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| 00:17.23 | mindjuju | that's wierd, a movie called Perfect Strangers? Wasn't that a TV show about a sheep herder called "Balkie" or something and some dude with a perm? |
| 00:18.47 | Utah_Dave | yeah, I think so |
| 00:19.22 | mindjuju | i guess now it has bruce willis and halle berry. i wonder which one plays the sheep herder named balkie and which plays a dude with a perm |
| 00:19.57 | Utah_Dave | or was that show Bosom Buddies? |
| 00:20.14 | mindjuju | bosom buddies had tom hanks |
| 00:20.19 | Utah_Dave | Hm. |
| 00:20.31 | mindjuju | and was from mid 70s were perfect strangers was like mid 80s |
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| 00:44.55 | synic | Utah_Dave: oh yeah? |
| 00:45.06 | Utah_Dave | yep |
| 00:45.08 | synic | is that anything like /quit? |
| 00:45.17 | mindjuju | nice |
| 00:45.25 | Utah_Dave | ? |
| 00:57.45 | Utah_Dave | synic: yeah |
| 00:57.53 | synic | haha |
| 00:58.04 | synic | delayed response there |
| 00:59.44 | mindjuju | they kept the date as a varchar, and now i have to pull a window of 60 days on that field |
| 01:01.28 | burnin | hehe |
| 01:56.27 | Utah_Dave | later, mindjuju |
| 01:56.33 | mindjuju | cya |
| 01:56.37 | Utah_Dave | Go home! You work too hard! |
| 01:56.46 | Utah_Dave | :) |
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| 04:04.16 | timinator | hey... anyone around? |
| 04:04.43 | mindjuju | yup |
| 04:04.51 | mindjuju | what are you doing here so late? |
| 04:05.16 | timinator | making my eyes bloodshot |
| 04:05.18 | timinator | you? |
| 04:05.59 | mindjuju | fixing a crapplet that somebody else wrote |
| 04:06.16 | mindjuju | they stored the datetime as a varchar, that's how bad this was |
| 04:08.23 | timinator | that's terrible |
| 04:08.48 | timinator | makes me want to curl up in the fetal position.... and I'm not even working on it |
| 04:09.04 | timinator | :) |
| 04:09.19 | timinator | um.... |
| 04:09.20 | mindjuju | well, i'm mostly done, but i was really mad for a while |
| 04:09.41 | timinator | I know a frontend guy that's looking for some backend work |
| 04:10.00 | timinator | are you wanting any extra work? |
| 04:10.45 | mindjuju | i'm really swamped right now, as i just picked up a side project for a company down in Springville |
| 04:10.49 | mindjuju | thx though! |
| 04:10.54 | timinator | np |
| 04:11.28 | timinator | if you're ever wanting work... call me, I'm connected |
| 04:11.54 | timinator | that wasn't supposed to sound egotistical |
| 04:11.54 | mindjuju | that'd be cool, i should be all done with Springville in about 3 weeks |
| 04:12.05 | mindjuju | didn't take it that way at all |
| 04:12.08 | timinator | cool |
| 04:20.43 | timinator | I'm out.... see ya in the AM |
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| 05:07.05 | mindjuju | anybody around? |
| 05:07.12 | burnin | yes |
| 05:07.13 | mgeary | meh |
| 05:07.27 | mindjuju | the ttl in an RSS is in minutes right? |
| 05:07.49 | mgeary | dunno offhand. haven't done much with rss |
| 05:07.49 | mindjuju | so if i want the aggregator to pull it once a day, it would be what ever 24 * 60 is |
| 05:07.53 | mindjuju | oh |
| 05:07.58 | mindjuju | bummer |
| 05:14.13 | mindjuju | just as an FYI, it is in minutes so 1440 for a ttl is 1 day |
| 05:15.13 | mgeary | cool |
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| 13:42.49 | timinator | mawnin' |
| 13:45.20 | herlo | timinator: hello! |
| 13:45.40 | Utah_Dave | morning |
| 13:46.42 | herlo | Utah_Dave: mornin' pardner |
| 13:46.42 | Utah_Dave | how's it going, bro? |
| 13:49.08 | herlo | Utah_Dave: good, you? |
| 13:49.17 | Utah_Dave | herlo: does vim have something like a macro language? |
| 13:49.23 | herlo | Utah_Dave: for sure |
| 13:49.34 | Utah_Dave | can you point me to a howto online for it? |
| 13:49.35 | herlo | q records and stops |
| 13:49.53 | herlo | then do whatever you want to have recorded in between |
| 13:50.11 | Utah_Dave | how do you run the macro? |
| 13:51.42 | herlo | please hold |
| 13:55.32 | Utah_Dave | qjllhhk |
| 13:56.30 | Utah_Dave | looks like if you record it to 'm' then you hit '@m' to run it |
| 13:57.49 | herlo | Utah_Dave: got it |
| 13:57.54 | herlo | q |
| 13:57.59 | herlo | then the letter you want to assign to it |
| 13:58.05 | herlo | then do your macro |
| 13:58.07 | herlo | then q again |
| 13:58.23 | Utah_Dave | sweet |
| 13:58.24 | herlo | once you've recorded it, hit @m (if you pushed m) |
| 13:58.34 | herlo | also, you can edit your macro if you messed it up. |
| 13:58.42 | herlo | q: |
| 13:58.45 | herlo | then @m |
| 13:59.05 | herlo | oops |
| 13:59.16 | herlo | then you paste in your macro |
| 13:59.27 | herlo | man its been a day or two since I used macros |
| 14:01.08 | Utah_Dave | vim rocks the house |
| 14:01.50 | herlo | yes, it does |
| 14:03.25 | Utah_Dave | sweet. Thanks, herlo. this macro is really helping some editing I'm doing |
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| 14:24.10 | timinator | anyone going to the Blue October concert tonight?? |
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| 14:39.45 | mgeary | r.i.p. Kurt Vonnegut :( |
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| 15:39.09 | Lone_Wanderer | He died? |
| 15:39.45 | mgeary | last night |
| 15:39.55 | herlo | Zelut: Lone_Wanderer yeah, check out the wikipedia article on him |
| 15:40.02 | herlo | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurt_Vonnegut |
| 15:40.18 | herlo | or his personal website has a memorial on its home page |
| 15:40.32 | herlo | s/its/it's/g |
| 15:42.09 | dataw0lf | :( |
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| 15:51.42 | fungus | Subject: "Or posterior on reservoir". Cool email about butt skiing, or SPAM? |
| 15:54.00 | timinator | I vote SPAM |
| 15:54.03 | Lone_Wanderer | I guess that depends on whether you're on a butt skiing mailing list or not. |
| 15:54.35 | timinator | that's true... a butt skiing maillist would probably have subject lines like that |
| 15:55.05 | timinator | :) |
| 15:55.07 | herlo | timinator: why? |
| 15:55.29 | Lone_Wanderer | Because he hates the Rutgers basketball team, clearly. |
| 15:55.34 | Lone_Wanderer | And our freedom. |
| 15:55.56 | dataw0lf | :( another sad state of affairs |
| 15:56.06 | timinator | yes, it's because I hate our freedoms |
| 15:56.16 | dataw0lf | how am I supposed to get my daily dose of Imus if MSNBC pulls off the simulcast? |
| 15:56.39 | Lone_Wanderer | Why do you hate our freedoms, timinator? |
| 15:56.49 | timinator | LOL |
| 15:56.50 | dataw0lf | is timinator a terrorist? |
| 15:56.53 | timinator | I don't LW |
| 15:56.55 | timinator | no DW |
| 15:56.57 | Lone_Wanderer | Obviously he is. |
| 15:57.01 | timinator | LOL |
| 15:57.06 | Lone_Wanderer | I mean he's got a beard. |
| 15:57.12 | Lone_Wanderer | What more evidence do you need??? |
| 15:57.16 | dataw0lf | >_> |
| 15:57.16 | dataw0lf | <_< |
| 15:57.27 | timinator | LOL |
| 15:57.39 | Lone_Wanderer | You'll need this scimitar, too. |
| 15:57.42 | Lone_Wanderer | And a camel. |
| 15:57.51 | timinator | a towel DW? hand me an igniter |
| 15:57.58 | timinator | LOL |
| 15:58.43 | Lone_Wanderer | An igniter? |
| 15:58.47 | Lone_Wanderer | Like for model rockets? *confused* |
| 15:59.00 | timinator | for a bomb |
| 15:59.18 | timinator | wouldn't one use an igniter for a bomb? |
| 15:59.24 | Lone_Wanderer | I dunno. |
| 15:59.33 | breece | detonator? |
| 15:59.37 | timinator | ah |
| 15:59.39 | Lone_Wanderer | speaking of blowing yourself up |
| 15:59.55 | Lone_Wanderer | the police in Casablanca surrounded a building where some terrorist suspects were staying |
| 16:00.22 | mgeary | back when mgeary wouldn't have been put in jail for such things |
| 16:00.24 | Lone_Wanderer | they shot one of them, but the other three got away |
| 16:00.27 | Lone_Wanderer | and blew themselves up |
| 16:00.36 | Lone_Wanderer | no-one else was harmed |
| 16:00.53 | herlo | damn, I am talking in every channel I have open today, might as well complete the queue |
| 16:01.31 | Lone_Wanderer | :p |
| 16:01.47 | Lone_Wanderer | timinator: you should visit Morocco sometime. That'll change your mind about them thar A-rabs pretty quick. |
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| 16:03.32 | timinator | ya? |
| 16:03.39 | Lone_Wanderer | Ya. |
| 16:03.48 | Lone_Wanderer | I lived there for two years. |
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| 16:04.12 | timinator | cool |
| 16:04.29 | Lone_Wanderer | It's one of the most liberal Muslim countries. |
| 16:04.33 | timinator | why did you live there? |
| 16:04.37 | Lone_Wanderer | My Dad is a spy. |
| 16:04.51 | Lone_Wanderer | And by "spy" I mean "agronomist". |
| 16:05.27 | Lone_Wanderer | Have you heard of USAID? |
| 16:05.36 | timinator | no |
| 16:05.51 | Lone_Wanderer | They... give money to other countries. To do things. *cough* |
| 16:06.08 | Lone_Wanderer | I don't know much about them except that they paid for the project that sent my family over there. |
| 16:06.24 | timinator | huh |
| 16:06.36 | Lone_Wanderer | The Moroccan government wanted (still wants to) improve their agriculture |
| 16:06.58 | Lone_Wanderer | so they opened a University-level agriculture institute, and they wanted American agronomists to come over and help them set it up |
| 16:07.05 | Lone_Wanderer | and my dad is one of the guys they picked |
| 16:07.25 | Lone_Wanderer | he still goes over there a couple times a year to help them out, only he's doing it with the Benson institute at BYU now. |
| 16:07.55 | Lone_Wanderer | Incidentally, Morocco was one of the first countries to recognize the US as a sovereign state after we kicked out the Brits. |
| 16:08.04 | beandog | Lone_Wanderer: really? my dad is too |
| 16:08.08 | Lone_Wanderer | cool |
| 16:08.14 | Lone_Wanderer | a spy or a farmer? :p |
| 16:08.18 | beandog | agronomist |
| 16:08.35 | Lone_Wanderer | I like agronomists. |
| 16:08.36 | beandog | I think theres only like 5 countries in the world he hasn't been to. |
| 16:08.53 | Lone_Wanderer | They're scientists without the pretension or egos (mostly). |
| 16:09.18 | Lone_Wanderer | 'cause usually an agronomist is someone who grew up on a farm and decided to get a degree in it |
| 16:09.47 | Lone_Wanderer | Where is he working now? |
| 16:21.24 | beandog | he's retired |
| 16:21.30 | beandog | Hes going on a mission in a month |
| 16:21.31 | beandog | :D |
| 16:21.33 | Lone_Wanderer | ahh, cool |
| 16:21.36 | Lone_Wanderer | where to? |
| 16:21.41 | beandog | South Africa |
| 16:21.45 | Lone_Wanderer | awesome |
| 16:21.49 | beandog | yah |
| 16:21.49 | beandog | Im jealous. |
| 16:22.19 | Lone_Wanderer | From what I've heard, though, South Africa is swamped with porn. |
| 16:22.34 | Lone_Wanderer | billboards, in the workplace, etc. |
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| 16:27.08 | beandog | hmm, that sucks |
| 16:27.56 | Lone_Wanderer | yeah. maybe it's cleaned up in the past couple years, I don't nkow. |
| 16:29.09 | mgeary | uhh, yeah. 'cause that's the trend everywhere |
| 16:29.48 | Lone_Wanderer | Well, I heard that from a guy I lived with about five years ago who went there for work. |
| 16:34.25 | dataw0lf | someone has never watched any european television after 5 |
| 16:40.20 | Lone_Wanderer | Well, seeing as how he's the perfect example of an Ugly American, no, he probably never has watched European anything, at any time. |
| 16:40.38 | Lone_Wanderer | Unless pro wrestling is European. |
| 16:41.30 | dataw0lf | if only it were... |
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| 16:48.19 | knine | ha ha |
| 16:55.28 | dataw0lf | bigdog_ut: http://code.djangoproject.com/wiki/GeoDjango |
| 16:55.36 | dataw0lf | ah, he innit here |
| 16:55.45 | thebigdog | i am here |
| 16:56.30 | thebigdog | i might have to check it out |
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| 16:57.36 | dataw0lf | there |
| 16:57.52 | dataw0lf | thebigdog: haven't played with it, but I'm going to screw around with it tonight. |
| 16:58.11 | thebigdog | yeah i might check it out, i have some tables i can test with |
| 16:59.27 | mgeary | looks like the things i used to find in my backyard when we were foolish enough to get my dog soft toys |
| 17:00.09 | mgeary | http://www.hanttula.com/exhibits/plushtoys/page2.htm |
| 17:01.42 | Lone_Wanderer | heh |
| 17:01.50 | Lone_Wanderer | my dog is being good with the one soft toy he's got |
| 17:03.22 | dataw0lf | my dog just regularly steals italian sausage, pizza, and steak from me, and ignores her supposed toys |
| 17:03.25 | Lone_Wanderer | http://www.morbidtendencies.com/ |
| 17:03.38 | dataw0lf | although she has grown fond of a piece of driftwood I have that she drags around like it's her blankey |
| 17:04.33 | Lone_Wanderer | Girl's site is a bit hard to navigate, but once you hit on the animals she makes it's really quite good. |
| 17:06.43 | Lone_Wanderer | Like these: http://www.morbidtendencies.com/crittercats/skullh.html |
| 17:14.33 | wps | anyone familiar with IDI in Orem? |
| 17:14.59 | mgeary | i've heard of 'em. that's it. they're on 8th north, i believe |
| 17:17.26 | breece | I interviewed there a while back before I accepted where I work now |
| 17:17.32 | breece | yeah - they're on 8th north |
| 17:18.19 | breece | seemed a pretty standard tech company, with turnover a bit higher than average, or growing rapidly -- they were looking for programmers every couple of months |
| 17:19.50 | mgeary | wps: why do you ask? |
| 17:20.49 | wps | I had never heard of them until today and was curious |
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| 18:17.24 | wps | why oh why do some developers believe that they are God and can resize my browser???? |
| 18:17.41 | mindjuju | ugh, i hate browser resize |
| 18:18.21 | wps | I wish that I could get my hands on them and rearrange their face |
| 18:25.39 | tierra | It's supposed to be a commonly known rule in GUI design that a window should never resize itself without the user telling it to (whether that's by clicking a drop-down arrow, or dragging the borders) after it is first created and laid out on the screen. |
| 18:28.10 | herlo | wps: use firefox, it can prevent people from resizing your browser for you... |
| 18:28.21 | wps | yeah |
| 18:28.37 | herlo | not that it makes what the devs did right though... |
| 18:28.44 | herlo | :) |
| 18:28.55 | wps | I just don't understand why browsers even respect that command in the first place? |
| 18:29.08 | wps | why should a third party be able to change something outside of their website? |
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| 18:46.44 | beandog | hey wps |
| 18:46.54 | beandog | I just sent in a subscribe request to gmane for the uphpu list |
| 18:47.03 | beandog | http://gmane.org/ |
| 18:47.10 | wps | alright |
| 18:47.12 | beandog | so if you get a request, please accept it :) |
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| 18:58.06 | mindjuju | ~rlart |
| 18:58.09 | jbot | stabs mgeary |
| 18:58.15 | mgeary | ouch |
| 18:58.17 | mgeary | dangit |
| 18:58.25 | _psychic_ | ~lart mindjuju |
| 18:58.25 | jbot | drops a baby grand on mindjuju |
| 18:58.35 | mindjuju | hey, the fates spoke! wasn't me! |
| 18:58.53 | mgeary | ~curse jbot |
| 19:00.51 | mgeary | ~reprimand jbot |
| 19:01.06 | mgeary | wait for it |
| 19:01.13 | mindjuju | jbot, yo |
| 19:01.14 | jbot | Yo wazzaaaap my brotha?! |
| 19:02.41 | mgeary | dang you jbot |
| 19:02.59 | mgeary | jbot: reprimand $1 is <action> rounds on $1, "$1, you dang idjit! ^&*#!%^@. Next time you do that, i'm gonna give you what-fer, ya stupid git!" |
| 19:03.00 | jbot | ...but cmd: reprimand (.*?) is already something else... |
| 19:03.11 | mgeary | forget reprimand |
| 19:03.23 | mgeary | jbot hates me |
| 19:03.24 | jbot | yes. |
| 19:03.28 | mgeary | see? |
| 19:04.29 | mgeary | jbot: rebukekindly $1 is <action> rounds on $1, "$1, you dang idjit! ^&*#!%^@. Next time you do that, i'm gonna give you what-fer, ya stupid git!" |
| 19:04.30 | jbot | mgeary: okay |
| 19:04.35 | mgeary | ~ rebukekindly jbot |
| 19:04.38 | mgeary | ~rebukekindly jbot |
| 19:05.51 | mindjuju | jbot, be cool to mgeary--he's alright |
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| 19:18.32 | mindjuju | ah, the Hayes Smartmodem . pratically the rolls royce of modems |
| 19:18.42 | brasto | did wps change his mind about the From field for the uphpu list? |
| 19:19.21 | wps | eh? |
| 19:21.35 | brasto | when i hit "Reply" it goes to uphpu now, instead of the individual who sent the mail |
| 19:21.51 | brasto | wait... not on this one... |
| 19:22.03 | brasto | odd... |
| 19:22.09 | wps | doesn't for me |
| 19:23.15 | brasto | ah, i see what happened... one moment... |
| 19:24.21 | wps | pray tell |
| 19:25.03 | brasto | if you look at the headers in this email (not shown in web archive): http://uphpu.org/pipermail/uphpu/2007-April/006651.html |
| 19:25.14 | brasto | it has a "Reply to" |
| 19:25.33 | brasto | and "Reply to" has the UPHPU list |
| 19:26.02 | wps | interesting |
| 19:26.04 | wps | I wonder how it got there |
| 19:26.18 | brasto | perhaps Justin Giboney set that field in his email... |
| 19:26.26 | wps | must be |
| 19:26.39 | mindjuju | how cool - http://allonlettera.com/?p=4 |
| 19:27.06 | beandog | that list is pretty arbitrary |
| 19:29.16 | brasto | Utah_Dave, what is "Demonstration Mode" in pommo? |
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| 20:02.26 | Utah_Dave | I haven't used pommo yet. Not sure |
| 20:06.07 | mindjuju | who here stores their dates 3 fields in a database, |month|day|year| ? |
| 20:07.31 | beandog | nevah! |
| 20:07.32 | timinator | no takers mindjuju |
| 20:07.33 | beandog | well, sometimes. |
| 20:07.38 | beandog | nope ... never. |
| 20:09.26 | timinator | that's even worse than storing it as a VARCHAR |
| 20:10.24 | mindjuju | that's what i thought |
| 20:10.32 | mindjuju | was looking at that email on the PHP list |
| 20:10.41 | mindjuju | about databases, he has his dates all split up |
| 20:11.07 | mindjuju | > Movie_Release_Year > DVD_Release_Year > Movie_Release_Month > DVD_Release_Month > Movie_Release_Day > DVD_Release_Year |
| 20:11.20 | mgeary | urgh |
| 20:12.27 | mindjuju | yeah, seemed like it would be tons more work on the short and long run |
| 20:12.54 | mindjuju | but since nobody said anything about it, started to get curious |
| 20:21.45 | thebigdog | i did not see that email...that is taking it a little too far |
| 20:28.03 | mgeary | mindjuju: commenting on ALL the stupidity in the world is wearisome work... ;) |
| 20:28.43 | beandog | not until gmane gets setup. |
| 20:28.58 | beandog | I think hes got it about 50% right though |
| 20:30.53 | beandog | the naming scheme makes me want to claw my eyes out though |
| 20:31.41 | mindjuju | that's too funny |
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| 20:41.10 | mindjuju | jbot, sup |
| 20:41.12 | jbot | Yo mindjuju, how's it going eh? |
| 20:50.26 | optikal | Could someone give me a hand debugging some ajax? It works beautiful in IE/FireFox doing a loop (for testing purposes, it sends 3 diff queries, waiting for readystate4 on each before sending the next).. Opera chokes and sends the first, gets to state 4, sends the second and hangs right after it receives state 1. |
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| 20:58.22 | optikal | For anyone that has a second and can take a look, heres the url: http://www.ezwatchstore.com/custom-quote-wizard/testajax.php |
| 20:58.39 | optikal | Forgive the 12 alert boxes that will pop up, its for debugging purposes. |
| 20:58.58 | optikal | (1 for each state for each state of the 3 queries) |
| 20:59.10 | wps | mercy… that is a lot of pop ups |
| 20:59.53 | optikal | I figured I'd leave them up so anyone that looks at this can see the readystates in action.. Ive had the readystate one commented out and just left the response one. |
| 21:01.10 | optikal | Not sure if this is related, but Firefox says its a loop behind on the first readystate response (1), but once it hits rs 2 it says hte proper loop number. |
| 21:02.37 | optikal | Im gunna comment that out, anyone who wants to see it let me know and I'll uncomment. |
| 21:12.59 | mgeary | optikal: are you tracking the state and delaying the subsequent commands because your app requires it, or because of the way Ajax handles it's requests, because Prototype abstracts things to allow you to fire off multiple commands... |
| 21:14.38 | optikal | Well, the app slightly requires it.. although I'll probably check into Prototype at a later time |
| 21:15.24 | optikal | There's a few requests that have to be sent/processed before certain other requests can be sent |
| 21:15.35 | mgeary | k |
| 21:15.53 | mgeary | that's the only thing i've used prototype for, and it's been great |
| 21:16.08 | mgeary | it was very easy to replace my own calls with prototype calls |
| 21:16.21 | optikal | nice |
| 21:16.29 | mgeary | i don't like how other Ajax tools require a whole set of changes |
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| 21:22.57 | optikal | Havent really used many ajax tools just yet, plan to play with xajax soon.. just really been diving into it |
| 21:23.17 | optikal | Its been fun and pretty painless up until this point |
| 21:41.36 | mgeary | anyone know how to refer to a high-ascii character (m-dash, in this case) when using the preg_* functions? |
| 21:41.39 | unum | anyone have recommendation on php-ldap library |
| 21:41.50 | mgeary | (in such a way that the code works everywhere) |
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| 21:45.01 | mgeary | no takers on hi-ascii pcre, huh? |
| 21:46.00 | thebigdog | unum what do you want to know about php-ldap? |
| 21:57.03 | _psychic_ | mgeary: – doesn't work? |
| 21:57.25 | mgeary | well, again, it's specific to the platform |
| 21:57.35 | mgeary | so, the m-dash is coming from a CSV file that is generated by Excel |
| 21:57.44 | mgeary | in Excel, the m-dash is preserved, of course, on Mac or Win |
| 21:58.06 | mgeary | but in the CSV export, it's going to get ascii-locked into some paradigm |
| 21:58.31 | mgeary | and that may vary depending on the platform the CSV is produced on, i believe |
| 21:58.51 | mgeary | another way of asking my question is: |
| 21:59.18 | mgeary | (since i'm willing to put in both the Mac and Win version of the m-dash) |
| 21:59.33 | mgeary | "when coding on a Mac, how can i feed a Windows m-dash to the preg_* function, in addition to the Mac-native m-dash?" |
| 21:59.41 | mgeary | understand what i mean? |
| 22:00.03 | mgeary | i guess i could try to track down the ascii code and use char() |
| 22:04.02 | beandog | m-dash? |
| 22:04.04 | beandog | whats that |
| 22:04.11 | mgeary | a long hyphen |
| 22:04.15 | beandog | oh. |
| 22:04.19 | mgeary | (as long as an "m") |
| 22:04.20 | Utah_Dave | unum: just use PHP's ldap functions |
| 22:04.37 | beandog | why not do a str_replace |
| 22:04.42 | beandog | er. |
| 22:04.44 | beandog | I dunno. |
| 22:04.47 | mgeary | there's hyphens, n-dashes and m-dashes. I won't bore you with the grammatical distinctions ;) |
| 22:05.00 | mgeary | beandog: i would if i could reliably pass a search string |
| 22:05.09 | mgeary | my question is, how do i get the search string |
| 22:05.29 | beandog | well |
| 22:05.31 | beandog | uh. |
| 22:06.59 | beandog | copy & paste? |
| 22:06.59 | beandog | :) |
| 22:07.00 | beandog | do you need to keep them? |
| 22:07.09 | mgeary | this is all in PHP |
| 22:07.43 | mgeary | hey, it's working! no, not my m-dash thingy |
| 22:07.44 | mgeary | this: |
| 22:07.57 | mgeary | ~rebukekindly beandog |
| 22:08.10 | jbot | ACTION rounds on beandog, "beandog, you dang idjit! ^&*#!%^@. Next time you do that, i'm gonna give you what-fer, ya stupid git!" |
| 22:08.12 | mgeary | well, it *was* working.... |
| 22:08.27 | mgeary | there we go |
| 22:08.32 | mgeary | jbot: you're slooow |
| 22:08.45 | mgeary | beandog: no offense :) |
| 22:28.14 | beandog | eh |
| 22:28.16 | beandog | what happened? |
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| 22:28.22 | beandog | Im still lost, tbh. |
| 22:28.37 | mgeary | you were the target of my rebuke |
| 22:28.50 | mgeary | ~rebukekindly jbot |
| 22:29.02 | jbot | ACTION rounds on jbot, "jbot, you dang idjit! ^&*#!%^@. Next time you do that, i'm gonna give you what-fer, ya stupid git!" |
| 22:30.19 | beandog | well I got that |
| 22:30.23 | beandog | I meant with your dash dash thingie |
| 22:30.25 | mgeary | oh |
| 22:30.28 | mgeary | yeah |
| 22:30.37 | mgeary | i'm ignoring it for now. it's technically my client's problem |
| 22:30.47 | beandog | ok |
| 22:31.06 | mgeary | when/if it bubbles up in priority, i'll get off my duff, sadly fire up Windows (in Parallels), and figure out the ascii code for m-dash there |
| 22:31.14 | beandog | oh |
| 22:31.17 | beandog | you want the code? |
| 22:31.18 | beandog | hold on. |
| 22:31.48 | beandog | — |
| 22:31.49 | beandog | is one |
| 22:31.57 | beandog | — is the other |
| 22:32.01 | beandog | you probably didnt need that though. |
| 22:32.28 | beandog | meh |
| 22:32.37 | mgeary | those are html entities |
| 22:32.42 | mgeary | i need something that PHP can work with |
| 22:33.03 | thebigdog | you need the char number probably |
| 22:33.08 | mgeary | yep |
| 22:33.30 | mgeary | ord() |
| 22:33.34 | mgeary | ord("–") |
| 22:33.49 | mgeary | will do what i want, but it's output would vary from Win to Mac/Unix |
| 22:34.36 | beandog | I hate crap like that. |
| 22:35.16 | mgeary | me too |
| 22:35.59 | thebigdog | a hypen is what you want #45 |
| 22:36.00 | mgeary | that's the *output* that i want, but the *input* could be either a mac m-dash or a windows m-dash |
| 22:36.02 | mgeary | as submitted in a CSV file |
| 22:36.06 | beandog | Ah. |
| 22:36.14 | beandog | I still dont see why you dont standardize em. |
| 22:36.16 | beandog | :T |
| 22:36.19 | beandog | I think I'm missing something. |
| 22:36.21 | mgeary | i'm not in control of the CSV |
| 22:36.26 | mgeary | i'm building a parser |
| 22:36.29 | beandog | right |
| 22:36.36 | mgeary | people will submit a CSV, exported from Excel |
| 22:36.39 | beandog | ok |
| 22:36.50 | mgeary | the m-dashes *should* be hyphens, but some people mess up |
| 22:36.57 | mgeary | so i'm trying to clean them up |
| 22:36.59 | beandog | ok |
| 22:37.06 | thebigdog | can you replace them all before you parse? |
| 22:37.17 | beandog | or replace them in the parser |
| 22:37.23 | mgeary | sure, but i still need to track down the find string |
| 22:37.33 | beandog | why not just output it in an HTML page |
| 22:37.34 | thebigdog | what you mean? |
| 22:37.35 | beandog | and copy & paste the booger |
| 22:37.36 | beandog | :) |
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| 22:37.51 | mgeary | beandog: yeah, that'd be a nice part of an automated parser |
| 22:38.04 | beandog | No, I mean right now, to get the character |
| 22:38.29 | mgeary | yeah, i could do that. |
| 22:40.10 | mgeary | 195 |
| 22:40.14 | mgeary | little sucker |
| 22:40.27 | mgeary | versus 226 on a mac |
| 22:44.00 | mgeary | :/ dinna work |
| 22:45.31 | mgeary | looks like in the render in html-> copy/paste process the identity is getting changed |
| 22:45.57 | beandog | buh. |
| 22:46.05 | beandog | death to excel. |
| 22:46.18 | beandog | that's all I gotta say. |
| 22:47.03 | mgeary | ~kindrebuke excel |
| 22:47.42 | mgeary | jeeeze, jbot |
| 22:48.33 | beandog | man Im so glad tomorrow is Friday |
| 22:48.42 | mgeary | oh wait |
| 22:48.48 | mgeary | ~rebukekindly jbot |
| 22:48.50 | jbot | ACTION rounds on jbot, "jbot, you dang idjit! ^&*#!%^@. Next time you do that, i'm gonna give you what-fer, ya stupid git!" |
| 22:48.51 | mgeary | there we go, duh. |
| 22:48.58 | mgeary | ~rebukekindly excel |
| 22:49.00 | jbot | ACTION rounds on excel, "excel, you dang idjit! ^&*#!%^@. Next time you do that, i'm gonna give you what-fer, ya stupid git!" |
| 22:49.08 | mgeary | alright, i'll give it a rest |
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| 22:50.29 | brast1 | on an afforementioned topic, that of dates: |
| 22:50.56 | brast1 | MySQL date fields, including timestamp, have limits |
| 22:51.12 | brast1 | I think neither can go back before 1970 |
| 22:52.25 | brast1 | how do any of you store pre-1970 dates? |
| 22:52.59 | brast1 | split, like mentioned earlier for the movie db topic? eg: year field, month field, day field? |
| 22:58.05 | beandog | bigint |
| 22:58.07 | beandog | :) |
| 22:58.15 | beandog | er, wait. |
| 22:58.19 | PoeticIntensity | no |
| 22:58.21 | PoeticIntensity | I will not wait. |
| 22:58.23 | PoeticIntensity | jerk. |
| 22:58.35 | beandog | doesnt mysql have a pre-1970 date col. type? |
| 22:58.42 | PoeticIntensity | ~lart beandog |
| 22:58.43 | jbot | offers beandog some herring |
| 22:58.58 | PoeticIntensity | fine. |
| 22:59.10 | beandog | :) |
| 22:59.29 | mgeary | i'm not convinced that MySQL can't natively handle pre-1970 dates |
| 22:59.46 | mgeary | we've got an app that manages therapy patients, and it stores their birthday |
| 22:59.55 | mgeary | and many people are older than 37 |
| 23:00.19 | beandog | I suppose if you wanted to you *could* use a bigint |
| 23:00.19 | beandog | and just do 19690101 |
| 23:00.19 | beandog | or something lame like that. |
| 23:00.22 | beandog | Im not sure. |
| 23:00.24 | beandog | tbh. |
| 23:00.36 | mgeary | ah, it appears that *some* MySQL implementations can't handle it |
| 23:00.46 | mgeary | ahh |
| 23:00.55 | mgeary | also is different b/t DATE and DATETIME |
| 23:01.00 | mgeary | DATE can go back |
| 23:01.02 | mgeary | i gotcha |
| 23:01.03 | beandog | lets just solve the problem completely by pretending everything started in 1969 |
| 23:01.15 | mgeary | well why not just have a TIME field and a DATE field? |
| 23:01.17 | mgeary | problem solved |
| 23:01.32 | mgeary | but if you need DATE only, it should go back before 1970 just fine |
| 23:01.46 | mgeary | no? |
| 23:02.45 | mgeary | indeed. i am looking at a DATE field who's value is "1907-08-29" |
| 23:04.40 | beandog | Hmm now heres a tricky one. |
| 23:04.48 | beandog | How can you modify the CSS on an input type of file |
| 23:04.53 | beandog | if it has both a text box an a submit button/ |
| 23:04.54 | beandog | ? |
| 23:07.00 | PoeticIntensity | text box *and* a submit button? |
| 23:07.03 | PoeticIntensity | on the same input? |
| 23:07.06 | PoeticIntensity | not sure that's possible. |
| 23:07.36 | PoeticIntensity | I'm sure, if it's just a "file" type of input, that can be modified by CSS just like all other input types. |
| 23:08.18 | beandog | right |
| 23:08.25 | beandog | but if you do color: black |
| 23:08.30 | beandog | does it affect the input box or the button? |
| 23:08.36 | beandog | do <input type='file'> |
| 23:08.38 | beandog | you'll see it |
| 23:11.18 | PoeticIntensity | aaaahhhhhhhhhh. |
| 23:11.25 | PoeticIntensity | no idea, dude. |
| 23:11.27 | PoeticIntensity | try it and see. |
| 23:11.47 | beandog | http://www.quirksmode.org/dom/inputfile.html |
| 23:19.10 | timinator | I'm outie.... later guys |
| 23:19.15 | beandog | seeya tim |
| 23:21.50 | Lone_Wanderer | What are my options as far as bundling a bunch of mp3's together into a single download? |
| 23:21.52 | Lone_Wanderer | Do I just have to use the zip library? |
| 23:22.10 | beandog | unless you wanna gz them |
| 23:22.48 | beandog | or bzip them |
| 23:22.59 | Lone_Wanderer | gz works too but I doubt most users have the option of gunzipping. |
| 23:23.00 | beandog | I cant remember the status of zip though |
| 23:23.07 | beandog | if you can only unpack |
| 23:23.08 | beandog | or pack |
| 23:23.58 | beandog | depends a lot on the version, really |
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| 23:25.48 | PoeticIntensity | I'm OUTTA here! |
| 23:25.51 | PoeticIntensity | chao all! |
| 23:26.46 | Lone_Wanderer | It's spelled ciao. |
| 23:26.55 | beandog | in spanish? |
| 23:26.58 | beandog | wouldnt it be chau |
| 23:27.14 | Lone_Wanderer | I think it's Italian. |
| 23:27.23 | beandog | well they still say it in spanish. :B |
| 23:27.32 | beandog | chau, nos vemos |
| 23:27.38 | thebigdog | ok vos |
| 23:27.46 | beandog | vos sos. |
| 23:27.56 | thebigdog | quien sos vos? |
| 23:28.02 | beandog | veni, che |
| 23:28.14 | thebigdog | bale, che |
| 23:28.16 | thebigdog | bale |
| 23:28.22 | thebigdog | te pego che |
| 23:28.26 | thebigdog | watchale che |
| 23:28.37 | thebigdog | ^ texmex |
| 23:28.49 | beandog | thebigdog: you know castellano? |
| 23:28.58 | thebigdog | how you forget beandog |
| 23:29.03 | beandog | I do. |
| 23:29.04 | thebigdog | i served in the same country you did |
| 23:29.29 | beandog | thebigdog: which area |
| 23:29.35 | thebigdog | neuquen |
| 23:29.40 | beandog | bah. |
| 23:29.42 | mgeary | ciao |
| 23:29.48 | beandog | I'm sure weve had this conversation before then. |
| 23:29.48 | mgeary | not chow |
| 23:29.57 | thebigdog | yes atleast twice now |
| 23:30.01 | beandog | buh. |
| 23:30.06 | beandog | -_- |
| 23:30.12 | thebigdog | ~smack beandog |
| 23:30.26 | jbot | ACTION smacks beandog upside the head. |
| 23:30.49 | thebigdog | i dont think we discussed the cities though |
| 23:30.57 | beandog | hmm okay |
| 23:31.00 | beandog | which cities |
| 23:31.08 | thebigdog | you can check the site |
| 23:31.10 | thebigdog | :) |
| 23:31.25 | beandog | listo |
| 23:31.39 | thebigdog | allen, neuquen, bariloche, esquel, com. riva., pico truncado |
| 23:31.44 | thebigdog | los kilometros |
| 23:31.48 | thebigdog | and some others |
| 23:31.55 | beandog | man |
| 23:31.58 | beandog | I was in three cities. |
| 23:32.01 | thebigdog | i opend a couple of them |
| 23:32.06 | beandog | Esquel, 25 de Mayo, Neuquen |
| 23:32.11 | beandog | spent a year in Neuquen |
| 23:32.20 | beandog | well, my entire 2nd year. |
| 23:32.25 | beandog | 4 months in the office, 8 months in one area |
| 23:32.28 | thebigdog | yeah i opened that one |
| 23:32.29 | beandog | good times. |
| 23:32.46 | thebigdog | it was closed for a number of years |
| 23:32.56 | thebigdog | like 5-10...cant remember |
| 23:33.08 | beandog | crazy. |
| 23:33.13 | thebigdog | and pico i opened again after missionaries not being there for like 10-20 years |
| 23:33.26 | thebigdog | i had good times in esquel |
| 23:33.34 | thebigdog | that was like my 3rd area |
| 23:33.41 | beandog | Ive got a lot of mixed feelings about Esquel |
| 23:34.21 | beandog | good times though |
| 23:34.34 | thebigdog | it was a tough area for me |
| 23:34.40 | thebigdog | cut my teeth on the lang there |
| 23:34.51 | thebigdog | learned how much i hated dogs |
| 23:35.03 | beandog | I could speak the language fine, I just had a hard time understanding their accent |
| 23:35.05 | thebigdog | and how much i loved bariloche |
| 23:35.10 | thebigdog | lol |
| 23:35.18 | beandog | that was really frustrating. |
| 23:35.30 | beandog | everybody understood me, just not the other way around. |
| 23:35.33 | beandog | ah well. |
| 23:35.34 | beandog | :) |
| 23:35.47 | thebigdog | it took me 3 months to really get it all down |
| 23:35.47 | beandog | Esquel was pretty rought ... 4 companions in 4 months. |
| 23:35.52 | beandog | my first area |
| 23:35.56 | beandog | It was the middle of winter when I got there |
| 23:35.57 | thebigdog | yeah i had 3 comps there |
| 23:36.03 | thebigdog | lol |
| 23:36.04 | thebigdog | same here |
| 23:36.07 | beandog | man. |
| 23:36.29 | thebigdog | and we had a crappy apartment the size of my bathroom here |
| 23:36.40 | beandog | I always had a great apartment |
| 23:36.41 | beandog | heh |
| 23:36.42 | beandog | I got lucky. |
| 23:36.48 | beandog | the office one was the best, obviously |
| 23:36.49 | beandog | :D |
| 23:36.51 | thebigdog | in com riva i had the best |
| 23:36.56 | thebigdog | carpet, phone |
| 23:36.57 | thebigdog | yeah |
| 23:36.59 | beandog | except when you had 40 elders sleeping the night. |
| 23:37.05 | beandog | that wasn't so fun. |
| 23:37.05 | thebigdog | lol |
| 23:37.40 | Lone_Wanderer | Firefox is so slow on this computer. |
| 23:37.45 | Lone_Wanderer | I'm not terribly happy with it these days. |
| 23:37.57 | beandog | the computer or firefox |
| 23:38.05 | Lone_Wanderer | firefox |
| 23:38.08 | thebigdog | beandog, too bad you didnt get down the other side of the pepper |
| 23:38.09 | beandog | I also had a washing machine in every apt. but one |
| 23:38.11 | Lone_Wanderer | maybe I just need to get a new irc client |
| 23:38.26 | thebigdog | beandog: i had sisters for that |
| 23:38.27 | thebigdog | :) |
| 23:38.37 | beandog | oh man, there was one area in neuquen where our landlord had a huge dog |
| 23:38.44 | beandog | his name was Capitan |
| 23:38.49 | thebigdog | lol |
| 23:38.50 | beandog | and he was the biggest idiot Id ever seen. |
| 23:39.00 | beandog | our aprtment was inside their gate |
| 23:39.07 | thebigdog | my fav area we had a landlord that was an old italian |
| 23:39.07 | beandog | And I remember one night, we woke up at like 2 a.m. |
| 23:39.13 | beandog | because we heard something banging on the fence outside |
| 23:39.16 | beandog | for like half an hour |
| 23:39.27 | beandog | and then we hear the family go outisde and they are SCREAMING |
| 23:39.31 | Lone_Wanderer | ~lart "legal" messages in emails. |
| 23:39.31 | jbot | explains, ever so gently, that if "legal" messages in emails. doesn't give the channel more information, they can't help |
| 23:39.37 | beandog | we had no idea what was going on, so didnt bother getting up |
| 23:39.44 | Lone_Wanderer | "This message (including any attachments) contains confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose, and is protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, you should delete this message. Any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this message, or the taking of any action based on it, is strictly prohibited" |
| 23:40.01 | beandog | when we went outside the next morning, there was a 50 pound dog sitting in our doorstep outside. We both scared the crap out of each other. |
| 23:40.16 | thebigdog | lol |
| 23:40.19 | beandog | Apparently the family had taken him on a trip and the dog got lost, and found his way back home like 8 weeks later |
| 23:40.33 | thebigdog | nice |
| 23:40.45 | beandog | He was fun though. We'd feed him and play with him |
| 23:40.53 | mgeary | pshaw |
| 23:40.58 | beandog | but he hated it when we would leave, and he'd attack us when wed go for the gate |
| 23:41.08 | Lone_Wanderer | lol |
| 23:41.08 | beandog | we would literally have to fight him off with our handbags just to get out |
| 23:41.14 | Lone_Wanderer | how big was he? |
| 23:41.15 | beandog | like smack him a couple times |
| 23:41.24 | Lone_Wanderer | and what kind of dog? |
| 23:41.26 | beandog | pretty big |
| 23:41.29 | beandog | I dunno, some mutt |
| 23:41.34 | beandog | Ive never seen anything like him before or after. |
| 23:41.36 | mgeary | 50 pounds isn't big for a dog |
| 23:41.37 | bradym | ~lart html files with 25000 lines |
| 23:41.37 | jbot | hurls dozens of incontinent, insomniac, hungry kittens with tiny little razor-sharp claws and a wide variety of contagious intestinal parasites at html files with 25000 lines |
| 23:41.47 | beandog | Well he was about 3 feet tall at least |
| 23:41.50 | Lone_Wanderer | 50 pounds is pretty big I think mgeary |
| 23:41.52 | beandog | he was huge though |
| 23:41.54 | Lone_Wanderer | that's like the size of a malamute |
| 23:41.56 | Lone_Wanderer | iirc |
| 23:42.00 | mgeary | Lone_Wanderer: my dog is 72 pounds |
| 23:42.04 | mgeary | and less than 3 feet high |
| 23:42.05 | Lone_Wanderer | what kind is it? |
| 23:42.06 | beandog | and he had these funky light blue eyes |
| 23:42.08 | beandog | it was weird. |
| 23:42.19 | beandog | I think he was a little mental, too. |
| 23:42.25 | beandog | good ol Capitan. |
| 23:42.39 | thebigdog | i always threw rocks at my landlord's dog |
| 23:42.53 | beandog | heh |
| 23:42.55 | beandog | I only got bit once by a dog. |
| 23:43.03 | beandog | and it was because he was hiding under a car. |
| 23:43.04 | thebigdog | lol |
| 23:43.09 | thebigdog | i got you beat on that one |
| 23:43.18 | thebigdog | but i want tell cause it is embarrasing |
| 23:43.18 | beandog | he ripped my pant leg open too |
| 23:43.32 | mgeary | my dog looks very similar to this: |
| 23:43.32 | mgeary | http://www.saveadog.org.au/images/photos/red(heeler)2.jpg |
| 23:43.42 | beandog | 404 |
| 23:43.53 | beandog | I only had one dog that was really scary chase after me |
| 23:43.55 | beandog | and he was rabid |
| 23:43.55 | thebigdog | cut n paste beandog |
| 23:44.09 | beandog | still wouldnt go away after I pelted him with like 6 rocks |
| 23:44.14 | beandog | ah |
| 23:44.30 | beandog | that was scary. |
| 23:44.31 | tierra | beandog: grab the whole URL (including the parenthesis) |
| 23:44.44 | beandog | The funny part was that my companion was on the completely other side of the street, and I was like ... "what in the world is he doing?" |
| 23:44.49 | mgeary | better: |
| 23:44.50 | mgeary | http://www.talihocattledogs.com/images/dames-reddi2.jpg |
| 23:44.50 | beandog | then I see this foaming dog start to attack me |
| 23:44.56 | mgeary | though mine is a bit stouter |
| 23:45.01 | mgeary | but they're *dense* dogs |
| 23:45.08 | mgeary | not stupid |
| 23:45.17 | beandog | he kind of looked like that, but a lot less fur |
| 23:45.24 | mgeary | dense, like lead is dense |
| 23:45.35 | beandog | :( |
| 23:46.37 | thebigdog | beandog, remind me to tell you when i got hauled to jail in com. riva |
| 23:46.46 | thebigdog | if i ever make it to a lunch |
| 23:46.50 | beandog | lol |
| 23:46.52 | beandog | ok |
| 23:47.05 | beandog | google calculator++ |
| 23:47.23 | thebigdog | i think i got in the most trouble on my mission |
| 23:47.32 | beandog | on purpose? :) |
| 23:47.43 | thebigdog | nope |
| 23:47.43 | beandog | probably the worst thing I did was watch TRON |
| 23:49.09 | beandog | Lone_Wanderer: you got piccies of your dog anywhere we can see? |
| 23:49.45 | beandog | thebigdog: aside from getting hauled to jail? |
| 23:49.49 | thebigdog | i watched the oklahoma city bombing stuff in a kiosko once |
| 23:50.24 | thebigdog | shot a 22 gun |
| 23:50.35 | beandog | Actually I was more of a jerk in the MTC than anything else. |
| 23:50.55 | beandog | which I didnt like at all. |
| 23:50.59 | beandog | well, parts of it. |
| 23:51.20 | thebigdog | same here...i got some great stories in the mtc |
| 23:51.32 | beandog | shot a gun? thats not bad. |
| 23:52.15 | beandog | :) |
| 23:52.31 | thebigdog | y |
| 23:52.43 | beandog | my first area was definately the worst. |
| 23:52.47 | beandog | my trainer left after a week and a half. |
| 23:52.53 | thebigdog | ouch |
| 23:53.01 | beandog | my 2nd companion was an AP for 9 months, and he was going home in a week |
| 23:53.04 | thebigdog | my first 3 comps were lazy |
| 23:53.11 | beandog | my 3rd companion I had about 3 weeks I think |
| 23:53.24 | beandog | it was pretty nuts. |
| 23:53.35 | Lone_Wanderer | beandog: Not yet, I don't have a camera to take them with. |
| 23:54.20 | thebigdog | i had alot of comps on my mission...i think 26 if i remember correctly |
| 23:54.28 | beandog | 26? |
| 23:54.30 | beandog | holy crap. |
| 23:54.32 | thebigdog | i would have to double check...but over 20 |
| 23:54.44 | beandog | I had one companion for 5 months |
| 23:54.47 | beandog | that was great. |
| 23:55.07 | thebigdog | i was a babysitter most of my mission |
| 23:55.23 | thebigdog | i had missionaries that were given a last chance until sent home |
| 23:55.29 | beandog | heh |
| 23:55.37 | beandog | so did you send them home? |
| 23:55.38 | thebigdog | that is why i opened up new areas too |
| 23:55.54 | beandog | I hate knocking doors. Oh man. |
| 23:55.56 | beandog | I sucked at that. |
| 23:55.56 | thebigdog | nope...they usually got to work with me |
| 23:56.04 | beandog | or clapping |
| 23:56.13 | thebigdog | love/hate here |
| 23:56.41 | beandog | actually the worst part was working during the siesta. |
| 23:56.44 | beandog | heh |
| 23:56.49 | thebigdog | lol that sucked |
| 23:56.52 | thebigdog | or staying awake |
| 23:56.58 | beandog | "oh, were you asleep?" |
| 23:57.03 | beandog | "No, no, I was just resting" |
| 23:57.04 | beandog | gah. |
| 23:57.11 | beandog | that wasn't awkward. |
| 23:57.32 | thebigdog | i loved teaching during the siesta...cause i would do the head-bob thing |
| 23:58.00 | beandog | man |
| 23:58.07 | beandog | it was so hard after the members would give you this huge lunch too |
| 23:58.21 | thebigdog | the problem was you worked so much that when you sat down your body thought it was time to sleep not teach |
| 23:58.30 | beandog | heh, yahp |
| 23:58.57 | beandog | man the hardest thing for me was ignoring the TV |
| 23:59.14 | thebigdog | i just always told them to turn it off |
| 23:59.28 | thebigdog | i loved when big matches of soccer were on though |
| 23:59.37 | thebigdog | i loved knocking doors then |
| 23:59.39 | beandog | heh |
| 23:59.44 | thebigdog | cause you can get in easier |
| 23:59.53 | thebigdog | you tell them your a fan and they loved talking |
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