world atomic bombs are cheaper than sniper rifles. |
| 17:17.13 | beandog | so has anyone been to ikea yet |
| 17:17.49 | wps | going tonight |
| 17:18.06 | beandog | me too, I gotta find a TV stand. |
| 17:18.46 | mgeary | ~buy beandog allen wrenches and screwdriver |
| 17:18.49 | jbot | ACTION goes to S-Mart and gets a dozen allen wrenches and screwdrivers for beandog |
| 17:18.57 | mgeary | might need those ;) |
| 17:19.01 | beandog | good ol S-Mart |
| 17:21.09 | dataw0lf | best store ever |
| 17:25.53 | mgeary | k, here's a question for y'all |
| 17:26.10 | mgeary | i've got a machine with (sensibly) root ssh access turned off |
| 17:26.19 | mgeary | however, the user i'm connecting as has sudo privs |
| 17:26.37 | mgeary | i want to rsync a bunch of stuff as root, so i can make sure the perms are preserved |
| 17:26.51 | beandog | just do rsync -a |
| 17:26.52 | mgeary | any suggestions? |
| 17:27.07 | mgeary | beandog: but that requires root privs |
| 17:27.13 | mgeary | (to preserve the users) |
| 17:27.24 | beandog | meh. |
| 17:27.32 | mgeary | and while my *user* has root privs, i can't *connect* as root over ssh/rsync |
| 17:27.38 | herlo | beandog: you should consider -z as well in rsync |
| 17:27.56 | beandog | hmm, cool. |
| 17:28.00 | mgeary | i guess i could log in to the remote machine, and do a sudo rsync in reverse |
| 17:28.06 | beandog | yah |
| 17:28.46 | mgeary | but if my sending machine was behind a router that'd be a lot trickier. |
| 17:29.05 | wps | beat that timinator |
| 17:29.07 | mgeary | it'd be nice to have a solution for pushing data as root, after authenticating as a sudo user |
| 17:29.16 | beandog | hows that? If you can ssh in, you can ssh back out |
| 17:29.26 | beandog | er, sftp back out |
| 17:29.30 | beandog | with rsync. |
| 17:29.39 | mgeary | over a tunnel, you mean? |
| 17:29.51 | beandog | well rsync uses sftp by default. |
| 17:29.55 | mgeary | right |
| 17:29.57 | timinator | why ya gotta be that way wps? |
| 17:30.10 | wps | it's soul man |
| 17:30.16 | mgeary | beandog: which uses ssh. but you don't generally want to have root ssh access enabled |
| 17:30.25 | mgeary | which means you often can't rsync stuff as root |
| 17:30.31 | mgeary | unless you pull, rather than push |
| 17:30.37 | beandog | mgeary: right, but I thought you were going to ssh into the box and sudo, and then rsync out |
| 17:30.44 | wps | ick… I can't stand Macy Gray |
| 17:30.44 | mgeary | in other words, pull |
| 17:30.50 | timinator | LOL |
| 17:31.01 | timinator | she's got a great voice |
| 17:31.03 | mgeary | beandog: yeah, i can. but again, it'd be nice to be able to push |
| 17:31.04 | timinator | I love it |
| 17:31.20 | timinator | I've got a pretty diverse mix going today |
| 17:31.21 | beandog | I think that is pushing |
| 17:31.45 | beandog | anyway, I dunno |
| 17:31.48 | beandog | Im sure theres a way to do it. |
| 17:31.48 | mgeary | btw herlo, my experiments with -z suggest that you often don't really save that much time or bandwidth |
| 17:32.11 | fungus | Use -z on internet links, but not on LAN links |
| 17:32.14 | herlo | mgeary: your experiments or proven ones that have been documented somewhere... |
| 17:32.18 | timinator | was listening to blues this morning, Kid Rock, Lynard Skynard, Johnny Cash, etc. |
| 17:32.35 | timinator | Marc Broussard |
| 17:32.39 | timinator | Jim Croche |
| 17:32.46 | timinator | Guns N Roses |
| 17:32.50 | timinator | Gorillaz |
| 17:32.55 | timinator | Jack Johnson |
| 17:33.03 | beandog | Chris Spheeris |
| 17:33.07 | mgeary | herlo: i had to transfer hundreds of files in folders. I tried it 2 ways: 1) tar/gzziping them and transferring the resulting .tgz file, and using rsync -z. The tar/gz method won *hands down* |
| 17:33.08 | timinator | etc, etc, etc..... |
| 17:33.28 | mgeary | which is unfortunate, because rsync -z is much simpler |
| 17:33.29 | fungus | mgeary: that isn't comparing -z or without -z |
| 17:33.36 | herlo | mgeary: have you done the tar gzipping over a pipe via ssh without using files? |
| 17:33.41 | fungus | that is comparing tar vs rsync |
| 17:33.54 | mgeary | well, yeah. granted |
| 17:33.57 | herlo | mgeary: sort of |
| 17:34.26 | fungus | tar is always better than rsync, if the destination has no existing files. |
| 17:34.42 | herlo | tar -cjf - directory/ | ssh my.other.computer tar -xf - -C /destination/ |
| 17:35.14 | herlo | compress on one side, uncompress on the other, using pipes :) |
| 17:35.23 | timinator | nice |
| 17:35.23 | fungus | if the destination has existing files, and an update is needed, rsync wins |
| 17:35.40 | herlo | and with the newer versions of tar, you don't even have to uncompress with the -j option... |
| 17:36.25 | herlo | fungus: I totally agree |
| 17:36.26 | mgeary | herlo: that's nice |
| 17:36.30 | herlo | mgeary: thanx |
| 17:36.45 | herlo | I've had that in my toolbox for quite awhile. I usually have to look it up though... |
| 17:36.50 | fungus | In general I only use tar pipes when rsync isn't installed. rsync is so much easier to remember and get right. |
| 17:37.07 | beandog | ~pipe fungus |
| 17:37.24 | jsmith | herlo: Depends on the data you're transmitting, but tar often takes longer than just sending the data |
| 17:37.40 | jsmith | herlo: if you're compressing it before sending, that is |
| 17:37.56 | herlo | jsmith: with compression, yes. You could also just use -z which is faster, or no compression at all |
| 17:38.13 | jsmith | herlo: Also, there's no way to emulate the --delete option of rsync when using tar |
| 17:38.14 | fungus | LAN links usually suffer from compression, but slower WAN links can benefit from it |
| 17:38.27 | herlo | jsmith: true that |
| 17:38.43 | jsmith | Often times, the data is already compressed |
| 17:38.50 | herlo | jsmith: you could just delete the destination directories altogether first, but that'd take much longer |
| 17:39.18 | jsmith | MIght was well call somebody on the other side and read them the hexdump of the files... |
| 17:39.29 | wps | ha ha |
| 17:39.43 | jsmith | s/MIght was/Might as/ |
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| 17:39.57 | jsmith | mgeary: That too! |
| 17:40.11 | jsmith | mgeary: Although I find I use the --dry-run option more when using patch than rsync |
| 17:40.22 | mgeary | i've never really used patch |
| 17:42.51 | beandog | my programs never have bugs, so I never need to patch |
| 17:43.20 | timinator | wps: how's this for diverse |
| 17:43.31 | wps | very |
| 17:43.32 | wps | nice |
| 17:43.36 | timinator | :) |
| 17:43.36 | beandog | ~seen PoeticIntensity |
| 17:44.07 | jbot | poeticintensity <n=jason@70.96.176.8> was last seen on IRC in channel #uphpu, 2d 21h 3m 36s ago, saying: 'I wished I was dead.'. |
| 17:44.08 | beandog | meh. |
| 17:44.08 | timinator | anyone heard of Blue October? |
| 17:44.10 | timinator | (not the techno band) |
| 17:44.26 | timinator | uh oh... that doesn't sound good |
| 17:47.00 | timinator | the timinator is married |
| 17:47.09 | timinator | and has three children |
| 17:47.35 | timinator | george michael?!?!? |
| 17:48.23 | timinator | hell no |
| 17:49.02 | thebigdog | roflmao |
| 17:49.28 | jsmith | timinator: yes, I've heard of Blue October |
| 17:54.40 | timinator | jsmith: you like? |
| 17:55.21 | jsmith | timinator: The few songs I've heard on the radio, yes. |
| 17:55.39 | timinator | they're my new favorite band |
| 17:55.54 | timinator | saw them in concert about 2 months ago |
| 17:55.56 | jsmith | Cool... |
| 17:57.30 | thebigdog | you have to wear your rainbow pin though |
| 17:57.35 | thebigdog | :0 |
| 17:59.53 | timinator | thebigdog: I do, however, like the Chixdiggit version of Faith by George Michael |
| 18:00.14 | thebigdog | lol..that is a good song |
| 18:01.14 | timinator | fo sho |
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| 19:16.52 | timinator | yeah baby |
| 19:17.32 | Ritter | nice channel spam |
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| 19:29.19 | tierra | gibba: found the module I needed: http://www.cartmods.com/product.php?productid=113&cat=1&page=1 |
| 19:29.26 | tierra | looks like it'll do the job |
| 19:29.51 | gibba | yeah dude theres tons of good ones on cartmods |
| 19:31.01 | tierra | unfortunately it's the most expensive mod on the site... heh |
| 20:57.10 | wps | has anyone used Google Groups? |
| 20:57.13 | wps | …recently? |
| 20:57.30 | wps | last time I looked at it, it seemed like it was just usenet style forums |
| 20:57.37 | wps | it is now very feature-rich |
| 20:57.52 | wps | I'd almost consider moving all of the mailing lists that I manage over |
| 20:58.21 | wps | the integration between email and web perfect |
| 20:58.44 | wps | for those that like forums they can use the web and those that like email can use email… and it's all tied together |
| 20:58.59 | wps | …archived, searchable and everything |
| 21:00.27 | mindjuju | google is so cool |
| 21:00.32 | mindjuju | i wish they'd take over the world |
| 21:00.40 | wps | they are |
| 21:00.48 | wps | did you hear that they found a cure for AIDS? |
| 21:00.55 | wps | it was on CNN last night |
| 21:00.57 | mindjuju | didn't |
| 21:01.08 | mindjuju | that's awesome! |
| 21:01.11 | wps | :) |
| 21:01.20 | mgeary | alright wps, let go of mindjuju's leg |
| 21:01.21 | mindjuju | oh, i get it now |
| 21:02.06 | mgeary | sold! |
| 21:02.13 | mgeary | but only for you, and only today |
| 21:04.36 | wps | :) |
| 21:04.40 | wps | what a deal |
| 21:04.52 | wps | dang… I would have given you $72.50 |
| 21:05.27 | wps | hmm… Brooklyn… |
| 21:05.27 | mgeary | "just think of all the money you'll make in collecting tolls" |
| 21:05.55 | wps | and there're aren't people like thebigdog handing out "special" pins |
| 21:06.17 | thebigdog | **cough** **cough** you mean timinator |
| 21:06.36 | wps | San Fran is a scary place |
| 21:07.01 | thebigdog | its not too bad |
| 21:08.09 | mgeary | i'd take SF over LA any day of the week |
| 21:08.30 | thebigdog | im sure you would cuz :) |
| 21:08.36 | wps | well, yes, I would too… but mid and southern cali doesn't interest me at all though |
| 21:08.50 | mgeary | yeah |
| 21:09.30 | wps | I'm so tired |
| 21:09.44 | wps | I can't run on only six hours |
| 21:10.41 | thebigdog | ~wake wps |
| 21:10.57 | jbot | ACTION throws a barrel-full of ice water on wps and shouts "GOOD MORNING!!!!" |
| 21:10.58 | wps | no |
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| 21:12.08 | thebigdog | ~lart jbot |
| 21:12.08 | jbot | strangles thebigdog with a doohicky mouse cord |
| 21:12.40 | wps | my uncle started a business called Digital Doohikies |
| 21:13.10 | thebigdog | nice |
| 21:13.22 | thebigdog | i worked for a company called digital globies |
| 21:13.22 | wps | they're no longer in business |
| 21:13.26 | jsmith | wps: Was that the one in Idaho Falls? |
| 21:13.29 | wps | sure was |
| 21:13.37 | wps | globies? |
| 21:13.42 | wps | ~globies |
| 21:13.57 | jsmith | wps: Man, my dad used to buy a lot of parts from them |
| 21:13.57 | wps | yeah? |
| 21:13.57 | wps | that's cool |
| 21:13.57 | thebigdog | globies = boobies |
| 21:13.57 | wps | are you from ID, jsmith |
| 21:14.13 | jsmith | wps: No, I grew up in Wyoming |
| 21:14.21 | jsmith | wps: But Idaho Falls has the closest computer stores |
| 21:14.26 | thebigdog | jsmith, what part? |
| 21:14.29 | wps | Ah. Both sides of my family are. I was born there. |
| 21:15.10 | wps | what a small world |
| 21:15.17 | wps | that's funny that you're dad used to shop there |
| 21:15.22 | wps | s/you're/your/ |
| 21:16.45 | thebigdog | anyone got any good hand icons |
| 21:16.56 | jsmith | thebigdog: I grew up in Star Valley |
| 21:17.01 | thebigdog | oh cool |
| 21:18.16 | jsmith | wps: Yeah... he ran a computer store, and would buy hard drives, etc. from your uncle |
| 21:19.17 | thebigdog | star valley is beautiful |
| 21:19.24 | thebigdog | i just vacationed in wy |
| 21:19.37 | thebigdog | i was up looking at houses in wind rivers area |
| 21:21.13 | jsmith | thebigdog: YOU MAKE ME SICK |
| 21:21.19 | jsmith | s/SICK/JEALOUS/ |
| 21:21.23 | thebigdog | lol |
| 21:21.30 | thebigdog | still too much for me though |
| 21:21.33 | jsmith | I love hiking in the Wind Rivers... |
| 21:21.49 | thebigdog | oh we did some hiking that was so awesome |
| 21:21.51 | wps | I'm going on a week long backpacking trip through Wind Rivers in August |
| 21:21.53 | thebigdog | first time for me |
| 21:22.24 | wps | got to one-up last year's 50-miler through the grand canyon |
| 21:22.29 | thebigdog | i really thought about buying a house out |
| 21:23.12 | thebigdog | we went to a pow wow on the res too |
| 21:23.16 | thebigdog | was great |
| 21:23.18 | jsmith | wps: We did a 75-miler in the Wind Rivers |
| 21:23.23 | wps | aweseome |
| 21:23.29 | thebigdog | oh that would be sweet |
| 21:23.34 | jsmith | Got chased by a bear, rained out for 48 hours straight... |
| 21:23.38 | thebigdog | we hiked along the po po |
| 21:23.41 | jsmith | ... got lost ... |
| 21:23.49 | jsmith | But man, was it awesome! |
| 21:24.21 | thebigdog | we also hit sweet water too |
| 21:24.24 | thebigdog | which was nice |
| 21:24.35 | jsmith | Yeah... |
| 21:24.45 | thebigdog | 2 years ago i floated some rivers in saratoga |
| 21:24.49 | thebigdog | that is nice country too |
| 21:25.00 | thebigdog | hiked all around there and horse back riding |
| 21:25.17 | jsmith | My sister-in-law is from Saratoga |
| 21:25.29 | jsmith | thebigdog: Sounds like you've been to all the pretty parts in Wyoming... |
| 21:25.40 | jsmith | thebigdog: (and hopefully avoided the ugly spots) |
| 21:25.45 | thebigdog | yeah...except for the east side |
| 21:26.08 | thebigdog | my wife's family is from rawlins we do a lot with her family |
| 21:26.10 | jsmith | Ah, there's nothing there... it's just an extension of Nebraska |
| 21:26.19 | jsmith | Ah, rawlins.... |
| 21:26.31 | thebigdog | i call it the butthole of north america |
| 21:26.42 | jsmith | When I moved out to Virginia, we left SLC about 5:30 in the evening... figured we go as far as Rock Springs and spend the night. |
| 21:26.50 | jsmith | Got to Rock Springs, and all the hotels were full. |
| 21:26.54 | jsmith | So we drove on to Rawlins |
| 21:27.09 | jsmith | All the hotel rooms in Rawlins were booked up -- people were commuting from Rawlins to Rock Springs! |
| 21:27.16 | jsmith | Had to go all the way to Laramie to get a hotel room. |
| 21:27.18 | thebigdog | i use to commute to co so i would drive through rawlins all the time |
| 21:27.24 | thebigdog | eyah |
| 21:27.44 | jsmith | Apparently Halliburton has the whole Rock Springs area busy as a beehive |
| 21:27.54 | thebigdog | yeah it does now |
| 21:28.02 | thebigdog | the oil fields are booming |
| 21:28.11 | thebigdog | i have a lot of family working out there |
| 21:28.30 | jsmith | I'll bet... not much else to do in Rawlins, except for the prison |
| 21:28.42 | thebigdog | aint that the truth |
| 21:28.54 | thebigdog | i hate that place...it is growing though |
| 21:29.05 | thebigdog | they are building tons of new houses if you can believe that |
| 21:29.39 | jsmith | Unlike Rock Springs, which is mostly just single-wides |
| 21:29.52 | thebigdog | yeah |
| 21:29.57 | thebigdog | i saw a killer site though |
| 21:30.10 | thebigdog | 2 double wides combine to a quad |
| 21:30.45 | jsmith | My wife and I were gonna take three double-wides and put them in a U shape. |
| 21:30.50 | jsmith | Turn them into a compound |
| 21:30.59 | jsmith | Have a nice little terrace in the middle |
| 21:31.00 | thebigdog | sweet |
| 21:31.07 | thebigdog | you could so do that |
| 21:31.15 | jsmith | Couldn't convince her we needed three kitchens though |
| 21:31.24 | thebigdog | lol |
| 21:31.29 | thebigdog | snacking when in each one |
| 21:31.39 | thebigdog | you dont have to walk around the u for food |
| 21:33.33 | thebigdog | man my maps are looking killer |
| 21:33.57 | Lone_Wanderer | I want a house that's built kind of like that. Only, you know... not trailers. |
| 21:34.17 | thebigdog | lol |
| 21:34.17 | Lone_Wanderer | billion* |
| 21:35.40 | Lone_Wanderer | And instead of three sides it'll have five. The front drive will pull up to the longest side, which will also be the tallest (four or five stories tall). Two little wings will stick out backwards at an angle from the front. |
| 21:36.22 | Lone_Wanderer | Then the back three wings will only be two stories, the bottom of which will be more breezeway-like. |
| 21:36.54 | Lone_Wanderer | The courtyard in the middle will have stables and my... whatever you call it where you keep the hounds. |
| 21:37.11 | Lone_Wanderer | So I can say to my butler, "Release the hounds!" and we'll actually have hounds to release. |
| 21:37.44 | Lone_Wanderer | Bees, too. So if the hounds don't work we can sic the bees on them. |
| 21:38.16 | Lone_Wanderer | And then, of course, we'll have dogs with bees in their mouth so when they bark they shoot bees at them. |
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| 21:38.31 | jsmith | thebigdog: Maps? You have samples you can show? |
| 21:45.33 | timinator | thebigdog's got the coolest maps around.... cooler than Google Maps.... except w/o the Street Level |
| 21:45.40 | Lone_Wanderer | Wow. It's weird to see a picture without any lines or labels on it. |
| 21:46.09 | thebigdog | yeah that one is a simple one..the current one im working on has it all |
| 21:46.12 | thebigdog | roads too |
| 21:46.16 | thebigdog | and names |
| 21:46.16 | Lone_Wanderer | cool |
| 21:46.50 | thebigdog | we had a home grown mapping view that is just getting to yucky to manage |
| 21:46.55 | thebigdog | so i switched to openlayers |
| 21:47.56 | thebigdog | and now i can run all different things in it |
| 21:47.56 | Lone_Wanderer | ahh there we go |
| 21:47.56 | thebigdog | im thinking of adding a base image of me |
| 21:47.56 | Lone_Wanderer | it's weird that I can't see cities and things yet. maybe I'm too high up. |
| 21:47.56 | thebigdog | yeah drill down and you will |
| 21:47.56 | thebigdog | like slc |
| 21:48.11 | Lone_Wanderer | woah, it changed |
| 21:48.43 | thebigdog | ajax for all the calls |
| 21:49.11 | thebigdog | when im done i would like to present on it |
| 21:49.23 | thebigdog | using it with google, yahoo and your own stuff |
| 21:49.29 | Lone_Wanderer | nice |
| 21:50.32 | Lone_Wanderer | Hmm. You don't seem to have anything for it. |
| 21:50.50 | thebigdog | where is it at? |
| 21:51.01 | Lone_Wanderer | middle of the Saudi Arabian peninsula |
| 21:51.06 | thebigdog | oh no |
| 21:51.14 | thebigdog | we just are working on the states now |
| 21:51.17 | Lone_Wanderer | It's okay. It's empty anyway. |
| 21:51.31 | Lone_Wanderer | ;) |
| 21:51.43 | thebigdog | the states alone will be around 20TB of images alone |
| 21:51.51 | thebigdog | we only have around 10TB |
| 21:52.01 | wps | anyone want free tickets to Pirates 3? |
| 21:52.05 | Lone_Wanderer | sure |
| 21:52.06 | thebigdog | on that + on the right click that and switch to tiled tiffs |
| 21:52.10 | Lone_Wanderer | when are they for? |
| 21:52.22 | wps | tomorrow morning, 8am, at the Scera theater in Orem |
| 21:52.32 | Lone_Wanderer | Oh, I could actually go to that. |
| 21:53.03 | wps | you can pick them up from me in North Orem for the next hour |
| 21:53.13 | Lone_Wanderer | can't do that though |
| 21:54.55 | wps | could you pick them up from me at my place in Lehi? |
| 21:55.05 | wps | I guess I could leave them under a bush for you outside of my office |
| 21:55.08 | Utah_Dave | wps: I live in Lehi! |
| 21:55.11 | Lone_Wanderer | No, I'm at work until 6 :( |
| 21:55.16 | Lone_Wanderer | Give them to UTD. |
| 21:56.48 | wps | you want them UTD? |
| 21:57.29 | Utah_Dave | I would love them, but I have an appt at 9:00 :( |
| 21:58.10 | Lone_Wanderer | thebigdog: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rub'_al_Khali |
| 21:58.24 | Lone_Wanderer | For more about the Empty Quarter. For some reason I'm fascinated by that place. |
| 21:58.37 | thebigdog | lol |
| 22:01.13 | mgeary | wps: how many tickets? |
| 22:01.21 | thebigdog | too bad they did not find huge worms |
| 22:01.32 | Lone_Wanderer | Just the fact that the Bedouin, who live in the desert, would name a place "empty"... |
| 22:01.35 | wps | two |
| 22:01.40 | wps | and there will be donuts and juice |
| 22:01.44 | thebigdog | Lone_Wanderer, true |
| 22:01.58 | mgeary | wps: your company is booking the viewing, i presume? |
| 22:02.28 | wps | not my company… but it's related… our insurance somebody did |
| 22:02.32 | mgeary | aah |
| 22:03.07 | mgeary | we've got time and proximity, but i've seen it with my son. And i think the big screen version might be a bit scary for my 4-year old little girl... |
| 22:03.25 | mgeary | i hate to see the tickets go to waste, but i guess i should pass. it's a fun show, though |
| 22:07.30 | dataw0lf | I heard Pirates 3 was worse than the 2nd one |
| 22:09.13 | timinator | I've heard the same |
| 22:09.16 | wps | it was awful |
| 22:09.31 | timinator | have you seen Ask a Ninja's take on it |
| 22:09.48 | wps | as was Shrek 3 and Spider-Man 3 |
| 22:09.59 | wps | Hollywood has gone down the toilet |
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| 22:11.24 | wps | nothing original coming out of there for a long time |
| 22:14.04 | mindjuju | thebigdog , you around? |
| 22:16.23 | Ritter | he probably off work already at home playing WoW |
| 22:20.06 | thebigdog | mindjuju, of course |
| 22:20.15 | thebigdog | Ritter i only wish |
| 22:20.44 | thebigdog | i'm doing some image work |
| 22:20.45 | Ritter | thebigdog: I am making $$ on Daggerspine up to 65g yay! |
| 22:21.05 | thebigdog | ok, you need to give me some |
| 22:21.10 | Ritter | ha! |
| 22:23.44 | mindjuju | hey, was just oging to ask you if nested tables are really as cool as I imagine them to be |
| 22:24.04 | thebigdog | y |
| 22:24.08 | thebigdog | they are fantastic |
| 22:24.11 | mindjuju | i need to find a way to squeeze an array into ms sql, and heard that oracle had them |
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| 22:32.09 | Utah_Dave | ~thesuck mssql |
| 22:32.22 | jbot | ACTION (mssql is teh suck!) |
| 22:54.33 | mindjuju | dagnabit! |
| 22:54.49 | mindjuju | had crazy day, didn't have time to finish planning geek lunch for next friday |
| 22:55.04 | mindjuju | though i think everybody was happy with T.P. weren't we? |
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| 22:55.59 | Utah_Dave | I was. I didn't see a lot of other comments, though |
| 22:56.17 | mindjuju | i saw fungus was |
| 22:56.24 | mindjuju | didn't see anything back from macnewbold |
| 22:56.32 | mindjuju | herlo is out of town (the jerk!) |
| 22:56.43 | mindjuju | i wonder about tierra and synic |
| 22:57.03 | mindjuju | seems like mgeary was cool with it |
| 22:57.37 | tierra | ? |
| 22:57.50 | mindjuju | geek lunch next friday at thanksgiving point |
| 22:57.56 | tierra | hmm |
| 22:57.57 | mindjuju | free wifi and several places to get food from |
| 22:58.11 | Utah_Dave | yummy eats |
| 22:59.18 | tierra | I think I can make that, though it's a bit of a drive from Bountiful |
| 22:59.38 | mindjuju | weather.com says sunny - 82 degrees and wind at 11mph |
| 23:00.08 | Utah_Dave | plus, it's a straight shot down I-15 |
| 23:00.14 | mindjuju | yeah, true that |
| 23:00.22 | tierra | yeah |
| 23:00.28 | mindjuju | if you can come, tierra, it would be cool, but i know the gas prices are killer right now |
| 23:01.03 | mindjuju | heck, i'm personally capping my speed at 40 mph just so i can squeeze the most miles from gas |
| 23:01.19 | mindjuju | (not on freeway of course, though i don't have to drive freeway in my car) |
| 23:01.31 | tierra | yeah, that's mostly the only reason I'm hesitant... |
| 23:03.33 | Utah_Dave | tierra: have I met you in person at one of the meetings before? |
| 23:03.44 | tierra | I'm pretty sure we have |
| 23:04.06 | tierra | I've been to probably 5 or 6 lunches/meetings |
| 23:04.23 | tierra | though I've missed a lot in the last few months |
| 23:04.30 | Utah_Dave | cool. It's been several months since I've been to a meeting |
| 23:04.58 | mindjuju | tierra, you drive a black pathfinder, right? |
| 23:05.32 | tierra | mindjuju: nope, silver Mirage |
| 23:05.48 | tierra | though my sister owns a black pathfinder iirc |
| 23:06.23 | mindjuju | ah, you drove it to the geek lunch where we ate thai down sout of the point |
| 23:06.27 | mindjuju | can't think of what the city was called |
| 23:06.40 | tierra | Lehi maybe |
| 23:06.46 | mindjuju | oh yeah, i think your right |
| 23:07.09 | tierra | but yeah, I went to that Thai lunch |
| 23:07.11 | fungus | OMGWTFBBQ!? |
| 23:07.28 | mindjuju | we could have veggie burgers for fungus |
| 23:07.31 | mindjuju | but! |
| 23:07.34 | fungus | yay |
| 23:07.39 | mindjuju | we need to dual purpose the bbq |
| 23:07.46 | mindjuju | so it is bbq / LAN PARTY |
| 23:07.55 | mindjuju | consoles and comps |
| 23:08.10 | mindjuju | where dataw0lf and I finally play halo 2 against each other |
| 23:08.32 | Utah_Dave | sounds like fun! |
| 23:08.32 | mindjuju | he gets rocket launcher, i'll go fists, i'll still wipe him out |
| 23:23.54 | tierra | hmm... looks like UJUG is doing some work on their mailing lists... |
| 23:24.02 | Lone_Wanderer | Java? |
| 23:24.09 | tierra | yeah |
| 23:24.12 | thebigdog | tierra, yes they are |
| 23:32.26 | timinator | have a good weekend everyone |
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