| 00:17.49 | Lone_Wanderer | Holy cow that was awesome. |
| 01:10.49 | thebigdog | anyone around? |
| 01:10.56 | thebigdog | what was the youtube url again? |
| 01:14.07 | thebigdog | ~urls |
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| 03:53.48 | mgeary | anyone around? |
| 03:57.01 | burnin | nope |
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| 13:01.03 | timinator | mornin' |
| 13:05.35 | jsmith | Good morning timinator |
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| 13:17.41 | elg | morning. anyone up? |
| 13:17.53 | timinator | yessir |
| 13:18.06 | elg | I have a form with an input with name productOptions[] |
| 13:18.16 | jsmith | Morning elg |
| 13:18.22 | elg | and all the various options are just numerical values |
| 13:19.00 | elg | so the color option is a select box with the name productOptions[] and the font box is a select with the name productOptions[], etc. |
| 13:19.26 | elg | I want to make a dummy form with inputs of type hidden that I can populate with javascript |
| 13:20.04 | elg | if f is the object for the form, do I just do |
| 13:20.12 | elg | f.productOptions = some_array? |
| 13:21.25 | jsmith | document.forms.f.productOptions, I think... |
| 13:21.41 | elg | right, f = document.forms.formname |
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| 13:23.02 | timinator | mornin herlo |
| 13:23.22 | herlo | timinator: hey |
| 13:24.21 | timinator | mmmm |
| 13:33.31 | jsmith | timinator: My wife and I are eating Girl Scout cookies for breakfast |
| 13:34.14 | timinator | mmmmm |
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| 13:36.58 | herlo | jsmith: very nice |
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| 13:51.09 | timinator | for sure |
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| 14:38.42 | _psychic_ | aw yeah SRV |
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| 14:48.11 | thebigdog | ~congrats wps |
| 14:48.40 | wps | interesting… not normally a big Green Day fan… but I really like that one |
| 14:49.14 | _psychic_ | I'm not going to be a green day fan until they come up with a new chord progression. |
| 14:49.23 | thebigdog | lol |
| 14:49.28 | dataw0lf | wps: hehe, that's funny |
| 14:53.30 | fungus | I like "Holiday" by Madonna better. |
| 14:54.11 | wps | hmm… I am not sure if I am familiar with that one |
| 14:54.21 | wps | fungus: do you like Confessions on a Dance Floor? |
| 14:55.30 | fungus | What?! "Holiday" is old school Madonna. Self titled album in 1983. |
| 14:55.40 | dataw0lf | first Madonna hit |
| 14:55.51 | fungus | It's ok, but I like her old stuff better. |
| 14:56.15 | wps | I'm not as familiar with her pyramid bra days |
| 14:56.30 | fungus | This was pre-pyramid bra. |
| 14:56.34 | wps | ah |
| 14:57.13 | fungus | But I loved the pyramid bra days too. :) |
| 14:57.22 | wps | ah… holiday! |
| 14:57.22 | Lone_Wanderer | pyramid bra days? |
| 14:57.25 | wps | duh… I know this song |
| 14:57.33 | fungus | Yeah, I thought so |
| 14:57.36 | wps | this song is WAY too eighties for me |
| 14:57.45 | wps | way… way… way… |
| 14:57.46 | Lone_Wanderer | ohhh, Madonna. |
| 14:58.23 | wps | best name for her eclectic braziers I could think of on the spot |
| 14:59.52 | Lone_Wanderer | yeah |
| 14:59.55 | Lone_Wanderer | Does the "cheap, fast, good: pick any two" rule have a name? |
| 15:00.21 | wps | the what? |
| 15:00.32 | Lone_Wanderer | Cheap, Fast, Good: Pick any two. |
| 15:00.38 | Lone_Wanderer | For software development and movies. |
| 15:01.09 | dataw0lf | triple constraint? |
| 15:04.51 | Lone_Wanderer | dangit I need beandog to log on so I can tell him the Jedi fight video was pretty good |
| 15:05.07 | Lone_Wanderer | and I'm too lazy to walk into the other room and tell him to log on so I can tell him how awesome it was |
| 15:05.19 | Lone_Wanderer | http://youtube.com/watch?v=I2ZIozw2Ipo if you haven't seen it yet |
| 15:05.46 | Utah_Dave | Lone_Wanderer: how many of you guys are working at codegreene? |
| 15:12.00 | Lone_Wanderer | me, Mac, beandog, and dragonleech (who's not here much and is pretty quiet when he is) |
| 15:12.21 | Lone_Wanderer | Which leaves three employees who don't hang out here. But we do not speak of them. |
| 15:12.42 | Lone_Wanderer | For they are unclean. Unwashed in the waters of the #uphpu. |
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| 15:21.41 | _psychic_ | Lone_Wanderer: oh that's well done |
| 15:22.03 | Lone_Wanderer | Yeah, there are a few parts where they hesitate just a bit |
| 15:22.09 | wps | needs a little more energy though |
| 15:22.23 | Lone_Wanderer | or go just a touch slower than they would be in a real fight. but overall it's really good. |
| 15:22.35 | _psychic_ | fo sho |
| 15:22.44 | _psychic_ | good choreography |
| 15:22.45 | wps | they're a little too relaxed in portions |
| 15:22.50 | _psychic_ | true |
| 15:22.59 | wps | you would be more aggressive if you were in a real fight to the death |
| 15:23.12 | _psychic_ | but stellar for two dudes that age |
| 15:23.29 | Lone_Wanderer | wps: That was my thought as well. |
| 15:25.37 | wps | and it bothers me how the black shirted fellow has his non-sword-weilding hand behind his back most of the time |
| 15:25.52 | wps | impressive though for an amateur video for sure |
| 15:25.57 | Lone_Wanderer | That's a standard fencing rule. |
| 15:26.13 | wps | true… but you don't see it in the star wars flicks |
| 15:26.20 | wps | didn't feel star wars-ish to me |
| 15:26.33 | Lone_Wanderer | Well, you don't see people wielding a light saber with one hand much either. |
| 15:26.50 | Lone_Wanderer | Which never made sense to me. Why wield something that apparently weighs about as much as a flashlight like a broadsword? |
| 15:27.26 | dataw0lf | the assumption that it's pure light is probably a false one |
| 15:27.35 | dataw0lf | it's probably some sort of force field inhibited plasma |
| 15:27.45 | dataw0lf | which may or may not have some sort of mass |
| 15:27.46 | Lone_Wanderer | Right, but sure. |
| 15:27.47 | wps | not that I'd really know though… I would be about the last person on this planet that would be in the know on things star wars-ish |
| 15:27.52 | Lone_Wanderer | I mean... right, but still. |
| 15:28.17 | _psychic_ | ha |
| 15:28.19 | Lone_Wanderer | A rod of contained plasma can't weigh *that* much, and these are Jedi we're talking about. |
| 15:28.23 | _psychic_ | there's a ryan v. dorkman 2 |
| 15:28.46 | _psychic_ | I think the feather weight makes the weapon graceful |
| 15:29.02 | Lone_Wanderer | So why hold it with two hands? |
| 15:29.21 | _psychic_ | to withstand the impact during melee |
| 15:29.31 | Lone_Wanderer | One of the primary reasons the rapier was popular is because it was light and quick. |
| 15:29.37 | dataw0lf | and to prevent from being disarmed via the force |
| 15:29.52 | Lone_Wanderer | Two words: Wrist Lanyard. |
| 15:30.02 | _psychic_ | lol |
| 15:30.45 | _psychic_ | Jedi's don't wear "wrist lanyards" nor fanny packs, regardless of the combat advantage. |
| 15:30.54 | dataw0lf | jedis regularly throw their lightssabers, wrist lanyards would be an impediment |
| 15:30.57 | _psychic_ | That's like chapter 1 verse 1 of the Jedi Bible. Its gotta be. |
| 15:31.05 | Lone_Wanderer | Yeah, they would be seriously geeky. |
| 15:31.41 | Lone_Wanderer | If I were a jedi, I'd have three mini-light sabers per hand |
| 15:31.51 | Lone_Wanderer | mounted on the back of my hands like Wolverine's claws |
| 15:32.15 | dataw0lf | whoa, the sequel is even better |
| 15:32.18 | _psychic_ | oh yeah |
| 15:32.19 | _psychic_ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-is63goeBgc |
| 15:33.08 | _psychic_ | I love it when he drags his saber through the water |
| 15:35.51 | wps | how is there a sequel? didn't they die? |
| 15:36.02 | wps | ooo… he has a mustache in this one!!! |
| 15:36.17 | wps | the energy in this one is much better |
| 15:36.36 | _psychic_ | so are the effects |
| 15:36.41 | wps | yes |
| 15:36.44 | _psychic_ | they just about melt that wall to slag |
| 15:36.45 | wps | and videography |
| 15:38.10 | Lone_Wanderer | rofl |
| 15:38.33 | Lone_Wanderer | I love the part where he's force-pulling the light saber towards him and the other guy moves his hand so it smacks him in the face |
| 15:39.35 | wps | need better costumes |
| 15:39.39 | _psychic_ | I like it when they toss the saber for just a half sec |
| 15:39.40 | wps | that baggy t-shirt looks stupid |
| 15:40.14 | _psychic_ | wps: its a sequel to an amateur film, that's on purpose |
| 15:40.52 | _psychic_ | original soundtrack, that's cool |
| 15:43.47 | Lone_Wanderer | Well that was pretty good. |
| 15:44.27 | Lone_Wanderer | Now if they can only write dialog, create believable characters, and put together an engrossing plot, they'll have it made. |
| 15:45.04 | wps | true… they don't say anything, do they? |
| 15:45.06 | wps | weird |
| 15:45.19 | Lone_Wanderer | Well, I wouldn't say anything either if I were trying to kill someone. |
| 15:45.44 | _psychic_ | whatever, I'll watch another 10 minutes of silent fighting :) |
| 15:46.10 | Lone_Wanderer | I meant if they wanted to make a full-length movie though. |
| 15:47.11 | wps | why would he have picked the name "Dorkman?" |
| 15:47.33 | _psychic_ | ... |
| 15:49.16 | Lone_Wanderer | Yeah, I would've gone with "Geekboy" personally. |
| 15:49.30 | thebigdog | or bigdog at the least |
| 15:52.16 | _psychic_ | wps: you want to make it into something it wasn't meant to be |
| 15:52.53 | Lone_Wanderer | I'm extremely tempted to say that he didn't pick the name "Dorkman?" :D |
| 15:56.11 | Lone_Wanderer | I love that feelin. |
| 15:56.12 | Lone_Wanderer | g. |
| 15:56.26 | wps | I love watching my little girl do that everything morning |
| 15:56.28 | wps | it's really cute |
| 15:56.49 | wps | I get her out of the crib and lay her on the changing table and her limbs shoot out like a star fish as she stretches in every direction |
| 15:57.29 | _psychic_ | :) |
| 15:58.32 | Lone_Wanderer | :) how old is she? |
| 15:58.50 | Lone_Wanderer | And have you begun honing your assassin skills so you can knock off anyone who tries to date her? |
| 15:59.10 | Lone_Wanderer | You've got less than sixteen years to go man, you'd better get going. |
| 16:00.11 | _psychic_ | A good shotgun can go a long ways towards assassin skills these days. |
| 16:00.43 | Lone_Wanderer | You could go with the General Patton school of defending your daughters from jerks. |
| 16:00.51 | Lone_Wanderer | I think it was Patton who said "The best defense is a good offense". |
| 16:01.12 | Lone_Wanderer | Either him or Lou, the cook on Alice. |
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| 16:26.16 | Lone_Wanderer | How do I make a select only get one row per unique value? |
| 16:26.33 | thebigdog | distinct? |
| 16:26.40 | Lone_Wanderer | ahh, I was using unique |
| 16:47.12 | thebigdog | Lone_Wanderer, did that work for ya? |
| 16:47.22 | timinator | something like this: http://www.impactguns.com/store/PI1759203.html |
| 16:47.31 | Lone_Wanderer | thebigdog: yes thanks :) |
| 16:47.36 | thebigdog | cool |
| 16:47.54 | Lone_Wanderer | timinator: They're going to be carrying them, or you are? |
| 16:48.39 | timinator | I'll be cleaning it when they try to pick my daughter(s) up |
| 16:48.52 | Lone_Wanderer | Gotcha. |
| 16:49.01 | Lone_Wanderer | You know, being girls, that they won't be ready on time. |
| 16:49.20 | Lone_Wanderer | So you can just invite him in, have a seat at the table here, let's have a quick chat. |
| 16:49.32 | timinator | ya, I'll have a little time :) |
| 16:49.40 | thebigdog | Lone_Wanderer, what db are you on? |
| 16:49.57 | timinator | I'm working on my monologue now |
| 16:50.15 | Lone_Wanderer | Timed correctly so that you're just finishing it up when she's ready to go. Ideally he should hear the sharp clack of a round being chambered just as he leaves. |
| 16:50.20 | Lone_Wanderer | So he's got that sound in his head the entire night. |
| 16:50.31 | timinator | LOL.... for shure |
| 16:50.37 | timinator | s/shure/sure/ |
| 16:50.58 | Lone_Wanderer | Your daughters are going to hate you :D |
| 16:51.19 | thebigdog | it sucks having a teenage daughter |
| 16:51.20 | timinator | I'll be playing Nickelback softly in the background.... that song about carving your name in a bullet |
| 16:53.01 | timinator | is your daughter dating then thebigdog? |
| 16:53.19 | thebigdog | yep |
| 16:53.22 | thebigdog | she is 16 |
| 16:53.27 | Lone_Wanderer | "How are your kids doing?" "Well, it looks like my oldest daughter is going to die :(" "Oh no, what's wrong?" "Well, she's sixteen, and I think I'm going to kill her." |
| 16:53.40 | thebigdog | tell me about it |
| 16:53.41 | timinator | LW: LOL |
| 16:54.06 | timinator | thebigdog: so how do you handle the BFs? |
| 16:54.31 | thebigdog | i tell them that if they do anything wrong or that i disapprove of i will kill them |
| 16:54.35 | thebigdog | plain and simple |
| 16:54.42 | thebigdog | with full conviction |
| 16:54.57 | thebigdog | and i dont have a problem going to jail for it |
| 16:55.01 | Lone_Wanderer | How many of them stick around? |
| 16:55.02 | thebigdog | they get the point |
| 16:55.06 | thebigdog | not many |
| 16:55.14 | thebigdog | just the other day i had to give one the boot |
| 16:55.24 | Lone_Wanderer | Has your daughter threatened patricide yet? |
| 16:55.54 | dataw0lf | dang, I remember when she was like 13 |
| 16:55.57 | thebigdog | nope and she wont cause im good to my kids...meaning if they obey and get good grades they get many benefits |
| 16:55.58 | dataw0lf | almost there... |
| 16:56.02 | Lone_Wanderer | That was what, three years ago? :p |
| 16:56.21 | timinator | LOL |
| 16:56.22 | thebigdog | if not then they dont get nothing |
| 16:56.38 | thebigdog | yeah those years sucked |
| 16:56.48 | thebigdog | 11-14 were the worst with her |
| 16:57.01 | thebigdog | junior high really sucks for girls im coming to find out |
| 16:57.24 | timinator | when will your next one hit JR High? |
| 16:57.29 | thebigdog | guy we only care about 1 thing...so we dont have time for anything else |
| 16:57.46 | thebigdog | in about 4 years |
| 16:57.49 | thebigdog | she is 8 |
| 16:57.56 | thebigdog | and i figure she will be my worst one |
| 16:58.22 | thebigdog | overall i think my 8yr old will be the kid that i "REALLY" want to kill |
| 16:58.41 | thebigdog | my oldest is actually really pleasant...just a follower and not a leader |
| 16:58.51 | thebigdog | my 8yr is a leader |
| 16:59.07 | thebigdog | and has my personality |
| 16:59.12 | timinator | :) |
| 16:59.14 | Lone_Wanderer | Introduce her to some feminist nutjobs. |
| 16:59.22 | Lone_Wanderer | At about 12. |
| 16:59.26 | thebigdog | yeah |
| 16:59.37 | Lone_Wanderer | If you're lucky she'll go on an anti-man crusade until she turns 21 or so. |
| 16:59.46 | thebigdog | that would be great |
| 16:59.56 | timinator | fo sho |
| 17:01.22 | thebigdog | the hardest part with teenagers is talking with them and watching them do dumba** things |
| 17:03.20 | Lone_Wanderer | You know how teenagers know everything, and if you disagree with them then you clearly just aren't as familiar with the issue as they are? |
| 17:03.32 | Lone_Wanderer | I have a friend who's still like that at 25. |
| 17:03.40 | thebigdog | lol |
| 17:03.49 | Lone_Wanderer | s/friend/ex-girlfriend/ |
| 17:03.54 | Lone_Wanderer | an* |
| 17:20.21 | Lone_Wanderer | It did :) |
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| 17:23.43 | thebigdog | Lone_Wanderer, what db are you using? |
| 17:23.53 | Lone_Wanderer | MySQL |
| 17:33.15 | thebigdog | oh |
| 17:33.36 | thebigdog | i was going to say if you are using pgsql you can use the distinct on columns too |
| 17:33.42 | thebigdog | not sure if mysql supports that or not |
| 17:34.00 | thebigdog | like select distinct on (col1, col2) col1, col2, col3 from table; |
| 17:38.48 | PoeticIntensity | holy crap, thebigdog, are you serious? |
| 17:38.56 | PoeticIntensity | distinct on columns would make my life 1000% better. |
| 17:39.07 | thebigdog | yeah it rocks in psql |
| 17:39.12 | thebigdog | i use it all the time |
| 17:39.25 | thebigdog | kinda like a semi unique key on it |
| 17:39.38 | thebigdog | in joins it really shines |
| 17:39.42 | PoeticIntensity | nice. |
| 17:39.59 | PoeticIntensity | pgsql++ |
| 17:53.30 | tierra | "Is Microsoft Dead?" ... you know, the BYUMUG list is just as bad as PLUG sometimes, only without the flamewars |
| 17:54.55 | Lone_Wanderer | heh, did they post the Paul Graham essay? |
| 17:56.38 | tierra | They both love to feed on the latest overblown/overhyped tech news (the stuff that gets posted in hopes of bringing in some revenue, not because it's newsworthy)... both lists sit and speculate the future of companies and tech despite lack of experience and knowledge in the field, only PLUG usually turns into flamewars while BYUMUG just continues meaningless speculation |
| 17:57.12 | tierra | yes, it's the Paul Graham essay |
| 18:09.31 | Lone_Wanderer | I can sum it up. |
| 18:09.40 | Lone_Wanderer | Microsoft's stranglehold over innovation is dead. |
| 18:09.50 | dataw0lf | ... |
| 18:09.55 | dataw0lf | Microsoft never innovated anything. |
| 18:09.55 | Lone_Wanderer | Yay Google. Yay Mac. Apply for the Summer Founders program. |
| 18:10.26 | Utah_Dave | I have a users table and a schedule table |
| 18:10.26 | Utah_Dave | Each user has multiple schedules. Each schedule has an effective date |
| 18:10.26 | Utah_Dave | I'm trying to put together a query that gives me the userid, username and all the fields from schedule table |
| 18:10.33 | Lone_Wanderer | No but it used to be that if you started a startup (think 80's and early 90's) you had to worry about Microsoft buying a crappy competitor, hyping the product and undercutting you, and driving you out of business. |
| 18:10.57 | Utah_Dave | but only for the schedule with the most recent effective date for each user |
| 18:11.21 | Utah_Dave | I've tried several different angles, but can't seem to get it just right |
| 18:11.41 | Utah_Dave | any ideas? |
| 18:12.28 | mindjuju | subquery should be able to get that |
| 18:12.37 | Lone_Wanderer | Okay this may not help at all but |
| 18:12.53 | Lone_Wanderer | order by the schedule's date and limit it to one row? |
| 18:13.29 | Utah_Dave | mindjuju: I've tried subqueries, but maybe I'm doing them wrong |
| 18:13.53 | Utah_Dave | Lone_Wanderer: that's close, but if I have 14 users, I want to get 14 rows |
| 18:14.03 | Utah_Dave | let me pastebin what I have so far |
| 18:14.07 | Utah_Dave | ~pastebin |
| 18:14.19 | jbot | rumour has it, pastebin is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.ca, or http://channels.debian.net/paste, or http://rafb.net/paste/, or http://pastebin.com is usually painfully too slow and unresponsive to use, use one of the other pastebin sites, or dpaste.com is a very nice pastebin as well |
| 18:16.57 | Utah_Dave | http://rafb.net/p/ftzzet16.html |
| 18:17.16 | Utah_Dave | the problem with that is that I don't get any information back from the suquery |
| 18:17.22 | Utah_Dave | just the schedules |
| 18:17.42 | mindjuju | is this for mysql? |
| 18:18.00 | Utah_Dave | yes, MySQL 5.027 |
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| 19:46.47 | Lone_Wanderer | Someone please kill me. |
| 19:46.58 | Lone_Wanderer | I just read the phrase "Blogga please". |
| 19:47.24 | Lone_Wanderer | While this is a less serious infraction than "N-word please", I nevertheless do not believe I can go on. |
| 19:47.46 | _psychic_ | hehe |
| 20:03.57 | mindjuju | yo, if your going to do an InnerJoin on 2 tables, where one table, you are returning all the fields and on the other table, just the fields you specified, it would look like this for mysql, right? |
| 20:03.58 | mindjuju | SELECT tblmyFirstTable.*, tblmySecondTable.username |
| 20:07.30 | thebigdog | you would probably want to select each column by name |
| 20:07.35 | thebigdog | or alias |
| 20:07.45 | thebigdog | Utah_Dave, what is the query you are working on? |
| 20:07.58 | mindjuju | he went out to lunch |
| 20:08.09 | Utah_Dave | I just got back |
| 20:08.27 | mindjuju | oh cool |
| 20:08.32 | Utah_Dave | I have a users' table and a schedule table |
| 20:08.53 | Utah_Dave | There are multiple schedules for each user in the schedule table. |
| 20:09.03 | Utah_Dave | mysql 5.027 |
| 20:09.15 | Utah_Dave | in the users' table there is a teamid |
| 20:09.21 | thebigdog | can you pastebin the ddl and the query you have |
| 20:09.35 | Utah_Dave | OK, just a minute |
| 20:11.27 | Utah_Dave | thebigdog: do you want the sql dump? |
| 20:13.11 | *** join/#uphpu mgeary (n=mgeary@166.70.44.49) |
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| 20:14.37 | thebigdog | the ddl would be fine too |
| 20:15.17 | Utah_Dave | what do you mean by ddl? |
| 20:15.35 | thebigdog | ddl = data definition lang |
| 20:15.39 | thebigdog | your create statements |
| 20:15.39 | Utah_Dave | /me's feels inferior before thebigdog |
| 20:15.43 | Utah_Dave | ok |
| 20:15.45 | Utah_Dave | gotcha |
| 20:16.47 | Utah_Dave | ok, here's the ddl |
| 20:16.49 | Utah_Dave | http://rafb.net/p/vHqCor39.html |
| 20:17.11 | thebigdog | so what do you want returned |
| 20:17.51 | Utah_Dave | I want the userid, first_name, last_name, and then all the fields from the tblSchedule |
| 20:18.18 | thebigdog | what about your where clause? |
| 20:18.37 | Utah_Dave | but I only want the schedule with the most recent effectiveDate before the current timestamp\ |
| 20:20.12 | thebigdog | ouch u have effectiveDate default to 0000-00-00 |
| 20:20.25 | Utah_Dave | http://rafb.net/p/b8hvOz47.html |
| 20:20.33 | Utah_Dave | that's what I've got up to the moment |
| 20:20.57 | Utah_Dave | this pretty much works, except it brings back all the schedules for the user. |
| 20:21.05 | thebigdog | yeah |
| 20:21.16 | Utah_Dave | I'm about to give up narrowing it down and just use PHP to pull out the correct schedule |
| 20:23.18 | Utah_Dave | Oh, and I only have the teamID |
| 20:23.18 | thebigdog | you probably need to use the timediff function with the effectivedt |
| 20:23.18 | thebigdog | and find which one is the smallest value |
| 20:23.18 | thebigdog | http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/date-and-time-functions.html#function_timediff |
| 20:23.19 | Utah_Dave | So basically, I want to hand the database the teamID and get back the users and their current schedules |
| 20:23.19 | Utah_Dave | Oh, that's a great idea |
| 20:23.25 | thebigdog | or timestampdiff |
| 20:24.23 | thebigdog | in psql you can use the math functions /w time which are great |
| 20:24.30 | thebigdog | and they have an overlap function that rocks |
| 20:24.38 | *** join/#uphpu fungus__ (n=fungus@mailhub.sosstaffing.com) |
| 20:25.06 | mindjuju | sup fungus__ |
| 20:25.16 | fungus__ | yo |
| 20:25.29 | mindjuju | check this out |
| 20:25.30 | mindjuju | http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070410-riaa-and-mpaa-copyright-holders-should-be-allowed-to-use-pretexting.html |
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| 20:27.23 | mindjuju | with them arguing stuff like that, it makes me real mad that any legislative person has any dealings with them |
| 20:41.04 | Lone_Wanderer | What's pretexting? |
| 20:41.36 | mgeary | anyone know a good resource to find local mid-level PHP developers for hire? Full-time, not contact work. Someone looking to make in the mid-40s... |
| 20:41.40 | Lone_Wanderer | The UPHPU list is the best one I know of. |
| 20:41.41 | mindjuju | That's when I call up your Cell phone, say my name is Lone_Wanderer and I ask for a list of the people i called |
| 20:42.00 | tierra | *cell phone company |
| 20:42.01 | mindjuju | sorry, mean to say your cell phone company |
| 20:42.02 | mindjuju | yeah |
| 20:42.19 | Utah_Dave | thebigdog: I'm trying to find the max of TIMESTAMPDIFF, should I be doing my GROUP BY on the userid? |
| 20:51.41 | Lone_Wanderer | mindjuju: Cingular won't ever give out specific call information over the phone. |
| 20:51.47 | Lone_Wanderer | You have to log onto the web site to get it. |
| 20:52.57 | mindjuju | Lone_Wanderer, there are whole businesses setup that specialize in obtaining this info |
| 20:53.05 | Utah_Dave | thebigdog: OK, I got MIN(TIMESTAMPDIFF(SECOND, tblSchedule.effectiveDate) in my select and it appears to return the smallest difference, but the data from the rest of the column is from another row |
| 20:54.52 | Lone_Wanderer | mindjuju: I'm sure you can get it, but not from a Cingular customer service agent over the phone :p |
| 20:55.38 | mindjuju | don't know enough about Cingular to contest, though the real issue is that it is obtained |
| 20:55.48 | mindjuju | that's the dangerous part |
| 20:56.11 | mindjuju | i should be the only one outside of the company i do business with, that should have access to that info, save the government with proper judicial paperwork |
| 20:56.36 | mindjuju | PIs now use pretexting if you suspect your significant other is cheating, to pull thier phone records and see who is being called |
| 21:02.02 | beandog | where the crap did they come up with the name pretexting |
| 21:02.07 | beandog | its social engineering |
| 21:02.10 | beandog | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:02.54 | mindjuju | well, it's illegal federally now as of Dec 2006 |
| 21:03.08 | beandog | like that's gonna stop anyone. |
| 21:03.09 | mgeary | pretext |ˈprēˌtekst |
| 21:03.09 | mgeary | noun a reason given in justification of a course of action that is not the real reason |
| 21:03.10 | mindjuju | and cali extended its law and punishment recently |
| 21:03.15 | beandog | :) |
| 21:04.31 | beandog | go read some stories on social engineering |
| 21:04.35 | beandog | amazing how fast you can get some information |
| 21:04.59 | beandog | just by pressuring someone / sympathizing / acting like you're authorized. |
| 21:05.02 | Lone_Wanderer | I used to be a customer service rep for Cingular. |
| 21:05.34 | beandog | or just go read Shizzy's emails, those are hilarious |
| 21:05.39 | Lone_Wanderer | They're fairly lax on a lot of things, but they do monitor a lot of calls every day, and anyone caught giving out that kind of information would be fired immediately. |
| 21:05.41 | beandog | especially the Starbucks one |
| 21:05.52 | Lone_Wanderer | Or doing anything "funny" with customer info. |
| 21:06.05 | beandog | http://www.bobfromaccounting.com/shizzypage40.html |
| 21:06.08 | beandog | oh look first one |
| 21:06.53 | Lone_Wanderer | beandog: I've read the Art of Deception :p |
| 21:06.59 | beandog | that is a great book |
| 21:07.14 | beandog | I used to work at the movie theater, I can't tell you how easy it is to sneak in. |
| 21:07.26 | beandog | Simplest way -- act like you know exactly where youre going. |
| 21:08.13 | Lone_Wanderer | Yeah, I've done that before several times. |
| 21:08.26 | Lone_Wanderer | I always buy a ticket :p |
| 21:08.44 | Lone_Wanderer | But if there's any delay at the ticket taker whatsoever, I just look straight ahead and keep walking. |
| 21:08.52 | beandog | Its easy to bowl over underpaid employees, anyway. |
| 21:08.59 | Lone_Wanderer | Yeah. |
| 21:09.05 | Lone_Wanderer | It also helps if you wear a suit. |
| 21:09.26 | beandog | Oh man |
| 21:09.28 | Lone_Wanderer | It's amazing how deferential everyone becomes as soon as you put on a suit or uniform. Even just carrying a clipboard can do it. |
| 21:09.32 | beandog | Another easy one is any place with those security scanners |
| 21:09.45 | Lone_Wanderer | which security scanners? |
| 21:09.48 | beandog | Just stuff something in your shirt, buy something that has to be scanned |
| 21:09.56 | beandog | you know, those things by the doors that beep |
| 21:10.04 | Lone_Wanderer | oh, right |
| 21:10.11 | Lone_Wanderer | then when you leave, just stop and look at the cashier |
| 21:10.15 | beandog | Anyway, even when it goes off, people just either wave you through anyway |
| 21:10.22 | beandog | or they scan it again (the one you bought) |
| 21:10.27 | beandog | and when it goes off again, just walk out |
| 21:10.31 | Lone_Wanderer | yeah |
| 21:10.32 | beandog | Or just dont even look back, no one is going to stop you anyway. |
| 21:10.46 | Lone_Wanderer | Just don't act suspicious and you'll be fine. |
| 21:10.57 | beandog | WalMart and Best Buy are the only places that might get suspicious, but I dunno |
| 21:10.58 | beandog | yah. |
| 21:11.12 | Lone_Wanderer | It works really well at banks and jewelry stores too. |
| 21:11.23 | beandog | or you could just buy a used Best Buy shirt on ebay |
| 21:11.26 | beandog | walk in the stockroom |
| 21:11.29 | Lone_Wanderer | Just walk right into the vault, no-one will say a word! |
| 21:11.31 | beandog | load up a TV and exit through the back |
| 21:11.43 | Lone_Wanderer | Grab some diamonds, pocket them and leave. No-one's going to stop you! |
| 21:11.44 | beandog | I'm sure that one would work easily too. |
| 21:11.56 | Lone_Wanderer | I was being sarcastic :p |
| 21:12.01 | beandog | heh |
| 21:12.05 | beandog | I meant the BB one. |
| 21:12.17 | Lone_Wanderer | Although I'm sure you could social engineer some diamonds out of a jeweler, it probably wouldn't be that easy. |
| 21:12.48 | mindjuju | how would one even approach that? |
| 21:12.49 | Lone_Wanderer | Oh yeah, I bet you could get a free TV no problem. |
| 21:12.55 | Lone_Wanderer | Well, you'd have to do your homework. |
| 21:13.00 | beandog | and youd be on camera. |
| 21:13.16 | mindjuju | hi, i'm from debeers diamonds doing a diamond audit |
| 21:13.22 | Lone_Wanderer | But if you found out how they received their gems, like if someone delivers them weekly or something |
| 21:13.26 | Lone_Wanderer | (I'm just making this up) |
| 21:13.33 | Utah_Dave | There was a hispanic lady who walked into the Well Fargo in Provo several years back |
| 21:13.35 | Lone_Wanderer | then you arrange to take the place of the person making the delivery |
| 21:13.37 | mindjuju | can i take your diamonds to my car where i just happen to have a diamond lab and check yours |
| 21:13.48 | beandog | mindjuju: heh |
| 21:13.52 | beandog | lol |
| 21:13.57 | Lone_Wanderer | or the next day, call them and say "This is Bob from (their gem delivery company), there was a mixup yesterday, we need some diamonds back." |
| 21:13.58 | Utah_Dave | She was carrying a bucket. Looked like the cleaning lady or something. She walked right into the vault, got cash and left. |
| 21:14.04 | mindjuju | please don't worry if you hear my wheels scretch and my car lurch as it is part of the test |
| 21:14.09 | beandog | Utah_Dave: thats great |
| 21:14.18 | Utah_Dave | I never heard if she got caught or not |
| 21:14.21 | Lone_Wanderer | That's awesome UTD. |
| 21:15.03 | Utah_Dave | that was back when I was at BYU. I lived right down the street from that bank |
| 21:16.00 | Lone_Wanderer | I bet it'd be much easier to social engineer gold or gems away from a pawn shop or coin trading shop than it would be to get it out of a "real" jewelry store. |
| 21:16.44 | beandog | I remember reading this one story, I dont remember where I saw it |
| 21:16.57 | beandog | Some kid makes a bet with his dad he can get his CC info from the video rental store |
| 21:17.11 | Lone_Wanderer | Art of Deception |
| 21:17.16 | beandog | was that it? |
| 21:17.18 | beandog | great story. |
| 21:17.26 | Lone_Wanderer | yeah 'cause I know it too :D |
| 21:17.29 | beandog | He calls up the first one, says he wants to compliment corporate on their store, so asks for the store # |
| 21:17.57 | beandog | Then he calls up a second store, claiming to be "the manager from store # whatever" |
| 21:18.20 | beandog | I cant remember the specifics of the story, but the customer started to open an account or something and didnt leave his full credit card # |
| 21:18.46 | thebigdog | Utah_Dave, did you get that working...sorry had to grab a late lunch |
| 21:18.47 | Lone_Wanderer | It was "Our computers are down and this guy doesn't have his card, can you give me his number so I can charge it manually?" |
| 21:18.50 | beandog | And the employee is reluctant to give it out |
| 21:18.54 | beandog | Lone_Wanderer: thats it |
| 21:18.57 | Lone_Wanderer | With judicious references to people waiting in line. |
| 21:19.05 | beandog | So he says can you hurry? ive got people waiting in line |
| 21:19.09 | beandog | so she pulls it up and reads it off to him |
| 21:19.14 | Lone_Wanderer | And he has his account number. |
| 21:19.20 | beandog | Which makes me wonder why employees can access CC#s in the first place. |
| 21:19.21 | Lone_Wanderer | Which iirc is on your receipts, which people throw away. |
| 21:19.37 | beandog | So, moral of the story .. pay cash for everything. |
| 21:19.42 | beandog | and steal mindjuju's identity. |
| 21:19.51 | beandog | and burn your receipts. |
| 21:19.56 | beandog | or something |
| 21:19.56 | mindjuju | and wear a tinfoil hat |
| 21:20.04 | Lone_Wanderer | I don't need a tinfoil hat |
| 21:20.13 | Lone_Wanderer | I've got a faraday cage around my brain. |
| 21:20.25 | mindjuju | beandog, all you have to do is put faraday mesh into a baseball cap |
| 21:20.27 | mindjuju | yup |
| 21:20.27 | beandog | all my thoughts are boring. |
| 21:20.28 | Lone_Wanderer | Surgically implanted copper wires keep out any harmful transmissions. |
| 21:20.30 | mindjuju | then put it on |
| 21:20.45 | Utah_Dave | thebigdog: I didn't get it working. MIN and MAX return the correct number, but doesn't affect the rest of the row |
| 21:21.08 | thebigdog | you have to add the group by stuff |
| 21:21.26 | Utah_Dave | I did. MIN and MAX don't work as expected. |
| 21:21.39 | Lone_Wanderer | It'd have to be in a society where people are normally subjected to brain-wave-interfering broadcasts |
| 21:21.45 | Utah_Dave | They return the MIN or MAX for that column, but don't affect the rest of the row |
| 21:21.45 | beandog | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tin-foil_hat |
| 21:21.50 | beandog | heh, that picture is scary |
| 21:21.59 | Utah_Dave | I have a query that returns all the schedules for each of the people on the team. I'll just use PHP to pull out the specific schedule I want. |
| 21:24.36 | mindjuju | oh, that's too funny |
| 21:24.50 | mindjuju | i didn't know the bottom has to be shielded for the faraday cage to work |
| 21:25.02 | mindjuju | so they'd have to have tinfoil shoes too |
| 21:25.16 | Lone_Wanderer | Speaking of faraday cages |
| 21:25.39 | mindjuju | yup i have one, no you can't store your computer there |
| 21:25.39 | Lone_Wanderer | if I wanted to have a mobile radio station |
| 21:25.42 | beandog | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/items/tinfoilhat.xml |
| 21:25.42 | mindjuju | jk |
| 21:26.03 | beandog | ~lart lame work internet connection |
| 21:26.03 | jbot | slaps a compatible dib on lame work internet connection's head |
| 21:26.46 | Lone_Wanderer | and I rented a van, put an FM broadcaster inside of it, and then plugged into some audio source (or whatever you do with an FM broadcaster) |
| 21:27.01 | Lone_Wanderer | would the van act as a faraday cage and reduce the power of the transmission? |
| 21:28.21 | mindjuju | only on tuesdays |
| 21:28.36 | Lone_Wanderer | Oh, okay. |
| 21:28.53 | Lone_Wanderer | Well the Penny Arcade super-trip is Wednesday to Friday I believe. |
| 21:28.55 | mindjuju | don't know. my realm doesn't extend far into EE |
| 21:29.20 | mindjuju | my bro in law is going into EE, i'll send him an email with your question |
| 21:30.11 | _psychic_ | it will a little |
| 21:30.19 | _psychic_ | any metal reduces RF some |
| 21:30.28 | Lone_Wanderer | ok |
| 21:30.40 | _psychic_ | that's why the antenna is outside :) |
| 21:30.49 | Lone_Wanderer | I wonder if I could stick the transmitter to the top of the van with some nice strong magnets or something. |
| 21:31.19 | mindjuju | magnets prolly won't work |
| 21:31.23 | mindjuju | i'd use duct tape |
| 21:31.37 | mindjuju | cuz that always works |
| 21:31.40 | mindjuju | or gaffer tape |
| 21:32.04 | Lone_Wanderer | If it's a rented van, I'm not sure they'd want me doing that. |
| 21:32.18 | mindjuju | gaffer doesn't leave sticky residue |
| 21:32.31 | Lone_Wanderer | The Penny Arcade Expo (PAX) is in Washington in August |
| 21:32.35 | Lone_Wanderer | (That's Seattle, not D.C.) |
| 21:32.45 | mindjuju | course though, would it be able to withstand holding an antena at 80 mph? |
| 21:32.52 | Lone_Wanderer | and there's a "PAX Supertrip" where a bunch of people who are going start on the east coast and drive there together. |
| 21:33.18 | mindjuju | Lone_Wanderer, you know what i would do |
| 21:33.30 | Lone_Wanderer | So I thought it'd be cool to have "PAX FM" - WPAX on the east coast, switching to KPAX as we cross the Mississippi. |
| 21:33.37 | mindjuju | i've heard there are ways you can boost those FM broadcast things so that they get better range |
| 21:33.41 | Lone_Wanderer | k |
| 21:34.02 | mindjuju | course, i don't think you'll get more than 20 feet, but heh! |
| 21:34.30 | Lone_Wanderer | You can get FM transmitters that have a range of a couple of miles. |
| 21:34.50 | mindjuju | at that range, i'm sure the FCC will coming looking |
| 21:35.08 | Lone_Wanderer | There's a limit within which you can do anything you want without a license. |
| 21:35.09 | mindjuju | don't you think? |
| 21:35.12 | Lone_Wanderer | Yes. |
| 21:35.25 | Lone_Wanderer | But if you keep the signal below a certain power level (or something) then you can just do whatever you want. |
| 21:35.34 | Lone_Wanderer | At least this was the case when I was in high school. |
| 21:35.57 | mindjuju | hmmm... seems like I saw a King of the Hill about this, where Dale was running an underground radio and got chased by the FCC |
| 21:36.25 | mindjuju | then he sells the equipment to an underground spanish radio station playing ranchera music |
| 21:36.26 | _psychic_ | we made a broadcaster that sent out silence on all bands for about 100' once |
| 21:36.42 | _psychic_ | it was real nice for silencing those ricers |
| 21:36.47 | _psychic_ | and their rap music |
| 21:36.51 | _psychic_ | and tube amps |
| 21:37.00 | Lone_Wanderer | that'd be awesome |
| 21:37.10 | _psychic_ | might have been illegal though |
| 21:37.10 | Lone_Wanderer | I want one of those. Seriously. |
| 21:37.12 | _psychic_ | not sure :) |
| 21:37.14 | Lone_Wanderer | I don't care. |
| 21:37.18 | _psychic_ | lol |
| 21:37.24 | Lone_Wanderer | Who's going to come hunting you down? |
| 21:37.26 | _psychic_ | BOOM BOOM BOO..... |
| 21:38.27 | Lone_Wanderer | You're broadcasting silence. Most people are just going to assume that something happened to the station for a minute. |
| 21:38.49 | mindjuju | not even that as 100' at even 10 miles an hour isn't that long |
| 21:38.56 | Lone_Wanderer | yeah |
| 21:39.16 | mindjuju | that's why i say, I'm building an EMP |
| 21:39.28 | mindjuju | if your gonna put it down, put things down for good! |
| 21:39.30 | Lone_Wanderer | How hard is it to make an EMP generator? |
| 21:39.44 | mindjuju | eh, nuclear device in the upper atmosphere |
| 21:39.52 | Lone_Wanderer | And can an EMP be made directional, or do you have to walk the last few blocks to your target? |
| 21:39.57 | mindjuju | or supposedly, there is a way to emulate, but with some pretty sophisticated equip |
| 21:40.13 | Lone_Wanderer | Yeah, you don't need a nuke. |
| 21:40.38 | mindjuju | well, the nuclear option it makes a hemisphere where the detonation point is the top of the hemisophere 3 dimensonally speaking |
| 21:40.58 | mindjuju | i saw something on futureweapons a portalable EMP |
| 21:41.07 | mindjuju | and they crispy fried a car to demonstrate |
| 21:41.19 | mindjuju | well, the car looked ok, but it didn't work after the pulse |
| 21:42.33 | Lone_Wanderer | yeah |
| 21:42.43 | Lone_Wanderer | That's what I'm looking for. A portable EMP generator. |
| 21:44.01 | _psychic_ | I sincerely hope such a device does not exist. |
| 21:44.19 | Lone_Wanderer | It does. |
| 21:44.21 | Lone_Wanderer | I just don't remember how they work. |
| 21:44.41 | Lone_Wanderer | I think it involves generating a very specific shape of explosion along a magnetic coil. |
| 21:45.29 | Lone_Wanderer | You can't just cram some dynamite into a coil, plug it into a battery and then blow it up. The explosion has to proceed along the coil, from one end to the other. |
| 21:45.30 | Lone_Wanderer | iirc |
| 21:46.07 | mindjuju | well, this that I saw on futureweapons sounded more like an eletrical arc , like a loud Zap , but you didn't see an arc |
| 21:48.15 | mindjuju | k, i found it. |
| 21:48.18 | mindjuju | go to this URL |
| 21:48.18 | mindjuju | http://dsc.discovery.com/fansites/future-weapons/future-weapons.html |
| 21:48.31 | mindjuju | at the top, go VIDEO GALLERIES |
| 21:48.31 | Lone_Wanderer | That would obviously be better because you don't have to destroy your EMP generator in the course of using it. |
| 21:48.50 | mindjuju | that brings up a pop up with some vids |
| 21:49.05 | mindjuju | you want season 1 part 1 which should come up by default |
| 21:49.16 | mindjuju | scroll to the bottom and chose EMP bomb |
| 21:50.21 | Lone_Wanderer | ok |
| 22:01.49 | thebigdog | dataw0lf, you there? |
| 22:03.11 | timinator | okay guys... I've got a weird one here..... |
| 22:03.29 | timinator | I've got a form that's supposed to POST the data.... |
| 22:03.39 | timinator | but it's GETing the data...... |
| 22:04.17 | timinator | and instead of going to the right page, it omits the page in the URL, and tries to load the page "POST" |
| 22:04.29 | timinator | here's the URL |
| 22:04.31 | Lone_Wanderer | ? |
| 22:04.32 | Lone_Wanderer | weird |
| 22:04.42 | timinator | https://my.konecnybros.com/admin/POST?id=10690&trucker=1&trucker_list=279&jags%5B11%5D=1504&jags%5B10%5D=1341&jags%5B9%5D=1503&jags%5B8%5D=1342&jags%5B7%5D=1341&submit=Sync+Order |
| 22:05.03 | timinator | that should be a URL like this: https://my.konecnybros.com/admin/gfp_shipping.php?mode=sync_order |
| 22:05.07 | mindjuju | i get 404 |
| 22:05.11 | timinator | ya.... |
| 22:05.19 | timinator | cause the page "POST" doesn't exist |
| 22:05.49 | timinator | (and even if it were working.... there's an authentication system, so you'd go to a login page) |
| 22:06.34 | timinator | have you guys ever heard of that type of problem? |
| 22:06.49 | Lone_Wanderer | It looks like a problem with your form. |
| 22:06.59 | Lone_Wanderer | At least that'd be my guess. |
| 22:07.10 | dataw0lf | thebigdog: yea, but I'm mentally crippled |
| 22:07.17 | thebigdog | ouch |
| 22:07.22 | thebigdog | i have an ext3 question for ya |
| 22:07.27 | dataw0lf | I'll try |
| 22:07.35 | thebigdog | now i have a 10TB drive |
| 22:07.46 | thebigdog | so i want to do mke2fs -b 4096 -j |
| 22:07.54 | thebigdog | but i get an error |
| 22:08.04 | thebigdog | should i push it to 8k |
| 22:08.11 | dataw0lf | what's the error? |
| 22:08.24 | thebigdog | mke2fs 1.35 (28-Feb-2004) |
| 22:08.24 | thebigdog | mke2fs: Filesystem too large. No more than 2**31-1 blocks |
| 22:08.24 | thebigdog | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:08.29 | dataw0lf | oh 10TB |
| 22:08.34 | dataw0lf | yah |
| 22:08.48 | thebigdog | 4k should give me 16tb though |
| 22:09.10 | thebigdog | but the 8k probably is not supported on my box |
| 22:10.27 | dataw0lf | what kernel are you running? |
| 22:10.43 | thebigdog | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:10.43 | dataw0lf | there was a patch a while back that allowed 4096 -> 16TB |
| 22:10.53 | dataw0lf | RHEL? |
| 22:11.02 | thebigdog | yep centos flav |
| 22:11.16 | dataw0lf | yea, I don't think they added that patch |
| 22:11.50 | dataw0lf | you can use GFS |
| 22:11.50 | timinator | AH..... i had the values for the "action" and "method" reversed in the <form> tag.... |
| 22:11.54 | timinator | stupid |
| 22:12.09 | timinator | I need more coffee |
| 22:12.52 | thebigdog | i wonder if i should break the drive in 2 |
| 22:13.13 | dataw0lf | average size of files? |
| 22:13.37 | thebigdog | they will be between 32MB and 2G |
| 22:13.39 | dataw0lf | small size, large amount, break 'er up as much as possible |
| 22:13.46 | dataw0lf | meh |
| 22:13.54 | thebigdog | but i can break the raid into 2 drives at about 5TB per |
| 22:14.12 | thebigdog | so sdc and sdd at about 5tb a piece |
| 22:14.29 | thebigdog | how does ext2 compare? |
| 22:14.36 | thebigdog | now ext2 i think will work |
| 22:14.53 | dataw0lf | ext2? |
| 22:14.58 | thebigdog | yeah |
| 22:14.59 | dataw0lf | ext3 is just ext2 with journaling |
| 22:15.11 | thebigdog | nothing more |
| 22:15.13 | dataw0lf | seriously, there's really no change to the data structure |
| 22:16.01 | thebigdog | ok so iyo would you do 2 drives with ext3 or do 1 drive ext2 |
| 22:16.34 | dataw0lf | if you have RHEL I'd use GFS so you have the opportunity to grow exponentially. |
| 22:16.56 | dataw0lf | since it's a supported FS, it doesn't have the drawbacks that, say, JFS/XFS may have. |
| 22:17.23 | dataw0lf | do you think you'll grow from 10TB to something like 20TB-30TB ? |
| 22:17.44 | dataw0lf | because if you think that's a fair possibility, using GFS will minimize any problems with scalability. |
| 22:17.49 | thebigdog | the drive is stacked full...but we can add another one to it but that gives another drive |
| 22:18.15 | thebigdog | so we can add another raid drive to the server |
| 22:18.20 | thebigdog | that can be 10tb |
| 22:18.35 | dataw0lf | I mean, will you add another RAID that you may want transparency to the other? |
| 22:18.40 | dataw0lf | because GFS will allow clustering |
| 22:19.16 | thebigdog | is it similar to lvm in a way? im not all that familiar with gfs |
| 22:20.25 | thebigdog | do you use gfs with a cluster? |
| 22:21.16 | dataw0lf | nope, I just did consulting on one a month or so ago though. |
| 22:23.08 | Lone_Wanderer | beandog: Just getting around to reading this now. It's great! |
| 22:23.38 | beandog | Lone_Wanderer: shizzy? |
| 22:25.15 | herlo | Lone_Wanderer: is that the xkcd thing? |
| 22:25.21 | beandog | no |
| 22:25.37 | herlo | beandog: what then? |
| 22:26.09 | herlo | or am I not to know? |
| 22:26.16 | beandog | http://www.bobfromaccounting.com/shizzypage40.html |
| 22:26.52 | beandog | almost as good as maddox's pages |
| 22:29.40 | Lone_Wanderer | shizzy yeah |
| 22:29.51 | beandog | a little sadistic |
| 22:29.57 | beandog | but its funny |
| 22:32.10 | Lone_Wanderer | Yeah. |
| 22:32.12 | Lone_Wanderer | He's good. |
| 22:32.14 | Lone_Wanderer | Start out small. |
| 22:32.28 | Lone_Wanderer | Build a relationship. Dangle prizes. |
| 22:32.52 | Lone_Wanderer | Ask for small, inconsequential things first. Build until he's in too deep to back out. |
| 22:34.50 | beandog | yah |
| 22:35.30 | Lone_Wanderer | Oh my gosh. |
| 22:35.48 | Lone_Wanderer | If poor Roger ever gets caught doing this he's going to be canned so fast. |
| 22:36.00 | mgeary | "Don't worry about the other guy with the beard, it doesn't concern you. He is being terminated anyway for stealing" hahahah :D |
| 22:36.07 | Lone_Wanderer | Yeah I love that line :D |
| 22:38.37 | Lone_Wanderer | Ahh he did give him an out. |
| 22:38.42 | Lone_Wanderer | I don't feel so bad for the sap any more. |
| 22:41.54 | Lone_Wanderer | "Fire any fat girls you see on the way." |
| 22:45.42 | beandog | crazy |
| 22:45.47 | beandog | that letter is only one of like 60 or so |
| 22:46.14 | beandog | I think the Starbucks is probably one of the longest |
| 22:46.25 | Lone_Wanderer | I think he should do more stuff like that. |
| 22:47.22 | Lone_Wanderer | Although it does make me wonder how hard it would be to really get into the guts of a publicly owned company and find out stuff you shouldn't. |
| 22:47.27 | Lone_Wanderer | It doesn't seem like it'd be too hard. |
| 22:47.38 | beandog | http://www.bobfromaccounting.com/askyu.html |
| 22:47.59 | beandog | Chinese good at laundry because white devil hire immigrant and hand him box of soap. Chinese just follow directions on box. That not really secret. |
| 22:48.00 | beandog | LMAO |
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| 22:55.47 | Lone_Wanderer | I wonder if hottips@associatedpress.com is a real email address that gets read by people. |
| 22:57.12 | beandog | heh |
| 22:58.08 | beandog | Lone_Wanderer: have you ever read Letters from a Nut? |
| 22:58.10 | beandog | that's a great book. |
| 22:58.52 | Lone_Wanderer | no |
| 22:59.12 | beandog | http://www.amazon.com/Letters-Nut-Ted-L-Nancy/dp/0091895367/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/103-3209000-3702267?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1176332317&sr=1-1 |
| 23:00.32 | beandog | that one is hilarious as well |
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| 23:21.32 | *** mode/#UPHPU [+v brasto] by ChanServ |
| 23:21.58 | brasto | ~brastotack Utah_Dave |
| 23:22.05 | jbot | ACTION lectures Utah_Dave on properly designed databases, normalization, writing quality code with comments, and active-voice writing until Utah_Dave can't take anymore and goes berserk. |
| 23:22.38 | brasto | Dave, thanks for the email, I'll check out pommo.org soon |
| 23:22.40 | mgeary | ~jobsify Utah_Dave |
| 23:22.45 | Lone_Wanderer | Criminy Jon takes a long time to leave. |
| 23:22.51 | mgeary | ~stevejobsify Utah_Dave |
| 23:22.53 | jbot | ACTION drags Utah_Dave by the scruff of the neck and plants him in front row center of the Moscone Center at the peak of Steve Jobs' keynote address until Utah_Daves eyes glaze over and he calms down |
| 23:23.25 | brasto | lol, did you program that one mgeary? |
| 23:23.28 | mgeary | yeah |
| 23:23.51 | brasto | i had to brastotack someone due to the email I sent to the list a bit ago. |
| 23:24.23 | mgeary | ~nerdschool brasto |
| 23:24.25 | jbot | ACTION chains brasto to a molded-fiberglass all-in-one desk/chair, fills his backpack with sci-fi and fantasy novels, and plants him in Norm Bangerter's Elementary Physics class for re-indoctrination. |
| 23:24.40 | mgeary | :) |
| 23:24.42 | brasto | lol |
| 23:24.47 | Utah_Dave | :) |
| 23:25.01 | Utah_Dave | ~wpsattack brasto |
| 23:25.05 | jbot | ACTION grabs brasto's table-based layout and starts to learn brasto some css! |
| 23:25.12 | timinator | I'm out... later guys |
| 23:25.12 | thebigdog | uh |
| 23:25.17 | thebigdog | dataw0lf, check this out |
| 23:25.29 | dataw0lf | k |
| 23:25.30 | thebigdog | so when i parted the drive i set it to ext2 |
| 23:25.42 | thebigdog | then i tuned it up to ext3 and it worked |
| 23:25.51 | thebigdog | for the 10tb |
| 23:25.54 | dataw0lf | huh |
| 23:26.14 | thebigdog | did that make sense |
| 23:26.15 | thebigdog | :) |
| 23:26.22 | brasto | speaking of css, did I send that h1,h2,h3 post to uphpu or plug? |
| 23:26.26 | brasto | anyone remember it? |
| 23:26.30 | dataw0lf | yea it made sense |
| 23:26.45 | thebigdog | that was wierd it did that |
| 23:27.26 | thebigdog | Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on |
| 23:27.26 | thebigdog | /dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol00 |
| 23:27.26 | thebigdog | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:27.26 | thebigdog | /dev/sda1 248M 29M 207M 13% /boot |
| 23:27.26 | thebigdog | none 2.0G 0 2.0G 0% /dev/shm |
| 23:27.27 | thebigdog | /dev/sdb1 6.3T 2.7T 3.5T 44% /var/share |
| 23:27.29 | thebigdog | /dev/sdc1 9.4T 33M 9.0T 1% /var/share2 |
| 23:28.06 | thebigdog | the joys of storage |
| 23:30.29 | mgeary | later folks |
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| 23:37.26 | thebigdog | i think we have a total of 18+tb now |
| 23:37.37 | thebigdog | dataw0lf, ty for you help too |
| 23:37.53 | thebigdog | i will have to check into gfs too |
| 23:38.10 | Lone_Wanderer | google filesystem? |
| 23:38.16 | Lone_Wanderer | isn't that where you use gmail to store your files? |
| 23:38.23 | thebigdog | i shoudl |
| 23:38.54 | thebigdog | i would love to see their datacenter |
| 23:55.05 | *** part/#uphpu brasto (n=brasto@71-219-154-236.slkc.qwest.net) |