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| 01:29.01 | wps | man I hate tag clouds |
| 01:29.03 | wps | they are so tacky |
| 01:30.26 | jsmith | Amen! |
| 01:31.04 | wps | I hate fads like that |
| 01:31.51 | wps | you want to hear something funny, jsmith? |
| 01:31.59 | jsmith | Of course! |
| 01:32.04 | wps | there is a guy (I don't know who he is) that blogged about ugaf.org |
| 01:33.30 | wps | criticizing it for being "over designed" and the type of thing that the "designer did to show off"… putting form above function… a non-intuitive interface… type too small and yellow links hard to see |
| 01:33.30 | jsmith | OK... |
| 01:33.39 | wps | …and get this!!! |
| 01:33.48 | jsmith | His website was ugly? |
| 01:33.48 | wps | the title of his post was "designing for your audience" |
| 01:33.50 | wps | ha ha ha ha |
| 01:34.04 | wps | (oh, yes, his site was hideous!) |
| 01:34.08 | wps | I am fine with the criticism |
| 01:34.23 | wps | most of his comments are true… IF you are trying to make it accessible for ALL audiences |
| 01:34.39 | wps | it's his headline (read: point) that makes him look stupid! |
| 01:34.49 | wps | "designing for your audience" |
| 01:34.58 | wps | ugaf.org is for a very specific audience |
| 01:35.02 | wps | FOR DESIGNERS! |
| 01:35.11 | jsmith | And wannabe designers like me |
| 01:35.13 | wps | for those that love small type and appreciate form above function |
| 01:35.21 | wps | I laughed so hard when I read his post |
| 01:35.47 | jsmith | That's great... |
| 01:36.04 | wps | that's one of the reasons that I enjoyed designing ugaf.org… because I didn't have any clients telling me to increase the font size… because I could make it how I wanted… and because I knew my audience would enjoy it |
| 01:36.10 | wps | anyway… just thought you'd enjoy that |
| 01:36.30 | jsmith | Definitely... |
| 01:36.40 | jsmith | ... now if I could just learn to draw |
| 01:36.51 | wps | me too on that one |
| 01:36.58 | wps | I can't sketch to save my life |
| 01:37.53 | jsmith | Well, I can't draw, I can't photograph, I can't design, I can't pick matching colors... |
| 01:38.15 | jsmith | it's amazing I can even dress myself in the mornings. |
| 01:38.24 | wps | :) |
| 01:38.48 | wps | look how big my kid is: http://shearerfam.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/park_2.jpg |
| 01:38.53 | wps | she started crawling this week |
| 01:39.06 | jsmith | Oh my goodness! |
| 01:39.09 | jsmith | Has it been that long? |
| 01:39.17 | wps | eight and a half months! |
| 01:39.19 | wps | crazy, huh |
| 01:39.26 | jsmith | http://beta.zooomr.com/photos/jsmith |
| 01:39.29 | wps | one more: http://shearerfam.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/park_1.jpg |
| 01:39.35 | jsmith | My house arrived today |
| 01:39.45 | jsmith | (but I'm in California on a business trip :-( ) |
| 01:40.09 | wps | oh, wow… it's modular? comes in pieces and assembled on site? |
| 01:40.15 | jsmith | Yeah... |
| 01:40.23 | wps | looks like you'll have a basement |
| 01:40.35 | jsmith | We gave them our floorplans, and they built it all in pieces in Pennsylvania |
| 01:40.44 | jsmith | Then they trucked it to Virginia |
| 01:40.48 | wps | crazy |
| 01:40.54 | jsmith | Tomorrow they bring in the cranes to set it on the foundation |
| 01:40.57 | jsmith | Yeah, it's gonna be nice |
| 01:41.04 | jsmith | 9 foot ceilings on both floors |
| 01:41.14 | jsmith | Big basement office with a walkout |
| 01:41.52 | wps | what's the square footage? it looks big |
| 01:42.10 | jsmith | ~1450 sq. feet per floor |
| 01:42.21 | wps | sweet |
| 01:42.31 | jsmith | Actually, I think it its slightly bigger on the last revision |
| 01:42.40 | jsmith | More like 1550... |
| 01:42.46 | wps | so how close will it be to being done when you get home? |
| 01:42.57 | jsmith | They still need to do the septic and well |
| 01:43.06 | jsmith | put in the flooring |
| 01:43.08 | jsmith | paint |
| 01:43.15 | wps | well, 3k is plenty of house… I'm only at 2k |
| 01:43.19 | jsmith | hook up the electrical to the power company |
| 01:43.32 | jsmith | hook up the generator |
| 01:43.35 | jsmith | hook up the propane tank |
| 01:43.39 | wps | woww |
| 01:43.42 | jsmith | build the porch and the deck |
| 01:43.48 | jsmith | plant grass |
| 01:43.52 | jsmith | So, I should be in by July |
| 01:43.59 | wps | :) |
| 01:44.05 | wps | you going seed or sod? |
| 01:44.11 | jsmith | Seed |
| 01:44.19 | jsmith | It won't have any problems growing in Virginia |
| 01:44.33 | jsmith | In Utah I'd go with sod... but not in VA |
| 01:44.35 | wps | I hope so… seed comes up crap here |
| 01:44.41 | jsmith | Yup |
| 01:44.47 | jsmith | Been there, done that |
| 01:45.16 | wps | did I tell you about the basketball hoop I bought for Ivana? |
| 01:45.22 | wps | for her birthday? |
| 01:50.10 | jsmith | Nope |
| 01:50.15 | wps | (she's a big baller… played in high school) |
| 01:50.26 | wps | a nearly professional hoop in the backyard |
| 01:50.30 | wps | she went nuts |
| 01:50.33 | jsmith | Awesome ;-) |
| 01:50.41 | wps | I've been saving for it for a long time secretly |
| 01:51.01 | wps | http://www.basketballstandard.com/cleaner/cleaner2.jpg |
| 01:51.12 | wps | 72" glass backboard |
| 01:53.58 | jsmith | Nice! |
| 01:54.02 | jsmith | Man, I want one like that. |
| 01:54.05 | wps | it's crazy |
| 01:54.07 | jsmith | My kids would go nuts |
| 01:54.20 | wps | much more substantial then I anticipated… than it looks in the pictures |
| 01:54.23 | wps | it's huge |
| 01:54.53 | jsmith | Well, the last thing you want is something flimsy |
| 01:55.02 | wps | yup |
| 01:55.10 | wps | I wanted something that is going to last decades |
| 02:02.19 | jsmith | That's the idea :-) |
| 02:11.57 | wps | how long will you be in California? |
| 02:12.04 | wps | I'll be there Friday :) |
| 02:17.06 | burnin | anyone have recommendations on free DNS services? |
| 02:24.25 | jsmith | wps: Until Saturday |
| 02:24.30 | jsmith | wps: You coming to San Jose? |
| 02:24.36 | jsmith | wps: If so, I'll buy you dinner. |
| 02:24.44 | jsmith | burnin: everydns.net |
| 02:25.32 | burnin | I'll check that out, looking at soa.granitecanyon.com in Colorado Springs right now. |
| 02:26.11 | burnin | oh, and thanks. :) |
| 02:29.15 | jsmith | No problem |
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| 03:46.51 | justingiboney | i know I brought this up in the mailing list, but for wordpress, is there something wrong with the default css or the default page source, or both? |
| 03:50.16 | wps | neither for a clean install |
| 03:50.20 | wps | you have done something to it |
| 03:50.36 | wps | wether hacking on the template or some HTML in one of your posts |
| 03:51.13 | justingiboney | should you not put html in posts? |
| 03:51.30 | wps | HTML is just fine in a post |
| 03:52.37 | wps | but, for example, if you have something that conflicts with the rest of the HTML (such as a tag that isn't closed), it will mess things up… that isn't something unique to WP though… that's with any page |
| 03:53.15 | wps | do you have the problems with the template if you set all of your posts to draft so that they do not appear? |
| 03:53.43 | justingiboney | I am sorry I had renamed the .css and I thought I had fixed it before I posted, but it still doesn't work in safari,widows IE, windows firefox |
| 03:54.27 | wps | did you make any other changes to the template style sheet besides renaming it? |
| 03:55.18 | justingiboney | no I had theproblem before I renamed it. I just wanted to see if the csswas the problem. It isn'tbecause in windows the page source is complete but the text on the page is not |
| 03:56.14 | wps | well, it's not the theme |
| 03:56.46 | wps | because, for example, here is the UPHPU site in the default theme: http://uphpu.org/ |
| 03:56.46 | wps | and it works in Safari |
| 03:57.43 | wps | so you haven't edited the style sheet… have you edited any of the other template files in the default template? |
| 03:57.57 | justingiboney | I have add the google ads, and the polling into the sidepanel, maybe thats what the error is.. the funny thing is that my linux firefoxsees everything great |
| 03:58.35 | wps | it must be being forgiving on something even though there is an error |
| 03:59.12 | justingiboney | i'll try taking out the polling, then the google ads. hold on |
| 04:00.19 | justingiboney | by the way, this is wade right? |
| 04:01.31 | wps | yeah |
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| 04:02.25 | justingiboney | sorry about that, my daughter turned off my computer |
| 04:02.45 | wps | :) |
| 04:02.58 | wps | mine loves to bang on the keyboard |
| 04:03.57 | justingiboney | i was going to say that the ugaf.org site doesn't look perfect in firefox on linux, not a huge issue cause I doubt there are a lot of graphic artists using linux |
| 04:04.41 | wps | mind taking a screen shot for me? |
| 04:04.59 | wps | (it looks identical in Firefox on Mac and Safari) |
| 04:05.00 | justingiboney | not at all |
| 04:07.29 | wps | it' 22 hundred hours… channel call… what are you doing right now? |
| 04:08.44 | wps | Zzzzzz… Zzzzzzz… |
| 04:09.11 | wps | jbot, go to sleep |
| 04:09.20 | jbot | ACTION falls to the floor where he's standing and goes into a deep sleep |
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| 04:12.26 | justingiboney | sorry it took awhile, here is the image http://www.forodeherbales.com/Screenshot.png |
| 04:13.04 | justingiboney | I don't remember the black bar being on the right |
| 04:13.32 | wps | ah… you're seeing that because of your low resolution |
| 04:13.47 | justingiboney | ok |
| 04:13.55 | wps | not that that is a good excuse |
| 04:13.57 | wps | I should fix it |
| 04:14.31 | wps | do you not have arial on your machine? |
| 04:14.34 | justingiboney | your sites still look better than mine |
| 04:14.44 | justingiboney | the font? |
| 04:14.50 | wps | yes |
| 04:15.52 | justingiboney | no, i haven't figured out how to install fonts |
| 04:16.52 | wps | I was just noticing how the site's font was defaulting to a serif font |
| 04:17.38 | wps | (I didn't have a backup in the style until a few minutes ago) |
| 04:18.02 | justingiboney | i didn't even notice, that's linux for you I guess... i just thought I would play around with it because I am not a windows fan |
| 04:18.56 | wps | cool |
| 04:21.49 | justingiboney | I did change on my site how many posts I wanted it to display on the first page... do you think that could be it? |
| 04:22.24 | wps | how did you make the change? within the admin, with a plug in, or by changing the code? |
| 04:23.01 | justingiboney | within admin, I changed it to 10 now, but that didn't do anything |
| 04:26.45 | justingiboney | I turned off all my plugins, but I don'tt hink that has helped either |
| 04:29.55 | wps | what is this stuff? |
| 04:29.56 | wps | meta content="text/html; charset=utf-8" http-equiv="CONTENT-TYPE" /><title /><meta content="OpenOffice.org 2.0 (Linux)" |
| 04:30.23 | wps | that's what's killing it |
| 04:30.23 | wps | http://home.wadeshearer.com/herbs.html |
| 04:31.13 | wps | meta and title tags only belong in the head |
| 04:31.25 | justingiboney | I saw that too, but I figured it was because I was browsing it |
| 04:31.46 | wps | if you remove those from your 11 April post, the page will stop crapping out during render |
| 04:31.50 | wps | what? |
| 04:33.58 | justingiboney | I think that did it |
| 04:34.15 | wps | yuo |
| 04:34.16 | wps | yup |
| 04:34.17 | justingiboney | it must have been done, whileI was copyingandpasting |
| 04:34.29 | justingiboney | thank you |
| 04:34.33 | wps | you're welcome |
| 04:34.45 | wps | I'd recommend writing your text in a plain text editor |
| 04:35.06 | wps | cut-n-pasting from a word processor always brings over gobbly-gook |
| 04:35.18 | justingiboney | ya, the only reason I didn't is because I need the accent marks |
| 04:36.11 | wps | they aren't rendering correctly though |
| 04:36.16 | wps | you have to use HTML entities |
| 04:36.30 | wps | you can't type them in a Word Processor and copy-n-paste them over |
| 04:37.03 | justingiboney | html entities are? |
| 04:37.18 | wps | see: http://anavidesign.com/temp/herbs.png |
| 04:37.37 | wps | browsers do not recognize the accent characters |
| 04:38.12 | wps | just as with em dashes, ellipses, ampersands, etc |
| 04:38.17 | justingiboney | safari doesn't your right |
| 04:38.35 | wps | instead of typing an mdash, you type "&mdash:" |
| 04:38.54 | wps | instead of typing an ellipses, you type "…" |
| 04:39.11 | wps | for a copyright symbol, it's © |
| 04:39.46 | wps | google "html entities" |
| 04:40.05 | justingiboney | i am doing it right now.. thanks |
| 04:42.25 | justingiboney | this is going to be a pain to put these accents in all the time |
| 04:43.05 | wps | yup… I think that you can avoid having to do that if you set a specific char set in the header |
| 04:43.17 | wps | I don't have much experience with alternate languages in browsers though |
| 04:43.46 | wps | look into character sets though… you'll want that if the site will always in a different language |
| 04:43.58 | justingiboney | ya I remember going to that meeting, but i don't remember much |
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| 15:51.35 | macnewbold | ~rlart |
| 15:51.40 | jbot | installs PocketPC on xilch's PDA |
| 15:51.40 | macnewbold | ~morning everyone |
| 15:52.02 | jbot | ACTION bends space and time, trapping everyone in a universe of eternal monday mornings |
| 15:52.09 | macnewbold | ~wake everyone |
| 15:52.15 | jbot | ACTION throws a barrel-full of ice water on everyone and shouts "GOOD MORNING!!!!" |
| 15:52.16 | macnewbold | okay, sleepover is over... |
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| 16:17.58 | *** topic/#UPHPU by wps -> Meeting tonight: iCal parsing |
| 16:18.55 | thebigdog | anyone here running centos? |
| 16:19.03 | wps | wish I was |
| 16:19.29 | wps | jsmith does |
| 16:19.37 | thebigdog | yeah he not on though :( |
| 16:19.44 | thebigdog | dataw0lf, you running centos? |
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| 16:38.32 | unum | so how do you all set up your database schemas |
| 16:38.39 | unum | I've just been putting everything in public |
| 16:38.47 | thebigdog | i do it like oracle |
| 16:38.56 | thebigdog | i have a user and then create a schema for that user |
| 16:39.03 | thebigdog | that is how i do it in psql |
| 16:39.33 | jsmith | I do a schema per project, so that each project can have it's own "users" table, for example. |
| 16:39.52 | thebigdog | just because of how psql sets up the search path for each user |
| 16:40.28 | unum | I've been creating a new database per project... |
| 16:40.43 | thebigdog | i sometimes remove the public because people put crap in there that does not belong |
| 16:40.49 | thebigdog | jsmith, you got a minute? |
| 16:40.53 | thebigdog | you are running centos right? |
| 16:41.24 | thebigdog | unum, i dont see a problem with that unless you have man dbs now |
| 16:41.36 | thebigdog | s/man/many |
| 16:41.56 | unum | not many |
| 16:42.18 | unum | on the project I'm working on now I think I'll only have one db |
| 16:42.21 | thebigdog | its nice to isolate that stuff if you can imho |
| 16:42.39 | thebigdog | i like the idea of multiple schemas in dbs too |
| 16:42.45 | thebigdog | that helps me out tons |
| 16:43.06 | unum | I got put in part of THE database project at my work. I'm writing a web app to handle all of scheduling foo |
| 16:43.16 | thebigdog | sometimes it is easier in plpgsql to work with schemas instead of dbs |
| 16:43.40 | unum | so it has to keep track of all of our projects |
| 16:43.48 | thebigdog | nice |
| 16:43.57 | thebigdog | ~smack jsmit |
| 16:44.09 | jbot | ACTION smacks jsmit upside the head. |
| 16:44.09 | thebigdog | ~smack jsmith |
| 16:44.11 | jbot | ACTION smacks jsmith upside the head. |
| 16:46.37 | thebigdog | unum i think that for a database type standard you can either use differnt dbs or schemas |
| 16:46.47 | thebigdog | using both might be very beneficial |
| 16:46.57 | thebigdog | for example...have each project in their own db |
| 16:47.06 | thebigdog | but then have multiple schemas for different things |
| 16:47.41 | thebigdog | the only thing i would suggest is that if you use multiple schemas that you make sure people put them in the right one |
| 16:47.53 | unum | I have certian tables that won't be changed much |
| 16:47.56 | thebigdog | or you will find public getting saturated |
| 16:47.58 | unum | and never by an end user |
| 16:48.19 | unum | so I was thinking those should go in one schema |
| 16:48.44 | unum | and the tables that constatly being changed in an other |
| 16:49.21 | thebigdog | that would be fine |
| 16:49.47 | thebigdog | and as long as your user perms are good then you would be ok |
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| 17:13.36 | Lone_Wanderer | ~brutallymurder Zend Framework |
| 17:14.44 | _psychic_ | it's not a framework. |
| 17:14.49 | _psychic_ | that's the first problem with it. |
| 17:17.23 | _psychic_ | Lone_Wanderer: have you used it much? |
| 17:17.36 | Lone_Wanderer | No but I'm about to. |
| 17:17.49 | Lone_Wanderer | It looks like it's designed in such a way that making small changes is going to be rather painful. |
| 17:17.57 | Lone_Wanderer | But that may just be my first impression. |
| 17:17.57 | _psychic_ | why are you using it then? |
| 17:18.05 | Lone_Wanderer | Modifying a site that's written in ti. |
| 17:18.07 | Lone_Wanderer | it* |
| 17:18.19 | _psychic_ | condolences. |
| 17:18.21 | Lone_Wanderer | Thanks. |
| 17:18.28 | _psychic_ | The search component is pretty cool |
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| 18:13.31 | Lone_Wanderer | Velkommen dragonleech |
| 18:13.57 | dragonleech | hi |
| 18:14.16 | Lone_Wanderer | Nein! Velkommen! |
| 18:14.50 | dragonleech | only here to listen to your frustrations on Zend Framewrork |
| 18:14.57 | Lone_Wanderer | Wij spreken hier Noor! |
| 18:15.47 | Lone_Wanderer | Ach, het kader Zend, het heeft echt een barst in mijn dijk. Spoedig moet ik mijn belemmeringen vervangen. |
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| 18:16.44 | Lone_Wanderer | Ik weet niet waarom ik Noor zei omdat ik duidelijk het Frans spreek. |
| 18:17.58 | macnewbold | fahrfehgnugen |
| 18:18.05 | Lone_Wanderer | bork! bork! bork! |
| 18:18.06 | macnewbold | kazuhnteit |
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| 18:29.15 | *** topic/#UPHPU by thebigdog -> Meeting tonight: iCal parsing | UPHPU |
| 18:38.08 | thebigdog | jsmith, you busy? |
| 18:38.24 | jsmith | thebigdog: I've got a couple of minutes while my students work on a lab |
| 18:38.26 | jsmith | What's up |
| 18:38.38 | thebigdog | what version of centos you running? 4.4? |
| 18:39.43 | jsmith | 5.0 |
| 18:39.47 | jsmith | and 4.4 |
| 18:39.57 | jsmith | and 4.3 |
| 18:39.57 | jsmith | and 4.2 |
| 18:39.58 | jsmith | On which box? |
| 18:40.16 | thebigdog | on a 4.4 box when running the find command can you pass the size in M or G and not get it to error |
| 18:40.20 | thebigdog | like |
| 18:40.29 | thebigdog | find . -type f -size +2G |
| 18:42.10 | herlo | thebigdog: what about redirecting output for stderr to /dev/null |
| 18:42.21 | herlo | find . -type f -size +2G 2> /dev/null |
| 18:42.43 | thebigdog | i cant get it to recognize the size in "G" or "M" is the issue |
| 18:42.49 | thebigdog | on my gentoo it works fine |
| 18:42.56 | thebigdog | but on centos 4.4 it does not work |
| 18:43.18 | herlo | thebigdog: really? |
| 18:43.28 | thebigdog | yah which is weird |
| 18:43.47 | thebigdog | yeah |
| 18:44.02 | herlo | the man page says it should work... |
| 18:44.14 | thebigdog | eyah |
| 18:44.45 | herlo | thebigdog: it totally works for me |
| 18:44.47 | herlo | no errors |
| 18:44.50 | thebigdog | wow |
| 18:44.51 | herlo | Fedora 6 |
| 18:45.07 | thebigdog | let me verify the version |
| 18:45.08 | herlo | find /data -size +1G |
| 18:45.10 | herlo | /data/downloads/F-6.91-i386-DVD.iso |
| 18:45.15 | herlo | that's what I ran |
| 18:45.22 | thebigdog | GNU find version 4.1.20 |
| 18:45.40 | herlo | NU find version 4.2.27 |
| 18:45.47 | herlo | much newer |
| 18:45.59 | thebigdog | i get this - find: invalid -size type `G' |
| 18:46.10 | herlo | thebigdog: try M |
| 18:46.16 | thebigdog | same thing |
| 18:46.24 | herlo | K? |
| 18:46.28 | herlo | er k? |
| 18:46.34 | herlo | did you try little m |
| 18:46.37 | herlo | or little g |
| 18:47.09 | thebigdog | yeah i tried both upper and lower on m and g |
| 18:47.13 | thebigdog | k works and below |
| 18:47.35 | herlo | so it sounds like that's busted in older versions of find |
| 18:47.44 | thebigdog | y |
| 18:49.50 | thebigdog | just pissed me off cause i had to convert it to k |
| 18:53.23 | mindjuju | ah, corporate politics, they may suck, but i'm hard to beat |
| 18:59.56 | PoeticIntensity | so.... when's the next lunch? |
| 19:00.37 | PoeticIntensity | how about now? |
| 19:03.49 | mindjuju | oh, next geek lunch should be 2 weeks from friday |
| 19:04.13 | mindjuju | so it's php meet, then 2 weeks later, lunch, then 2 weeks later, |
| 19:06.45 | wps | it smells like alphabet soup |
| 19:07.15 | wps | cross your fingers about me making it to the meeting tonight boys… my wife said no… but I am hoping to work something out |
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| 19:07.19 | wps | I might have to bring the wee one with me |
| 19:07.46 | wps | my wife is in the middle of finals |
| 19:40.25 | thebigdog | does webot frequent here? |
| 19:42.47 | jsmith | ~seen webot |
| 19:43.14 | jbot | jsmith: i haven't seen 'webot' |
| 19:46.28 | thebigdog | im not sure if that is his irc name though |
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| 20:12.54 | PoeticIntensity | ~whack beandog |
| 20:12.56 | jbot | ACTION whacks beandog upside the head. |
| 20:13.04 | PoeticIntensity | ~melvin beandog |
| 20:13.06 | jbot | ACTION pulls beandog underwear up to the ceiling...and smiles |
| 20:13.24 | PoeticIntensity | how was the aquarium? |
| 20:14.51 | thebigdog | ~whaleslap PoeticIntensity |
| 20:14.53 | jbot | ACTION beats PoeticIntensity upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 20:14.59 | thebigdog | that good |
| 20:15.15 | PoeticIntensity | ~lart thebigdog |
| 20:15.15 | jbot | beats thebigdog into protomatter with the andromeda galaxy |
| 20:15.16 | beandog | meh, I couldnt go. |
| 20:15.18 | beandog | too much traffic. |
| 20:15.25 | beandog | Im gonna go on Saturday instead |
| 20:16.25 | PoeticIntensity | :-C |
| 20:18.04 | beandog | oh thats sweet |
| 20:18.07 | beandog | sqlite supports utf8 |
| 20:18.13 | PoeticIntensity | sweet. |
| 20:18.18 | PoeticIntensity | I think it's kinda sour. |
| 20:18.29 | PoeticIntensity | I think I wanna go eat a McFish sandwich. |
| 20:20.10 | PoeticIntensity | LOL |
| 20:20.12 | PoeticIntensity | just a little? |
| 20:20.41 | thebigdog | name the movie that is from? |
| 20:20.49 | thebigdog | can you ^ |
| 20:21.10 | PoeticIntensity | uhhh..... |
| 20:21.14 | PoeticIntensity | nothing's coming to mind. |
| 20:21.16 | thebigdog | or the reference there |
| 20:21.22 | thebigdog | think ben stiller |
| 20:21.30 | PoeticIntensity | ermm................. |
| 20:21.37 | beandog | dodgeball |
| 20:21.40 | thebigdog | ty |
| 20:21.42 | PoeticIntensity | never saw it. |
| 20:21.44 | beandog | and I havent even seen it. |
| 20:21.47 | beandog | PoeticIntensity-- |
| 20:21.48 | PoeticIntensity | riiiiiiiiiight. |
| 20:22.00 | PoeticIntensity | ~karma PoeticIntensity |
| 20:22.00 | jbot | poeticintensity has neutral karma |
| 20:22.02 | beandog | I've only seen 1024 movies in my life. |
| 20:22.10 | PoeticIntensity | is that your max? |
| 20:22.10 | thebigdog | nice |
| 20:22.14 | PoeticIntensity | you need an upgrade. |
| 20:22.15 | beandog | yes. |
| 20:22.16 | beandog | jerk. |
| 20:22.19 | PoeticIntensity | fag. |
| 20:22.27 | PoeticIntensity | so there. |
| 20:22.30 | PoeticIntensity | :-P |
| 20:22.33 | thebigdog | new apple commericial is funny |
| 20:22.57 | PoeticIntensity | I've been looking at those Hilary Clinton jpegs again.. |
| 20:23.00 | beandog | has anyone seen TMNT? |
| 20:23.02 | PoeticIntensity | holy cow, those are funny. |
| 20:23.04 | beandog | I cant wait to see it |
| 20:23.05 | beandog | heh |
| 20:23.06 | PoeticIntensity | beandog, I have. |
| 20:23.08 | thebigdog | anyone see the p3 vs wii commericial |
| 20:23.13 | beandog | PoeticIntensity: right. |
| 20:23.21 | PoeticIntensity | it's not too bad. |
| 20:23.31 | PoeticIntensity | not as bad as I thought it was gonna be. |
| 20:23.37 | PoeticIntensity | but.... not too good, either. |
| 20:23.38 | beandog | http://www.boingboing.net/2007/04/04/scary_hillary_clinto.html |
| 20:23.40 | PoeticIntensity | it was entertaining. |
| 20:23.44 | beandog | PoeticIntensity: what, really? |
| 20:23.44 | PoeticIntensity | yeah.. that one. |
| 20:23.46 | beandog | when did you go see it? |
| 20:23.52 | PoeticIntensity | last Friday... |
| 20:23.57 | PoeticIntensity | with the IT dept here. |
| 20:24.00 | PoeticIntensity | Scott saw it too. |
| 20:24.19 | beandog | buh |
| 20:24.24 | PoeticIntensity | bih |
| 20:24.24 | beandog | you jerks didnt invite me? |
| 20:24.26 | PoeticIntensity | bah |
| 20:24.29 | PoeticIntensity | we sure didn't |
| 20:24.32 | PoeticIntensity | because you WEREN'T INVITED. |
| 20:24.46 | PoeticIntensity | besides... you work too hard. |
| 20:24.58 | PoeticIntensity | you woudln't have been able to come because you're a workaholic. |
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| 21:13.55 | mindjuju | anybody know how long after a domain expries that it goes up for sell? |
| 21:14.09 | mindjuju | i need to buy one that's expried for the last 9 days that i still can't seem to buy? |
| 21:14.14 | jsmith | I think it depends on the registrar |
| 21:14.19 | wps | it does |
| 21:14.24 | jsmith | Usually it's 15 days or so |
| 21:14.32 | wps | and it can be 30-90 days in limbo sometimes because it goes back on the market |
| 21:14.32 | mindjuju | bummer |
| 21:14.59 | wps | (usually not that long… but each does it differently) |
| 21:17.14 | macnewbold | mindjuju: there are some minimums and maximums on it. IIRC, there have to be at least 7 days during which it ceases to function during which they can renew, then it has like a month or something that it can't be re-registered except by them |
| 21:17.59 | wps | that sounds right, macnewbold |
| 21:18.50 | macnewbold | if you google for some of the statuses that it goes through (things like "expired", "deleted", "pending delete" or stuff like that) you can find pages that explain the steps |
| 21:20.15 | mindjuju | why can't it just be easy? |
| 21:20.27 | mindjuju | was thinking of buying some for tonight's meet |
| 21:20.30 | mindjuju | you going beandog? |
| 21:20.42 | beandog | no |
| 21:20.47 | beandog | I dont believe in calendars. |
| 21:20.50 | beandog | or time. |
| 21:20.58 | mindjuju | well, then I guess you'd go better buy a donut then |
| 21:21.06 | jsmith | mmmn.... donuts |
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| 21:21.58 | mindjuju | i thought time was as real as distance |
| 21:22.12 | mindjuju | do you not believe in distance, beandog? |
| 21:22.37 | beandog | I try not to think about it |
| 21:22.56 | mindjuju | ah |
| 21:22.59 | beandog | I learned all the science I need to know from Star Trek |
| 21:23.03 | macnewbold | mindjuju: if you're the one who let the domain expire, all the extra protections on it are very desirable. they're present to help prevent people transparently re-registering expired domains (stealing them practically) and holding them hostage |
| 21:23.39 | mindjuju | yeah, but the registrars typically send you a notice like 2 months out reminding you |
| 21:24.01 | macnewbold | right, but that only arrives if you haven't changed your email address :) |
| 21:24.17 | mindjuju | your prolly right though, it's a nice service to have unless you're on the wrong side of it |
| 21:24.26 | mindjuju | you coming tonight? |
| 21:24.43 | macnewbold | I wish I could, but I won't be able to make it. Again. |
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| 21:24.56 | macnewbold | my life's been pretty crazy, especially these last few months |
| 21:36.25 | beandog | anyone seen Redline? |
| 21:36.48 | thebigdog | anyone here using flex? |
| 21:37.00 | jsmith | anyone here want to buy me a laptop? |
| 21:37.20 | thebigdog | haha |
| 21:37.24 | wps | I'm still trying to figure what flex is |
| 21:37.42 | jsmith | Is that the Adobe offline flash stuff? |
| 21:38.02 | wps | it's Adobe related-to-flash something |
| 21:38.02 | thebigdog | its like adobe's super ajax |
| 21:38.22 | jsmith | Ah... |
| 21:40.04 | thebigdog | ive heard some good things about it |
| 21:40.10 | thebigdog | has some nice features |
| 21:40.38 | thebigdog | like cool ui crap :( |
| 21:42.57 | beandog | jsmith: Ill sell you my p2 |
| 21:43.23 | tierra | mindjuju: this is a good read in regards to domain expiration: http://www.mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2005/03/how-to-snatch-an-expiring-domain |
| 21:43.54 | mindjuju | thx tierra |
| 21:44.22 | mindjuju | hey, tierra, you work around xilch, don't you? |
| 21:44.49 | tierra | we're good friends, but we don't work together |
| 21:45.16 | mindjuju | oh, was trying to reach xilch, but hadn't been able to |
| 21:45.34 | tierra | com4 does though |
| 21:45.55 | tierra | and synic |
| 21:46.20 | mindjuju | com4 , synic , or xilch , anybody around? |
| 21:46.56 | synic | yup |
| 22:11.20 | Lone_Wanderer | Or - here's an idea - just draw a circle on the map of the desired radius and let them pick out the ones that fall within it on their own. |
| 22:12.39 | macnewbold | if you have lat/long of the markers, |
| 22:12.50 | macnewbold | you can take center+radius in each direction and filter that way |
| 22:13.05 | macnewbold | basically making a square with the right radius |
| 22:13.12 | macnewbold | then do an add'l filter to trim the corners |
| 22:14.36 | thebigdog | lol |
| 22:21.26 | beandog | I havent stated anything |
| 22:21.33 | PoeticIntensity | I need a twinkie. |
| 22:21.50 | PoeticIntensity | *sigh*.... |
| 22:21.56 | thebigdog | i had some cookies |
| 22:22.23 | PoeticIntensity | hey... wait a minute.... I've got some GS cookies right here! |
| 22:22.35 | thebigdog | man i got so many boxes |
| 22:22.45 | PoeticIntensity | heh... |
| 22:22.48 | PoeticIntensity | I got just under $100.00 worth. |
| 22:23.06 | beandog | I'm saving my $$$ to buy more DVDs |
| 22:23.06 | beandog | :D |
| 22:23.16 | PoeticIntensity | ya can't munch a dvd, beandog. |
| 22:23.27 | PoeticIntensity | so neener neener. |
| 22:24.04 | PoeticIntensity | find me something funny to look at, beandog. |
| 22:24.04 | PoeticIntensity | you're quite good at that. |
| 22:24.08 | beandog | what, so now Im supposed to entertain on demand? |
| 22:24.08 | PoeticIntensity | oh WOW. |
| 22:24.10 | PoeticIntensity | *THAT* was good! |
| 22:24.18 | PoeticIntensity | without retort. |
| 22:24.21 | PoeticIntensity | or resort. |
| 22:24.25 | beandog | Ooh, torts. |
| 22:24.25 | PoeticIntensity | or anything to snort. |
| 22:24.59 | beandog | I cant find anything |
| 22:25.02 | beandog | Ive been hard at work today |
| 22:25.04 | beandog | enfocado |
| 22:25.06 | beandog | trabajando |
| 22:25.08 | beandog | durisimo. |
| 22:25.09 | PoeticIntensity | goooooooooooood. |
| 22:25.12 | PoeticIntensity | then keep at it. |
| 22:25.15 | PoeticIntensity | I'll look at boing boing |
| 22:25.21 | beandog | huzzah! |
| 22:25.33 | beandog | http://worsethanfailure.com/Articles/MeaningleBneB.aspx |
| 22:26.19 | beandog | thats the best I can come up with on short notice. |
| 22:28.34 | beandog | http://www.boingboing.net/2007/04/17/howto_make_a_roomsiz.html |
| 22:29.56 | beandog | http://youtube.com/watch?v=I2ZIozw2Ipo |
| 22:30.21 | PoeticIntensity | ~link beandog |
| 22:30.46 | beandog | I gotta fix that someday. |
| 22:31.04 | beandog | ~lart silly xchat plugins with b0rken english |
| 22:31.04 | jbot | follow's silly xchat plugins with b0rken english with a gauntlet and ... scratch ... HUMILIATION |
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| 22:51.16 | bradym | hey beandog, you using the winamp plugin for xchat? what's the command to display what you're listening to? haven't been able to find that |
| 22:51.33 | beandog | audacious |
| 22:53.04 | bradym | ah.. k |
| 23:07.29 | beandog | bradym: mine though is /music |
| 23:07.43 | beandog | Audacious-Show 1.2.0 plugin loaded |
| 23:07.43 | beandog | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:09.35 | bradym | hmm.. none of those work for the winamp plugin |
| 23:09.42 | beandog | :T |
| 23:11.58 | Utah_Dave | beandog: is audacious in the Ubuntu repositories? |
| 23:12.49 | thebigdog | lol |
| 23:13.08 | thebigdog | i dont think that beandog uses ubuntu |
| 23:14.01 | Utah_Dave | he's a gentoo freakazoid, right? |
| 23:14.41 | thebigdog | yeah like me |
| 23:15.26 | Utah_Dave | :) |
| 23:15.37 | Utah_Dave | later |
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| 23:16.42 | beandog | heh |
| 23:21.01 | thebigdog | i think utah_dave did not like that |
| 23:21.03 | thebigdog | :) |
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