IRC log for #uphpu on 20070426

00:00.52mindjujuKOTOR MMO is coming!!!!!!
00:01.00mindjujuthebigdog you around?
00:01.06thebigdogy
00:01.10mindjujuhttp://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=162675
00:01.14mindjujuread that
00:01.44thebigdogthat requires ms software
00:01.57mindjujudoesn't WoW require MS software?
00:02.11thebigdogto view the page it requires it installed
00:02.30mindjujuoh, the web page, my bad
00:02.39thebigdogyeah is there another one
00:02.47thebigdogoh wait
00:02.50mindjujuBioWare has formed a new online team to create a Star Wars: Knight of the Old  Republic massively multiplayer online game, EGM reports.
00:02.56mindjujuthat's what it says
00:03.18thebigdogk
00:03.36mindjujuwell, i thought it was cool
00:03.43thebigdoglol
00:04.09thebigdogiim not sure i would play another online game
00:04.16thebigdogi think one is enough for me
00:04.20mindjujuyeah, but it is KOTOR
00:04.24thebigdogi have looked at faction wars though
00:04.26mindjujuyou don't need another
00:04.43mindjujuK - O - T - O - R
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02:35.09beandoghmm
02:35.13beandogI wanna go see tmnt
02:35.22beandogdo I want to be up until midnight though
02:36.08mindjujuhey, if you go, let me know if it is any good
02:36.11mindjujui've wanted to go see that
02:36.25beandogman I remember waiting for the original to come out back int he day
02:36.26beandoggood times.
02:36.31mindjujuyeah
02:36.41mindjujuDonatello was my high school debate symbol
02:36.46beandogIm not really in the mood to pay $8 though
02:36.56mindjujuat least, i put it on the legal briefs i'd write
02:37.00beandogheh
02:37.01beandogthats great
02:37.16beandogI used to run a TMNT fan club on Prodigy
02:37.20beandogback when it was dial-up
02:37.37mindjujunice
02:37.38mindjujui still have my donatello action figure, actually
02:37.38beandogthose were the days
02:37.38mindjujuit's in my office
02:37.49mindjujudon't get me wrong, don't play with it or anything
02:37.56mindjujumore of a momento
02:38.03beandogI had a stuffed Michaelangelo for the longest time
02:38.11beandogI won it at an arcade
02:38.30mindjujumichaelangelo always had the best lines in the cartoon
02:38.41beandogyah
02:38.42beandoghe was the best
02:39.17mindjujui'd go if i had time 8 bucks ain't too bad
02:40.46mindjujubeandog, you work with macnewbold, right?
02:41.46beandogyah
02:41.59beandogI might go see redline instead
02:42.23mindjujuwhen did code greene roll out that flash stuff, it's new isn't it?
02:42.52beandoguh, what flash stuff
02:42.54beandogbeats me
02:42.59beandog:)
02:43.23mindjujuwell, just didn't remember the logo being in flash, nor some flash stuff that appears on the codegreene web page
02:43.32mindjujuwas looking for some design ideas and saw it
02:45.03beandogyah I dunno
02:45.25beandogalright
02:45.27beandogredline it is
02:45.29beandoglates, mindjuju
02:45.33mindjujulaters
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03:42.07mindjujuanybody have a good example of pathing?
03:42.46Utah_Dave~path mindjuju
03:43.51mindjujupathing on a website is when you take the most common tasks that a potential client comes to your site for, and puts "paths" for them to follow to get what they need
03:44.11mindjujupaths that are easy to see, front and center on the page
03:44.42mindjujuso for example, on page http://www.37signals.com/
03:44.59mindjujuthose 4 icons in the tan section of the page would be the four paths
03:46.00mindjujuyou've gone to this website because you need to cause more order in .... 1.  Your team or 2. your business or 3 remote teams or 4 your life
03:53.57mindjujuoh well, must have put ya to sleep with the explaination
03:57.11Utah_Daveno, sorry. I'm helping a buddy with a mysql query in another channel
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14:43.41thebigdogLone_Wanderer i got humar this morning...i did not know the respawn rate was so low
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15:14.08Lone_Wandererthebigdog: yeah, I got lucky when I was about the right level.  I hadn't even heard of him and my friend said "Hey Humar is up, come tame him quick!!"
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15:38.06mindjuju~yow
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16:02.34thebigdogi waited like 2 hrs last night and fell asleep waiting for him
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16:38.46beandog~melvin PoeticIntensity
16:38.48jbotACTION pulls PoeticIntensity underwear up to the ceiling...and smiles
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16:39.02timinatormornin' ladies
16:40.06timinatorguess what! We had a baby boy a week ago.
16:40.17beandogI never would have guessed that
16:40.19timinator7lbs, 19" long
16:40.20beandogcongrats, timinator :D
16:40.24timinatorthanks
16:40.27wpsawesome… congratulations
16:40.28beandogpiccies?
16:40.42Utah_Davecongratulations, timinator!
16:40.43timinatorhmmm... I think that's Ares
16:40.59timinatorthanks.
16:41.14timinatorgive me a sec, I'll post a pic
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16:44.34timinatorhttp://files.timothyhumphrey.com/IMG_0401.JPG
16:44.58timinatorhmm... that's huge.
16:45.01timinatorlet me resize
16:45.35mgearyawwwww
16:45.43mgearyhairy lil' sucker
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16:46.10timinatorfor sure
16:46.39timinatorthere... refresh
16:47.53beandogwoo hoo
16:47.55timinatorand here's all my babies together:  http://files.timothyhumphrey.com/IMG_0416.JPG
16:47.56beandogtiminator II
16:48.10timinatorit is... he's a junior
16:48.20beandogcongrats man
16:48.21beandog:D
16:48.24timinatorthanks
16:48.28mgearyawesome
16:48.39mgearywelcome to 3-kidsville
16:48.43mgearyit's a hectic place :)
16:48.51timinatorsure is
16:48.52timinatordang
16:49.00timinator2 was fine
16:49.05mgearyyep
16:49.32timinatornow it's a 2+ hour ordeal to go get milk from the store
16:49.36thebigdogtiminator you kids look more like me
16:49.50timinatorwhat's that
16:50.05thebigdogyour kids look a lot like me for some reason
16:50.13beandogwoots, mplayer stable on amd64
16:50.13beandog:D
16:50.28thebigdogmplayer stable?...now that is a first
16:50.43timinator~lart thebigdog
16:50.43jbothits thebigdog with an anvil and laughs with a contralto voice ... Haha Ha HA Ha
16:50.44beandogyah I just cleaned it all up
16:50.53beandogripped out the old ones, fixed the naming scheme
16:50.56beandogstabled the new one
16:50.58beandogwootsie woo.
16:51.03beandogIm glad that's done
16:51.08beandogI think Im going to celebrate by eating a donut.
16:51.25thebigdog~give beandog a donut
16:51.28jbotACTION gives a donut to beandog
17:10.37timinatork, I'm out... later kids
17:14.08PoeticIntensitywoot, beandog
17:14.10PoeticIntensitygood jorb.
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18:01.54thebigdogtoday is a crappy day
18:02.13jsmiththebigdog: I'm sorry... why?
18:02.28thebigdogi lost some more of my music and i dont know where it is
18:02.35thebigdog~lart harddrives
18:02.36jbotcuts off harddrives's head with a halberd that could have been a little bit sharper
18:03.11thebigdogsucks when you go to listen to a song or album and all that bands music is gone
18:10.48thebigdogty
18:10.48mindjujuwhich you need, bro?
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18:14.25thebigdogi know i lost all my soundgarden
18:14.36thebigdogwhich sucks hardcore
18:14.53thebigdogmindjuju, tonight i need to make a list and then i need to find out what you need too
18:15.00thebigdogi might burn it all to dvd for you
18:15.11thebigdogmy upload speed sucks
18:15.25thebigdogi need to colo my own box at xmission
18:16.13thebigdogwps just needs to get me some more work :)
18:17.35wpsworking on that
18:17.42wpsclients are flaky
18:17.51thebigdogoh man...i hear you on that one
18:18.12wpsI finally got paid (one year later) on that gig that I got stiffed on though!
18:18.16wpscan you believe that!
18:18.18wpsone year later!
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18:18.40thebigdogreally, they paid you...that is a miracle...i really mean that too
18:18.41mgearyat least you got paid
18:18.55thebigdogi would love to get paid for some past work i did
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18:19.32wpswith that taken care of, I only have one outstanding invoice for the six years or so that I have done consulting
18:21.32thebigdogthat is not too bad
18:36.58mindjujuman, this stuff is good.  I captured some tunes from di.fm by a DJ called Hybrid
18:37.14mindjujui'm goign to have to buy the album on this one
18:40.22burninanyone know of a very basic PHP class that abstracts mysql and postgresql and is GPLed?
18:40.38jsmithI like adodb
18:40.46jsmithSome people prefer the pear-db stuff
18:41.15jsmithTry adodb.sf.net
18:41.30burninyeah, adodb is pretty cool, but I want something simpler, something you can easily and quickly understand by looking at the class code.
18:41.40burninalthough I have to admit I haven't looked at the adodb code :)
18:43.00bradymi'm with jsmith, big fan of adodb
18:43.01jsmithThere's no reason to look at the code.
18:43.02jsmithIt just works
18:44.27burninwhen learning or teaching it helps to have working code that is also easy to look at and understand the hows and whys.
18:51.16mindjujuhey, thebigdog, if I get mp3s sampled at 320, is that better than Ogg ?
18:51.50mindjujucourse though, i could also do Ogg at that same sample rate
18:52.00mindjujucan Ogg really be all that better than mp3?
18:52.10burninlicensing is better
18:52.45mindjujuon ogg?
18:52.51burninyes
18:53.17jsmithAnd, supposedly, *for the same bit rate*, ogg sounds better
18:54.29mindjujuhmmm
18:59.13mindjujuwell, ogg better be as good as thebigdog says it is, or else!
19:00.23mindjujuheh
19:24.27PoeticIntensityogg is better than mp3, aurally.
19:24.32PoeticIntensitybit-rate for bit-rate.
19:25.07jsmithPoeticIntensity: Thanks for backing me up... I don't think mindjuju was believing me
19:25.07PoeticIntensityI've got all my CDs ripped (as well as all my downloaded music) in ogg format.
19:25.38PoeticIntensityI have a degree in Multimedia Communication Technology - with an empahsis in audio digital recording / processing / compression.
19:25.50PoeticIntensityogg is much better than mp3.
19:26.21PoeticIntensityaac is just about on par with ogg, but licensing for aac (mp4) is kinda crazy.
19:27.05PoeticIntensityall of my oggs are compressed at an audio-level of 6 (which, for an audiophile, you'd think is quite low.... but it's the best audio-quality-to-filesize ratio I found.
19:27.22PoeticIntensityand... my ears can't tell any difference between an ogg at quality level 6 and a CD.
19:27.30PoeticIntensityso.... 6 it is. :)
19:27.37PoeticIntensityI've got about 6000 songs in ogg format.
19:27.59PoeticIntensityand the iaudio X5 (by cowonamerica) can play oggs just fine.... complete with metadata display.
19:28.11PoeticIntensityand ... while I'm on my soapbox, DOWN WITH IPODS!!!
19:28.17PoeticIntensityand DRM, for that matter.
19:28.36PoeticIntensity(which is the technology of Satan himself, for all who are currently pondering that point)
19:29.38PoeticIntensitynow.... back to work, everyone.
19:29.54PoeticIntensityheyah!, heyah! (sound of whip cracking)
19:30.03PoeticIntensitywhat phone do you have, jsmith ?
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19:31.40jsmithPoeticIntensity: Nokie E series
19:35.33PoeticIntensityhttp://www.cowonamerica.com/products/iaudio/x5/
19:35.36PoeticIntensitythere's the shiz.
19:35.38PoeticIntensity:)
19:36.11PoeticIntensityUse Mac or Linux? No problem!! iAUDIO X5 is available to be used on Mac or Linux OS.
19:36.17PoeticIntensitystraight from the spec page.
19:36.20PoeticIntensityw00t!
19:38.32thebigdogmindjuju, ogg is better
19:41.47PoeticIntensity~lart mindjuju
19:41.47jbotruns at mindjuju with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut
19:48.52wpsone of the problems with OGG is it's name
19:48.53wpsseriously
19:48.59wpsit's not sexy
19:49.38thebigdogogg is so sexy
19:49.45thebigdog~give wps the ogg face
19:49.47jbotACTION gives the ogg face to wps
19:49.54wpstrying to get the general public to buy in and adopt a format is difficult when the branding is crap
19:50.08wpskids won't want to buy an "OGG player"
19:50.29RitterOgg > MP3 in terms of sexiness
19:50.47thebigdogno doubt
19:50.55thebigdogflac is even better
19:50.59thebigdogit so sinful
19:51.06wpseven if the format is superior, people won't get it
19:51.13thebigdogPoeticIntensity that iaudio is nice
19:51.15wpsnothing wrong with the technology… just needs a different name
19:51.23thebigdogvorbis rocks
19:51.38wpsnow "vorbis" sounds a little better
19:51.47Ritter:)
19:52.19thebigdogit goes like this opp > ogg > mp3
19:55.31PoeticIntensityopp?
19:55.45PoeticIntensity~wiki opp
19:55.48thebigdogPoeticIntensity im down with opp
19:55.55thebigdogwps is down with opp
19:55.56PoeticIntensitywhat the heck is opp?
19:56.00thebigdogmindjuju is down with opp
19:56.23PoeticIntensitywow.
19:56.31PoeticIntensityis that the "opp" to which you refer?
19:56.39thebigdognaughty by nature
19:56.43thebigdogyeah
19:56.58thebigdogPoeticIntensity dont you remember that song? or you too young
19:57.00PoeticIntensityI had all my collection encoded in flac at one point in time.
19:57.02thebigdogmindjuju where you at
19:57.08PoeticIntensitythebigdog, sorry... I Don't remember.
19:57.17thebigdogim doing ogg 320 vbit
19:58.04PoeticIntensityI sat down with my Grado SR225's one day and spent a couple of hours comparing ogg q6 to flac, and came to the conclusion that I *really* cannot tell the difference.
19:58.26thebigdognot unless you have the killer sound system for it
19:58.34PoeticIntensityand the filesize was so horrendously outproportioned, I converted my entire collection to oggs.
19:58.35thebigdogand i mean really expensive
19:58.51PoeticIntensityI've got an okay sound system.
19:59.09PoeticIntensityI know what you're referring to, though... and quite frankly, I don't see myself ever getting that high into fidelity.
19:59.26thebigdogyeah...but creating ogg from flac is where it is at
19:59.35PoeticIntensitydude.... you're not kidding.
19:59.42thebigdogi applaud bands that you can download flac files from
19:59.47PoeticIntensityif you wanna store CD-quality, you're killing yourself if you store the wav files.
19:59.50PoeticIntensityflac is where it's at.
19:59.54thebigdogthen convert to ogg...you get some really nice sounds
19:59.59PoeticIntensityyup.
20:00.04PoeticIntensityjust like converting straight from the CD.
20:00.26PoeticIntensityflac is considered to be "lossless" compression.
20:00.27RitterCD -> flac -> Ogg ?
20:00.34PoeticIntensity(for those of you who don't already know it)
20:00.36Ritterwhy bother going to flac?
20:00.41PoeticIntensityRitter, that is pointless to me.
20:00.47Ritterflac = free loseless audio codec
20:00.48PoeticIntensityif you have the CD, just go straight to ogg.
20:00.52Ritterlossless*
20:00.57PoeticIntensityyup.
20:01.04thebigdogsome bands are offering the flac for download
20:01.09thebigdogthat is the only time i see it
20:01.10PoeticIntensityand that's just sweet.
20:01.27PoeticIntensityallofmp3 (don't wanna get into any controversy here) offers flacs for all their stuff.
20:01.29thebigdogwhich if they did that i would be more apt to buy the stuff online
20:01.46thebigdogyeah i love those guys...however, i would do ogg from them before flac
20:01.50PoeticIntensitythat's why I love em'.... and I use em'... even though they're in Russia and are the point of quite a controversy now.
20:01.50beandogI rip all my stuff to MP2
20:01.53beandogIts the only true codec.
20:01.55beandogjerks.
20:02.03thebigdog~whaleslap beandog
20:02.05jbotACTION beats beandog upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh
20:02.12PoeticIntensitythank you, thebigdog
20:02.18PoeticIntensity~tunafart beandog
20:02.19jbotACTION eats a week-old tuna sandwich with relish and walks over to beandog, leg raised, to let 'em rip.
20:02.23thebigdognice
20:02.24beandogeeeeeeeeeek!
20:02.37thebigdogthe only issue i have with ogg is that sometimes the headers get corrupt
20:02.40PoeticIntensityyou just got a whaleslappin' following by a tunafart!
20:02.44PoeticIntensitydoesn't get much worse than that.
20:02.52PoeticIntensitythebigdog, corrupt?
20:02.53thebigdog~fart beandog
20:02.55jbotACTION farts in beandog's general direction
20:02.59thebigdogyeah bit corruption
20:03.01PoeticIntensityI've never had that happen.
20:03.05PoeticIntensity....?
20:03.14PoeticIntensitydo you use oggenc?
20:03.15thebigdogit is rare...but i have some albums that have it
20:03.18thebigdogyeah
20:03.20PoeticIntensityinteresting.
20:03.27PoeticIntensitywhat are the symptoms?
20:03.29PoeticIntensityjust doesn't work?
20:03.36PoeticIntensitygarbled metadata?
20:03.42thebigdogit works...but ill show you the warning message
20:03.46PoeticIntensityk
20:03.49PoeticIntensityI'd appreciate it.
20:03.49thebigdogsome apps like winamp cannot play them
20:03.54thebigdogogg123 can though
20:04.05PoeticIntensitypft.... winamp....  that's so windows.
20:04.14thebigdogyeah
20:04.23thebigdogi use vlc now though
20:04.35PoeticIntensityman....  can't tell ya how much windows sucks when ya get used to the terminal and all the wonders associated.
20:04.53PoeticIntensityI've heard good things about vlc.
20:04.58thebigdog[rhunter@rhunter] ogginfo 01-mr_tinkertrain.ogg
20:04.58thebigdogProcessing file "01-mr_tinkertrain.ogg"...
20:04.58thebigdogWarning: Hole in data found at approximate offset 4500 bytes. Corrupted ogg.
20:05.09PoeticIntensitywow.
20:05.12thebigdogi think it is from the id3 tags
20:05.17PoeticIntensityand that just happens randomly?
20:05.24PoeticIntensityconverting straight from CD?
20:05.25thebigdogyeah
20:05.34PoeticIntensityweird.
20:05.46beandogwhat do you use to rip + encode
20:05.46PoeticIntensityI'm glad I've never seen it before.
20:05.48thebigdogi ripped no more tears and they are all like that...but could be from the id3 tags i updated
20:05.50PoeticIntensitygrip.
20:05.54beandognot you.
20:05.55thebigdogsame here
20:05.59beandogthebigdog: Hmm.
20:06.05PoeticIntensitygrip is the man.
20:06.09thebigdogbut i go back with easytag and fix some of the id3 tags
20:06.10PoeticIntensityand the shiz.
20:06.12beandogthebigdog: what arch
20:06.24thebigdogx86
20:06.32PoeticIntensityI use sparc.
20:06.43PoeticIntensitycombined with the new 256bit bus.
20:06.57beandogthebigdog: hmm.
20:07.01beandogdid it happen recently?
20:07.15PoeticIntensitywith the new octo-plexed 16 jiggagig connection.
20:07.23thebigdogno it has been awhile...i just need to go back and redo them all
20:07.29beandogok
20:08.17thebigdogbut i dont think it happend durning the rip + encode
20:08.22thebigdogbut when i modified the id3 tags
20:08.26PoeticIntensitythebigdog, the iaudio X5 is a beautiful device.  If you've been considering to get an audio player - I'd highly recommend it.
20:08.33Ritterthebigdog: thats probably true
20:08.39thebigdogi got an ipod
20:08.43PoeticIntensity:-C
20:08.46Ritteripod > *
20:08.48thebigdogi know the tag support in ogg is a little different
20:08.48PoeticIntensityno oggs there, pal.
20:08.55thebigdogyeah it sucks
20:09.07Ritterlol, but it plays videos
20:09.11thebigdogbut i like watching movies on my pod
20:09.11beandogwell
20:09.13beandogon the ipod?
20:09.15beandogjust load rockbox
20:09.16beandog:D
20:09.19thebigdogRitter, exactlly
20:09.28Ritteryeah, exactly .. first thing I did was rip boondock saints to my ipod
20:09.37PoeticIntensitythe X5 plays videos as well, my friends.
20:09.40thebigdogoh a killer show
20:09.44beandoghttp://www.rockbox.org/
20:09.48thebigdogi love when they shoot the cat
20:09.52Ritterlol
20:09.54thebigdogbeandog, ty ill check itout
20:10.39thebigdogi have a couple on there now...recently put some southpark on there
20:11.00thebigdogi ripped some firefly and put that on there too...what a great series
20:11.31thebigdoganyone check out the ufc saturday?
20:11.46thebigdog~wake mindjuju
20:11.48jbotACTION throws a barrel-full of ice water on mindjuju and shouts "GOOD MORNING!!!!"
20:11.56thebigdogRitter where you work at?
20:12.06thebigdogand welcome to the irc channel!
20:12.10Ritterthanks
20:12.13Utah_Davehas anyone here actually used rockbox?
20:12.17RitterI don't know if I should say
20:12.28thebigdoglol...no worries if you dont want too
20:12.45thebigdogRitter are you friends with Jimmy J. and Jason C.?
20:13.08RitterJimmy yeah .. dont know Jason too well
20:13.18Ritterbut Jimmy quit wow, the bastard
20:13.19thebigdogRitter he is redbane
20:13.25Ritteryeah, I know
20:13.32thebigdogyeah...he and red got me playing
20:13.37Ritterwe've done lunch .. but I dont know him
20:13.46thebigdogso they both quit...taht is why i stopped playing...now started palying again
20:13.59thebigdogi went to one lunch back in the day
20:14.18Ritterwe had a MLP dinner not so long ago too
20:14.29thebigdogoh nice
20:14.42thebigdogi just dont know many in mlp now
20:14.48Rittera lot
20:14.59thebigdogpheirce, rex, raylan and mcphee is all
20:15.00Ritteroh, nm misread
20:15.09RitterPheirce I've known for ages
20:15.18Ritterreal life friend
20:15.22thebigdogive meet him once at lunch
20:15.24thebigdogcool
20:15.40thebigdoggood to see him as guild master though
20:15.45RitterI think I've met you at a lunch too then
20:15.49Ritteryeah
20:16.10thebigdogi guess when the wife plays too...you can play as much as he does
20:16.20Ritterhehe, sort of
20:16.31Rittershe gets bored .. and they have a few keids
20:16.34Ritterkids even
20:16.54thebigdogyeah..i dont see how he can do it
20:18.13beandogthebigdog: I think you can dual boot too
20:18.13beandogbetween the stock and the custom firmware
20:18.13thebigdogreally? that might be nice
20:18.13Utah_Davebeandog: have you actually used rockbox? I've wanted to, but I'm a little worried about bricking my ipod
20:18.14beandogUtah_Dave: no, for the same reason.
20:18.16Ritterlol
20:18.18beandogIve ... uh .. .had a history of bricking things
20:18.23beandogI know that comes as real shock to everyone
20:18.27Utah_Dave:)
20:18.31RitterI have the 80g I just bought .. I wouldnt risk it either
20:19.04Utah_DaveIt's just too much money to risk it.
20:19.04beandoghttp://img127.imageshack.us/img127/9275/20070402copiasa3.gif
20:19.05beandogthat is great
20:19.06beandog:D
20:19.18Ritteris that work safe?
20:20.10beandogyah
20:21.16thebigdogRitter what kinda programming you do
20:21.25Ritterphp goofy
20:21.44thebigdogi hate php
20:21.47Ritterfor about 9 years now (with php)
20:21.55thebigdogwow long time
20:22.07Rittersince php3 started
20:22.20RitterI almost made the php2/fi days
20:22.29thebigdogcool i started with php2 and then stopped at php5
20:22.57thebigdogi still do a lot of consulting in php...but that is not my day job
20:22.59Ritterheh, I like php5 a lot better than previous versions
20:23.18thebigdogits a lot better for sure
20:25.26Ritterhowever, I started to do some flash/actionscipt coding and was rather impressed with it
20:25.47thebigdogi think wps is into that stuff
20:26.01thebigdogi have been looking at flex2 for some stuff
20:26.53RitterI like php becuause I started with perl, hated perl .. loved what php did that I thought perl should do and left perl
20:27.43Rittermy boss plays wow .. so, the job pretty much rocks
20:28.07RitterWag/Tre/Singedseraph in MLP
20:28.34thebigdogoh your boss is wag
20:28.43Ritteryup yup
20:28.45thebigdoggreat guy...helped me out tons
20:28.54thebigdogin winterspring for a few
20:28.59Rittervery generous .. always helping the guildies
20:29.05thebigdogyeah
20:29.15Ritterhe's a great boss too
20:29.56thebigdog~lart Lone_Wanderer
20:29.56jbotkeeps mailing Lone_Wanderer free America Online CDs until he drowns
20:30.10thebigdogman i hate modifing dbs
20:30.26Lone_Wanderereh? what?
20:30.42thebigdogget back to work Lone_Wanderer
20:30.47Lone_Wandererokay
21:12.58wpsrarrr!
21:12.59wpshttp://www.doba.com/site/images.promos/458248.jpg
21:13.16wpsthat pic makes me laugh
21:13.20wpsshe looks like a zombie
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21:19.47thebigdogzombie child
21:20.42mindjujui'm back
21:20.56beandogseriously
21:21.10mindjujuone day a week, i take my wife out for a 2 hour lunch, and that was today
21:21.10thebigdog~really
21:21.21jbotREALLY!
21:25.53wpsgood for your, mindjuju
21:26.07PoeticIntensity~rlart
21:26.09jbotfarts in licyeus's general direction
21:26.22PoeticIntensityhey beandog, wanna race?
21:26.35PoeticIntensityyou got some mad drivin' skillz.
21:26.48PoeticIntensityand I'm bored outta my ...... socks.
21:28.12beandogPoeticIntensity: yah, public humiliation is great for boredom
21:29.58PoeticIntensityyou gonna humiliate me?
21:30.00PoeticIntensityhow rude!
21:30.09PoeticIntensity;-)
21:31.28beandogPoeticIntensity: you gotta learn that its okay to go over 50
21:31.28beandog:D
21:31.29beandogalthough I hear over double the speed limit is fun too
21:31.43beandogon bangerter
21:31.44beandogat night.
21:31.46beandogso I've heard.
21:32.05beandognot that Id know anything about that.
21:32.16beandog~drive PoeticIntensity
21:32.24jbotACTION jumps behind the wheel of a specially designed limo & chauffeurs PoeticIntensity anywhere he/she needs to go, while PoeticIntensity sits in the back playing bzflag
21:32.36beandogLMAO
21:45.10mgeary~bzflag
21:45.18jbotmethinks bzflag is a 3D internet multiplayer multiplatform (win32, linux, mac, etc) opensource opengl Battlezone capture the flag game of the same name that you must try at http://BZFlag.org/ or a continual development project with periodic gaming interuptions. See also TimRiker
21:45.51mindjujuWow, that's funny
21:45.51mindjujuhttp://www.metro.co.uk/news/article.html?in_article_id=46730&in_page_id=34
21:46.05mindjujuhow could a person confuse a lamb with a poodle?
21:48.13wpsthey deserved to be conned if they can't tell the difference
22:08.12PoeticIntensityPoodles are famously used by the rich and glamourous
22:08.22PoeticIntensityhow in the heck can a Poodle be "famously used"?
22:08.30PoeticIntensityused in a famous nature?
22:08.51PoeticIntensitythis whole article reeks of stupidity.
22:24.53beandoghuzzah!
22:24.56beandoguphpu is finally on gmane
22:24.57beandog!
22:24.57beandog:D
22:25.11beandognow I can read it in knode
22:25.12beandogwoots.
22:28.52thebigdogreally...not sure that is exciting to me
22:29.25thebigdogbeandog you must like kde?
22:29.36beandogsure
22:29.37beandogits okay
22:29.43beandogIve got a mixed environment.
22:30.11beandogin this case, I think pan sucks rocks.
22:30.24beandogknode is sexilicous
22:32.27beandogthebigdog: Im just excited becasue its easier to follow on nntp than email
22:32.40thebigdogyeah
22:32.52thebigdogdoesnt thunderbird have a new reader
22:32.59beandogI dunno, I never use it
22:33.09thebigdogi think it does
22:34.11thebigdogi like irc better :)
22:34.26mgearyyeah
22:34.33mgearyi'm sick of email
22:34.39beandogme too
22:35.10thebigdogthe if i miss it ...i miss it
22:35.17beandogoh wow, vanilla-sources 2.4 works on amd64 now?
22:35.18beandogthats cool.
22:35.39thebigdogbeandog, are you on an amd64?
22:35.41beandogseems a little odd to add that
22:35.42beandogyah
22:35.46thebigdogoh
22:35.56thebigdogi guess that explains a lot ot me then
22:35.59beandogIm in the herd, too
22:36.09beandogjust stabled 2.6.20 gentoo-sources today, woots
22:36.10beandog:D
22:36.22beandogivtv is next
22:40.22beandoghttp://beta.mormon.org/
22:40.24beandogintresting.
22:40.35wpsthe font is really tiny
22:40.45wpsand that's saying something coming from a designer who loves small fonts
22:47.39mindjujuoptikal , you around?
22:48.18mindjujuLone_Wanderer , you around?
22:50.06beandogI think he left
22:50.32mindjujubummer, was going to let him sample some tunes, that are pretty stunning
22:51.19mindjujutechno with some orchestration and with a perfect sprinkling of sound bytes, it's pretty tight
22:57.15beandogPoeticIntensity might like it
22:57.21beandoghe has weird tastes in music
22:57.42mindjujuPoeticIntensity, do you like techno
23:00.36PoeticIntensityI love trance.
23:00.42PoeticIntensityif techno is trance, I love it.
23:00.53PoeticIntensityI interpret techno as being a bit faster and harsher than trance, though.
23:00.59PoeticIntensity~kick mindjuju
23:01.07jbotACTION kicks mindjuju
23:01.59mindjujuAFAIK techno is the genre, trance is a type of techno
23:02.05PoeticIntensityI can dig that.
23:02.08PoeticIntensitywhere are the tunes?
23:02.17mindjujuwhere you have: trace, breaks, goa-psy, hiNRG
23:02.18mindjujuetc
23:02.20PoeticIntensityalthough I have no idea how I'm gonna listen to em'.
23:02.37PoeticIntensitymy compy doesn't have a sound card.
23:02.39PoeticIntensity:-|
23:02.59PoeticIntensitydude... you have no idea.
23:03.07PoeticIntensityour company is *weird* when it comes to thinking through IT issues.
23:03.22PoeticIntensityspending money where it's not necessary and being tight in areas that don't make sense.
23:03.30PoeticIntensityit's crazy.
23:03.33mindjujuthat's nuts
23:03.45mindjujucourse though, i have a compy that does NOTHING but play and store my music
23:03.53mindjujumy personal compy, that is
23:04.07PoeticIntensityyeah... I brought my laptop.
23:04.15PoeticIntensitybut.... can't connect it (legally) to the network.
23:04.20PoeticIntensity*sigh*
23:04.22mindjujuoh
23:04.28mindjujudo you have a cd burner?
23:04.33mindjujuand nero?
23:04.59PoeticIntensitynope.
23:05.07PoeticIntensitymy laptop does... not my work one.
23:05.16PoeticIntensityand no.... I don't do windows.
23:05.19mindjujudo you have broadband at home?
23:05.21PoeticIntensityK3B works great.
23:05.21PoeticIntensity:)
23:05.24PoeticIntensityyup.
23:05.30PoeticIntensityif ya gimme a link, I can listen to it at home.
23:05.33mindjujuk, i'll have a link for you here in a few minutes
23:05.34mindjujuyup
23:05.39PoeticIntensitywoo hoo!
23:06.04mindjujudude, i was starting to get bored of breaks and scared i wouldn't find anything in techno to satisfy, but this stuff is awesome
23:06.08mgearyPoeticIntensity: you don't do windows? but your work machine is Windows, no?
23:06.17PoeticIntensityit isn't.
23:06.20PoeticIntensityI work on Linux.
23:06.22PoeticIntensityplay on Linux.
23:06.24PoeticIntensityeat on Linux.
23:06.28PoeticIntensitysleep on...... a bed.
23:06.28mgearydude. get a Mac
23:06.29mgeary;)
23:06.31PoeticIntensityLOL
23:08.16PoeticIntensityMacs suck.
23:08.25PoeticIntensityzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
23:08.34PoeticIntensityI better go home.
23:09.00beandogwhy
23:09.37PoeticIntensityI REGRET NOTHING!
23:09.54mindjujutoo funny
23:10.19beandog:)
23:10.21beandoghe's a nerd.
23:10.38Utah_Davewoohoo. I got PAF running in linux under wine  
23:10.48Utah_DaveI can finally get my mom off windows
23:11.02mindjujuPAF?  Like paf paf PAF?  like personal Ancestroal File?
23:11.23mindjujuseems like i was always supporting PAF in Houston, even though I'd never personally used it
23:11.25beandoganyone ever used gramps?
23:11.36mindjujunever heard of gramps
23:11.41beandogbuh!
23:11.45mindjujuis it like Grampers?
23:11.46Utah_Davemindjuju: yeah Personal Ancestral File
23:11.50Utah_DaveYeah, I've used gramps
23:11.55beandoggramps = genealogy tool for linux
23:12.13Utah_Daveit's great. but I don't think it exports for Temple Ready
23:12.18thebigdogyeah i have used it
23:12.33Utah_DaveThe funny thing is that it defaulted to some arabic font.
23:12.52Utah_DaveI had to blindly make my way through the preferences and change it to an English font.
23:13.02Utah_DaveI couldn't read anything
23:13.25mindjujutoo funny
23:14.47mindjujucourse though, now that you've said /-\R/-\BIC in an IRC channel, you'll prolly have an FBI file and somebody do a background check
23:15.05Utah_DaveI'm sick of troubleshooting my parents' windows box and have been wanting to get them on ubuntu or something
23:15.35Utah_Davebut my mom uses PAF a ton.
23:15.37beandogjust start "accidentally" losing pictures of their grandkids
23:15.45mindjujuwhat version of windows do they use?
23:15.46beandogpretty soon they wont call you anymore
23:16.01Utah_Daveooh, beandog.  You go for the jugular don't you?
23:16.05beandog:)
23:16.12Utah_DaveThey're on XP now
23:16.13beandogits a win-win scenario
23:24.06mindjuju~seen dataw0lf
23:24.32jbotdataw0lf is currently on #utah #uphpu. Has said a total of 398 messages. Is idling for 1d 8h 47m 43s, last said: 'OR PAINT!ONE!'.
23:25.42mindjuju~seen timriker
23:25.53jbottimriker <n=timr@pdpc/supporter/bronze/TimRiker> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 5h 49m 48s ago, saying: 'JeffM2501: since what?'.
23:28.06Utah_Dave~seen mindjuju
23:28.12jbotmindjuju is currently on #uphpu (7h 52m 13s). Has said a total of 44 messages. Is idling for 2m 30s, last said: '~seen timriker'.
23:28.20mindjujui'm here
23:28.45mindjujui jsut did that report on dataw0lf cause i hadn't seen him in a bit, and did timriker cause wanted to ask him a bot question
23:34.39Utah_DaveI know, just being dumb
23:34.49Utah_Dave~tunafart mindjuju
23:34.51jbotACTION eats a week-old tuna sandwich with relish and walks over to mindjuju, leg raised, to let 'em rip.
23:36.56mindjujuif you need somethign to do, go here
23:36.56mindjujuhttp://www.miniclip.com/games/sewer-run/en/
23:37.09mindjujui usually do that for 15 minutes every day just to keep relaxed
23:41.02mgearyhuzzah for Shockwave
23:43.08Utah_DaveHmm, I can't find a plugin for that on Firefox on linxu
23:43.13Utah_Daves/linxu/linux
23:43.27mindjujulinux = sucx
23:43.31mindjujuoops, sux
23:43.34mindjujujk
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23:44.48Utah_Dave~melvin mindjuju
23:44.59jbotACTION pulls mindjuju underwear up to the ceiling...and smiles
23:44.59mgearyno
23:44.59mgearyno Shockwave for Linux (yet)
23:45.19Utah_DaveI guess I'll just have to go write my own Shockwave plugin myself
23:45.26Utah_Davejk
23:46.10mindjujuwell, just so you know, it's a skating game with some cool tricks and stuff
23:46.35mindjujureally simple, not a lot of button mashing
23:46.35mindjujugood for a quick game then close the browser and back to work
23:47.00Lone_Wanderermindjuju: I am now
23:47.10mgearyi like it
23:47.20mgearyand i'm *not* a sk8er dude
23:47.45mindjujuyeah, me neither
23:48.15Lone_WandererDoes anyone here have Microsoft's support number available?
23:48.50Utah_Dave1-800-You'reOnYourOwnSucker
23:49.16Lone_Wanderercute :p
23:49.34mindjujusupport number for what product
23:49.40Lone_WandererXP installation
23:49.41mindjujuit's different for the OS, for xbox
23:50.44mindjujuwhat xp?
23:50.50Lone_Wandererhome
23:50.52mindjujuxp xp, xp with sp1 or xp with sp2?
23:51.00Lone_Wandererxp sp2 home
23:51.07mindjujusee if this works for you
23:51.07mindjujuhttp://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?ln=en-us&x=10&y=3&prid=3219&gprid=37013
23:51.13Lone_Wandererthanks
23:51.25mindjujuand, do keep in mind, you should get 2 free support contacts withj
23:51.31Lone_Wandererperfect, thanks
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