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| 01:11.56 | mgeary | hey |
| 01:11.59 | mgeary | anyone around? |
| 01:12.48 | bradym | yup |
| 01:13.20 | mgeary | hey, how do i do a shell script for loop on files matching a pattern? |
| 01:13.35 | mgeary | for i in `ls *.xyz`... ? |
| 01:14.42 | bradym | good question.. i don't do much shell scripting.. |
| 01:15.00 | mgeary | well jeeze. |
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| 02:22.57 | beandog | go away, fag |
| 02:23.27 | scottmorris | go make me some dinner |
| 02:23.29 | beandog | heh |
| 02:23.32 | beandog | your mom's making mine |
| 02:23.39 | scottmorris | cooked poop |
| 02:23.44 | beandog | :) |
| 02:23.46 | beandog | tell u whot |
| 02:23.48 | beandog | im outta, grannie |
| 02:23.53 | scottmorris | where you goin'? |
| 02:23.55 | beandog | home |
| 02:23.59 | scottmorris | you at work? |
| 02:24.02 | beandog | yah |
| 02:24.09 | scottmorris | well what's wrong with you? |
| 02:24.24 | beandog | were not sure yet |
| 02:24.30 | scottmorris | dude, you ought to start coding with both hands..... you'll get more done that way. |
| 02:24.58 | scottmorris | not really sure I want to know what you do with that other hand.... :| |
| 02:25.07 | beandog | bueno |
| 02:25.08 | scottmorris | Pick your nose? |
| 02:25.09 | beandog | heh |
| 02:25.12 | beandog | tehre we go |
| 02:25.16 | beandog | alright Im outta, seey man |
| 02:25.19 | scottmorris | k |
| 02:25.21 | scottmorris | lateZ |
| 02:25.29 | scottmorris | Mac... |
| 02:25.44 | scottmorris | I still have your tow strap. It's in my car, which is still broken. In the shop. |
| 02:26.22 | scottmorris | The guy will have to rebuild the upper half of my engine, so the car may be there awhile. One of these times when I go in to check on it, I'll grab your tow rope and pass it on to Steve. |
| 02:27.51 | macnewbold | scottmorris: ouch, I'm sorry to hear that |
| 02:28.29 | macnewbold | no worries on the tow strap |
| 02:29.01 | macnewbold | I hopefully won't need it any time soon |
| 02:29.01 | macnewbold | I think you were the first time we've really used it in about a year |
| 02:29.01 | scottmorris | Heh, ok. |
| 02:30.35 | scottmorris | Thanks for letting me use it. Did you hear Jason got the video put together? |
| 02:30.49 | scottmorris | From all that footage that we took out there, Jason edited together a video of it. |
| 02:31.00 | scottmorris | I'll have to get the URL to it when I see him next |
| 02:34.55 | macnewbold | that would be cool |
| 02:37.40 | scottmorris | Yeah, some of that footage is pretty neat. |
| 02:37.56 | scottmorris | But out of 33 minutes, there are only about 6 good minutes of good quality footage. |
| 02:38.06 | scottmorris | I spent the first 15 minutes just figuring out how to run the camera. :) |
| 02:41.38 | macnewbold | yeah, that's how a lot of productions go I bet, with a lot of takes to get the bit of the best stuff |
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| 02:44.53 | scottmorris | Yep.... really good directors have about a 4:1 ratio, though.... ours was like 8:1... :| |
| 02:44.57 | scottmorris | But whatever. |
| 02:45.04 | scottmorris | that's total recorded minutes to usable minutes.... |
| 02:45.06 | scottmorris | anyway |
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| 04:11.49 | PoeticIntensity | yo.... |
| 04:12.21 | PoeticIntensity | anyone here interested in the long-awaited release of "Jason and Mac destroy their cars at the Salt Flats" Premiere? |
| 04:12.35 | PoeticIntensity | actually... Mac doesn't get much camera time... :) |
| 04:12.39 | PoeticIntensity | sorry, Mac. |
| 04:13.57 | PoeticIntensity | ahhhh well... |
| 04:14.01 | PoeticIntensity | I'll show it to ya'll tomorrow. |
| 04:14.02 | PoeticIntensity | :) |
| 04:14.05 | PoeticIntensity | Get your popcorn! |
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| 15:32.11 | PoeticIntensity | top o' the mornin' to ya'll. |
| 15:32.16 | mgeary | morning |
| 15:32.33 | dataw0lf | good morning |
| 15:32.54 | PoeticIntensity | anyone interested in viewing a video I made of the Salt Flats? |
| 15:33.16 | mgeary | sure |
| 15:33.23 | mgeary | beats working ;) |
| 15:33.33 | PoeticIntensity | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8492664353943935331 |
| 15:33.37 | PoeticIntensity | lemme know what ya think. |
| 15:42.17 | thebigdog | mindjuju where is you cool mp3 at |
| 15:42.33 | thebigdog | PoeticIntensity, you have got to hear this: http://thebigdog.biz/bigdog.mp3 |
| 15:48.10 | Utah_Dave | thebigdog: that was fantastic |
| 15:48.25 | thebigdog | yeah very good |
| 15:48.32 | thebigdog | mindjuju wants to mix it up |
| 15:49.27 | dataw0lf | chikka chikka bow wow |
| 15:50.33 | Lone_Wanderer | I'd have thought it'd be "You're Pretty When I'm Drunk" |
| 15:50.37 | dataw0lf | yea, that's it |
| 15:50.56 | Lone_Wanderer | Some professors did a bunch of "research" |
| 15:51.03 | Lone_Wanderer | to discover how drunnk goggles work |
| 15:51.10 | Lone_Wanderer | -n |
| 15:51.10 | thebigdog | chicka chicka |
| 15:51.22 | thebigdog | so im still here...hr lady loved the mp3 |
| 15:51.35 | thebigdog | laughed her arse off she said |
| 15:52.19 | Utah_Dave | PoeticIntensity: dude, that's an awesome video |
| 15:52.23 | dataw0lf | I could tap that barrel, in fact I know I can, it's a menage a trois, me, you and heineken |
| 15:52.26 | dataw0lf | cuz |
| 15:52.28 | dataw0lf | you're pretty when I'm drunk |
| 15:52.39 | PoeticIntensity | Utah_Dave, thanks! |
| 15:53.00 | PoeticIntensity | watching that makes me wanna get up, go to my car, and do it all over again. |
| 15:53.16 | dataw0lf | you'd think I was a ditch the way this chick was diggin' me |
| 15:53.54 | dataw0lf | with my beer tinted glasses I'm ready to bitty battle, I'm hungry like a wolf but I'll end up tending cattle |
| 15:53.57 | dataw0lf | cuz |
| 15:53.58 | dataw0lf | you're pretty when I'm drunk |
| 15:56.05 | Lone_Wanderer | woah |
| 15:56.13 | dataw0lf | regreeeeeeeeeeeeeets, I've had a few, first and foremost, I'd like to mention, you |
| 15:56.18 | dataw0lf | sry |
| 15:56.30 | Lone_Wanderer | the part where you're deliberately sliding sideways and the side of your car catches the light is great |
| 15:57.24 | Lone_Wanderer | at about 51 seconds in |
| 15:58.38 | mgeary | okay guys, PHP question. I've got a portal where different users log in. This portal is running under several virtualHosts, so user A might find it under domainA.com/admin/ and user B might find it under domainB.com/admin/. So, i've now got a mechanism that generates a folder of static html of usage stats, and i want each user to be able to see his (and ONLY his) stats... |
| 15:59.24 | mgeary | so, i don't want people to have to do: |
| 15:59.35 | mgeary | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:59.42 | dataw0lf | how exactly are you generating the stats, and exactly how are you storing them |
| 15:59.43 | mgeary | because that would look silly and lead to guessing |
| 16:00.16 | mgeary | outside the webroot i've got a "stats" folder, and inside that each domain has a folder with index.htm being the starting point |
| 16:00.34 | mgeary | i'm thinking a mod_rewrite is the way to go |
| 16:00.41 | dataw0lf | so stats per domain rather than per user |
| 16:00.43 | mgeary | but the rewrite rule needs to factor in the current virtual host domain |
| 16:00.47 | mgeary | correct |
| 16:00.53 | mgeary | something like: |
| 16:01.22 | mgeary | rewriteRule (whatever)/stats /path/to/stats/{%domain_name%}/ |
| 16:01.33 | mgeary | rewriteRule (whatever)/stats /path/to/stats/{%domain_name%}/ [P,L] |
| 16:01.46 | PoeticIntensity | Lone_Wanderer, that part of the video was awesome, I'll agree.... heh... however, I'll let you know that entire slide was done by accident. |
| 16:01.48 | PoeticIntensity | :) |
| 16:01.57 | Lone_Wanderer | sweet |
| 16:02.03 | PoeticIntensity | everyone thought I did it on purpose... |
| 16:02.13 | PoeticIntensity | maybe I should have let em' think it. |
| 16:02.17 | Lone_Wanderer | Maybe :p |
| 16:02.22 | PoeticIntensity | I'm not sure I could ever do it again, though. |
| 16:02.27 | Lone_Wanderer | Next time we should set out cones |
| 16:02.31 | Lone_Wanderer | and have races |
| 16:02.34 | mgeary | but here's the other thing, since this is inside a portal, i want to control authentication. and since these are static html files, i don't have the opportunity to regulate access on the pages |
| 16:02.41 | Lone_Wanderer | not everyone at once, but we can time each run |
| 16:02.51 | mgeary | and doing a php passthru seems odious |
| 16:03.02 | PoeticIntensity | Lone_Wanderer, Yeah.... We were thinking of doing that next time. |
| 16:03.09 | PoeticIntensity | not sure where we'd get the cones, though. |
| 16:03.15 | PoeticIntensity | or who would get em' down there. |
| 16:03.22 | Lone_Wanderer | Well they're not that big. |
| 16:03.34 | PoeticIntensity | nah.... but if we did anything but mark an end point, we'd need a lot of em'. |
| 16:03.41 | Lone_Wanderer | yeah |
| 16:03.41 | PoeticIntensity | like... plotting out a course... |
| 16:03.50 | PoeticIntensity | making a slalom course.... etc.. |
| 16:03.57 | Lone_Wanderer | *nods* |
| 16:04.02 | PoeticIntensity | fun fun fun stuff. |
| 16:04.23 | PoeticIntensity | heh.... I'm still workin' on my "straight line" driving. |
| 16:05.35 | mgeary | dataw0lf: any ideas? |
| 16:06.01 | dataw0lf | sorry, I get distracted easily |
| 16:06.23 | dataw0lf | I, personally, wouldn't use mod_rewrite, I'd use the PHP handler |
| 16:06.39 | dataw0lf | since you're authenticating the users and want them only to see their stats, this seems like the best way |
| 16:07.30 | mgeary | yeah, but each HTML file has links to other HTML files. the pain of url rewriting... |
| 16:08.07 | mgeary | i mean, there's a whole directory full of files for each set of stats |
| 16:08.13 | dataw0lf | oh |
| 16:08.23 | dataw0lf | hm |
| 16:09.07 | dataw0lf | I'd probably still use PHP.. |
| 16:09.10 | mgeary | i can also generate the stats as a PDF, maybe i should just do that. but it's like a 50 meg file :/ |
| 16:10.57 | mgeary | so what would you do with php, convert each url link into something like "gateway.php?file=somefile.htm"? |
| 16:13.02 | dataw0lf | yea. probably. |
| 16:15.35 | Lone_Wanderer | I've always thought that was a retarded way of doing things. |
| 16:16.13 | PoeticIntensity | Is it just me, or is everyone apart from the IT dept. in a business, completely inept and unable to do their jobs without completely screwing things up? |
| 16:16.45 | Lone_Wanderer | Well, in my experience, even the IT department screws things up. |
| 16:16.57 | mgeary | Lone_Wanderer: i'm open to suggestions :) |
| 16:17.03 | PoeticIntensity | Is it completely wrong of me to program things with the assumption that people *using* the application are actually intelligent enough to do their job? |
| 16:17.10 | Lone_Wanderer | It's a miracle that most businesses can even deliver a product, much less one that works consistently. |
| 16:17.32 | Lone_Wanderer | PoeticIntensity: Insert Douglas Adams quote about the ingenuity of complete fools. |
| 16:17.33 | PoeticIntensity | sorry for the rang. |
| 16:17.36 | PoeticIntensity | rant, even. |
| 16:17.40 | Lone_Wanderer | You rang? |
| 16:17.46 | PoeticIntensity | why yes... |
| 16:17.54 | PoeticIntensity | do you have any grey poupon? |
| 16:17.55 | Lone_Wanderer | (Lurch) |
| 16:18.28 | PoeticIntensity | ugh..... |
| 16:18.55 | PoeticIntensity | Yo Lone_Wanderer, is beandog at work? |
| 16:19.13 | PoeticIntensity | if so, please tell him I have an answer to his problem. |
| 16:19.22 | PoeticIntensity | tell him to get back online. |
| 16:19.25 | PoeticIntensity | :) |
| 16:19.27 | Lone_Wanderer | brb |
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| 16:20.03 | Lone_Wanderer | Magic! |
| 16:20.06 | PoeticIntensity | welcome back! |
| 16:20.09 | PoeticIntensity | IM me. |
| 16:21.06 | PoeticIntensity | thanks, Lone_Wanderer |
| 16:22.33 | Lone_Wanderer | Sure thing. |
| 16:23.09 | Lone_Wanderer | This picture is awesome |
| 16:23.10 | Lone_Wanderer | http://images.teamsugar.com/files/users/1/13254/13_2007/beer.jpg |
| 16:26.54 | PoeticIntensity | heh..... pretty cool. |
| 16:28.35 | Lone_Wanderer | Also - inverse ninja law in action |
| 16:28.36 | Lone_Wanderer | http://digitaljournalist.org/issue0703/worldpress13.html |
| 16:28.47 | Lone_Wanderer | (Yes, I have nothing to do at work right now, so I'm browsing Reddit.) |
| 16:42.41 | mindjuju | dang, why is it so freakin' cold outside? |
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| 17:07.32 | mindjuju | anybody here been to jackson hole, wy? |
| 17:09.41 | Lone_Wanderer | okay this is weird |
| 17:09.54 | Lone_Wanderer | why is 26 % 4 = 2 and not .5? |
| 17:12.04 | _psychic_ | 4 X 6 = 24 |
| 17:12.06 | _psychic_ | remainder 2 |
| 17:12.19 | _psychic_ | its correct. |
| 17:12.48 | Lone_Wanderer | I know, but in C, the % operator returns the fraction |
| 17:12.50 | Lone_Wanderer | iirc |
| 17:13.23 | _psychic_ | I guess I assumed this was a PHP question ;) |
| 17:13.26 | Lone_Wanderer | It is. |
| 17:13.41 | _psychic_ | the remainder isn't a fraction, though |
| 17:13.42 | Lone_Wanderer | I'm just wondering why they chose to do it that way in PHP :p |
| 17:13.54 | _psychic_ | why would it return a fraction? |
| 17:13.56 | Lone_Wanderer | It's nice. It just threw me. |
| 17:14.05 | Lone_Wanderer | Because that's what I'm used to. |
| 17:14.22 | Lone_Wanderer | It's Tradition! |
| 17:14.24 | _psychic_ | but the remainder value isn't a fraction |
| 17:14.44 | Lone_Wanderer | Fiddler on the Roof |
| 17:14.47 | mindjuju | the remainer can be represented as a fraction though |
| 17:14.51 | Lone_Wanderer | Tradition... TRADITION! |
| 17:15.13 | Lone_Wanderer | Anyway, yeah. I'm used to doing (a % b) * a |
| 17:15.16 | _psychic_ | a fraction of... |
| 17:15.18 | _psychic_ | ? |
| 17:15.18 | Lone_Wanderer | to get the non-fraction |
| 17:15.42 | Lone_Wanderer | Well if you do, for example, 26/4 |
| 17:15.45 | mindjuju | yup, exactly lone_wanderer |
| 17:15.50 | Lone_Wanderer | you get 6.5 |
| 17:16.01 | Lone_Wanderer | .5 is what I was expecting to get. .5 * 4 = 2 |
| 17:16.15 | _psychic_ | but modulus is for getting the remainder |
| 17:16.29 | Lone_Wanderer | Right. And .5 *is* the remainder, in the form I'm used to getting it. |
| 17:16.47 | _psychic_ | no, .5 * 4 is the remainder. |
| 17:17.08 | _psychic_ | if I divide 4 into 26, I have two as the remainder that wasn't applied |
| 17:17.11 | _psychic_ | lol |
| 17:17.22 | Lone_Wanderer | .5 is the remainder in a different form |
| 17:17.31 | Lone_Wanderer | anyway, whatever. |
| 17:17.32 | mindjuju | that's such a cool song |
| 17:17.35 | _psychic_ | well so is ei^π |
| 17:18.03 | mindjuju | well, now i've got to find that song and play it |
| 17:31.10 | mindjuju | PoeticIntensity, you should just scrap together an old box from home, pack it with tunes and bring it to work |
| 17:31.15 | mindjuju | that's what i have going |
| 17:31.55 | PoeticIntensity | mindjuju, yeah.... I bring my laptop. |
| 17:32.07 | PoeticIntensity | and I've got an iaudio X5 that I have, but.... it isn't connected to the net. |
| 17:32.21 | mindjuju | oh bummer |
| 17:32.27 | PoeticIntensity | yup. |
| 17:32.34 | PoeticIntensity | too lazy to get out my laptop, most days. |
| 17:34.20 | macnewbold | ~yow |
| 17:34.31 | mindjuju | huh? |
| 17:34.36 | mindjuju | sup macnewbold |
| 17:34.58 | Utah_Dave | ~macattach macnewbold |
| 17:35.17 | Utah_Dave | ~macattack macnewbold |
| 17:35.19 | jbot | ACTION jumps on bell rope, causing bell to hit macnewbold! |
| 17:35.19 | macnewbold | ~retaliate |
| 17:35.21 | Utah_Dave | dangit |
| 17:35.45 | mindjuju | retaliate, hmmm.... |
| 17:35.59 | Utah_Dave | that's awesome |
| 17:38.03 | macnewbold | so Utah_Dave, which building or dept. or whatever do you work in at your job? I drive by there a lot, and was curious which one you're in. |
| 17:38.44 | Utah_Dave | I'm in the small buildings on the southwest corner of Camp Williams |
| 17:39.08 | Utah_Dave | you drive this far south? That's a pretty long drive from codegreene |
| 17:43.23 | mindjuju | jbot: retal $1 is <action> $who turns to $lastspeaker and (backhands $lastspeaker|kicks $lastspeaker in the butt|makes fun of their mom|ninja kick's $lastspeaker in the shin|melvin's $lastspeaker leaving $lastspeaker hanging from the flagpole)! |
| 17:43.24 | jbot | mindjuju: okay |
| 17:43.54 | mindjuju | utah_dave , attack me with a jbot command |
| 17:44.21 | _psychic_ | ~psyhit mindjuju |
| 17:44.22 | jbot | ACTION wiggles his fingers your direction. You no longer believe in your own existence. |
| 17:44.25 | mindjuju | ~retal |
| 17:44.34 | _psychic_ | ... |
| 17:44.38 | mindjuju | bummer |
| 17:44.45 | mindjuju | ~retal |
| 17:45.05 | mindjuju | retal _psychic_ |
| 17:45.11 | mindjuju | ~retal _psychic_ |
| 17:45.13 | jbot | ACTION mindjuju turns to mindjuju and backhands mindjuju! |
| 17:45.17 | _psychic_ | bwahaha |
| 17:45.20 | mindjuju | oh, that sux |
| 17:45.24 | _psychic_ | pwned |
| 17:45.40 | _psychic_ | let's try it again |
| 17:45.42 | _psychic_ | ~psyhit |
| 17:45.48 | _psychic_ | ~psyhit mindjuju |
| 17:45.49 | jbot | ACTION wiggles his fingers your direction. You no longer believe thebigdog is big. |
| 17:45.52 | mindjuju | ~retal _psychic_ |
| 17:45.54 | jbot | ACTION mindjuju turns to mindjuju and kicks mindjuju in the butt! |
| 17:45.59 | mindjuju | yeah, that sux big |
| 17:46.03 | _psychic_ | well, you're the last speaker |
| 17:46.16 | mindjuju | yeah, so when is that ever going to not be you? |
| 17:47.04 | mindjuju | oh well, i've got to finish this code today, i'll have to take a look at jbot commands tomorrow |
| 17:48.20 | Utah_Dave | ~tunafart mindjuju |
| 17:48.22 | jbot | ACTION eats a week-old tuna sandwich with relish and walks over to mindjuju, leg raised, to let 'em rip. |
| 17:48.42 | mindjuju | har har har |
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| 18:15.03 | brasto | if you already installed php from source, but want to add extensions currently not installed, do you have to ./configure make install clean again? |
| 18:18.19 | brasto | the php documentation doesn't address this at all |
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| 18:22.18 | timinator | dunno |
| 18:23.33 | beandog | brasto: yes |
| 18:23.43 | beandog | you dont have to make clean though |
| 18:23.45 | beandog | just run make |
| 18:23.49 | beandog | it will only make the new things |
| 18:23.54 | beandog | or, whatevers changed |
| 18:25.39 | brasto | don't need to run make install either, beandog? |
| 18:25.45 | beandog | yes, you do |
| 18:25.51 | brasto | ok |
| 18:25.53 | beandog | just change configure options, then go on as normal |
| 18:26.45 | brasto | it seems such an inefficient way to do things... every time you want to add one extension, you have to reinstall the whole application... |
| 18:26.53 | beandog | well thats the thing |
| 18:26.58 | beandog | youre not recompiling the whole thing |
| 18:27.00 | beandog | just whatever you added. |
| 18:27.12 | beandog | ./configure --enable-foo --disable-bar compiles foo libs, but not bar's |
| 18:27.26 | beandog | ./configure --enable-foo --enable-bar again, will just compile bar's libs, since foo is done. |
| 18:27.43 | brasto | ah, so, next time I compile from source, don't run make clean... |
| 18:27.47 | beandog | right |
| 18:43.00 | thebigdog | anyone interested in a c++ job? |
| 18:43.31 | macnewbold | eww |
| 18:43.34 | macnewbold | not me |
| 18:45.11 | kajigga | nope |
| 18:45.35 | burnin | whats wrong with c++? |
| 18:45.45 | beandog | nothing |
| 18:45.52 | beandog | :) |
| 18:46.13 | burnin | s/like/likes/ |
| 18:58.26 | beandog | man |
| 18:58.40 | beandog | I need like ... a realtime javascript something or other, so its not such a pain to test these functions. |
| 18:59.40 | wps | who was it that was complaining about rounded corners the other day? |
| 19:00.12 | wps | I was just reading an article on Ars and thought of it… noticing their new design's excessive use of them |
| 19:00.13 | wps | http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070330-high-schoolers-turn-in-plagiarism-screeners-for-copyright-infringement.html |
| 19:00.39 | beandog | I like the rounded corners |
| 19:02.49 | beandog | its easy on the eyeballs |
| 19:03.21 | wps | I think they went a little too far, rounding everything… there needs to be balance |
| 19:03.46 | beandog | why isnt this regexp working |
| 19:03.54 | beandog | /^\d+(\.\d{,2})?$/ |
| 19:05.30 | macnewbold | is that a js regexp |
| 19:05.35 | macnewbold | they're a little weird sometimes |
| 19:05.37 | beandog | yah |
| 19:08.14 | beandog | http://rafb.net/p/kOkwLW93.html |
| 19:08.16 | beandog | no me workie :C |
| 19:08.21 | beandog | takes a single integer |
| 19:08.30 | beandog | I dont think it likes me escaping the period |
| 19:12.18 | thebigdog | why not create a regex var |
| 19:13.18 | thebigdog | and then test it |
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| 19:18.21 | beandog | wahts the difference |
| 19:20.45 | thebigdog | nothing...but it might help in your if statement |
| 19:22.45 | beandog | ? |
| 19:22.46 | beandog | how would it help? |
| 19:24.45 | thebigdog | try it and see if it works like you want |
| 19:25.01 | beandog | ok |
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| 19:37.12 | beandog | bah. |
| 19:37.14 | beandog | why did that work. |
| 19:38.09 | thebigdog | cause im thebigdog |
| 19:38.24 | beandog | macnewbold has cool little cookie-bearing ites |
| 19:38.41 | _psychic_ | ~cookie |
| 19:39.18 | mgeary | ~buy mgeary chips ahoy |
| 19:39.19 | jbot | ACTION goes to S-Mart and gets a dozen chips ahoys for mgeary |
| 19:39.31 | mindjuju | ~ranq |
| 19:39.33 | jbot | ACTION Shop smart. Shop S-Mart. |
| 19:39.42 | mgeary | that wasn't very random |
| 19:39.44 | beandog | thebigdog: thank you sir |
| 19:39.52 | thebigdog | beandog, np |
| 19:40.06 | beandog | isnt that still just a var though |
| 19:41.37 | macnewbold | ~cookie |
| 19:42.09 | beandog | the wheel of knowledge? |
| 19:42.16 | macnewbold | ~brownie |
| 19:42.18 | jbot | ACTION gives <who> a cookie |
| 19:42.23 | macnewbold | ~cake |
| 19:42.24 | jbot | it has been said that cake is all gone :( |
| 19:42.47 | mgeary | jbot forget brownie |
| 19:42.47 | jbot | mgeary: i forgot brownie |
| 19:43.09 | mgeary | jbot brownie is <action> gives $who a brownie |
| 19:43.10 | jbot | mgeary: okay |
| 19:43.13 | mgeary | ~brownie |
| 19:43.14 | jbot | ACTION gives mgeary a brownie |
| 19:44.07 | mgeary | i want a better brownie |
| 19:44.10 | mgeary | ~brownie |
| 19:44.12 | jbot | ACTION gives mgeary a double-chocolate-chip brownie. A corner piece, 'cause the crust is the best part! mmmmm. |
| 19:44.17 | mgeary | ahh. that's better |
| 19:44.24 | _psychic_ | ? |
| 19:44.27 | macnewbold | anyone here use MySQL? http://www.visibone.com/sql/ |
| 19:44.49 | mgeary | macnewbold: uh, nooooo, never heard of it |
| 19:44.52 | mgeary | ;) |
| 19:44.59 | beandog | and even then, that first string worked but the 2nd one didnt |
| 19:45.32 | seant23 | javascript is a really powerfull language, most people don't know that |
| 19:45.52 | *** part/#uphpu brasto (n=brasto@71-219-154-236.slkc.qwest.net) |
| 19:46.23 | seant23 | firefox is built with XUL which is just xml+javascript |
| 19:46.31 | mindjuju | ~rlart |
| 19:46.32 | jbot | executes killall -KILL Black_Chaos |
| 19:47.02 | mgeary | seant23: well, i don't think Firefox uses javascript for actual html rendering |
| 19:48.00 | seant23 | no of course not, mozilla engine |
| 19:48.17 | mgeary | but yes, JS is a surprisingly capable engine |
| 19:56.12 | seant23 | yup only main downside, is that mozilla and microsoft can't work together on standards, which is why i like my job, firefox only, makes it simple |
| 19:56.27 | beandog | seamonkey > * |
| 19:56.41 | beandog | and no, we wont be hearing any arguments to the contrary, sorry. |
| 19:58.01 | seant23 | can you use firebug with seamonkey? |
| 19:58.10 | seant23 | if not its garbage |
| 19:58.40 | beandog | uh |
| 19:58.41 | beandog | I think so. |
| 19:58.47 | beandog | Im using the web developer one with seamonkey |
| 19:58.53 | beandog | workie bien. |
| 19:59.31 | seant23 | ya firebug saves hours |
| 19:59.53 | seant23 | its made by the same guy that started firefox :0 |
| 20:00.29 | thebigdog | anyone use a good drop down menu package/software? |
| 20:00.41 | seant23 | why did they change the name to seamonkey? |
| 20:00.54 | mgeary | thebigdog: do you need N-levels deep? |
| 20:00.58 | mgeary | or just one level? |
| 20:01.04 | thebigdog | n levels |
| 20:01.54 | mgeary | i've got a very clean CSS-driven menu snippet, but it's only one-level-deep. |
| 20:01.57 | thebigdog | oh |
| 20:01.57 | mgeary | you go beyond that and you've got to bring in a bunch of JS to manage state |
| 20:03.42 | thebigdog | so hard to find a simple one now |
| 20:03.46 | beandog | thebigdog: dunno, probably because 'mozilla' means so many things. |
| 20:03.48 | beandog | who knows. |
| 20:05.29 | beandog | now the math isnt even working. |
| 20:05.35 | beandog | 70.80000000000001 |
| 20:05.36 | beandog | -_- |
| 20:06.41 | seant23 | Math.round() Math.ceil Math.floor |
| 20:08.41 | beandog | hmm |
| 20:08.41 | beandog | ok |
| 20:09.19 | PoeticIntensity | beandog must be experiencing the extreme frustration experienced by the lack of javascript debugging tools. |
| 20:09.29 | PoeticIntensity | I experienced that about 7 years ago. |
| 20:09.39 | PoeticIntensity | back when cross-browser compatibility existed NOWHERE. |
| 20:09.55 | PoeticIntensity | Netscape 3 and MSIE 4 were IT. |
| 20:10.04 | PoeticIntensity | and they didn't even come close to speaking the same languaged. |
| 20:10.08 | PoeticIntensity | language, even. |
| 20:10.15 | beandog | PoeticIntensity is old school |
| 20:17.42 | macnewbold | I started out using NCSA's Mosaic as my first web browser |
| 20:17.50 | macnewbold | followed later by netscape |
| 20:19.28 | seant23 | Netscape Communicator was the best |
| 20:19.52 | thebigdog | i started with lync |
| 20:19.59 | thebigdog | the father of lynx |
| 20:23.18 | beandog | Netscape Communictator was the best |
| 20:23.19 | beandog | good times. |
| 20:23.36 | beandog | that was a great appie |
| 20:23.43 | mindjuju | pegasus mail, heh |
| 20:23.57 | mindjuju | it's still around |
| 20:34.44 | Lone_Wanderer | oh yeah? |
| 20:35.08 | Lone_Wanderer | when I was a kid, we didn't have browsers |
| 20:35.12 | Lone_Wanderer | we had hypercard |
| 20:35.15 | Lone_Wanderer | and we liked it! |
| 20:35.24 | seant23 | bbs? |
| 20:35.31 | Lone_Wanderer | Oh yeah, those too. |
| 20:35.32 | mindjuju | yeah |
| 20:35.46 | Lone_Wanderer | And our networks connected with BNC's |
| 20:35.48 | mindjuju | well, procomm is what i used to connect to bbs |
| 20:35.55 | Lone_Wanderer | and we liked those too, 'cause we could unplug one and bring the whole network down |
| 20:36.02 | seant23 | ever use rocky mountain bbs? it was a pirate bbs |
| 20:36.32 | mindjuju | i was in Houston at the time, but was a courier for the warez scene down there |
| 20:36.34 | Lone_Wanderer | No. |
| 20:36.38 | Lone_Wanderer | I was in Minnesota. |
| 20:36.42 | seant23 | ahhh |
| 20:36.50 | Lone_Wanderer | lol, you'd carry disks back and forth? |
| 20:36.52 | mindjuju | courier lifestyle was the best |
| 20:37.16 | mindjuju | nope, you'd go to a cracker, get the "fun stuff" move it to a site, grab some "fun stuff" move it to another site |
| 20:37.18 | mindjuju | and so on |
| 20:37.31 | mindjuju | and by site, i mean of cousre, a bbs |
| 20:38.14 | mindjuju | my claim to fame was having wolfenstein like 2 days after it was released |
| 20:38.29 | seant23 | that was a good game, i heard someone made a javscript version under 50k |
| 20:38.37 | seant23 | its garbage of course |
| 20:38.50 | Lone_Wanderer | sweet |
| 20:39.15 | mgeary | old games are the best |
| 20:39.16 | mindjuju | yeah, wolf was a fun game, i'll admit, i never finished it, but a friend of mine did |
| 20:39.26 | seant23 | http://www.wolf5k.com/# |
| 20:39.31 | mgeary | i'd always freak out when the SS showed up. "SS! SS!" |
| 20:39.34 | mindjuju | i always got lost, didn't have a head for fps at the time |
| 20:39.45 | mindjuju | totally, i'd always get crepped out too |
| 20:39.47 | mgeary | FPS |
| 20:39.49 | mgeary | sonny |
| 20:39.59 | mgeary | the original Wolfenstein waren't no FPS |
| 20:40.09 | mgeary | top-down 2D |
| 20:40.16 | mindjuju | huh? |
| 20:40.23 | Lone_Wanderer | Did anyone play RtCW? |
| 20:40.24 | mgeary | remember getting the bullet-proof vest from the locked cabinets? That was the best |
| 20:40.44 | mgeary | I'm talking Wolfenstein for the Apple II |
| 20:40.52 | mgeary | http://www.wolf3d.co.uk/castlewolfenstein.php |
| 20:40.55 | mindjuju | er, oh, apple ii |
| 20:41.04 | mindjuju | k, you got me there. i never saw that version |
| 20:41.05 | mgeary | ahhh, that brings back memories |
| 20:41.09 | mgeary | wow |
| 20:41.17 | mindjuju | i did play conan on apple ii, but that was it |
| 20:41.21 | mgeary | i've gotta fire up my Apple II emulator and play that |
| 20:41.22 | mgeary | NO WAY |
| 20:41.24 | mindjuju | and bruce lee on the commadore |
| 20:41.27 | mgeary | i just played Conan 2 days ago! |
| 20:41.28 | mgeary | seriously |
| 20:41.35 | mgeary | the throwing axe bit is awesome |
| 20:41.35 | mindjuju | fun game |
| 20:41.43 | mgeary | hah |
| 20:41.46 | mgeary | see, classics endure |
| 20:41.48 | mindjuju | i haven't played since... |
| 20:42.04 | mindjuju | welll, i was prolly 14, so.. 20 years |
| 20:42.28 | mgeary | hahah |
| 20:42.34 | mgeary | here's what the SS would say: http://www.wolf3d.co.uk/yell.wav |
| 20:42.38 | mgeary | no wonder it scared me |
| 20:44.08 | Lone_Wanderer | Such high quality sound! |
| 20:44.17 | mgeary | that's just what it sounded like, too |
| 20:44.20 | Lone_Wanderer | What are they saying? |
| 20:44.23 | mgeary | no idea |
| 20:44.26 | mgeary | :) |
| 20:44.59 | beandog | Lone_Wanderer: yah its great |
| 20:46.20 | mindjuju | these are kind of funny, for those of you who are gearing up for April Fools |
| 20:46.21 | mindjuju | http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/hoax/aprilfool/P1/ |
| 20:46.44 | Lone_Wanderer | ohh, I used to hang out at the forums there ages ago |
| 20:47.08 | mindjuju | The left handed whopper, #8 is my fav |
| 20:48.06 | beandog | #4 is great |
| 20:48.16 | mindjuju | yeah, that one is good |
| 20:48.22 | Lone_Wanderer | "I'd like a whopper but make sure it's right-handed." |
| 20:49.27 | Lone_Wanderer | ohhh |
| 20:49.35 | Lone_Wanderer | I LOVE the press secretary now. |
| 20:49.38 | Lone_Wanderer | What's his name. |
| 20:51.22 | mindjuju | this is why I'll never work at a saw mill, timinator |
| 20:51.22 | mindjuju | http://www.metro.co.uk/weird/article.html?in_article_id=43397&in_page_id=2 |
| 20:51.36 | beandog | saw mill + weird = no clickie |
| 20:51.58 | Lone_Wanderer | Oh yeah, that's the one that has the picture of the bunnny. |
| 20:51.59 | Lone_Wanderer | -n |
| 20:52.42 | mgeary | best line of that article: "Which is easy for him to say." |
| 20:52.48 | timinator | lol |
| 20:52.51 | mindjuju | yeah |
| 20:53.34 | timinator | that's terrible |
| 20:54.21 | mindjuju | they should have some kind of safeguard OSHA thing to stop that! |
| 20:54.58 | timinator | how is OSHA supposed to stop a guy from putting his penis into a sawmill?!?! |
| 20:55.16 | mindjuju | i was just teasing |
| 20:55.23 | timinator | LOLOL |
| 20:55.32 | mindjuju | yeah, how did said appendage "jump out" to get caught |
| 20:55.53 | timinator | no, it said, "unfortunate saw-mill penis incident" |
| 20:57.30 | timinator | A spokesman for Parafield Gardens Saw Mill said: 'He got caught in the log moving mechanism on one of the saws.' |
| 20:57.49 | mindjuju | what was his log doing on the mechanism? |
| 20:59.28 | timinator | that's like putting your hand into a garbage disposal while it's running |
| 21:03.58 | Lone_Wanderer | Actually I think it'd be more like putting your penis into a garbage disposal while it's running. |
| 21:04.03 | Lone_Wanderer | ;p |
| 21:04.12 | timinator | :) |
| 21:04.17 | timinator | for sure |
| 21:05.02 | Lone_Wanderer | Okay, this calls for drastic measures |
| 21:05.28 | timinator | I'm surprised it didn't analyze his body for usable board footage, then chop him into 2x4 Studs |
| 21:05.37 | Lone_Wanderer | ...actually, I don't even know what drastic measures vis a vis removing an onion smell from your hands would be. |
| 21:05.56 | Lone_Wanderer | That'd be great. |
| 21:06.07 | Lone_Wanderer | "He wasn't *a* stud, he was about five of them." |
| 21:07.06 | Lone_Wanderer | So your sawmills automatically analyze the logs and then cut them in the most efficient way? |
| 21:10.37 | timinator | yessir |
| 21:10.43 | timinator | it's a bad ass machine |
| 21:10.49 | timinator | 0 waste |
| 21:10.51 | Lone_Wanderer | that's cool |
| 21:10.53 | Lone_Wanderer | zero? |
| 21:10.58 | Lone_Wanderer | what about the sawdust? |
| 21:11.08 | timinator | eh.. okay. |
| 21:11.12 | Lone_Wanderer | Or does it cut the logs with OMGLASERS? |
| 21:11.24 | timinator | pretty close |
| 21:11.30 | timinator | $3.5 mill |
| 21:11.39 | timinator | for the sawmill alone |
| 21:11.42 | Lone_Wanderer | Oh, dang, I thought you were going to say "We save that for (some cool use)." |
| 21:11.53 | Lone_Wanderer | Have you read... |
| 21:12.00 | Lone_Wanderer | no, you haven't. A River Runs Through It. |
| 21:12.02 | Lone_Wanderer | You NEED TO. |
| 21:12.07 | timinator | the waste is turned into chips.... for walmart |
| 21:12.14 | timinator | I need to |
| 21:12.16 | mgeary | ...furniture |
| 21:12.25 | Lone_Wanderer | It's got a story, Logging and Pimping and Your Pal, Jim |
| 21:12.32 | Lone_Wanderer | Great story. |
| 21:12.34 | Lone_Wanderer | Great book. |
| 21:13.08 | timinator | I'll check it out |
| 21:17.56 | thebigdog | too bad you cant smack someone via tcp/ip |
| 21:18.27 | Lone_Wanderer | Oh man. |
| 21:19.03 | Lone_Wanderer | If that protocol were implemented, you know there'd be a ton of murders overnight in the form of distributed packet floods. |
| 21:23.30 | timinator | LOL |
| 21:25.49 | Lone_Wanderer | is there a relatively painless way to put a music collection online? |
| 21:27.07 | mindjuju | your own computer with a public IP |
| 21:27.13 | _psychic_ | anyone know mod_rewrite in here? |
| 21:27.33 | mindjuju | course though, winamp supposedly has some kind of remote feature, but i haven't looked into it |
| 21:28.03 | Lone_Wanderer | ohh, that's a good idea. |
| 21:28.17 | Lone_Wanderer | I'll just get a static IP when I move into my new apartment. |
| 21:28.30 | mindjuju | yup |
| 21:28.59 | Lone_Wanderer | Then how do I make the music accessible? Do I need some kind of server? |
| 21:29.52 | mindjuju | depends on how you want to do it |
| 21:30.28 | mindjuju | if you want quick and painless where you could listen to music anywhere, you could try just running a little web page on your box from home, but where you get a flash mp3 player and embed that into a web page |
| 21:30.50 | mindjuju | some of the free ones will let you build xml playlists, build several playlists and hit as a web page |
| 21:31.01 | Lone_Wanderer | ohh, that wouldn't be bad at all. |
| 21:31.04 | mindjuju | then when your at the library, or a friend's or at work, you can hear your stuff that way |
| 21:31.10 | mindjuju | that's how i was going to do it |
| 21:31.16 | Lone_Wanderer | but then...? |
| 21:31.36 | mindjuju | then i decided to just scrap a box together, pile all my music on it and take it to work |
| 21:31.46 | Lone_Wanderer | heh, cool |
| 21:33.05 | mindjuju | course i'm a music fanatic so i've got like 45g of music |
| 21:33.19 | Lone_Wanderer | ahhh |
| 21:33.22 | Lone_Wanderer | I don't have that much. |
| 21:33.40 | Lone_Wanderer | I don't think anyway. If I ripped all my CDs I'd probably have... |
| 21:33.52 | Lone_Wanderer | about 20gigs or so |
| 21:35.45 | Utah_Dave | Lone_Wanderer: you might try http://www.mp3tunes.com/ |
| 21:36.05 | Utah_Dave | a co-worker of mine has like 40 gigs of his music on there. |
| 21:36.28 | Utah_Dave | you can play it through a flash player, or you can play winamp playlists from it. |
| 21:36.31 | Utah_Dave | it's pretty cool |
| 21:36.49 | Lone_Wanderer | nice |
| 21:37.18 | Utah_Dave | anyway, I'm leaving early today. Later guys |
| 21:37.20 | *** part/#uphpu Utah_Dave (n=boucha@72-166-51-162.dia.static.qwest.net) |
| 21:37.24 | Lone_Wanderer | I wonder if they store multiple copies of a single song |
| 21:37.34 | mindjuju | prolly |
| 21:37.37 | Lone_Wanderer | or if two or more people have the same song, if they just keep one copy and play it for both of them |
| 21:37.59 | mindjuju | though, it's services like these that remidn me of the original purpose of netzero and the companies like it |
| 21:38.04 | Lone_Wanderer | Probably the overhead of keeping track of who has what would be more expensive than just buying more disk space. |
| 21:38.12 | Lone_Wanderer | What do you mean? |
| 21:38.38 | mindjuju | well, originally netzero came about to offer free internet service, as long as you watched their commercials at the bottom of the netzero browser |
| 21:38.49 | mindjuju | the business model didn't have merit and it failed |
| 21:38.59 | Lone_Wanderer | yeah |
| 21:39.06 | mindjuju | i guess what i'm saying is, can you imagine the bandwidth of streaming everybody's music to them? |
| 21:39.12 | macnewbold | it's a lot |
| 21:39.19 | macnewbold | you should check out joost too |
| 21:39.23 | Lone_Wanderer | Yeah, I was wondering how they make money. |
| 21:39.26 | macnewbold | it's online television, from the skype guys |
| 21:39.31 | Lone_Wanderer | joost is p2p though |
| 21:39.35 | macnewbold | a little bit |
| 21:39.35 | Lone_Wanderer | which blows my mind |
| 21:39.39 | mindjuju | i stream about 200 multimedia files and we're having to upgrade our colo bandwidth |
| 21:39.59 | mindjuju | so, it's a cool service, but i wonder how long it will last? |
| 21:40.07 | macnewbold | joost? It's going to go all the way |
| 21:40.11 | macnewbold | they've got a good profit model |
| 21:40.15 | Lone_Wanderer | I think he meant the other one. |
| 21:40.26 | macnewbold | oh, that one |
| 21:40.27 | macnewbold | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:40.31 | macnewbold | yeah, they're going to die |
| 21:40.46 | mindjuju | well, joost actually made Forbes, top 10 sites to watch |
| 21:40.58 | mindjuju | where the business model was viable and had some serious VC behind it |
| 21:41.00 | Lone_Wanderer | Not surprised. |
| 21:41.23 | mindjuju | course, in that same list, there were some really goofy things that i didn't agree with |
| 21:41.32 | Lone_Wanderer | Speaking of startups, the next round of Y Combinator VCage starts soon. |
| 21:41.41 | mindjuju | like there were a couple of spinoffs of digg and stuff that i thought would surely sink |
| 21:42.10 | Lone_Wanderer | Reddit's doing fine. |
| 21:43.33 | mindjuju | actually macnewbold, my bad, not Forbes, it was CNN Money |
| 21:43.34 | mindjuju | http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2007/biz2/0702/gallery.nextnet.biz2/6.html |
| 21:43.41 | macnewbold | interesting |
| 21:44.48 | mindjuju | like this one, http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2007/biz2/0702/gallery.nextnet.biz2/8.html |
| 21:44.52 | mindjuju | how did that make the list? |
| 21:46.42 | mindjuju | this one is cool, http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2007/biz2/0702/gallery.nextnet.biz2/12.html |
| 21:48.00 | mindjuju | i don't know, maybe i'm being critical, but i just don't see the societal need or desire for something like this http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2007/biz2/0702/gallery.nextnet.biz2/14.html |
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| 21:55.27 | brasto | hi yawl |
| 21:55.41 | mindjuju | sup brasto |
| 21:55.51 | brasto | i installed php from source, and installed libtidy via freebsd's ports |
| 21:55.53 | mindjuju | hey, so your giving the next lecture, aren't you? |
| 21:55.58 | brasto | yep |
| 21:56.20 | brasto | votes decided on the ical standard |
| 21:58.22 | brasto | when i try to do ./configure [allOtherSwitches] ----with-tidy |
| 21:58.25 | brasto | i get: |
| 21:58.38 | brasto | configure: error: Cannot find libtidy |
| 21:58.47 | brasto | I've tried this as well: |
| 21:59.03 | brasto | which tidy |
| 21:59.03 | brasto | /usr/local/bin/tidy |
| 21:59.32 | brasto | --with-tidy=shared |
| 21:59.59 | brasto | --with-tidy=/usr/local/bin/tidy |
| 22:00.09 | brasto | --with-tidy=/usr/local/bin |
| 22:00.15 | brasto | --with-tidy=shared,/usr/local/bin/tidy |
| 22:00.22 | brasto | --with-tidy=shared,/usr/local/bin |
| 22:00.38 | brasto | /brasto wants tidy! |
| 22:00.45 | brasto | doh! |
| 22:01.10 | brasto | so, who's the php install guru? |
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| 22:08.00 | mgeary | how did you install tidy? |
| 22:08.06 | mgeary | did you install the headers? |
| 22:08.19 | mgeary | tidy-dev, or whatever your package manager may call it? |
| 22:08.58 | mgeary | sorry, i can help, but i've got to run. if you don't have it tomorrow, ping me |
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| 22:18.36 | thebigdog | brasto you get that working yet? |
| 22:18.57 | beandog | brasto: whats wrong |
| 22:19.00 | brasto | i ran make install on /ports/www/tidy |
| 22:19.20 | beandog | do whereis tidy |
| 22:19.42 | thebigdog | and your trying to compile php with tidy? |
| 22:19.49 | beandog | do you have htmltidy installed? |
| 22:20.17 | beandog | I guess its the same thing. |
| 22:21.05 | beandog | oh |
| 22:21.17 | beandog | you need to do --with-tidy=/usr/lib/tidy |
| 22:21.18 | beandog | probably |
| 22:21.24 | beandog | its gonna link against the libraries |
| 22:21.38 | thebigdog | or add tidy to the lib system via ldconfig |
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| 22:22.29 | beandog | and what version of php are you installing |
| 22:23.48 | brasto | sorry, on a call |
| 22:24.01 | brasto | i did that |
| 22:24.27 | brasto | oh, i mean i did the --tidy you sugested |
| 22:24.35 | brasto | ldconfig? |
| 22:35.14 | thebigdog | run ldconfig as root |
| 22:35.35 | thebigdog | then run ldconfig again with the print options |
| 22:35.41 | thebigdog | cant remember what that is on freebsd |
| 22:35.48 | thebigdog | then you can grep for tidy |
| 22:35.56 | thebigdog | see if you have the libs there |
| 22:38.20 | brasto | thebigdog, something like: ldconfig /usr/local/bin/tidy |
| 22:38.20 | brasto | ? |
| 22:38.38 | thebigdog | if you have libs in the /usr/local/bin but i doubt it |
| 22:38.43 | thebigdog | just run ldconfig as root |
| 22:38.47 | thebigdog | $ ldconfig |
| 22:39.13 | thebigdog | that will rebuild its cache |
| 22:39.24 | thebigdog | then run ldconfig -p | grep tidy |
| 22:39.49 | thebigdog | if that prints something then you have the lib available for compiling |
| 22:39.58 | thebigdog | and it will tell you where it is |
| 22:40.11 | thebigdog | if not then you will need to search for it |
| 22:40.57 | beandog | whereis should tell you |
| 22:41.02 | beandog | # whereis tidy |
| 22:41.02 | beandog | tidy: /usr/bin/tidy /usr/X11R6/bin/tidy /usr/include/tidy.h /usr/share/man/man1/tidy.1.gz |
| 22:41.15 | thebigdog | yeah |
| 22:41.28 | brasto | oh, yea, i know where tidy is |
| 22:41.37 | beandog | just do --with-tidy |
| 22:41.38 | brasto | that's above... |
| 22:41.39 | thebigdog | rhunter@zeus ~ $ /sbin/ldconfig -p | grep tidy |
| 22:41.39 | thebigdog | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:41.39 | beandog | that should work |
| 22:41.41 | brasto | one moment |
| 22:41.46 | beandog | what version of php is this? |
| 22:43.08 | brasto | (2007-03-30 15:59:04) brasto: which tidy |
| 22:43.08 | brasto | (2007-03-30 15:59:04) brasto: /usr/local/bin/tidy |
| 22:43.08 | brasto | (2007-03-30 15:59:33) brasto: --with-tidy=shared |
| 22:43.08 | brasto | (2007-03-30 16:00:00) brasto: --with-tidy=/usr/local/bin/tidy |
| 22:43.08 | brasto | (2007-03-30 16:00:10) brasto: --with-tidy=/usr/local/bin |
| 22:43.08 | brasto | (2007-03-30 16:00:17) brasto: --with-tidy=shared,/usr/local/bin/tidy |
| 22:43.10 | brasto | (2007-03-30 16:00:23) brasto: --with-tidy=shared,/usr/local/bin |
| 22:43.12 | brasto | (2007-03-30 16:00:39) brasto: /brasto wants tidy! |
| 22:43.16 | beandog | brasto: ^^ |
| 22:43.16 | brasto | php 5 |
| 22:43.18 | beandog | ok |
| 22:43.30 | beandog | dont link to bin |
| 22:43.36 | beandog | gotta link to the library |
| 22:44.13 | beandog | did you with *just* --with-tidy |
| 22:44.18 | brasto | ah, so ln -s /usr/local/bin/tidy /usr/local/lib/tidy ? |
| 22:44.23 | beandog | no |
| 22:44.28 | thebigdog | lol |
| 22:44.39 | brasto | yes, i tried with just --tidy |
| 22:44.50 | beandog | "--with-tidy" not "--tidy" |
| 22:44.58 | beandog | right? |
| 22:45.02 | thebigdog | y |
| 22:45.03 | brasto | yes |
| 22:45.05 | beandog | ok |
| 22:45.20 | thebigdog | so when you do that brasto what do you get? |
| 22:45.22 | beandog | thebigdog: odd ... if the libs are in /usr/lib/ he should be fine. |
| 22:45.30 | beandog | ./configure --with-tidy | grep -i tidy |
| 22:45.41 | beandog | checking for TIDY support... yes |
| 22:45.43 | beandog | should get that ^^ |
| 22:45.59 | brasto | yes, but then: |
| 22:46.49 | brasto | checking for TIDY support... yes, shared |
| 22:46.50 | brasto | configure: error: Cannot find libtidy |
| 22:47.13 | thebigdog | use ldconfig to see if you have libtidy |
| 22:47.21 | beandog | he did, it spit it out |
| 22:47.27 | thebigdog | that was mine |
| 22:47.32 | beandog | oh, doh. |
| 22:48.10 | beandog | equery f htmltidy ;) |
| 22:48.18 | brasto | freebsd man page usage: ldconfig [-aout | -elf] [-Rimrsv] [-f hints_file] [directory | file ...] |
| 22:48.24 | brasto | there's no -p |
| 22:48.29 | brasto | closest is... |
| 22:48.32 | beandog | what does "whereis tidy" say |
| 22:48.46 | beandog | oh its in /usr/local/lib |
| 22:48.59 | brasto | -r List the current contents of the hints file on the standard out- |
| 22:49.00 | brasto | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:49.01 | beandog | ./configure --with-tidy=/usr/local/lib/tidy | grep -i tidy |
| 22:49.40 | thebigdog | how many developers does it take to screw in a light bulb? |
| 22:49.50 | mindjuju | 2? |
| 22:49.56 | brasto | whereis tidy gives the same path i've mentioned: /usr/local/bin/tidy |
| 22:49.57 | thebigdog | 0? hardware issue |
| 22:50.06 | thebigdog | lol |
| 22:50.08 | mindjuju | how funny |
| 22:50.11 | beandog | brasto: is that all it says? |
| 22:50.50 | brasto | whereis tidy |
| 22:50.51 | brasto | Warning: couldn't stat file /usr/share/perl/man! |
| 22:50.51 | brasto | tidy: /usr/local/bin/tidy /usr/local/man/man1/tidy.1.gz /usr/ports/www/tidy |
| 22:51.11 | beandog | hmm. |
| 22:51.12 | beandog | thats odd. |
| 22:51.20 | beandog | oh well, try that configure scirpt |
| 22:51.23 | beandog | above |
| 22:54.24 | macnewbold | ~yow |
| 22:54.40 | brasto | same thing: |
| 22:54.41 | brasto | checking for TIDY support... yes |
| 22:54.42 | brasto | configure: error: Cannot find libtidy |
| 22:55.09 | beandog | dunno, man |
| 22:55.10 | beandog | weird. |
| 22:55.12 | beandog | try it anyway |
| 22:55.42 | thebigdog | use locate or slocate to find the lib if you can |
| 22:56.02 | thebigdog | if you have libtidy anywhere on the system you can get it working |
| 22:56.15 | thebigdog | if nto then you need to rebuild tidy to provide the lib |
| 22:57.33 | brasto | tidy -v |
| 22:57.33 | brasto | HTML Tidy release date: 4th August 2000 |
| 22:57.33 | brasto | See http://www.w3.org/People/Raggett for details |
| 22:57.40 | brasto | is that an old tidy? |
| 22:58.04 | thebigdog | you used portage to build tidy? |
| 22:58.12 | thebigdog | or ports? |
| 22:58.16 | beandog | he's on BSD |
| 22:58.20 | beandog | I assume |
| 22:58.24 | thebigdog | yeah |
| 22:58.35 | beandog | ask macnewbold, the all knowing eye |
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| 23:00.18 | brasto | ports |
| 23:00.57 | brasto | i'll try installing tidy via source on http://support.office-shadow.com/installer/tidy2.0.tar.gz |
| 23:01.24 | macnewbold | FreeBSD rocks |
| 23:01.44 | macnewbold | try using portupgrade |
| 23:01.44 | mindjuju | but does it rack the casbah ? |
| 23:01.49 | macnewbold | totally, mindjuju, totally |
| 23:01.54 | macnewbold | well, almost |
| 23:02.01 | mindjuju | oops, meant to say rock the casbah |
| 23:02.01 | beandog | shouldnt that be rock? |
| 23:02.05 | beandog | ~lart mindjuju |
| 23:02.05 | jbot | hooks into a hydrant and hoses mindjuju down |
| 23:02.06 | mindjuju | yeah, my bad |
| 23:02.08 | macnewbold | it rocks the casbah to be more specific |
| 23:02.13 | macnewbold | happy weekend everyone |
| 23:02.25 | mindjuju | cya |
| 23:02.31 | beandog | youre leaving already? |
| 23:02.32 | beandog | slackers! |
| 23:02.41 | mindjuju | i'm still here for a coule hours |
| 23:02.46 | beandog | oh |
| 23:02.48 | beandog | me too. |
| 23:02.49 | mindjuju | was saying bye to mac as he was leaving |
| 23:03.02 | beandog | mindjuju: any good at javascript? |
| 23:03.09 | mindjuju | eh, i'm alright |
| 23:03.12 | mindjuju | what you got? |
| 23:03.40 | beandog | nothing much yet |
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| 23:04.45 | thebigdog | brasto, i would check with macnewbold and see why the port did not create the lib |
| 23:05.30 | macnewbold | I usually try make clean install if I'm running into problems |
| 23:05.40 | macnewbold | or maybe make update in /usr/ports/, then try again |
| 23:09.48 | brasto | aha! |
| 23:09.48 | brasto | i think i found it. |
| 23:09.57 | brasto | there's a separate port for tidy-lib |
| 23:10.51 | brasto | :) |
| 23:10.52 | thebigdog | ouch that sucks |
| 23:11.12 | brasto | lol, it seems it's these little things that can take the most time... |
| 23:13.56 | seant23 | how do you do the actions in this thing? |
| 23:15.44 | brasto | ot - you do *bolded* to bold something (certain clients only) and _underlined_ to underline something (same restriction)... how do you do italics? |
| 23:18.32 | seant23 | * ok |
| 23:18.51 | seant23 | wait so you put a star at the beginning? |
| 23:19.44 | mindjuju | hey sceant23 copy this into your browser, except with no spaces at the begining |
| 23:19.46 | brasto | no, you put "/" then me |
| 23:19.49 | mindjuju | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:20.08 | seant23 | 02 /me likes pizza01 |
| 23:20.21 | mindjuju | k, now delete the space from before the / |
| 23:20.21 | brasto | lol, you have a space at the beginning |
| 23:20.22 | seant23 | ahhh |
| 23:20.28 | seant23 | cool |
| 23:20.40 | seant23 | thanks |
| 23:20.44 | mindjuju | fo sho! |
| 23:20.50 | mindjuju | then you can do cool stuff like |
| 23:21.00 | mindjuju | or |
| 23:21.28 | brasto | /brasto dances around cube - he got --with-tidy to work! |
| 23:21.33 | brasto | doh! |
| 23:21.38 | thebigdog | haha |
| 23:21.38 | brasto | i keep doing that... |
| 23:21.58 | brasto | thanks guys for your help |
| 23:25.32 | mindjuju | hmmm... i'm going to have to think of somethign that will top that |
| 23:25.58 | mindjuju | front242 - headhunter |
| 23:27.09 | thebigdog | ill do better |
| 23:27.20 | mindjuju | can't beat NIN HLH |
| 23:27.25 | thebigdog | infected mushrooms -> psycho |
| 23:27.39 | thebigdog | ouch...with his own music |
| 23:27.48 | mindjuju | ...er... |
| 23:27.57 | thebigdog | now i could have did |
| 23:28.05 | thebigdog | bad religion - the defense |
| 23:28.17 | thebigdog | but i choose to pounce |
| 23:29.24 | thebigdog | but i do have some white zombie - grindhouse a gogo for you waiting in the wind |
| 23:29.53 | mindjuju | i admit, you almost got me... |
| 23:30.21 | mindjuju | !whew! |
| 23:30.37 | thebigdog | oh wait - voodoo glow skulls - this aint no disco |
| 23:30.46 | thebigdog | bam bam |
| 23:31.06 | thebigdog | and i'll give you some of this too |
| 23:31.18 | thebigdog | voodoo glow skulls - los hombres no llorah |
| 23:32.46 | thebigdog | yeah!!! |
| 23:33.11 | mindjuju | how does one battle the Cure? |
| 23:33.17 | brasto | you think those are bad... check this one out: |
| 23:33.18 | thebigdog | you cant |
| 23:33.26 | brasto | brastotack mindjuju |
| 23:33.32 | brasto | doh! |
| 23:33.39 | thebigdog | lol |
| 23:33.40 | brasto | ~brastotack mindjuju |
| 23:33.47 | jbot | ACTION lectures mindjuju on properly designed databases, normalization, writing quality code with comments, and active-voice writing until mindjuju can't take anymore and goes berserk. |
| 23:34.01 | mindjuju | heh |
| 23:34.05 | mindjuju | that's a good one |
| 23:34.59 | thebigdog | YEAH!!! |
| 23:35.11 | mindjuju | have you seen that movie? |
| 23:35.16 | thebigdog | yep |
| 23:35.44 | thebigdog | the last one i had was d.r.i - spandex enormity |
| 23:35.54 | thebigdog | now thats a classic |
| 23:35.55 | mindjuju | yeah, just hit myself on the head, what geek that lived in the 80's hasn't |
| 23:36.28 | thebigdog | its been about 10yrs since i have though |
| 23:36.53 | thebigdog | last time i watched it was like in jan 97 |
| 23:37.00 | mindjuju | yeah, prolly about the same for me |
| 23:37.23 | mindjuju | my wife was interested to see what it was all about, cause i remembered the green glowing orb and that it had funny stories |
| 23:37.43 | mindjuju | i didn't remember very clearly, that the movie was 90% NSFW |
| 23:40.07 | mindjuju | man, what i wouldn't give for some Talking Heads |
| 23:41.30 | thebigdog | im out |
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