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| 14:13.02 | Utah_Dave | morning, everyone |
| 14:21.32 | herlo | Utah_Dave: hello! |
| 14:23.09 | herlo | Alright, this xkcd comic is awesome: http://xkcd.com/c258.html |
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| 14:40.56 | timinator | morning guys |
| 14:45.06 | _psychic_ | morning |
| 14:47.45 | Utah_Dave | morning |
| 14:47.45 | Utah_Dave | lol herlo |
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| 15:56.11 | PoeticIntensity | Lone_Wanderer, you like ET? |
| 15:56.25 | PoeticIntensity | I'm just gettin' back into that game.... I have ET LAN parties about once ever 4 months... |
| 15:56.26 | PoeticIntensity | good times... :) |
| 15:56.35 | PoeticIntensity | (Enemy Territory) |
| 15:56.39 | PoeticIntensity | I was readin' the logs. :) |
| 16:00.44 | mgeary | :/ mgeary has finally decided to take his dog to a shelter |
| 16:00.51 | PoeticIntensity | wha...!? |
| 16:00.58 | PoeticIntensity | ya don't like your dog? |
| 16:01.00 | mgeary | he's too much of a risk :( |
| 16:01.12 | PoeticIntensity | is ...... what's up with him (her) ? |
| 16:01.17 | mgeary | we like him, but he's not friendly to others |
| 16:01.27 | mgeary | we can't have a lawsuit |
| 16:01.46 | PoeticIntensity | poop. |
| 16:01.59 | PoeticIntensity | that's poopy. |
| 16:02.04 | mgeary | yeah |
| 16:03.28 | PoeticIntensity | my little brother got bit in the face by a rotweiler. |
| 16:03.34 | PoeticIntensity | he still has scars - 10 years later. |
| 16:03.38 | PoeticIntensity | not fun. |
| 16:04.15 | thebigdog | tierra, i installed rockbox on my video ipod and it rocks |
| 16:04.26 | tierra | thebigdog: nice |
| 16:04.43 | thebigdog | very easy to install |
| 16:04.51 | thebigdog | im thinking about installing it on another one too |
| 16:04.56 | thebigdog | ls |
| 16:05.02 | tierra | keep me updated on where they're at on the video ipods, cuz I may be curious to get one eventually |
| 16:05.26 | thebigdog | the themes look great |
| 16:06.00 | thebigdog | there are some things i was not too familiar with but i think as i read the manual ill get the hang of it |
| 16:06.01 | tierra | it would be nice to know if/when they can get support for the hardware decoders and other video codecs |
| 16:06.25 | thebigdog | im going to test it out with some ogg and some movies i have |
| 16:06.31 | tierra | you still have yours setup for dual boot action right? |
| 16:07.22 | thebigdog | well i think you have to remove the rockbox bootloader and it will then use the apple bootloader |
| 16:07.33 | thebigdog | i dont see an option to select when it boots |
| 16:07.53 | tierra | na, the rockbox boot loader has supported the original firmware at least on the mini ipods |
| 16:08.16 | tierra | I just need to hold down a couple buttons when it boots, and it'll load the original firmware |
| 16:08.38 | thebigdog | i need to check that out then |
| 16:09.17 | tierra | so if you are in the mood to watch some video, you probably still can |
| 16:09.53 | thebigdog | i think the rockbox has support for the videos now |
| 16:10.05 | tierra | without that mpeg plugin? |
| 16:10.26 | thebigdog | perhaps it needs the plugin...i need to check into that |
| 16:10.38 | thebigdog | if i can play my oggs...that is all i really care about |
| 16:10.39 | tierra | yeah, definately check that out |
| 16:10.45 | tierra | heh |
| 16:10.56 | tierra | ogg++ |
| 16:11.11 | thebigdog | yeah |
| 16:12.07 | tierra | ugh, that's probably my most common misspelling |
| 16:12.11 | tierra | *definitely |
| 16:14.31 | thebigdog | the games are nice too |
| 16:21.44 | Utah_Dave | thebigdog: how do you manage your songs on it? Do you just copy your files onto it? |
| 16:22.01 | thebigdog | i used itunes to copy them on there |
| 16:22.12 | thebigdog | ive just done mp3 so far |
| 16:22.42 | thebigdog | you can just copy them over there and the database initilization will find them |
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| 16:36.22 | herlo | Utah_Dave: why thank you |
| 16:36.38 | Utah_Dave | herlo: for? |
| 16:36.53 | herlo | Utah_Dave: lol from above |
| 16:37.13 | Utah_Dave | oh. well, it was funny! |
| 16:37.20 | Utah_Dave | how've you been? |
| 16:37.42 | herlo | Utah_Dave: good, you? |
| 16:37.50 | Utah_Dave | good |
| 16:37.52 | herlo | Utah_Dave: we need to hang out again sometime... |
| 16:38.19 | Utah_Dave | yeah, that would be cool. |
| 16:38.45 | Utah_Dave | have you worked on that project at all? It's been a long time |
| 16:53.55 | thebigdog | tierra, the one thing i found is that avi file format is not a standard plugin default |
| 16:54.07 | thebigdog | so im changing mine to mpg |
| 17:00.38 | Lone_Wanderer | mgeary: If you get a good trainer to work with him, they should be able to help with that. |
| 17:00.49 | Lone_Wanderer | I can recommend a few. My sister works with rescue dogs. |
| 17:01.04 | thebigdog | you always have thebigdog here |
| 17:01.11 | thebigdog | ~pet thebigdog |
| 17:01.23 | jbot | ACTION reaches over and pets thebigdog on the head, saying "There, there! It'll all be ok!" |
| 17:01.29 | Lone_Wanderer | PoeticIntensity: You should invite me to your next ET party. |
| 17:01.43 | Lone_Wanderer | I'll show y'all how it's done. |
| 17:02.35 | thebigdog | Utah_Dave, with rockbox and ogg i just use the dir structure that i store them on my hds |
| 17:03.01 | thebigdog | rockbox just goes out and searches for all the files and then stores the info in its db |
| 17:03.17 | thebigdog | tierra, i think i found a new love with rockbox |
| 17:03.34 | thebigdog | im still working on the video part...but that plugin comes with the base install |
| 17:03.36 | Utah_Dave | cool. I think I may try it out |
| 17:03.37 | Lone_Wanderer | That's the iPod thing right? |
| 17:03.42 | thebigdog | yeah |
| 17:04.00 | thebigdog | so easy to setup and configure |
| 17:04.17 | thebigdog | for me i configure via mounting the drive and editing the config files |
| 17:04.34 | thebigdog | then i rsync it with svn |
| 17:04.52 | thebigdog | ogg sounds so nice now |
| 17:05.14 | thebigdog | the themes are killer too and you can customize them too your liking |
| 17:06.53 | Lone_Wanderer | cool |
| 17:06.53 | herlo | Utah_Dave: I haven't worked on the project in a while. I'd like to but The Utah Open Source Conference stuff has really had my focus |
| 17:06.53 | thebigdog | i have my theme similar to my desktop theme |
| 17:06.53 | herlo | btw, for all you phpers, you are very poorly represented at the conference |
| 17:06.54 | thebigdog | which conference? |
| 17:06.54 | herlo | thebigdog: Utah Open Source Conference |
| 17:06.57 | thebigdog | when was that? |
| 17:06.57 | herlo | its the one I've been promoting for over a year now |
| 17:06.57 | thebigdog | oh man |
| 17:07.02 | Utah_Dave | yeah, sounds like that has been keeping you busy |
| 17:07.07 | thebigdog | i missed that |
| 17:07.09 | herlo | thebigdog: http://www.utosc.org/participate |
| 17:07.26 | herlo | thebigdog: you can still submit a paper. Only mindjuju has submitted anything. |
| 17:07.37 | herlo | Oh, and you all would have known about it if you'd come to this month's meeting |
| 17:07.37 | thebigdog | for php right? |
| 17:07.53 | herlo | thebigdog: on any topic, including, but not limited to php |
| 17:08.07 | thebigdog | how many papers you have submitted? |
| 17:08.31 | herlo | thebigdog: about 25, we're looking for a few more to round out the two day conference. We can do it now, but I'd like a little more |
| 17:08.47 | thebigdog | what are some of the topics? |
| 17:09.58 | herlo | thebigdog: do you mean what topics have been submitted? |
| 17:10.02 | thebigdog | y] |
| 17:10.04 | herlo | or what can you submit on |
| 17:10.14 | thebigdog | what have been submitted so far? |
| 17:10.19 | thebigdog | topics that is |
| 17:11.01 | herlo | asterisk, bluetooth, building community, python (several), apache, meldware apps (buni.org) |
| 17:11.04 | herlo | theres a few |
| 17:11.59 | herlo | thebigdog: so I'll be waiting for your submission soon |
| 17:12.03 | thebigdog | lol |
| 17:12.15 | thebigdog | is jsmith doing the asterisk one? |
| 17:12.44 | thebigdog | here is my topic: how to kill Lone_Wanderer in WOW |
| 17:12.59 | Lone_Wanderer | Can't be done. |
| 17:13.12 | thebigdog | crap |
| 17:13.14 | Lone_Wanderer | ;) |
| 17:13.27 | Lone_Wanderer | Except to warlocks. Or rogues. Or sometimes warriors. |
| 17:13.44 | herlo | thebigdog: yes jsmith is doing asterisk |
| 17:13.45 | Lone_Wanderer | Or druids. Or shaman. |
| 17:13.56 | Lone_Wanderer | I can totally kill any paladin you want me to though! |
| 17:14.11 | thebigdog | nice |
| 17:14.27 | thebigdog | oh man..i wouldnt mind doing pgsql |
| 17:14.40 | thebigdog | or postgis...but that might not be beneficial to others |
| 17:15.09 | herlo | thebigdog: submit it, we'll let you know. |
| 17:15.12 | thebigdog | herlo, are you presenting |
| 17:15.34 | Utah_Dave | herlo: That's a great-looking site |
| 17:15.40 | herlo | thebigdog: probably. I'll be running the con, so I'll be doing something... |
| 17:15.42 | herlo | Utah_Dave: tx |
| 17:15.55 | thebigdog | yeah the site is nice |
| 17:16.01 | herlo | tx |
| 17:16.05 | thebigdog | when is the ddd on submits? |
| 17:16.11 | herlo | thebigdog: asap |
| 17:16.16 | thebigdog | lol |
| 17:16.20 | thebigdog | today |
| 17:16.22 | thebigdog | :) |
| 17:16.38 | herlo | thebigdog: you have time, just don't doddle |
| 17:17.17 | thebigdog | k ill think about some topics |
| 17:31.08 | tierra | thebigdog: I don't even think rockbox has a DB of the music, unless it does in a newer version... it just lets you browse the files directly |
| 17:31.17 | tierra | folders and all... |
| 17:36.24 | thebigdog | this version creates a db that you can store in ram or on disk |
| 17:37.10 | Lone_Wanderer | Great. I just lost a filling, and I don't have dental insurance. |
| 17:37.22 | thebigdog | Lone_Wanderer, go kick macnewbold |
| 17:37.25 | Lone_Wanderer | ~lart whoever put these fillings in |
| 17:37.25 | jbot | pushes the wall down onto whoever put these fillings in whilst whistling innocently |
| 17:37.39 | Lone_Wanderer | That's like the third filling I've lost, and I know it was from the same dentist. |
| 17:37.48 | Lone_Wanderer | Probably some jerk in Minnesota. |
| 17:37.51 | macnewbold | ~kick someone |
| 17:38.07 | jbot | ACTION kicks someone |
| 17:48.56 | timinator | I'm out guys... later |
| 17:52.19 | Lone_Wanderer | Does anyone know a good dentist in Salt Lake? |
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| 18:17.05 | tierra | thebigdog: oh yeah, that is right, I forgot you can still browse by artist/album |
| 18:20.57 | mgeary | Lone_Wanderer: i go to Rob Thorup |
| 18:20.57 | mgeary | www.thorupdental.com |
| 18:21.16 | Lone_Wanderer | mgeary: Is he pretty good, then? |
| 18:21.22 | mgeary | i think so |
| 18:21.25 | Lone_Wanderer | k |
| 18:36.11 | thebigdog | Lone_Wanderer, where do you live? |
| 18:36.22 | Lone_Wanderer | Taylorsville |
| 18:36.24 | thebigdog | oh |
| 18:36.35 | thebigdog | timinator is on the short work day plan |
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| 19:01.39 | mgeary | thebigdog: seriously |
| 19:01.50 | thebigdog | yeah...the wall |
| 19:02.19 | mgeary | that too. was agreeing with your comment on timinator's work hours |
| 19:02.24 | Lone_Wanderer | I miss my copy of The Wall :( |
| 19:02.31 | thebigdog | oh |
| 19:02.34 | mgeary | but yeah, 60% of The Wall is great. the other 40... eh |
| 19:10.50 | mgeary | hrm |
| 19:11.39 | mgeary | you folks helped me work something out once before, and i can't remember the syntax. I want to take the output of "egrep -ril 'whatever'" and use the resulting list of files as an input parameter to another CLI app |
| 19:12.23 | mgeary | so, if i've got a clip app that works like this: "mate filea.txt fileb.txt" |
| 19:12.26 | mgeary | s/clip/cli |
| 19:12.49 | mgeary | i want to feed it files whose contents match an egrep pattern |
| 19:12.51 | mgeary | make sense? |
| 19:30.09 | mgeary | ah, just pipe it through xargs |
| 19:31.44 | thebigdog | Lone_Wanderer, if you are nice i might need to get you a copy |
| 19:31.56 | Lone_Wanderer | copy of what? |
| 19:32.17 | thebigdog | ^^ |
| 19:32.19 | thebigdog | the wall |
| 19:32.35 | Lone_Wanderer | hh, righ |
| 19:32.36 | Lone_Wanderer | t |
| 19:32.37 | thebigdog | mgeary, that is correct | xargs |
| 19:32.47 | mgeary | seems like i'd done something else before |
| 19:32.48 | Lone_Wanderer | well I bought it once, so technically I've a right to have it, don't I? |
| 19:32.51 | mgeary | but that's nice and simple |
| 19:32.59 | mgeary | heh |
| 19:33.11 | mgeary | itunes caught your mood |
| 19:33.17 | thebigdog | yeah bro |
| 19:33.30 | Lone_Wanderer | btw, "Axe" is a guitar brand. |
| 19:33.41 | thebigdog | lol |
| 19:33.44 | Lone_Wanderer | "In the suitcase on the left, you'll find my favorite Axe" |
| 19:34.05 | Lone_Wanderer | I love snopes. |
| 19:34.42 | Lone_Wanderer | Snopes: Helping you prove blowhards and glurge forwarders wrong since several years ago. |
| 19:56.12 | Lone_Wanderer | Can someone remind me quick how to get the command-line arguments within a PHP script? |
| 19:56.29 | thebigdog | $argv |
| 19:56.29 | Lone_Wanderer | I just want to check if the -h flag is set and if it is print out a message, otherwise... thanks |
| 19:56.51 | thebigdog | $argc and $argv |
| 20:15.46 | Lone_Wanderer | Lovely, lovely. |
| 20:16.59 | thebigdog | oh so lovely |
| 20:17.13 | Lone_Wanderer | My command line script is working :) |
| 20:17.27 | Lone_Wanderer | It's not terribly complex, and it accepts only one flag (-h) but it works. |
| 20:17.46 | thebigdog | nice |
| 20:18.04 | thebigdog | i think i wrote an article once on php cli |
| 20:18.24 | Lone_Wanderer | In general I think it's a really bad idea. |
| 20:18.38 | Lone_Wanderer | But in this instance I needed to interface with a DB, and PHP is all set up to do that on this server already. |
| 20:19.07 | thebigdog | if done right it is not that bad |
| 20:19.15 | thebigdog | i would not use it for server admin stuff |
| 20:19.28 | Lone_Wanderer | I've actually written several php cli scripts. |
| 20:19.41 | thebigdog | i used it for a lot of background processes that deal with websites |
| 20:19.43 | Lone_Wanderer | There's a balance between "the right tool" and "use what you already know". |
| 20:20.13 | Lone_Wanderer | That's what I'm doing here. I already had a script that was running (from cron) and I needed a slight alteration of it, so I just copied it and added #!/whatever/php |
| 20:20.29 | thebigdog | nice |
| 20:20.46 | thebigdog | herlo: what no pic on gurulabs.com |
| 20:24.00 | herlo | thebigdog: I should put one up I guess |
| 20:24.22 | herlo | I have a pic most places... |
| 20:24.28 | thebigdog | i always wonder there is not |
| 20:24.34 | thebigdog | like instructors section |
| 20:24.47 | thebigdog | man i remember years back interviewing with dax for a position |
| 20:24.49 | herlo | thebigdog: dunno, probably because we don't market ourselves really... |
| 20:24.55 | thebigdog | i was so stupid |
| 20:25.05 | thebigdog | herlo, true |
| 20:25.15 | herlo | thebigdog: why were you stupid? |
| 20:25.31 | thebigdog | i thought i knew stuff and still needed a lot more experience |
| 20:25.50 | herlo | oh, so you aren't so stupid now? |
| 20:26.04 | thebigdog | i think im "not" that stupid |
| 20:26.16 | thebigdog | i still got the stupids though |
| 20:26.17 | thebigdog | :) |
| 20:26.35 | thebigdog | referring to linux knowledge |
| 20:27.32 | thebigdog | one thing i took away from the interview was the professionalism there was top notch |
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| 20:31.35 | herlo | thebigdog: where did you work? |
| 20:32.05 | thebigdog | what you mean? |
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| 20:32.17 | herlo | to learn that you were stupid? Also, did you interview at GL? |
| 20:32.34 | thebigdog | just conversing with dax on some things |
| 20:32.44 | thebigdog | i worked at enterasys networks at the time |
| 20:32.57 | thebigdog | and i interviewed at GL for an instructor position |
| 20:33.07 | herlo | thebigdog: when? |
| 20:33.11 | herlo | recently |
| 20:33.12 | herlo | ? |
| 20:33.14 | thebigdog | about 6-7 years back |
| 20:33.23 | thebigdog | like early or mid 2002 |
| 20:33.31 | thebigdog | or perhaps late 2001 |
| 20:33.42 | herlo | thebigdog: ah, I see. You should come apply again, I am sure you aren't nearly as inexperienced |
| 20:33.50 | thebigdog | lol |
| 20:34.09 | thebigdog | yeah |
| 20:34.10 | thebigdog | do you have part-time nights? |
| 20:35.10 | herlo | thebigdog: haha |
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| 20:35.39 | thebigdog | herlo: let me take that as no |
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| 20:39.24 | herlo | thebigdog: I'd say no, but you already did |
| 20:39.39 | herlo | :) |
| 20:39.42 | thebigdog | figures |
| 20:40.02 | thebigdog | do you have anything where i can sit and the computer and surf the web? |
| 20:40.03 | thebigdog | :) |
| 20:40.17 | thebigdog | ive got a phobia about standing in front of computer users |
| 20:40.52 | herlo | that phobia won't get you far in my company, sorry |
| 20:41.10 | thebigdog | haha |
| 20:41.18 | herlo | you can surf pr0n on your own time, but ifyou want to surf particular web pages, come on over... |
| 20:41.28 | thebigdog | lol |
| 20:41.42 | herlo | I can show you some goodies... |
| 20:41.46 | thebigdog | i think some day i would love too teach |
| 20:42.10 | herlo | its fun. The best job I've ever had and I fell into it by accident |
| 20:42.19 | thebigdog | cool |
| 20:42.39 | herlo | anyway, gotta go teach again. Geez, this job sucks! |
| 20:42.43 | herlo | :-P |
| 20:43.00 | thebigdog | sure man...internet...few words...more internet...goodies...internet |
| 20:43.13 | thebigdog | few words...call it a day |
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| 20:43.32 | Ritter | sup thebigdog |
| 20:43.40 | thebigdog | sup Ritter bro |
| 21:09.48 | wps | really? I thought that there not any showings until tomorrow at eight |
| 21:10.20 | thebigdog | mgeary, is cool though |
| 21:10.27 | mgeary | :D |
| 21:10.28 | beandog | starts thursday |
| 21:10.32 | mgeary | not for mgeary |
| 21:10.43 | wps | you sleeping with Larry Miller? |
| 21:10.45 | beandog | the movies gonna suck, anyway |
| 21:10.53 | thebigdog | haha |
| 21:10.59 | beandog | the first two stunk. |
| 21:11.02 | mgeary | remember that pirates thing i worked on? some of you dug it |
| 21:11.05 | beandog | well, the first one was alright. |
| 21:11.12 | mgeary | it came with a fringe benefit |
| 21:11.29 | beandog | Star Trek 2 is showing at the Tower Theater in about 2 weeks. |
| 21:11.31 | beandog | can't miss that. |
| 21:11.37 | wps | most III's are pretty bad |
| 21:11.47 | wps | once you drag it out that long… it's long since dead |
| 21:11.50 | wps | Shrek III was stupid |
| 21:12.09 | beandog | ack, dont tell me. |
| 21:12.20 | thebigdog | wps that is a kiddie show that you should be sleeping through |
| 21:12.31 | wps | well, not stupid… but just old… blah |
| 21:12.49 | mgeary | i'm mostly excited 'cause i get to bring my 6-year-old son. i hope he's milking it up at school right now |
| 21:13.03 | wps | thanks again for your sed help, thebigdog |
| 21:13.05 | wps | you saved me a lot of time |
| 21:13.10 | thebigdog | np |
| 21:13.15 | thebigdog | sed is killer |
| 21:13.22 | thebigdog | man i need ot find that link |
| 21:14.24 | wps | I have ~20 replacements to do in 25 files |
| 21:24.00 | thebigdog | i should set my boss's bash shell to use vim key bindings |
| 21:24.06 | thebigdog | then we will learn vim |
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