| 01:13.23 | burnin | anybody here deal with boolean compatability between mysql and pgsql? |
| 01:13.39 | burnin | mysql seems to use an int and pgsql is using a string it seems. |
| 01:13.53 | burnin | at least that is what is returned in php |
| 01:17.10 | jsmith | PostgreSQL has a "bool" type |
| 01:17.30 | jsmith | If PHP is giving you a string, then that's strange... |
| 01:17.44 | jsmith | Hold on, let me test something... |
| 01:18.51 | burnin | it may be that its a bool in pgsql but in transitioning through the various layers it becomes a string in php |
| 01:21.50 | burnin | I may have to just write something in my code to check for t/f versus 1/0 |
| 01:22.20 | burnin | you would think they would be returning the same thing, I'd be surprised if the SQL standards didn't say something about booleans |
| 01:31.09 | jsmith | Here, just do this: |
| 01:31.22 | jsmith | "SELECT trueorfalse::int FROM sometable" |
| 01:31.32 | jsmith | That'll give it to you as an int instead of a boolean |
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| 12:10.23 | mindjuju | ~curse IE 6 |
| 12:10.38 | jbot | May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your most sensitive regions, IE 6 ! |
| 12:10.59 | mindjuju | ~lart IE 6 |
| 12:10.59 | jbot | executes killall -KILL IE 6 |
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| 14:46.50 | jbot | All hail thebigdog! |
| 14:47.40 | jsmith | Look! I made him cry! |
| 14:51.52 | thebigdog | anyone here use a test case management system? |
| 14:52.48 | jsmith | Not I |
| 14:54.23 | thebigdog | ty jsmith |
| 14:54.29 | thebigdog | how is work going? |
| 14:54.48 | jsmith | work is fine... it's this confounded book that has my brain hurting |
| 14:55.13 | jsmith | (tried to finish up the second edition this last week, but I'm still plugging away at it) |
| 15:01.18 | Lone_Wanderer | Good morning. |
| 15:02.46 | jsmith | Morning Lone_Wanderer |
| 15:03.03 | Lone_Wanderer | Ugh. |
| 15:03.07 | Lone_Wanderer | This whole "losing weight" thing... |
| 15:03.11 | Lone_Wanderer | I might be going about it the wrong way. |
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| 15:20.34 | timinator | LW: have you heard of Usana? |
| 15:22.49 | mgeary | morning all |
| 15:23.32 | timinator | morning mgeary |
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| 15:27.48 | Lone_Wanderer | In javascript, how do I close the window? |
| 15:27.56 | mgeary | self.close() |
| 15:27.59 | Lone_Wanderer | timinator: I've heard of the Usana Amphitheatre, but that's it. |
| 15:28.00 | Lone_Wanderer | thanks |
| 15:28.43 | Lone_Wanderer | I'm getting "scripts may not close windows that were not opened by the script." |
| 15:28.49 | mgeary | yep |
| 15:28.51 | mgeary | that's true |
| 15:28.54 | Lone_Wanderer | So... |
| 15:29.09 | mgeary | so why do you want a script to close a window that you didn't open? |
| 15:29.15 | Lone_Wanderer | Hmm. Guess I'll have it post to itself and display a "Thanks for rejecting out T&C's, LOSER!" window. |
| 15:29.54 | mgeary | uhhh |
| 15:30.01 | mgeary | whatever works for ya |
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| 15:35.29 | Lone_Wanderer | Okay, better idea - how can I have a button redirect them to another page, as if it were a link? |
| 15:35.44 | Lone_Wanderer | self.location("url")? |
| 15:37.46 | timinator | LW: check this out: http://utahusana.com |
| 15:38.09 | timinator | a close buddy of mine sells that |
| 15:38.13 | mgeary | dude |
| 15:38.20 | mgeary | what's up with the 1.5 meg thumbnail image??! |
| 15:38.34 | timinator | and I've seen several people loose a TON of weight on the "Reset Kit" |
| 15:38.49 | mgeary | ~buy Tyrone image downsampler |
| 15:39.03 | jbot | ACTION goes to S-Mart and gets a dozen image downsamplers for Tyrone |
| 15:39.26 | timinator | hmm... I dunno |
| 15:39.44 | timinator | I'm making a new site for him though.... and that'll be optimized |
| 15:42.07 | timinator | the Reset Kit is a 5 day, shake system.... I know of 6 people that have used that in the last 4 months... losing about 10-14 lbs each |
| 15:42.49 | timinator | except for one girl that had like 2% body fat already.... she only lost 4 lbs as I recall |
| 15:44.21 | Lone_Wanderer | timinator: ahh okay |
| 15:44.39 | Lone_Wanderer | Wait, wait... |
| 15:44.54 | Lone_Wanderer | WHY would ANYONE who has 2% body fat (especially a girl) try to lose weight? |
| 15:45.00 | Lone_Wanderer | 2% body fat is like, on the verge of death |
| 15:45.18 | Lone_Wanderer | (for a girl, anyway - they normally have higher body fat %'s than men) |
| 15:45.34 | timinator | I don't know how much body fat she has, I was making an illustration |
| 15:45.40 | timinator | she's thin already |
| 15:45.45 | Lone_Wanderer | oh ok |
| 15:45.46 | timinator | and works out a ton |
| 15:45.48 | Lone_Wanderer | whew |
| 15:45.54 | timinator | LOL |
| 15:47.47 | Lone_Wanderer | I think Lance Armstrong has a higher body fat % than 2% |
| 15:47.54 | Lone_Wanderer | but I don't recall for sure. anyway, meeting time, gotta go. |
| 15:48.14 | timinator | same here.... later guys |
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| 17:43.52 | macnewbold | losing 10-14 lbs in 5 days is not healthy |
| 17:46.29 | macnewbold | to work long term, they do |
| 17:47.02 | macnewbold | permanent change in weight or body fat will almost always require permanent change in lifestyle, eating habits, exercise habits, etc. |
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| 17:51.41 | _psychic_ | Seems to be a no-brainer to me. |
| 17:51.57 | _psychic_ | Well of course if you cut out carbs, you'll lose weight, but what happens when you eat them again? |
| 17:52.01 | _psychic_ | *duh* |
| 18:21.41 | thebigdog | not to mention soda...that is a killer |
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| 18:45.43 | mindjuju | who here knows about power supplies? |
| 18:45.51 | mgeary | like what/ |
| 18:45.52 | mgeary | ? |
| 18:45.59 | mindjuju | heya mgeary |
| 18:46.02 | mindjuju | check this out real quick |
| 18:46.03 | mgeary | hi |
| 18:46.03 | mindjuju | http://www.pugetsystems.com/submerged.php |
| 18:46.06 | thebigdog | plug them in |
| 18:46.15 | mindjuju | i didn't know the PS could be submerged |
| 18:46.22 | mindjuju | i'm going to do this |
| 18:46.26 | mgeary | urgh |
| 18:46.28 | mindjuju | like really. |
| 18:46.32 | mgeary | ah, in oil |
| 18:46.54 | mindjuju | i'm going to do this with my music computer |
| 18:48.10 | mindjuju | i also didn't know the hdds get submerged |
| 18:48.35 | mgeary | seems like that would really slow down their spin rate, unless those are in airtight containers |
| 18:49.35 | mindjuju | the power supply is what scared me the post |
| 18:49.50 | mindjuju | i've got a couple of 1g hdds that i could test and see |
| 18:50.02 | mindjuju | i'm guessing the case is airtight to be able to be submerged |
| 18:56.49 | mindjuju | if anybody wants some fun code that replaces a non Password form field type with *** after 3 seconds, check this out. I wrote it for this guy in the CF forum. it's scrappy, but'll do the job |
| 18:56.50 | mindjuju | http://pastebin.ca/476886 |
| 19:09.55 | PoeticIntensity | ah man.... Whoever wrote this, obviously isn't a gamer. |
| 19:10.08 | mgeary | ? |
| 19:10.08 | PoeticIntensity | While you could add some radiators and pump the oil through to cool it, you realistically would not be gaming constantly for 12 hours, so these temperatures are as extreme as it gets for this system. |
| 19:10.18 | PoeticIntensity | I've gamed for more than 12 hours hundreds of times. |
| 19:10.20 | PoeticIntensity | honestly. |
| 19:10.21 | mindjuju | oh, i saw that |
| 19:10.33 | PoeticIntensity | any WoW gamers play more than 12 hours at a time? |
| 19:10.33 | mindjuju | yeah, we played half life deathmatch for hours |
| 19:10.35 | PoeticIntensity | holy cow. |
| 19:10.38 | PoeticIntensity | absolutely. |
| 19:11.05 | PoeticIntensity | It doesn't seem too much a stretch to expect that you wouldn't put a typical computer under load for more than 12 hours...after all, even gamers have to sleep! |
| 19:11.07 | PoeticIntensity | That's another fun one. |
| 19:11.18 | PoeticIntensity | They obviously haven't heard of caffeine or energy drinks. |
| 19:11.41 | mindjuju | the thing i liked about HL deathmatch was the skins |
| 19:12.06 | mindjuju | i had this AWESOME skin of 2 midgets on standing on the shoulders of the other with the top one holding the weapon and the bottom doing the running |
| 19:12.13 | mindjuju | it was AWESOME! |
| 19:12.23 | PoeticIntensity | holy COW |
| 19:12.34 | PoeticIntensity | that would have me rolling.... I wouldn't be able to play against a char like that! |
| 19:12.41 | PoeticIntensity | dang... |
| 19:12.43 | PoeticIntensity | that'd be hilarous. |
| 19:13.01 | mindjuju | i wonder if that site with the skins for HL is still open |
| 19:13.05 | PoeticIntensity | hehe.... I played HL using Cartman all the time. |
| 19:13.24 | PoeticIntensity | had people laughing when we had company LAN parties. |
| 19:13.38 | PoeticIntensity | I haven't played a HL deathmatch in ages. |
| 19:14.47 | mindjuju | we shoudl see if we can set something up |
| 19:15.00 | PoeticIntensity | oh yeah. |
| 19:15.53 | mindjuju | well, i've been threating dataw0lf at halo 2 for some time |
| 19:16.04 | mindjuju | but he always seems to find some kind of excuse to not play me |
| 19:21.06 | mindjuju | PoeticIntensity, do you LAN comps or consoles or both? |
| 19:21.15 | PoeticIntensity | comps. |
| 19:21.22 | PoeticIntensity | I play Halo 2 with my brother.... |
| 19:21.31 | PoeticIntensity | but it takes me hours to get so I can even have fun. |
| 19:21.38 | PoeticIntensity | (with the console) |
| 19:22.00 | PoeticIntensity | I've played computer games for .... shoot... at least a decade. |
| 19:22.04 | PoeticIntensity | FPS. |
| 19:22.31 | PoeticIntensity | My brother has Halo2 parties and freak, that's hilarious... there's so much trash-talk, it's hilarious. |
| 19:22.35 | mindjuju | don't know if Descent counts for a FPS, but i'd play that for hours |
| 19:22.42 | mindjuju | and hexen too, but not as much |
| 19:22.42 | PoeticIntensity | hehe.... |
| 19:22.46 | PoeticIntensity | Descent rocked. |
| 19:22.49 | PoeticIntensity | 1, 2 and 3. |
| 19:22.57 | _psychic_ | so did hexen |
| 19:23.17 | mindjuju | it was look Doom |
| 19:23.19 | _psychic_ | lesser known id classis |
| 19:23.20 | _psychic_ | *classic |
| 19:23.22 | PoeticIntensity | Doooooooooooom. |
| 19:23.25 | mgeary | hexen was after Quake, wasn't it? |
| 19:23.26 | mindjuju | magic based |
| 19:23.28 | _psychic_ | yes |
| 19:23.40 | _psychic_ | sorta medieval |
| 19:23.48 | mgeary | yep |
| 19:23.54 | mindjuju | and there was this one WAY COOL artifact that if you threw, would turn the person it hit into a chicken |
| 19:23.56 | mindjuju | way funny |
| 19:24.35 | _psychic_ | good times |
| 19:25.49 | mindjuju | we'll, we could do this. A LAN party. A uphpu LAN party |
| 19:26.01 | PoeticIntensity | I'm there. |
| 19:26.06 | PoeticIntensity | computer or console? |
| 19:26.11 | mindjuju | both |
| 19:26.18 | PoeticIntensity | sounds good to me! |
| 19:26.36 | mindjuju | i did a LAN party like that a couple years back and it worked awesome |
| 19:26.49 | PoeticIntensity | BYOT? |
| 19:26.50 | mindjuju | cause after a while, you get tired of comps and want to do something different, jump to the console |
| 19:27.06 | mindjuju | we even had super mario melee on the game cube running |
| 19:27.06 | PoeticIntensity | Bring Your Own TV? |
| 19:27.12 | mindjuju | yeah |
| 19:27.12 | PoeticIntensity | NO WAY! |
| 19:27.15 | PoeticIntensity | LOL |
| 19:27.17 | PoeticIntensity | that's awesome. |
| 19:28.13 | _psychic_ | it'd be fun to play wii sports :) |
| 19:28.30 | mindjuju | i haven't actually seen a wii |
| 19:29.19 | mindjuju | do you have one _psychic_ ? |
| 19:29.34 | _psychic_ | yes |
| 19:29.45 | mindjuju | what's the new Zelda like? |
| 19:29.49 | mindjuju | loved wind walker |
| 19:29.54 | _psychic_ | awesome |
| 19:29.59 | _psychic_ | loving it so far |
| 19:30.06 | _psychic_ | I do wish it was more difficult, though |
| 19:30.10 | _psychic_ | (arcade-wise) |
| 19:30.25 | _psychic_ | its way fun to swing around that sword |
| 19:30.25 | mindjuju | have you seen the previews for the new metroid, Corruption? |
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| 19:30.30 | mindjuju | that looks crazy cool |
| 19:30.34 | _psychic_ | especially on whilst riding |
| 19:30.38 | _psychic_ | I haven't |
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| 19:34.28 | mindjuju | k, well, i'm going to start to set something up. I'm tentatively saying June. I'm going to try to have it here at work cause there is tons of space spare comps and a place we could setup consoles |
| 19:34.35 | Lone_Wanderer | ~lart annoying neighbors |
| 19:34.36 | jbot | acting on orders from an unspecified client drags annoying neighbors into court suing for $200 million |
| 19:34.46 | Lone_Wanderer | Outstanding. |
| 19:34.50 | Lone_Wanderer | And very apropos. |
| 19:35.40 | mindjuju | will need to hard cap at like 20 though, cause after that, it gets crazy |
| 19:35.54 | mindjuju | on the network and otherwise |
| 19:46.34 | Lone_Wanderer | mmmm, avocado. |
| 19:46.38 | Lone_Wanderer | sweet artery clogging goodness |
| 19:47.03 | Lone_Wanderer | hmm, maybe I shouldn't be eating a whole avocado within a few days of going for a physical |
| 19:55.49 | mindjuju | man, that lunch hour went fast. for anybody with a few moments still, check this out on lightsabers |
| 19:55.49 | mindjuju | http://entertainment.howstuffworks.com/lightsaber.htm |
| 19:55.53 | mindjuju | it's hilarious |
| 20:11.47 | Lone_Wanderer | Light sabers are one of the few things that I really, really wish were real. |
| 20:59.23 | mgeary | alright, i think we're getting closer to the point where we need to hire someone. |
| 20:59.49 | mgeary | we'd be looking for someone with at least some OOP experience and an understanding of templates |
| 21:00.30 | mgeary | if anyone here is interested in talking about it, or knows of someone, you can PM me or email me at michael.geary (at) treelinegroup dot com |
| 21:00.54 | mgeary | i guess i finally have to sign up to the email list |
| 21:01.02 | thebigdog | and i telecommute and work from home? |
| 21:01.06 | thebigdog | at night? |
| 21:01.10 | mindjuju | Me has tons of Out of Pocket (OOP) experience. It seems like i have to pay up front for everything |
| 21:01.23 | mgeary | heh |
| 21:01.55 | mindjuju | ~bonk thebigdog for no crazy train |
| 21:01.59 | jbot | ACTION bonks thebigdog for no crazy train over the head |
| 21:02.09 | mgeary | no telecommuters at the moment |
| 21:02.28 | thebigdog | ouch...but i have mad skillz |
| 21:02.30 | thebigdog | :) |
| 21:02.39 | thebigdog | i fix mindjuju's stuff all the time |
| 21:02.45 | mindjuju | psh |
| 21:03.04 | thebigdog | mindjuju ty for the check too |
| 21:03.40 | mgeary | sweet |
| 21:03.47 | thebigdog | 15 yrs fixing peoples broken code |
| 21:04.10 | thebigdog | mgeary, where you work at? |
| 21:04.30 | mgeary | at a very small company in Orem called The Treeline Group |
| 21:04.43 | thebigdog | oh...yeah orem...too far for the bigdog |
| 21:05.00 | mgeary | where are you? |
| 21:05.30 | mindjuju | he's up in ogden |
| 21:05.30 | thebigdog | SabiOso, Inc |
| 21:05.37 | thebigdog | yeah clearfield |
| 21:05.43 | mgeary | ah |
| 21:05.54 | mindjuju | thebigdog , do you play comps or consoles ? |
| 21:06.02 | thebigdog | comps |
| 21:06.07 | thebigdog | fo sure |
| 21:06.17 | mindjuju | k, i'm REALLY going to do a LAN party this year |
| 21:06.23 | mindjuju | you bes be there! |
| 21:06.36 | mindjuju | maybe we could time it so dataw0lf could be there |
| 21:06.39 | thebigdog | yeah i only play wow though |
| 21:06.39 | mindjuju | ~wake dataw0lf |
| 21:06.45 | jbot | ACTION throws a barrel-full of ice water on dataw0lf and shouts "GOOD MORNING!!!!" |
| 21:06.50 | thebigdog | up actually up for anything really |
| 21:09.37 | thebigdog | man i have grundles of data |
| 21:09.52 | mindjuju | ~grundles |
| 21:10.07 | thebigdog | that is long version of tb |
| 21:10.17 | mindjuju | ~seen dataw0lf |
| 21:10.51 | jbot | dataw0lf is currently on #utah #uphpu, last said: 'yea, he's awesome'. |
| 21:12.09 | thebigdog | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:12.09 | thebigdog | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:12.09 | thebigdog | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:12.09 | thebigdog | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:12.17 | thebigdog | grundles |
| 21:12.30 | Lone_Wanderer | Is there any good example of how many words you can fit into 255 characters? |
| 21:12.50 | mindjuju | i wonder what happened to dataw0lf. last time i checked, he ain't said anything for like 2 weeks |
| 21:13.02 | Lone_Wanderer | Yeah, he comes and goes a lot. |
| 21:13.14 | thebigdog | no idea |
| 21:13.14 | mindjuju | average word is 5 -7 characters |
| 21:13.22 | mgeary | indeed |
| 21:13.27 | thebigdog | 51 words |
| 21:13.36 | Lone_Wanderer | thanks |
| 21:13.38 | thebigdog | or 48 |
| 21:13.47 | Lone_Wanderer | that should be plenty for a short description then |
| 21:13.47 | mindjuju | don't forget spaces between words though |
| 21:14.12 | thebigdog | yeah and there is alot of fillers too |
| 21:14.20 | thebigdog | like a, the, and, etc |
| 21:14.35 | Lone_Wanderer | grrr |
| 21:14.42 | Lone_Wanderer | how do I make a money field in MySQL? |
| 21:14.43 | mindjuju | oh, like for a descrip field? I hard cap that thing and when people say it's too short, i tell them its a description field, not a book field |
| 21:14.54 | Lone_Wanderer | I tried DECIMAL( '10.2' ) |
| 21:14.58 | Lone_Wanderer | and without the quotes |
| 21:15.03 | mgeary | float(8,2) |
| 21:15.08 | Lone_Wanderer | thanks |
| 21:15.09 | mgeary | that's what i use |
| 21:15.27 | thebigdog | i wonder how floats really work in mysql |
| 21:15.43 | thebigdog | i was reading some good stuff on why not to use floats and doubles with money |
| 21:15.48 | thebigdog | cause of the rounding features |
| 21:16.00 | mgeary | oh yeah? |
| 21:16.17 | thebigdog | decimal and percision were recommended |
| 21:16.17 | Lone_Wanderer | What should I use? |
| 21:16.17 | Lone_Wanderer | And how do I create a decimal field? |
| 21:16.17 | thebigdog | decimal does not work? |
| 21:16.31 | Lone_Wanderer | Well, it's not working for me anyway. |
| 21:16.42 | thebigdog | decimal(10,2); |
| 21:17.10 | thebigdog | http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/precision-math.html |
| 21:17.34 | Lone_Wanderer | thanks |
| 21:17.44 | thebigdog | np...ill be here all week |
| 21:17.46 | Lone_Wanderer | ohh, with a comma |
| 21:18.00 | Lone_Wanderer | there we go |
| 21:19.56 | thebigdog | For approximate-value numbers, the result depends on the C library. On many systems, this means that ROUND() uses the “round to nearest even” rule: A value with any fractional part is rounded to the nearest even integer. |
| 21:25.25 | Lone_Wanderer | ahh, ok |
| 21:26.00 | mindjuju | ugh, i need some trees |
| 21:26.02 | Lone_Wanderer | mmmm, delicious empty calories |
| 21:26.12 | Lone_Wanderer | trees? |
| 21:26.26 | mindjuju | yeah, trunk, some limbs, branches, leaves |
| 21:26.35 | Lone_Wanderer | Why? |
| 21:26.43 | Lone_Wanderer | For relaxing under, or some other reason? |
| 21:27.09 | mindjuju | originally from Houston where they had to clear cut thick forest to make room for the city, where I had a decent density forest within 3 miles of my house |
| 21:27.15 | mindjuju | only scrub brush around here |
| 21:27.15 | thebigdog | mgeary, what techs you use at your work with php? |
| 21:27.31 | mindjuju | yeah, for relaxing |
| 21:27.32 | mgeary | what do you mean? |
| 21:27.43 | mindjuju | i'm looking for cabin with trees |
| 21:27.58 | thebigdog | mindjuju my grandparents have a cabin at sundance that rocks |
| 21:28.03 | thebigdog | i love to go up there |
| 21:28.18 | mgeary | thebigdog: oh yeah, well my great-grandfather used to *own* sundance.... |
| 21:28.19 | thebigdog | mgeary, just curious what you guys use php5 + |
| 21:28.29 | thebigdog | mgeary, same here |
| 21:28.34 | Lone_Wanderer | amen mindjuju |
| 21:28.37 | mgeary | Alma Stewart? |
| 21:28.43 | mgeary | is mgeary related to thebigdog ? |
| 21:28.47 | Lone_Wanderer | Even up in the mountains they don't have REAL trees. |
| 21:28.47 | thebigdog | yep |
| 21:28.59 | mgeary | well heya cousin |
| 21:29.00 | thebigdog | my grandmother is cozette stewart |
| 21:29.07 | thebigdog | rock on |
| 21:29.11 | mgeary | yeah, she's from the FIRST wife. |
| 21:29.14 | thebigdog | what a small world |
| 21:29.18 | thebigdog | oh |
| 21:29.23 | mgeary | we're from the SECOND wife. so OUR family didn't get lots ;) |
| 21:29.30 | thebigdog | oh |
| 21:29.45 | thebigdog | hey i only get to visit when grandpa says ok |
| 21:29.47 | mgeary | my grandfather is Robert Stewart |
| 21:29.51 | mindjuju | are there trees at sundance? |
| 21:29.59 | Lone_Wanderer | Some. But they're puny. |
| 21:30.00 | thebigdog | mindjuju tons |
| 21:30.03 | Lone_Wanderer | Small and frail. |
| 21:30.10 | Lone_Wanderer | Stunted by the altitude and lack of water. |
| 21:30.11 | thebigdog | quakes i think |
| 21:30.18 | mindjuju | oh |
| 21:30.27 | mindjuju | yeah, i miss trees |
| 21:30.27 | mgeary | actually, the largest living organism in the entire world is at Sundance |
| 21:30.29 | Lone_Wanderer | Yeah. We had bigger trees in my backyard when I was growing up. |
| 21:30.47 | Lone_Wanderer | That's largest by volume. Each individual stalk is still small. |
| 21:30.49 | thebigdog | when i lived in alaska we had tons of trees |
| 21:30.56 | mgeary | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pando_(Quaking_Aspen) |
| 21:31.07 | mindjuju | sad thing was, here about 2 years ago, i was going twitchy for the lack of trees, and people were telling me to go to kamus to seek out trees |
| 21:31.13 | mgeary | eww |
| 21:31.20 | mindjuju | i get to Kamus, and there werent a dog gone tree for miles |
| 21:31.22 | mgeary | Camus doesn't have trees |
| 21:31.27 | mindjuju | yeah, nothing |
| 21:31.30 | Lone_Wanderer | Go to Minnesota, man. |
| 21:31.31 | mindjuju | i was sooooo pissed |
| 21:31.39 | mindjuju | Minnesota? |
| 21:31.40 | Lone_Wanderer | St. Paul. The... oh what's it called. |
| 21:31.41 | mindjuju | what part? |
| 21:31.54 | Lone_Wanderer | Yeah man. Old Man River keeps it nice and green down there. |
| 21:32.03 | Lone_Wanderer | Minnehaha Park |
| 21:32.05 | mgeary | anyway, thebigdog, we use PHP5, MySQL (though we're certainly open to PgSQL), Smarty... |
| 21:32.23 | mindjuju | anybody been to Jackson Hole? I'm actually going to take my wife up there. (i picked jackson hole cause i heard there were trees) |
| 21:32.25 | Lone_Wanderer | There's a trail you can take down to the Mississippi and the trees are huge. |
| 21:32.25 | mgeary | yeah |
| 21:32.30 | mgeary | Jackson is nice |
| 21:32.39 | Lone_Wanderer | Like, four story building huge. |
| 21:32.42 | mgeary | if you can, take a rafting ride on the Snake River |
| 21:33.20 | Lone_Wanderer | Or maybe my memory is playing tricks on me. I was younger then. But they're definitely gigantic. |
| 21:33.27 | mindjuju | Lone_Wanderer |
| 21:33.34 | mindjuju | where are you talking about? |
| 21:33.44 | Lone_Wanderer | The trees at Minnehaha Park in St. Paul. |
| 21:33.49 | mindjuju | k, i'm looking |
| 21:34.11 | mgeary | wps: do i need to subscribe separately to the jobs list? |
| 21:34.18 | wps | yes |
| 21:34.20 | mgeary | k |
| 21:34.24 | Lone_Wanderer | There's a little stream (what would be called a "river" here) that runs through the park and feeds into the Mississippi. |
| 21:34.28 | mgeary | sorry for the abuse, folks |
| 21:34.33 | wps | sorry… that's to prevent spam |
| 21:34.41 | mgeary | i understand |
| 21:34.57 | mgeary | but now i feel obligated to stick around on the main list for at least a bit |
| 21:34.59 | mgeary | ;) |
| 21:35.09 | wps | :) |
| 21:36.46 | mindjuju | Holy Crap!!! |
| 21:37.08 | wps | I told you that babies didn't come from storks, mindjuju |
| 21:37.17 | mindjuju | k, maybe i'm not going to jackson hole, maybe going to st paul, minnesota |
| 21:37.19 | mindjuju | http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=st.+paul,+minnesota&ie=UTF8&ll=44.94202,-93.123701&spn=0.013031,0.026822&t=k&z=16&iwloc=addr&om=1 |
| 21:37.26 | mindjuju | you can see the trees in the sat image! |
| 21:37.42 | Lone_Wanderer | I told you! |
| 21:37.56 | mindjuju | dude! k, how far is it from here? |
| 21:38.12 | Lone_Wanderer | The Twin Cities also has the most park acreage per capita out of all the cities in the country. |
| 21:38.16 | Lone_Wanderer | I dunno. About a thousand miles. |
| 21:38.21 | wps | I'm going to grant you a special pass, mgeary |
| 21:38.33 | Lone_Wanderer | http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=st.+paul,+minnesota&ie=UTF8&ll=44.94202,-93.123701&spn=0.013031,0.026822&t=k&z=16&iwloc=addr&om=1 |
| 21:38.39 | wps | (normally job announcements are not approved without salary information) |
| 21:38.48 | mgeary | ah |
| 21:38.51 | mgeary | ~lart me |
| 21:38.51 | jbot | smacks mgeary up side the head with a clue-by-4 |
| 21:38.54 | Lone_Wanderer | scroll down and to the right a bit with that link mindjuju |
| 21:39.22 | mindjuju | on the other side of that river bank? |
| 21:39.27 | mgeary | salary depends on experience. We're very small, so we're not terribly formal. No HR depts. ;) |
| 21:39.44 | mindjuju | wow, 1322 miles |
| 21:39.59 | mgeary | wps: but i can resend, if you'd like, and give a range |
| 21:40.15 | thebigdog | mgeary, i was talking with my grandpa and we are from the paul stewart side of the house |
| 21:40.43 | wps | I should have made you… but I approved it |
| 21:40.43 | Lone_Wanderer | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnehaha_Falls - apparently it's not even a stream, it's a creek. |
| 21:40.45 | wps | it's through |
| 21:40.57 | mgeary | aww, shucks |
| 21:41.28 | Lone_Wanderer | and http://www.minnehahapark.org/ for the grand finale |
| 21:41.40 | mindjuju | lone_wanderer , there is a place like that in virginia. absolutely beautiful |
| 21:41.40 | mindjuju | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Redoneminnehaha.jpg |
| 21:42.13 | Lone_Wanderer | yeah, I've been behind there |
| 21:42.37 | Lone_Wanderer | It's not terribly pleasant, actually, to go behind a waterfall. |
| 21:45.56 | Lone_Wanderer | mindjuju: I get the same way about trees. It's weird how not having them around can be subtly stressful. |
| 21:52.39 | PoeticIntensity | ok.... |
| 21:52.51 | PoeticIntensity | mgeary, that's freakin' awesome about the quaking aspens. |
| 21:52.58 | PoeticIntensity | I didn't know they were all part of the same organism! |
| 21:53.00 | PoeticIntensity | that's awesome! |
| 21:53.00 | mgeary | yeah |
| 21:53.09 | PoeticIntensity | and mindjuju, have you never been to the redwood forest in California? |
| 21:53.16 | PoeticIntensity | *those* are *trees* |
| 21:53.42 | PoeticIntensity | and it's quite a bit closer than MN, too. |
| 21:56.28 | PoeticIntensity | http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=redwood+forest,+CA&sll=40.391976,-111.808479&sspn=0.167088,0.317574&ie=UTF8&ll=41.279177,-124.019122&spn=0.005152,0.009924&t=k&z=17&om=1 |
| 21:56.30 | PoeticIntensity | those are trees. :) |
| 21:56.37 | PoeticIntensity | that's in the redwood forest. |
| 21:57.37 | PoeticIntensity | I was like... 10 when I went there, but I remember that my whole family of 7 could barely wrap our arms, holding hands, around the base of one tree. (probably equal to about 6 feet in radius, I would imagine) |
| 21:58.01 | PoeticIntensity | not entirely sure, but ..... I do remember the trees were enormous. |
| 21:58.55 | mgeary | PoeticIntensity: so, a diameter of roughly 37.699111843077517, eh? |
| 21:59.01 | mgeary | (feet) |
| 21:59.12 | PoeticIntensity | possibly..... |
| 21:59.13 | PoeticIntensity | no idea. |
| 21:59.16 | mgeary | ;) |
| 21:59.31 | PoeticIntensity | seriously, though. |
| 21:59.37 | PoeticIntensity | those trees are unbelievably big. |
| 21:59.41 | PoeticIntensity | both tall and wide. |
| 22:01.15 | PoeticIntensity | http://www.letsatv.com/images/photos/treebig_lg.jpg |
| 22:01.18 | PoeticIntensity | why yes.... |
| 22:01.25 | PoeticIntensity | 37.69 feet AT LEAST. |
| 22:01.28 | PoeticIntensity | check that image out. |
| 22:06.39 | Lone_Wanderer | pfsh |
| 22:06.42 | Lone_Wanderer | redwoods suck |
| 22:07.08 | Lone_Wanderer | Minnesota rulez |
| 22:08.11 | mindjuju | sorry, i'm back |
| 22:08.27 | mindjuju | yeah, miss the trees |
| 22:10.45 | Lone_Wanderer | I was going to link you to the boundary waters on Google Maps but it really doesn't look that cool. |
| 22:10.45 | Lone_Wanderer | it just looks like a lot of really, really flat land with a ton of lakes. Which I guess is what it is. |
| 22:46.39 | *** join/#uphpu seant23 (n=seant23@69.27.17.186) |
| 22:55.34 | mgeary | there's people here who've never said a peep as long as i've been around |
| 23:06.48 | thebigdog | ~hail thebigdog |
| 23:07.05 | jbot | ACTION bows down to thebigdog and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" |
| 23:13.00 | mgeary | ~admire thebigdog |
| 23:13.17 | thebigdog | ~praise thebigdog |
| 23:13.21 | jbot | All hail thebigdog! |
| 23:13.40 | mgeary | ~boggle thebigdog |
| 23:13.44 | jbot | ACTION stares in flabbergasted astonishment at thebigdog |
| 23:13.52 | mgeary | i like that one |
| 23:14.53 | thebigdog | ~tickle mgeary |
| 23:15.00 | jbot | ACTION jumps on mgeary, yelling "TICKLE FIGHT!!!!" |
| 23:15.11 | mgeary | ~slap thebigdog. "i'm not that kind of guy" |
| 23:15.22 | jbot | ACTION slaps thebigdog. "i'm not that kind of guy", keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 23:15.23 | thebigdog | ~pimpslap mgeary |
| 23:15.25 | jbot | thebigdog pimpslaps mgeary. ouch! |
| 23:15.39 | mgeary | ~admire mgeary |
| 23:15.42 | jbot | ACTION secretly and androgynously wishes it were just like mgeary |
| 23:15.58 | Lone_Wanderer | who, mgeary? |
| 23:16.34 | mgeary | ~seen jbnek |
| 23:17.19 | jbot | i haven't seen 'jbnek', mgeary |
| 23:17.20 | mgeary | ~seen cycokilr |
| 23:18.10 | jbot | cycokilr is currently on #uphpu, last said: 'you guys might find it funny..'. |
| 23:18.12 | mgeary | see? |
| 23:18.12 | Lone_Wanderer | I do see. |
| 23:18.35 | Lone_Wanderer | I DO find it funny, cycokilr. |
| 23:18.58 | mgeary | oops |
| 23:19.00 | Lone_Wanderer | Oh wow. All of a sudden I want teriyaki chicken. |
| 23:19.01 | mgeary | ~seen jnbek |
| 23:19.36 | jbot | jnbek is currently on #utah #uphpu, last said: 'lol'. |
| 23:19.36 | Lone_Wanderer | Like bad. I wonder where the nearest Hogi Yogi is. |
| 23:19.36 | thebigdog | i wanted to grill chicken tonight :( |
| 23:19.36 | mgeary | Hogi Yogi-- |
| 23:19.37 | Lone_Wanderer | why mgeary? |
| 23:19.51 | mgeary | never found anything there i can get excited about |
| 23:20.01 | Lone_Wanderer | I like the teriyaki chicken bowl, clearly. |
| 23:20.32 | Lone_Wanderer | Like what? |
| 23:21.18 | Lone_Wanderer | Okay, wow, I can honestly say that I would rather gargle bleach than work on this site. |
| 23:21.19 | mgeary | when mgeary goes to a Chinese restaurant he pretty much ONLY gets (fried rice | broccoli beef | lemon chicken) |
| 23:21.42 | Lone_Wanderer | So is it that you like simple food, or that you don't like to try things that you don't already know that you like? |
| 23:21.56 | Lone_Wanderer | because lemon chicken and broccoli beef aren't what I'd consider "simple" |
| 23:22.17 | mgeary | sure they are. no funny things in there. just sauce, meat and rice |
| 23:22.29 | mgeary | don't like onions, mushrooms, nuts cooked in things, etc |
| 23:22.41 | Lone_Wanderer | well, teriyaki chicken is just chicken, teriyaki sauce and rice... so I'm confused now |
| 23:22.47 | Lone_Wanderer | I don't like mushrooms either. |
| 23:22.47 | mgeary | heh |
| 23:22.58 | mgeary | i also don't like discordant tastes like sweet+sour or sweet+savory |
| 23:23.06 | Lone_Wanderer | ahh |
| 23:23.15 | mgeary | whoever thought putting cherry sauce on ham was an idiot :) |
| 23:23.20 | Lone_Wanderer | So you wouldn't like, say, sweet meats |
| 23:23.25 | mgeary | uhh. thought *of* |
| 23:23.57 | Lone_Wanderer | Yeah, that would be seriously weird. |
| 23:24.21 | Lone_Wanderer | You probably don't like thai curries then either, right? Because they've got spicy and sweet together. |
| 23:24.30 | mgeary | right |
| 23:24.36 | mgeary | i don't mind just straight curry |
| 23:24.44 | mgeary | but i don't like any Thai food that i've tried |
| 23:24.51 | Lone_Wanderer | like Indian curries are okay? |
| 23:25.08 | mgeary | a nice simple chicken curry on rice or potatoes is okay |
| 23:25.09 | Lone_Wanderer | The ones of those I've tried don't mix it up much iirc |
| 23:25.17 | mgeary | yeah |
| 23:25.19 | Lone_Wanderer | but I don't pay much attention to that kind of thing so I may not have noticed |
| 23:26.46 | Lone_Wanderer | I have a habit of repeatedly ordering things that I know I like, which has the disadvantage of making me miss out on things that a restaurant has that may be really good, but that I hadn't tried before. |
| 23:26.46 | mgeary | yeah, me too. |
| 23:26.56 | Lone_Wanderer | Like, I don't think I've ever tried any kind of curry besides mussaman. |
| 23:27.12 | mgeary | but it's pretty rare that i've been pleasantly surprised when trying something i don't think i'm going to like |
| 23:27.40 | mgeary | some foods have grown on me though. When i was first in Germany on my mission i had to choke down rotkohl (pickled red cabbage). now i love it |
| 23:29.24 | Lone_Wanderer | Anything with the word "rot" in the name... |
| 23:29.32 | mgeary | heh |
| 23:29.34 | Lone_Wanderer | Also, Germans have a thing for fermenting and pickling. I don't get it. |
| 23:30.01 | mgeary | many cultures seem to enjoy pickling cabbage. take Kimchi for example |
| 23:30.03 | mgeary | ugh |
| 23:30.05 | Lone_Wanderer | Except the beer. I get that people like to get drunk, but apparently some people enjoy the taste, which boggles my mind. |
| 23:30.23 | Lone_Wanderer | I mean, you could be drinking rum. Come on. |
| 23:37.27 | *** part/#uphpu seant23 (n=seant23@69.27.17.186) |
| 23:43.24 | synic | hey, dark beer tastes good. |
| 23:45.07 | Lone_Wanderer | What brands (or whatever) are dark? |
| 23:51.24 | synic | Guinness |
| 23:51.31 | synic | Um, any porter |
| 23:51.36 | synic | Murphy's |
| 23:51.37 | Lone_Wanderer | I've smelled that before. It stinks to high heaven. |
| 23:51.44 | synic | yes, it smells |
| 23:51.48 | synic | but it tastes amazing |
| 23:51.52 | Lone_Wanderer | smells bad, tastes good? |
| 23:51.58 | Lone_Wanderer | I guess there are some cheeses like that. |
| 23:51.58 | synic | .... like parmesan cheese |
| 23:52.01 | synic | :) |
| 23:52.15 | Lone_Wanderer | Have you ever had fresh grated parmesan? |
| 23:52.32 | synic | of course |
| 23:52.38 | Lone_Wanderer | Because that is so absurdly good it makes me want to drown in a sea of it. |
| 23:52.51 | mgeary | parmesan++ |
| 23:52.54 | mgeary | cheese++ |
| 23:52.55 | Lone_Wanderer | Prefferably as part of a rich white sauce |
| 23:52.56 | synic | Lone_Wanderer: where do you live? |
| 23:53.01 | Lone_Wanderer | Taylorsville |
| 23:53.11 | mgeary | ~console Lone_Wanderer |
| 23:53.50 | jbot | ACTION gives Lone_Wanderer the consolation moose |
| 23:53.50 | Lone_Wanderer | there's a place in Salt Lake where you can get it. An Italian deli. They have a ton of stuff I guess. |
| 23:53.51 | synic | Lone_Wanderer: perhaps I should take you to a bar and by you some good beer. |
| 23:53.51 | Lone_Wanderer | console? |
| 23:53.51 | mgeary | Taylorsville ;) |
| 23:53.51 | synic | er... buy |
| 23:53.51 | Lone_Wanderer | Ahh. I was thinking like, the Mac OS console. |
| 23:53.52 | mgeary | heh |
| 23:53.55 | Lone_Wanderer | That works. I have a membership at the Bayou but all I ever buy there is Tsingtao. |
| 23:54.16 | Lone_Wanderer | And various ciders, which are like candy. |
| 23:54.32 | synic | Lone_Wanderer: we usually go to the Republican, which is down the street from the Bayou |
| 23:54.36 | Lone_Wanderer | Oh, cool. |
| 23:54.55 | synic | We go every Friday if you want to come |
| 23:54.59 | Lone_Wanderer | sure |
| 23:55.07 | Lone_Wanderer | was DW here the other weekend? |
| 23:55.18 | synic | yes... and he was at the bar with us |
| 23:55.27 | synic | crap, gtg. |
| 23:55.29 | Lone_Wanderer | He said he was going to be, and I was going to hang out with y'all, but then something came up. I forget what it was now, but it was sufficiently pressing. |
| 23:55.29 | synic | ttyl. |
| 23:55.31 | Lone_Wanderer | later |
| 23:55.51 | Lone_Wanderer | Same here. Later all. |
| 23:56.18 | mgeary | later |
