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| 00:31.34 | mindjuju | timeout scripts do NOT belong on a forum page, that's just the goofiest thing EVAR |
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| 02:17.29 | mindjuju | <div class="loginBox" |
| 02:17.30 | mindjuju | <in |
| 02:17.30 | mindjuju | dang it, wrong window |
| 02:17.31 | burnin | :) |
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| 15:47.22 | PoeticIntensity | g'day, all you wonderful UPHPU'ers. :) |
| 15:48.12 | _psychic_ | monin |
| 15:50.07 | PoeticIntensity | For all you postgres people... Is "SELECT nextval('sequence_name')" the only way to get the next ID value? |
| 15:50.35 | PoeticIntensity | and..... do any of you know a PHP function that can aid in making that a bit easier? |
| 15:50.42 | PoeticIntensity | (a-la mysql_insert_id() ) |
| 15:51.27 | jsmith | PoeticIntensity: Yes, that's the only way I know of to get the next ID value. |
| 15:51.35 | PoeticIntensity | hrmm..... |
| 15:51.40 | PoeticIntensity | then I have a question. |
| 15:51.54 | PoeticIntensity | let's say I want to have a db class. |
| 15:52.23 | PoeticIntensity | in that class, when ever someone presents an INSERT SQL command, I want the class to grab the new ID and prepare it in the class. |
| 15:52.52 | PoeticIntensity | my problem is - all the sequence names are table-based ("entries_id_seq") and such. |
| 15:53.05 | PoeticIntensity | so.... how do I tell the class what sequence to pull from? |
| 15:53.15 | PoeticIntensity | without having to pass a "table_name" into the class to help it out....' |
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| 16:06.26 | thebigdog | ~bday |
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| 16:08.54 | synic | PoeticIntensity: the INSERT statement will have the table name, no? |
| 16:09.12 | synic | you can get the table name from that. |
| 16:12.36 | PoeticIntensity | synic, yeah... but I really don't wanna write my own query parser, just to be able to accurately get the next sequence ID. |
| 16:12.50 | PoeticIntensity | I might as well just not put the ID grabber in the class. |
| 16:13.21 | thebigdog | ~birthday |
| 16:13.23 | jbot | Birthday reminder. URL: http://user.bene.baynet.de/~mschmid/ |
| 16:13.41 | thebigdog | ~wish |
| 16:13.43 | jbot | extra, extra, read all about it, wish is Simple windowing shell. Download Tk and Tcl for support. Used for configuring the kernel with "make xconfig", or (contained in "apt-get install tk8.3" which depends on tcl8.3) |
| 16:14.12 | thebigdog | ~stupid jbot |
| 17:10.22 | synic | hey folks. I know I'm a design noob... so don't make fun too much. |
| 17:10.30 | synic | How can I get this to center in IE? http://binary.twi.gs/ep |
| 17:11.12 | synic | if you look at the source, I've commented a div that has text-align: center... but if I uncomment that, it totally screws everything up in IE |
| 17:11.16 | synic | it still looks ok in firefox |
| 17:14.41 | synic | heh, nevermind. I got it. |
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| 17:31.27 | macnewbold | g'day, all |
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| 17:31.51 | Lone_Wanderer | I hereby repent for everything I've ever said about my Mac-loving colleague. |
| 17:32.10 | _psychic_ | Mac as in Newbold, or Mac as in Apple? |
| 17:32.16 | _psychic_ | Both of which are really great, btw. |
| 17:32.19 | Lone_Wanderer | Mac as in Apple. |
| 17:32.24 | Lone_Wanderer | I really am not a big Mac fan. |
| 17:33.07 | Lone_Wanderer | Anyway. I'm working on a really big site that we administer and he's done a superbly fantastic job of putting it together in a maintainable way. |
| 17:33.23 | _psychic_ | using a mac, or what? |
| 17:33.48 | Lone_Wanderer | What do you mean? |
| 17:34.43 | _psychic_ | I read "Mac-loving collegue" and assumed it was related to macs somehow I guess. |
| 17:35.09 | Lone_Wanderer | It was. |
| 17:35.17 | Lone_Wanderer | I make fun of him a lot for being a Mac fanatic. |
| 17:36.17 | mgeary | jbot: Mac people tend to be smart |
| 17:36.19 | jbot | ACTION saves people tend to be smart's soul from utter catastrophe by installing Mac OS X! |
| 17:36.31 | mgeary | wow |
| 17:38.37 | phpguru | im a guru now |
| 17:38.49 | sqlguru | oh that is more fitting |
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| 17:45.24 | raidguru | i am senor raidguru |
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| 18:11.17 | timinator | yawn |
| 18:15.22 | jsmith | raidguru: Do you have at least 15 years experience raiding and plundering? |
| 18:15.46 | mindjuju | ah, very true. a raidguru could be a viking of the nth degree |
| 18:15.48 | raidguru | not quite |
| 18:16.28 | mindjuju | i could see the person formally known as thebigdog with a viking helmet. maybe he is a viking raidguru |
| 18:17.04 | mindjuju | instructing lessor vikings on the art of plundering, wenching and the like |
| 18:17.04 | raidguru | i hate limitiations with ext3 and centos on raids bigger than 8TB |
| 18:17.34 | Lone_Wanderer | I'm a direct male-line descendant from a viking. |
| 18:18.05 | mindjuju | do you have a viking helmet? |
| 18:18.08 | Lone_Wanderer | No :(* |
| 18:18.10 | Lone_Wanderer | -* |
| 18:18.18 | Lone_Wanderer | All I have is the viking name. |
| 18:18.24 | Lone_Wanderer | (Crookston) |
| 18:19.00 | mindjuju | i wish i had a cool last name |
| 18:19.29 | Lone_Wanderer | I kept looking for it in Scottish name books and they never have it. I finally found out that the reason they don't have it is that, while the name is technically Scottish, it's actually the name of a viking who decided to stay in Scotland and was granted land by a Scottish nobleman. |
| 18:20.18 | mindjuju | hey, that's cool! |
| 18:20.32 | Lone_Wanderer | Yeah, I thought so too. |
| 18:20.37 | mindjuju | i was just watching on history channel about the dark ages and how the vikings were kicking everybody's butt |
| 18:20.51 | Lone_Wanderer | Yeah, they did a good job at butt-kicking. |
| 18:22.23 | mindjuju | my last name, on the other hand, is the same as the infamous Mexican bandit who went out looking for & killing Mormons, Pancho Villa. Which as soon as people make the last name connection, ask me if i'm related and then if they are LDS seem to scurry off pretty quick. |
| 18:22.38 | Lone_Wanderer | lol |
| 18:22.39 | Lone_Wanderer | are you? |
| 18:22.40 | mindjuju | sad cause that's not his real name and I'm not related to him directly |
| 18:22.48 | mindjuju | or indirectly |
| 18:22.53 | mgeary | did anyone catch part 1 of that PBS special on the Mormons? |
| 18:22.55 | Lone_Wanderer | oh well |
| 18:23.12 | mindjuju | i didn't, heard it was balanced, meant to record it |
| 18:23.25 | mgeary | i recorded all but the last 15 mins (ran out of tape) |
| 18:23.33 | mgeary | but it's analog VHS |
| 18:23.34 | bradym | it was pretty good.. had both members and non-members giving their input |
| 18:23.39 | burnin | I missed it, but I think I read on pbs.org that they will have it available for download. |
| 18:23.46 | mgeary | that'll be cool |
| 18:24.03 | Lone_Wanderer | cool, I'll have to watch it |
| 18:24.34 | burnin | you can leave comments on pbs.org too, and some people were not too happy with the program. :) |
| 18:24.35 | bradym | you can watch the whole thing on their site - http://www.pbs.org/mormons/view/ |
| 18:25.22 | Lone_Wanderer | What were they unhappy with? |
| 18:25.42 | Lone_Wanderer | I wonder if this has anything to do with Mitt Romney running for president |
| 18:26.06 | burnin | who knows, they weren't specific, it seems they were pissed because they spent too much time talking about poligamy and the mountain meadows masacre. |
| 18:27.20 | burnin | arg, I'll have to wait for a downloadable link, I dont' have totem setup to play wmv or mov. |
| 18:27.23 | bradym | i thought it was too bad that they ended on those topics, but they're the things that antis bring up most so it seems like a good thing that they adressed the issues and had church leaders comment on them |
| 18:28.15 | burnin | yeah, I want to see the program so I can get a feel for whether there was intentional bias or not. |
| 18:28.36 | burnin | some people are going to be pissed no matter what, on either side. |
| 18:34.08 | bradym | yeah, it's true |
| 18:34.41 | bradym | there were a few comments that didn't sit too well with me, but overall it was a good program i thought |
| 18:35.23 | burnin | pbs usually has good programming, I'd be surprised if there was intentional slant |
| 18:36.02 | burnin | although the timing is interesting, isn't there a mormon who is running for the republican presidential candidacy? |
| 18:36.29 | bradym | yeah, Mitt Romney |
| 18:53.28 | Utah_Dave | I saw it and I thought it was done pretty well. I only saw the sections on the Mountain Meadow Massacre and Polygamy |
| 18:53.37 | Utah_Dave | I thought they were handled pretty well |
| 19:00.20 | macnewbold | the "discussion" section on their site is full of people who thought it was biased one way or the other. it seemed more thought it was very anti-mormon, though there were a few who thought it wasn't negative enough towards the Church. |
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| 20:15.58 | mgeary | what's a .docx file? is that the Office2007 Word format? |
| 20:19.27 | mindjuju | a docx file is the new file format |
| 20:19.32 | mindjuju | it is actually a zip file |
| 20:19.34 | mgeary | uhg |
| 20:19.37 | mindjuju | composed of 4 xml files |
| 20:19.56 | mindjuju | this is part of that "Open" Format they are pushing |
| 20:20.09 | mgeary | can anything else open it? |
| 20:20.20 | mindjuju | with the spec on the standard over 4k pages though, and still a "secret sauce" handling images, it's hardly open |
| 20:20.28 | mindjuju | *well* |
| 20:20.43 | mindjuju | 100% all files all the time? no |
| 20:20.59 | mindjuju | that's part of star and open office argument on the file format |
| 20:21.24 | mindjuju | do you need a docx opened and converted to something else? |
| 20:21.31 | mgeary | i can have them resend |
| 20:21.36 | mindjuju | k |
| 20:22.09 | mindjuju | i know that star and part of the open xml community are working on some kind of plugin for docx, but i haven't found out if they completed it or not |
| 20:22.33 | mindjuju | we're building something on word 2k3 possibly 2k7 so i had to find out about all that stuff |
| 20:22.57 | mgeary | ~console mindjuju |
| 20:23.16 | jbot | ACTION gives mindjuju the consolation moose |
| 20:23.39 | mindjuju | yeah, it's REALLY a nightmare, though, word2k3 is worse |
| 20:24.04 | mindjuju | it used something called WordML that suxed so bad even MS dropped in favor of this new open format |
| 20:24.48 | beandog | hmm, kind of surprising MS hasnt developed their own compression format |
| 20:25.09 | mindjuju | they do have a compression util included in xp |
| 20:25.33 | mindjuju | they call it compressed folders, but the extension is .zip and all .zip progs like pkzip crack them open |
| 20:26.24 | beandog | I know, but even that they licensed from someone else |
| 20:26.33 | mindjuju | it's funny, i see them invading a whole bunch of different areas, Graphis (counter photoshop), Web (counter flash, flex), Security (counter Norton, Macafee) |
| 20:26.46 | mindjuju | but they are still having their butts handed to them by Google |
| 20:27.17 | mindjuju | i'd have a problem with google beating up on MS, but the Google apps are just so darn cool! |
| 20:27.58 | mindjuju | realtime spreadsheet for multiple users for free? and nobody needs to install anything? How cool is that? |
| 21:22.56 | macnewbold | fwiw, open office files (as well as OpenDocument formats) are also zip files composed of XML data |
| 21:24.22 | beandog | intresting. |
| 21:30.11 | PoeticIntensity | ~lart beandog |
| 21:30.11 | jbot | flings poo at beandog |
| 21:30.15 | PoeticIntensity | LOL |
| 21:30.28 | PoeticIntensity | jbot seems quite peppy today. |
| 21:30.41 | beandog | :C |
| 21:31.29 | mgeary | ~seen wps |
| 21:32.10 | jbot | wps <n=wps@67.108.236.230.ptr.us.xo.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #uphpu, 3d 23h 50m 45s ago, saying: 'yuck'. |
| 21:32.23 | mgeary | oh no |
| 21:32.29 | mgeary | wps has been poisoned |
| 21:47.49 | _psychic_ | lol |
| 21:48.13 | the_future | you will be rich and famous |
| 21:48.21 | _psychic_ | ~seen the_future |
| 21:49.01 | jbot | the_future <n=_psychic@66.7.114.126> was last seen on IRC in channel #uphpu, 48s ago, saying: 'you will be rich and famous'. |
| 21:49.02 | _psychic_ | ... |
| 21:49.14 | _psychic_ | sweeeeeeeeet |
| 21:55.12 | Lone_Wanderer | lol that's awesome |
| 21:55.16 | Lone_Wanderer | you're totally psychic |
| 21:55.29 | Lone_Wanderer | If you could choose rich or famous, but not both, which would you go for? |
| 21:56.59 | jsmith | Rich and anonymous, any day |
| 21:58.28 | Lone_Wanderer | Hmm. That does seem like the obvious choice. |
| 21:58.48 | Lone_Wanderer | I need to add something to the famous part to make it more attractive, or the rich part to make it less attractive. |
| 21:59.34 | jsmith | Well, famous without rich is just bad. |
| 21:59.49 | Lone_Wanderer | I hurt myself today / To see if I still feel / I focus on the pain / The only thing that's real. |
| 21:59.59 | Lone_Wanderer | I guess so. |
| 22:00.11 | Lone_Wanderer | The American Idol people don't seem to mind. |
| 22:02.48 | mgeary | famous without rich is like Carrot Top |
| 22:02.53 | mgeary | eeewwww |
| 22:02.58 | Lone_Wanderer | Well, you could be good famous. |
| 22:03.05 | mgeary | well, okay |
| 22:04.03 | Lone_Wanderer | like Ghandi |
| 22:07.17 | jsmith | Or infamous... |
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| 22:10.58 | mgeary | like that slacker dude that was mooching off of OJ, what was his name? |
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| 22:24.07 | _psychic_ | mgeary: Johnnie Cochran? ;) |
| 22:24.15 | beandog | when does that fantastic four movie come out |
| 22:24.32 | beandog | I really hope they dont screw it up |
| 22:24.39 | _psychic_ | they screwed up the first one |
| 22:24.46 | beandog | I know. |
| 22:24.49 | beandog | It was horrible. |
| 22:24.55 | beandog | But still, the Silver Surfer is cool. |
| 22:25.10 | _psychic_ | not if he's in a movie that sucks |
| 22:25.15 | beandog | hmm. |
| 22:25.21 | _psychic_ | even if there are hot actresses that can't act |
| 22:25.22 | beandog | Spiderman 3 is gonna suck |
| 22:25.26 | _psychic_ | or really cool visual effects |
| 22:25.40 | beandog | heh |
| 22:26.04 | beandog | Transformers is gonna be nothing but eye-candy too |
| 22:26.08 | beandog | but Im sure Ill go see that |
| 22:26.22 | beandog | I just hope its an inch above Armageddon |
| 22:26.52 | _psychic_ | I can't tell if Transformers will have plot or not |
| 22:26.55 | _psychic_ | I hope it does |
| 22:27.03 | beandog | not with M. Bay directing it |
| 22:27.06 | _psychic_ | Spiderman has been pretty good with plot (within the Genre) |
| 22:27.30 | beandog | I think its going to be stretched too thin with all the characters in this one |
| 22:27.44 | beandog | #1 was okay, #2 *really* sucked |
| 22:27.47 | beandog | so Im not hoping for much |
| 22:28.50 | beandog | hmm, he directed The Island (blech) |
| 22:28.59 | beandog | and Pearl Harbor (bleh) as well |
| 22:29.06 | beandog | poor Transformers. :C |
| 22:29.17 | beandog | it's gonna be eye-candy and a poor plot |
| 22:29.18 | _psychic_ | mmm |
| 22:29.25 | _psychic_ | I hate movies like that. |
| 22:29.29 | beandog | but he did do The Rock |
| 22:29.33 | beandog | which wasn't *that* bad. |
| 22:29.37 | _psychic_ | I want to watch a movie where I don't know what's going to happen. |
| 22:29.47 | _psychic_ | The illusionist was pretty good that way. |
| 22:29.51 | beandog | The Island was just plain horrible. |
| 22:29.53 | beandog | oh man |
| 22:29.58 | beandog | Illuisionist was a kick in the face |
| 22:30.03 | _psychic_ | no likey? |
| 22:30.07 | beandog | It had you guessing the whole time if it was all supernatural or not |
| 22:30.08 | beandog | no way |
| 22:30.16 | beandog | It was the greatest movie Ive seen in a long time |
| 22:30.20 | beandog | Nice, good, refreshing |
| 22:30.30 | _psychic_ | no way == you did like it? |
| 22:30.36 | beandog | yes |
| 22:30.38 | beandog | ++ |
| 22:30.38 | _psychic_ | ok right on |
| 22:30.48 | beandog | did you see the Prestige? |
| 22:30.52 | beandog | *that* one was weird. Had me guessing. |
| 22:30.54 | _psychic_ | don't think so |
| 22:31.01 | beandog | you might like it. |
| 22:31.27 | beandog | which reminds me, when is the new Batman movie coming |
| 22:31.36 | beandog | 2008 .. The Dark Knight |
| 22:31.37 | beandog | nice. |
| 22:31.56 | _psychic_ | begins was good |
| 22:32.41 | beandog | man |
| 22:32.42 | beandog | I love that movie. |
| 22:38.28 | _psychic_ | whats her face almost ruins it |
| 22:38.36 | _psychic_ | Kat/Kate whatever |
| 22:39.05 | beandog | Katie Holmes? |
| 22:39.06 | beandog | or something |
| 22:39.16 | beandog | I thought she was okay |
| 22:40.17 | _psychic_ | I guess I'm tired of models who think they are actresses |
| 22:40.26 | _psychic_ | the chick in Hitch, for example |
| 22:40.29 | _psychic_ | *sucked* |
| 22:40.39 | _psychic_ | Paltrow is pretty good though |
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| 22:48.03 | Lone_Wanderer | Which chick? The one that played Allegra Cole? |
| 22:50.50 | Lone_Wanderer | Is there any good way to inspect a JavaScript object? |
| 22:51.24 | mgeary | for (i in object) alert(object[i] = i) |
| 22:51.30 | mgeary | or rather |
| 22:51.38 | mgeary | for (i in object) alert(i = object[i]) |
| 22:51.55 | Lone_Wanderer | cool, thanks |
| 22:52.43 | _psychic_ | Lone_Wanderer: yes |
| 22:52.45 | _psychic_ | Lone_Wanderer: no |
| 22:52.57 | Lone_Wanderer | Eh? |
| 22:53.03 | _psychic_ | Lone_Wanderer: The Allegra chick was really good, I'm talking about the other one |
| 22:53.06 | _psychic_ | Sarah? |
| 22:53.11 | Lone_Wanderer | Which other one? |
| 22:53.16 | _psychic_ | The latino chick Will Smith gets it going with |
| 22:53.20 | _psychic_ | that can't act |
| 22:53.24 | Lone_Wanderer | By which I mean, there *was* another one? |
| 22:53.30 | _psychic_ | ^^ |
| 22:53.32 | Lone_Wanderer | Oh. |
| 22:53.43 | Lone_Wanderer | Right, her. I don't remember anything about her. |
| 22:53.51 | _psychic_ | Its best that way. |
| 22:54.00 | mgeary | she's pretty obnoxious |
| 22:54.11 | Lone_Wanderer | I seem to recall her character being obnoxious. |
| 22:54.23 | Lone_Wanderer | The kind of girl that I would have walked away from almost immediately. |
| 22:54.24 | _psychic_ | She has a completely tailored outfit every freaking scene too. Its like the movie is her own personal fashion show. |
| 22:54.35 | mgeary | but i love that line about "The Butcher of <whatever>"-- "I thought her uncle was in the meat business" |
| 22:54.42 | Lone_Wanderer | ahhhh, yes |
| 22:55.09 | Lone_Wanderer | I don't really relate to that being such a big deal. My uncle is in the porn business, and I don't let it get to me. |
| 22:55.25 | _psychic_ | d'oh |
| 22:55.35 | _psychic_ | porn producer? |
| 22:55.49 | Lone_Wanderer | He's a photographer. |
| 22:55.52 | Lone_Wanderer | Beyond that I don't know. |
| 22:56.16 | _psychic_ | Not too curious, eh? ;;) |
| 22:56.21 | _psychic_ | I wouldn't be either. |
| 22:56.21 | Lone_Wanderer | My aunt divorced him a while ago, so I guess he's not really my uncle any more. |
| 22:56.30 | _psychic_ | Except how he deals with it. |
| 22:56.52 | _psychic_ | It's like being a WWF wrestler photographer, except that its worse because of the taboo of it being sexual. |
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| 23:01.02 | Lone_Wanderer | Oops. I just ate nearly an entire box of wheat thins. |
| 23:01.33 | Lone_Wanderer | There goes my plan to lose weight. Oh well. |
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