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| 14:12.14 | dataw0lf | morning |
| 14:14.02 | jsmith | Hey dataw0lf |
| 14:14.06 | jsmith | Have a good weekend? |
| 14:14.17 | dataw0lf | pretty decent. |
| 14:14.25 | dataw0lf | you? any repeats of the car fiasco? |
| 14:14.30 | jsmith | Nope... |
| 14:14.35 | jsmith | I'm good |
| 14:14.50 | jsmith | Didn't get anything done that I wanted to, but it was a fairly good weekend |
| 14:15.47 | mindjuju | yeah, know what you mean |
| 14:16.32 | mindjuju | and my wife and I have agreed to never again inform our son of what exact day his birthday is. He woke up this morn at 4a excited and couldn't go back to sleep |
| 14:17.30 | dataw0lf | hehe |
| 14:17.35 | dataw0lf | like Christmas Eve |
| 14:17.43 | mindjuju | yup |
| 14:17.50 | dataw0lf | don't you kinda miss being 10 and waiting up until 2 am too excited too sleep? |
| 14:17.58 | dataw0lf | then you wake up at 3:30 and drag your parents out of bed |
| 14:18.01 | jsmith | Miss is a strong word... |
| 14:18.09 | mindjuju | heh |
| 14:18.13 | dataw0lf | thus the kinda modifier, sir! |
| 14:18.26 | jsmith | mindjuju: You didn't know there were two different 4 o'clocks in the day, did you... |
| 14:18.34 | dataw0lf | I wish I could transplant my brain into my 8 year old body |
| 14:18.39 | dataw0lf | think of the trouble one could cause |
| 14:18.54 | jsmith | Yeah... but then you'd have to wait another 8 years to drive |
| 14:19.05 | mindjuju | ooh, true that |
| 14:20.41 | dataw0lf | what's the thoughts on my last post, regarding PHP versus Godzilla |
| 14:21.03 | dataw0lf | err, Ruby, et. al |
| 14:21.04 | mindjuju | was just reading it |
| 14:21.09 | dataw0lf | they both come from Japan! |
| 14:25.11 | mindjuju | hmmm... i wonder what others will say |
| 14:25.46 | dataw0lf | in this thread, Greedo DOESN'T shoot first |
| 14:25.55 | dataw0lf | hey synic |
| 14:26.06 | synic | yo |
| 14:26.14 | mindjuju | course! Han shoots first |
| 14:26.15 | dataw0lf | I like yer new blogz |
| 14:26.36 | dataw0lf | mindjuju: I'm the programming equivalent of Han. Just think about it for a while. |
| 14:26.40 | synic | thanks! |
| 14:26.50 | dataw0lf | synic: Added my own smart ass comment |
| 14:26.55 | dataw0lf | those are the only type I leave |
| 14:27.12 | dataw0lf | mindjuju: I'm kind of scruffy, I'm snide, see where this is going?! |
| 14:27.14 | synic | heh, hrmm. I didn't get an email. I think I'm supposed to when someone makes a comment. |
| 14:27.19 | dataw0lf | k, maybe wishful thinking. |
| 14:27.22 | dataw0lf | synic: just added it |
| 14:28.15 | dataw0lf | well, you really have to say bigdog is Chewie |
| 14:28.21 | dataw0lf | I mean, is there really any other option |
| 14:28.25 | dataw0lf | and tierra, he's an ewok |
| 14:28.42 | dataw0lf | mac is darth vader! |
| 14:28.51 | jsmith | s/image/imagine/ |
| 14:28.52 | mindjuju | and jbot, c3p0 or r2d2 |
| 14:28.54 | dataw0lf | jsmith: THE EMPEROR! |
| 14:28.59 | dataw0lf | ;-) |
| 14:29.06 | synic | hrmm, yeah, I don't think it even showed up. |
| 14:29.10 | jsmith | dataw0lf: Naw, I think you've got the look for it |
| 14:29.13 | synic | broken. |
| 14:29.25 | dataw0lf | jsmith: hehe |
| 14:29.42 | dataw0lf | synic: hm, switch to Django and use FreeComments. huzzah! |
| 14:30.15 | synic | but textpattern is so cool (it'll be even better once it starts working) |
| 14:31.12 | synic | um, are you sure you submitted it after previewing? It worked for me. |
| 14:33.09 | dataw0lf | o. |
| 14:33.11 | dataw0lf | nevermind |
| 14:33.40 | dataw0lf | anyone else want to make me look like a dumbarse? Free for all! |
| 14:33.54 | synic | haha |
| 14:33.58 | jsmith | I don't even have to try ;-) |
| 14:34.21 | dataw0lf | don't make me lower your planetary shields, Emperor. |
| 14:34.45 | jsmith | Besides, all I have to say is "perpendicular hard drive tease" |
| 14:35.05 | dataw0lf | hmph |
| 14:35.34 | jsmith | Happy Monday! |
| 14:36.09 | dataw0lf | weirdest thing ever |
| 14:36.25 | dataw0lf | as soon as you said Happy Monday, a girl who works here walked by me and said the exact same thing |
| 14:37.02 | dataw0lf | I had this moment where the internet and real life collided, and I was afloat in a sea of confusion. |
| 14:38.41 | _psychic_ | real life? |
| 14:39.42 | dataw0lf | it's this 4 dimensional reality which I sullenly inhabit. |
| 14:40.09 | jsmith | dataw0lf: Great minds think alike... |
| 14:40.43 | dataw0lf | she's in web compliance.... |
| 14:46.50 | mindjuju | i think in this case, i wouldn't mind having the gov watch my keystrokes, at least it would save me $40. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=9112083 |
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| 14:51.13 | mindjuju | hey thebigdog , or should I say chewie |
| 14:51.41 | thebigdog | ~slap mindjuju |
| 14:51.43 | jbot | ACTION slaps mindjuju, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 14:52.10 | mindjuju | thebigdog, here is the explination |
| 14:52.11 | mindjuju | (08:28:00) ***mindjuju sees where this is going but is wondering who in the channel would be Chewie |
| 14:52.11 | mindjuju | (08:28:19) dataw0lf: well, you really have to say bigdog is Chewie |
| 14:52.37 | thebigdog | oh that is nice |
| 14:52.39 | thebigdog | ty dataw0lf |
| 14:52.58 | mindjuju | dataw0lf was saying the is the Han Solo of coding |
| 14:53.12 | thebigdog | that is a negative |
| 14:53.36 | dataw0lf | psh |
| 14:53.54 | thebigdog | lol |
| 14:53.58 | thebigdog | ~love dataw0lf |
| 14:54.00 | jbot | If you love dataw0lf so much, why don't you marry it? (oooooh) |
| 14:54.11 | thebigdog | ~marry dataw0lf |
| 14:54.52 | thebigdog | wow not many here this morning |
| 14:57.36 | thebigdog | did anyone catch that vh1 show on youtube vidoes |
| 14:57.50 | mindjuju | nope |
| 14:58.54 | mindjuju | hey, i know what i'm getting dataw0lf for Xmas -- http://cube.ign.com/articles/585/585543p1.html |
| 14:59.12 | thebigdog | http://www.vh1.com/shows/dyn/the_greatest/115766/episode_featured_copy.jhtml |
| 14:59.35 | thebigdog | star wars kid should have been #1 |
| 15:00.12 | thebigdog | #10 ask a ninja was good |
| 15:00.21 | thebigdog | i love those guys |
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| 15:00.54 | mindjuju | yeah, as a ninja is awesome |
| 15:01.07 | mindjuju | its sad to see all the copycat ones cause they really sux |
| 15:01.10 | thebigdog | cop that shoots himself was good |
| 15:01.12 | mindjuju | like as a pirate |
| 15:01.18 | thebigdog | yeah |
| 15:01.23 | mindjuju | why don't these link to the actual vid though? |
| 15:01.26 | thebigdog | i guess those 2 are coming out with some others |
| 15:01.35 | thebigdog | yeah i thought that same thing |
| 15:02.12 | dataw0lf | ever seen any of the jesus christ supercop episodes? |
| 15:03.04 | thebigdog | nope are they good |
| 15:03.08 | mindjuju | yeah, star wars kid is far better than this |
| 15:03.08 | dataw0lf | omg |
| 15:03.27 | dataw0lf | Jesus Christ Supercop must chase down his arch nemesis, Nietzsche, who killed his father. |
| 15:03.28 | thebigdog | just the whole story of swk is the best |
| 15:03.31 | dataw0lf | yea, I'd say they're good. |
| 15:04.17 | mindjuju | have you see the version of star wars kid that has him with the song, Duel of the Fates? |
| 15:04.29 | thebigdog | not sure if i have |
| 15:04.35 | thebigdog | i have seen many |
| 15:05.55 | thebigdog | i think #4 jessica should not be counted |
| 15:06.12 | thebigdog | #3 average homeboy was hilarious |
| 15:06.45 | mindjuju | here it is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNbLCA4WHCk&NR |
| 15:08.08 | thebigdog | yeah i remember that one now...it is a classic |
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| 15:13.53 | mindjuju | that guy that took a picture of himself, everyday for 6 years is cool |
| 15:14.23 | thebigdog | kinda...i thought it was stupid really |
| 15:14.43 | mindjuju | it's unusual, true, but something about it |
| 15:15.55 | mindjuju | its funny to think back 6 years ago. I would have still had hair, i only started buzzing it about 3 years ago |
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| 15:16.42 | thebigdog | yeah 6 years is a long time |
| 15:16.59 | thebigdog | some of the comments from the show were kinda funny |
| 15:17.09 | mindjuju | i love vh1 |
| 15:17.21 | mindjuju | it sux that everybody has to copy their shows and show format |
| 15:17.28 | thebigdog | y |
| 15:18.03 | mindjuju | i see now on CMT, they have a show similar to best week evar |
| 15:19.38 | mindjuju | tron guy! how cool |
| 15:19.48 | thebigdog | y |
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| 15:27.37 | dataw0lf | http://stderr.ws/blog/entry/13/ |
| 15:32.02 | mindjuju | how did i miss this? cop shoots himself in the leg while he's saying he's the only one trained enough to handle it? |
| 15:32.09 | mindjuju | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=am-Qdx6vky0 |
| 15:32.43 | thebigdog | yeah that one is funny |
| 15:59.41 | dataw0lf | c'mon guys, you should all be shouting with glee about that PHP snippet I found! |
| 15:59.59 | thebigdog | ~yipee |
| 16:00.13 | thebigdog | anyone have a wiki they like to use that is db driven? |
| 16:00.36 | dataw0lf | yea |
| 16:00.38 | dataw0lf | 5 lines in Django! |
| 16:00.39 | dataw0lf | son! |
| 16:02.49 | _psychic__ | mediawiki is pretty solid |
| 16:03.08 | _psychic__ | can't really talk about code quality |
| 16:04.28 | mgeary | _psychic__: i had a lot of problems with spam on mediawiki |
| 16:04.35 | mgeary | but they might have worked that out since i used it |
| 16:04.49 | mgeary | ~1+ years ago |
| 16:05.11 | thebigdog | how does it manage accounts _psychic__ ? |
| 16:07.13 | _psychic__ | it doesn't much |
| 16:07.16 | _psychic__ | its a wiki, after all |
| 16:07.46 | thebigdog | people have to create accounts to edit the wiki though right? |
| 16:07.54 | dataw0lf | you know your girl is a nerd when she gets a cat and calls him 'regex' |
| 16:08.01 | dataw0lf | "He was parsing my trashcans!" |
| 16:08.10 | thebigdog | lol |
| 16:08.14 | PoeticIntensity | LL |
| 16:08.15 | PoeticIntensity | LOL |
| 16:08.17 | PoeticIntensity | that's awesome. |
| 16:08.27 | thebigdog | hey PoeticIntensity nice pics man |
| 16:08.40 | dataw0lf | I'm like, damn, woman, at least I called my dog 'Gidget', that's only half geeky |
| 16:09.02 | PoeticIntensity | thanks! |
| 16:09.11 | PoeticIntensity | thebigdog, did you go through em' all? |
| 16:09.16 | thebigdog | yeah |
| 16:09.27 | PoeticIntensity | I'm gettin' the video extracted today... |
| 16:09.39 | PoeticIntensity | hopefully I'll have some time to cut the good parts and put music to it. |
| 16:09.46 | thebigdog | nice |
| 16:10.18 | PoeticIntensity | here's to hopin, at least! |
| 16:10.27 | thebigdog | wow mediawiki supports pgsql and they use plpgsql |
| 16:10.36 | thebigdog | you dont see that much |
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| 16:11.01 | PoeticIntensity | Potentially stupid question alert: |
| 16:11.12 | PoeticIntensity | what does putting a "\" in front of a variable do? |
| 16:11.18 | PoeticIntensity | (in PHP) |
| 16:12.10 | thebigdog | prints out the variable name |
| 16:12.27 | thebigdog | dataw0lf nice emails |
| 16:12.27 | PoeticIntensity | :-? |
| 16:12.41 | thebigdog | that is my biggest issue with php - no namespacing |
| 16:12.42 | dataw0lf | thebigdog: danke |
| 16:12.57 | PoeticIntensity | Must be Monday. |
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| 16:52.55 | mindjuju | i think i might just build a linux box for this. looks to be the one button, "set it and forget it" solution for my DVD collection i've been looking for http://freshmeat.net/projects/dvdrip/?branch_id=20118&release_id=250174 |
| 16:55.48 | wps | ooo… the battle has begun on the mailing list |
| 16:55.55 | mindjuju | yup, was just going to say that |
| 16:55.59 | wps | dun… dun… dun… |
| 17:00.49 | dataw0lf | HAHAHA |
| 17:00.53 | dataw0lf | omg, this Trevor kid. |
| 17:00.59 | wps | :) |
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| 17:15.21 | mindjuju | i wonder how many more people will join the fray? |
| 17:20.47 | wps | why do people give a crap about anna nicole smith? |
| 17:20.53 | wps | I am so sick of her in the news |
| 17:21.55 | mindjuju | i generally agree, though i am a *little* curious to find out who the father is |
| 17:22.06 | wps | buy… I couldn't care less |
| 17:22.35 | wps | I am more interested in how many maggots live in your sewer drain |
| 17:22.58 | mindjuju | yeah, i personally haven't been watching the news lately, but i have heard they are really making a big wind about her and her death |
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| 17:29.08 | _psychic_ | wps: you might like this site ( I know I did) wtfcnn.blogspot.com |
| 17:30.29 | wps | wow |
| 17:30.32 | wps | some of those are crazy |
| 17:34.54 | dataw0lf | _psychic_: me respond funnily to your post |
| 17:35.13 | _psychic_ | dataw0lf: just now? |
| 17:35.18 | dataw0lf | yessir |
| 17:35.50 | _psychic_ | ad hominemites. |
| 17:35.53 | _psychic_ | nasty little suckers |
| 17:36.01 | dataw0lf | oh, I was talking about the UPHPU list |
| 17:36.03 | _psychic_ | their the arch nemesis of mitoclorians |
| 17:36.08 | _psychic_ | oh well |
| 17:36.09 | _psychic_ | there you go |
| 17:36.10 | dataw0lf | but, yea, that was a good one too |
| 17:39.04 | mindjuju | oh wow, the glvoes came off |
| 17:39.39 | mindjuju | dataw0lf, did you see the lates trevyn from about a minute ago |
| 17:40.27 | dataw0lf | I'm responding |
| 17:40.46 | _psychic_ | haha |
| 17:41.28 | _psychic_ | ROFL |
| 17:41.30 | _psychic_ | ""ad hominem" trying to look smart." |
| 17:41.34 | _psychic_ | hahaaahahahaha |
| 17:41.35 | mindjuju | yup |
| 17:41.39 | _psychic_ | dear goodness |
| 17:41.41 | _psychic_ | that's just too ironic |
| 17:41.48 | dataw0lf | check the email |
| 17:43.00 | _psychic_ | That's the funniest thing I think I've seen in a year |
| 17:44.12 | dataw0lf | k, nother message I sent |
| 17:47.25 | dataw0lf | who is Trevyn anyways? |
| 17:47.34 | dataw0lf | A member of PLUG? |
| 17:47.41 | dataw0lf | Did I really seem like I was flaming, I was trying not to. |
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| 17:56.10 | _psychic_ | dataw0lf: I wasn't bagging on the chainsaw man |
| 17:56.16 | _psychic_ | its all a matter of style |
| 17:56.24 | _psychic_ | I bust out the chainsaw on occasion myself |
| 17:57.15 | dataw0lf | yea, I just wanted to add a +10 Ad Hominemite comment in there. |
| 17:57.25 | _psychic_ | that's still killing me |
| 17:58.10 | _psychic_ | "I don't know what Ad Hominem is, mister smarty pants, but you're a poo poo head, so there! |
| 17:58.55 | dataw0lf | yea, that's like walking into the swing of a home run hitter |
| 17:59.27 | _psychic_ | lol |
| 18:15.35 | dataw0lf | I think I may have made him commit suicide. |
| 18:15.41 | dataw0lf | another one bites the dust... |
| 18:15.53 | dataw0lf | alright, who wants to be listed on my friends list on my blog? I'm replacing notables with friends |
| 18:16.01 | dataw0lf | got tierra, synic, and _psychic_ |
| 18:16.18 | dataw0lf | hating me counts as friendship, btw |
| 18:27.41 | synic | of course. |
| 18:29.43 | dataw0lf | what's Dan's blog again? livejournal.com/supergay/ ? |
| 18:29.49 | dataw0lf | Lone_Away ^^ |
| 18:29.51 | dataw0lf | where's he at |
| 18:37.00 | Lone_Wanderer | dataw0lf: supergay.livejournal.com :p |
| 18:37.27 | Lone_Wanderer | ( gracewanderer.livejournal.com ) |
| 18:39.30 | Lone_Wanderer | P.S. I got a dog! |
| 18:54.24 | mindjuju | well, that was anti-climatic |
| 18:54.34 | mindjuju | no response to dataw0lf 's last 3 emails |
| 19:00.23 | Lone_Wanderer | Hopefully he'll keep going |
| 19:00.32 | Lone_Wanderer | providing us all with entertainment for the day |
| 19:07.16 | mgeary | Lone_Wanderer: you got a dog. I got a truck |
| 19:07.59 | Lone_Wanderer | how is it? |
| 19:08.36 | mgeary | i like it |
| 19:08.50 | Lone_Wanderer | I like my dog. |
| 19:08.51 | mgeary | ended up going up to Menlove Toyota in Bountiful |
| 19:08.58 | mgeary | what kind of dog? |
| 19:09.03 | Lone_Wanderer | And I just told my friedn that I got a god this morning. |
| 19:09.09 | Lone_Wanderer | shepherd mix |
| 19:09.17 | Lone_Wanderer | friend* |
| 19:09.46 | Lone_Wanderer | Oh, and I broke up with my gf on Sunday too. |
| 19:09.49 | Lone_Wanderer | All in all a good weekend. |
| 19:10.04 | mgeary | trade a gf for a dog. some might consider that a bargain |
| 19:10.10 | Lone_Wanderer | No kidding. |
| 19:10.29 | Lone_Wanderer | I guarantee the dog is less likely to commit an ad hominem during an argument. |
| 19:15.24 | Lone_Wanderer | It's life, Jim, but not as we know it / Not as we know it / Not as we know it. |
| 19:19.36 | Lone_Wanderer | By the way, who is Jim? |
| 19:25.32 | _psychic_ | He's dead, Jim. |
| 19:25.45 | Lone_Wanderer | _psychic_: check out my latest comment on your CP80 page |
| 19:25.57 | _psychic_ | I say we go with your idea |
| 19:26.06 | _psychic_ | its the only thing we have, after all |
| 19:26.27 | Lone_Wanderer | Definitely. |
| 19:26.32 | jsmith | What, you've never heard of a latrine?!? |
| 19:26.36 | Lone_Wanderer | I mean it's FOOD, and they're just walking around with it. |
| 19:26.40 | _psychic_ | But what do us poo poo heads know |
| 19:26.41 | jsmith | Dang, wrong channel |
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| 19:26.45 | _psychic_ | lol |
| 19:26.52 | Lone_Wanderer | Not even taking advantage of such a prodigious supply of nourishment. |
| 19:26.53 | _psychic_ | jsmith: please don't tell us which the right one is |
| 19:27.03 | jsmith | #utah |
| 19:28.01 | _psychic_ | (or anyone, really) |
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| 19:56.27 | mgeary | _psychic_: i prefer the term "Oreminian" |
| 19:57.25 | mindjuju | oremian? |
| 19:57.28 | mgeary | or maybe origamian |
| 19:57.48 | mgeary | Oremista |
| 19:57.58 | mindjuju | we in Lehi, Utah perfer Lehite |
| 19:58.14 | mgeary | see, no i'm an Anti-Lehite |
| 19:58.25 | mgeary | or was it, Anti-Nephi-Lehite....? ;P |
| 19:58.31 | mindjuju | heh |
| 19:58.51 | mindjuju | curious |
| 19:59.12 | mindjuju | so a person that hates Nephi, utah that resides in Lehi, Utah WOULD be an AntiNephi-Lehi |
| 19:59.28 | wps | moce |
| 19:59.33 | wps | s/moce/nice/ |
| 20:03.07 | jsmith | wps: Is that in the AntiNephi-Lehi language? |
| 20:03.19 | wps | probably |
| 20:16.42 | _psychic_ | mgeary: yeah... Oremite sounds like a mineral |
| 20:17.17 | mgeary | :) |
| 20:17.43 | mgeary | of course, now i'm technically a Provoan... |
| 20:17.45 | mgeary | Provinian... |
| 20:17.48 | mgeary | Provost |
| 20:17.53 | mgeary | Provoker |
| 20:18.00 | _psychic_ | Provolone |
| 20:18.07 | mgeary | yeah! |
| 20:18.09 | mgeary | that's the one |
| 20:18.10 | _psychic_ | :) |
| 20:18.23 | mgeary | mmm. with turkey |
| 20:20.59 | mindjuju | WHAAAAAA!!! |
| 20:21.21 | mindjuju | there's another pirates of the caribbean? i haven't even seen the 2nd one yet |
| 20:30.43 | _psychic_ | mgeary: how do you diffs with TM? |
| 20:32.56 | dataw0lf | man |
| 20:32.59 | dataw0lf | this dude is a wuss |
| 20:33.09 | dataw0lf | where are his replies to my ad hominem ad hominem attacks? |
| 20:33.23 | dataw0lf | I was hoping for a ad hominem ad hominem ad hominem ad hominem attack |
| 20:33.31 | _psychic_ | I think he had to research to find a new fallacy |
| 20:33.39 | _psychic_ | maybe false dilemma or something |
| 20:34.43 | mindjuju | yeah, very anti-climatic |
| 20:34.59 | dataw0lf | I mean, if you're going to go ad hominem, let's go all the way. |
| 20:35.05 | dataw0lf | don't be embarrassed and run away. |
| 20:36.45 | dataw0lf | right? |
| 20:39.25 | _psychic_ | no, you're a dummy, so you're logic is flawed |
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| 20:44.34 | dataw0lf | your*, _psychic_ |
| 20:44.35 | dataw0lf | you dummy |
| 20:44.52 | mindjuju | here i thought there were 2 psychics |
| 20:45.09 | _psychic_ | mindjuju: I teleported... sometimes IRC has a hard time keeping up with me |
| 20:45.27 | _psychic_ | dataw0lf: oh well, 1+ 3 doesn't equal 57, so you clearly have no argument. |
| 20:45.29 | mindjuju | i wonder who would win? Ms Cleo v Dionne Worwick v _psychic_ |
| 20:45.37 | _psychic_ | I'd pwn |
| 20:46.24 | _psychic_ | I don't use social engineering nor pray on the gullible |
| 20:46.26 | _psychic_ | i use google. |
| 20:50.38 | mindjuju | here i thought you were communicating with the universe through an old 80286 and a stethescope |
| 20:51.16 | _psychic_ | as a last resort yes. |
| 20:51.21 | _psychic_ | and its not *old* |
| 20:51.23 | _psychic_ | :( |
| 20:56.46 | dataw0lf | I thought we were in an argument here. He posited that mod_php is faster Python, which is ridiculous. Now he's just giving me a rundown from one of the links I posted (where Django is the clear winner ala speed) |
| 20:57.15 | Lone_Wanderer | So call him on it. |
| 20:57.28 | dataw0lf | c'mon, who're you talking to, I'm responding. |
| 20:57.31 | Lone_Wanderer | Include prodigious quotations from earlier posts by him. |
| 20:57.43 | Lone_Wanderer | Well, I haven't checked yet. |
| 20:58.13 | Lone_Wanderer | By the way, I think my new dog's name is "Cat". |
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| 21:00.41 | dataw0lf | Really, any time I have to compete about Python, whenever any data is pulled where a language is faster than Python, I just import psyco and it's over. |
| 21:00.53 | dataw0lf | I've beaten excellent C programmers with Psyco. |
| 21:01.04 | dataw0lf | I doubt if PHP will ever, ever, ever match it, in it's current incarnation. |
| 21:01.18 | dataw0lf | and by match it, I mean come to within 5x Psyco's speed. |
| 21:01.29 | Lone_Wanderer | Indubitably. |
| 21:02.07 | dataw0lf | I have added supergay.livejournal.com to my website. I now expect you to mention me in every blog post you make, LW |
| 21:02.21 | *** join/#uphpu seant23 (n=seant23@69.27.17.186) |
| 21:02.25 | Lone_Wanderer | And by supergay you mean gracewanderer? |
| 21:02.31 | dataw0lf | rite |
| 21:02.34 | dataw0lf | ;-) |
| 21:02.37 | Lone_Wanderer | Excellent. |
| 21:03.05 | dataw0lf | alright, I have to explain this CodeIgniter code to one of these team leaders. |
| 21:03.10 | dataw0lf | bbiab |
| 21:06.07 | seant23 | hey all |
| 21:09.44 | Lone_Wanderer | helllo |
| 21:09.45 | Lone_Wanderer | -l |
| 21:10.16 | seant23 | so you guys are a php group for utah? |
| 21:10.23 | Lone_Wanderer | Yes. |
| 21:10.31 | seant23 | cool, well i do php in park city |
| 21:10.34 | Lone_Wanderer | cool |
| 21:10.42 | Lone_Wanderer | uphpu.org - you can sign up for a mailing list there |
| 21:10.46 | Lone_Wanderer | if you wish |
| 21:10.50 | seant23 | k i'll check it out |
| 21:12.31 | dataw0lf | seant23: Park City? where do you work at? |
| 21:13.41 | seant23 | place called summit media group, we do on demand movies for hotels |
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| 21:19.23 | _psychic_ | dataw0lf: you think ' |
| 21:19.49 | _psychic_ | dataw0lf: Python is faster (significantly) than PHP when they're both on FGCI and op-code cached? |
| 21:23.49 | dataw0lf | definitely. |
| 21:23.57 | dataw0lf | seant23: sounds cool. |
| 21:24.07 | Lone_Wanderer | seant23: Any idea what % of movies are normal as opposed to "adult"? |
| 21:24.14 | Lone_Wanderer | I've always been curious. |
| 21:24.37 | dataw0lf | to see how much he's affecting the Adult category, no doubt. |
| 21:24.40 | seant23 | well, utah has special rules on adult movies but from are studies in vegas its about 80% adult in hotels |
| 21:25.01 | Lone_Wanderer | That's nuts. |
| 21:25.06 | dataw0lf | dude |
| 21:25.08 | dataw0lf | you're in a hotel |
| 21:25.09 | dataw0lf | alone |
| 21:25.15 | dataw0lf | what're you going to do? |
| 21:25.16 | seant23 | but it probally didn't help that our study was at the hooters hotel :) |
| 21:25.24 | Lone_Wanderer | I normally sleep a bit, then read. |
| 21:25.29 | Lone_Wanderer | Err I mean. Read a bit, then sleep. |
| 21:25.32 | dataw0lf | I usually drink |
| 21:25.50 | Lone_Wanderer | Well, I can't read very well drunk. |
| 21:26.12 | dataw0lf | out of practice |
| 21:27.58 | Lone_Wanderer | Yeah, when I'm drunk I like to practice driving, not reading. |
| 21:28.07 | seant23 | lol |
| 21:44.51 | thebigdog | ~dance |
| 21:44.53 | jbot | ACTION does a pole dance with the Peekabo Pole Dance Kit |
| 21:44.57 | wps | AHHHHHH!!!!!! |
| 21:45.02 | dataw0lf | ahhhh, my thread becomes more active. |
| 21:45.05 | dataw0lf | ... |
| 21:45.09 | dataw0lf | did jbot just do a pole dance? |
| 21:45.09 | wps | a buffalo and three bulls escaped in Davis County!!! |
| 21:45.19 | dataw0lf | EVERYBODY PANIC! |
| 21:45.22 | wps | jbot, do a pole dance |
| 21:45.24 | jbot | ACTION does a pole dance. |
| 21:45.33 | dataw0lf | jbot, beat up wps. |
| 21:45.35 | jbot | ACTION relentlessly beats up wps. over the head with a Louisville Slugger |
| 21:45.36 | wps | sick, I didn't think he'd actually do it |
| 21:45.56 | Lone_Wanderer | sweet |
| 21:45.59 | Lone_Wanderer | jbot, crack a joke |
| 21:46.01 | jbot | ACTION cracks a joke 's rock in half and then proceeds to shatter the halves into tiny pieces |
| 21:46.12 | dataw0lf | jbot, attack someone in this channel |
| 21:46.13 | jbot | ACTION grabs a pen, screams like she's possessed, and begins chasing someone in this channel |
| 21:46.13 | Lone_Wanderer | Not exactly what I had in mind. |
| 21:46.26 | dataw0lf | jbot.. is a she |
| 21:46.28 | dataw0lf | sup jbot |
| 21:46.31 | dataw0lf | how ya doin' |
| 21:46.33 | Lone_Wanderer | So, buffalo and three bulls |
| 21:46.46 | wps | great… he now he's confused about his gender |
| 21:46.49 | Lone_Wanderer | Oh noes. They might stand around and stare stupidly in someone's direction. |
| 21:47.02 | dataw0lf | wps: that's from those damned gay protesters in front of BYU! |
| 21:47.03 | Lone_Wanderer | jbot, go round up those bulls and the buffalo. |
| 21:47.17 | wps | must be :) |
| 21:47.21 | dataw0lf | :-) |
| 21:47.44 | mgeary | _psychic_: hey |
| 21:47.50 | wps | I want a code-off at the next UPHPU meet'n |
| 21:47.51 | mgeary | sorry, i missed your TM/diff question |
| 21:47.55 | _psychic_ | yeah np |
| 21:47.57 | _psychic_ | dpm |
| 21:48.02 | _psychic_ | don't need it now, but still curious |
| 21:48.04 | mgeary | i use bbedit for diffs |
| 21:48.13 | dataw0lf | I ... use... diff |
| 21:48.17 | dataw0lf | wps: let's do it! |
| 21:48.17 | mgeary | it's soooo much better (for me, anyway) |
| 21:48.30 | _psychic_ | don't have it |
| 21:48.33 | dataw0lf | I'll fly to SLC for the occasion. |
| 21:48.43 | wps | would you really? |
| 21:48.46 | wps | wow |
| 21:48.52 | dataw0lf | sure, I need to visit anyways. |
| 21:49.14 | mgeary | dataw0lf: where are you located? |
| 21:50.32 | dataw0lf | mgeary: Reno |
| 21:50.36 | mgeary | ah |
| 21:50.38 | dataw0lf | used to live in SLC with ye losers. |
| 21:50.46 | dataw0lf | by 'ye losers' I mean bigdog |
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| 21:50.53 | dataw0lf | he's a loser X 2, thus the plural |
| 21:50.54 | dataw0lf | >_> |
| 21:50.56 | dataw0lf | <_< |
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| 21:51.59 | mgeary | hey, is there a way to have "du" output a human-friendly value, while sorting *numerically*? in other words, combine the best of "du -kh" with "du | sort -n" ? |
| 21:52.30 | optikal | I've wondered the same thing myself. |
| 21:52.43 | mgeary | :) |
| 21:53.01 | mgeary | ...but still ignorant |
| 21:53.03 | Lone_Wanderer | You can do the numerical output and then use sed and/or awk to do whatever you want with it. |
| 21:53.07 | Lone_Wanderer | *unhelpful* |
| 21:53.11 | dataw0lf | eine moment |
| 21:53.24 | mgeary | moment is a der word |
| 21:53.30 | mgeary | so it'd be einEN Moment |
| 21:53.37 | mgeary | get it right, willya? :) |
| 21:53.47 | optikal | I've got a quick mysql question.. trying to do a 'joined' query (not sure joined is the right name, but I think its obvious what I'm trying to do from this example string that obviously doesnt work, just trying to get across what I'm trying to do.. |
| 21:54.00 | optikal | SELECT `productid`,`productcode`,`product`,`descr` FROM `xcart_products` WHERE `productid`=SELECT `productid` FROM `xcart_products_categories` WHERE `categoryid`='249'; |
| 21:54.24 | dataw0lf | shouldn't be using a 'subselect' |
| 21:54.27 | thebigdog | try "in" in the where clause |
| 21:54.45 | seant23 | ya IN |
| 21:54.59 | thebigdog | but again...double check the execution on the query |
| 21:55.06 | thebigdog | i would not use a subselect either |
| 21:55.09 | thebigdog | unless in pgsql |
| 21:55.09 | Lone_Wanderer | a der word? |
| 21:55.22 | mgeary | masculine |
| 21:55.24 | Lone_Wanderer | Like, "It's "moment", derr. What are you, stupid?" |
| 21:55.28 | Lone_Wanderer | ahh |
| 21:55.29 | mgeary | not feminine |
| 21:55.39 | mgeary | der, die & das are the german articles |
| 21:55.50 | Lone_Wanderer | So a word that sounds like "durrh" is German for masculine? |
| 21:55.56 | optikal | Why don't you want to use a subselect in MySQL? |
| 21:55.59 | thebigdog | is english the only lang where we dont have mas/fem words |
| 21:56.16 | mgeary | not the only, but one of a minority, it seems |
| 21:56.22 | thebigdog | optikal, cause they are new features and still have some issues imho |
| 21:56.28 | optikal | oooh. |
| 21:56.41 | optikal | Alrights, I'll just do it in a php loop then. Good to know. |
| 21:56.43 | thebigdog | optikal others might disagree with me |
| 21:56.53 | mgeary | optikal: you don't need a loop, though |
| 21:56.55 | seant23 | no use a left join |
| 21:56.55 | thebigdog | optikal or rewrite the query to do a join |
| 21:57.13 | dataw0lf | SELECT productid, productcode, product, descr FROM xcart_products, xcart_product_categories WHERE xcart_products.productid=249 AND xcart_products_categories=249 |
| 21:57.16 | dataw0lf | right? |
| 21:57.16 | dataw0lf | I dunno |
| 21:58.12 | dataw0lf | you'd prolly want a xcart_product_categories.productid |
| 21:58.15 | dataw0lf | or whatever |
| 21:58.18 | thebigdog | optikal, can you pastebin the db schema on the 2 tables...can you jiong them together? |
| 21:58.30 | dataw0lf | prefix all of your foreign keys with fk_, son |
| 21:58.34 | thebigdog | ~technical jiong |
| 21:59.26 | dataw0lf | what the hell is that, some sort of chinese porn SQL statement? |
| 21:59.31 | thebigdog | unfortunately...yes |
| 21:59.39 | thebigdog | its the masculine version |
| 21:59.41 | dataw0lf | I'll jiong you |
| 21:59.53 | thebigdog | no jiongin here |
| 22:00.12 | dataw0lf | see, I could've said 'that's what your wife said!', but I'm not so mean. |
| 22:00.21 | dataw0lf | ok, I am, I just did it, but in a defensive manner. |
| 22:00.32 | dataw0lf | I'm a reactive arsehole, what can I say. |
| 22:00.36 | thebigdog | lol |
| 22:01.23 | dataw0lf | man this new guy must think we're nuts |
| 22:01.26 | dataw0lf | I apologize seant23 |
| 22:01.29 | dataw0lf | we're not usually like this |
| 22:01.45 | seant23 | lol, saner than me if thats a word |
| 22:02.24 | dataw0lf | are you a liberal or a conservative? we can break down whether you will like me or not just with that question. |
| 22:02.41 | seant23 | dunno, probally liberal |
| 22:02.41 | thebigdog | im a liberatarian |
| 22:02.50 | dataw0lf | alright, you'll love me. |
| 22:03.05 | dataw0lf | if you say 'probably liberal' that means you don't support the Iraqi War, and if so, you'll love me! |
| 22:03.38 | dataw0lf | thebigdog: I'm a federalist. |
| 22:03.41 | dataw0lf | very similar. |
| 22:03.48 | seant23 | ya i'll go with probally liberal then, its my final answer |
| 22:04.09 | dataw0lf | good job seant23! You've won 16,000..... credits of credibility with dataw0lf! |
| 22:04.43 | seant23 | lol thats like 10 cents right? |
| 22:04.50 | dataw0lf | hoho |
| 22:04.51 | thebigdog | im down with the whig party |
| 22:04.57 | dataw0lf | and seant23 is a smartarse |
| 22:05.01 | dataw0lf | yea, you'll fit in fine. |
| 22:05.36 | Lone_Wanderer | seant23: Don't listen to him, we're almost always like this. |
| 22:05.42 | dataw0lf | thebigdog: see, i believe, if Utah wants to ban gay marriage, abortion, etc, let em |
| 22:05.51 | dataw0lf | but other areas should be able to do as they see fit |
| 22:05.59 | dataw0lf | so you may move to Utah if you fall in line with their beliefs |
| 22:06.08 | dataw0lf | or, say, San Francisco if you're down with the others. |
| 22:06.22 | dataw0lf | I think autonomy from the federal government is very important |
| 22:07.03 | dataw0lf | although I still think the legal system and legal representation should, in most cases, be guarded by federal interests. |
| 22:07.23 | dataw0lf | and obviously I believe in properly managed social programs, like public health care and the like. |
| 22:07.32 | dataw0lf | and unprivatizing legal representation. |
| 22:07.49 | Lone_Wanderer | how would you unprivatize it? |
| 22:07.59 | Lone_Wanderer | that's quite possibly the best idea I've heard of in a long, long time. |
| 22:08.12 | dataw0lf | by criminal representation being representated by federal / state programs |
| 22:08.26 | dataw0lf | I mean, all these corporate CEOs, or rich guys like O.J. beat obvious raps |
| 22:08.31 | dataw0lf | because they can fork over cash |
| 22:08.34 | dataw0lf | man, screw that |
| 22:08.37 | Lone_Wanderer | Umm. |
| 22:08.47 | Lone_Wanderer | That's because the best lawyers can afford to charge millions. |
| 22:09.08 | Lone_Wanderer | If you weren't allowed to pay your lawyer millions any more, then nobody good would go into lawa. |
| 22:09.10 | Lone_Wanderer | law* |
| 22:09.11 | dataw0lf | yea, sorry for your luck, but the lawyer profession shouldn't be a corporate enterprise |
| 22:09.18 | Lone_Wanderer | I mean, I agree in general |
| 22:09.34 | Lone_Wanderer | it just seems like a strong swing in the opposite direction. I dunno. |
| 22:09.43 | dataw0lf | ok, so, do the best cops become higher in stature due to economic standing and corporate leverage? |
| 22:09.50 | Lone_Wanderer | No. |
| 22:10.06 | dataw0lf | Exactly, so why does one branch of the legal system get screwed, and the other is making millions? |
| 22:10.09 | Lone_Wanderer | They get pretty much nothing. Maybe a dinner, catered by the city, which means crappy food in the basement of some building |
| 22:10.19 | Lone_Wanderer | where the chief gives a little talk about how great they are |
| 22:10.25 | Lone_Wanderer | That's a good point. |
| 22:10.57 | dataw0lf | I mean, people want to make the court system, etc a racial issue. |
| 22:10.58 | dataw0lf | It isn't |
| 22:11.03 | dataw0lf | It's about rich people |
| 22:11.07 | dataw0lf | which, by and large, are white |
| 22:11.21 | dataw0lf | which distracts people from real issues, like, uh, the poor are getting screwed |
| 22:11.47 | dataw0lf | personally, I think people who represent are various legal branches should be paid the most. |
| 22:11.52 | dataw0lf | Obviously, where does the money come from. |
| 22:11.52 | Lone_Wanderer | our* |
| 22:12.11 | dataw0lf | Corporations. let's tax corporations to a huge amount. |
| 22:12.21 | dataw0lf | once they reach a certain profit margin. |
| 22:12.26 | Lone_Wanderer | So they'd have no incentive to go into business in the US? |
| 22:12.44 | dataw0lf | Why wouldn't they? The largest consumer base is America. |
| 22:12.55 | dataw0lf | Let's look at Microsoft |
| 22:12.57 | Lone_Wanderer | Or so they'd have huge incentives to cheat on their accounting or do other non-cheating things to keep their profits down? |
| 22:13.04 | Lone_Wanderer | You don't have to incorporate in the US to sell here. |
| 22:13.06 | dataw0lf | do you think they'd really 'hurt' if we taxed them a couple BILLION more? |
| 22:13.29 | dataw0lf | You're still thinking in an unregulated corporate sense, which is what the U.S. is all about. |
| 22:13.32 | dataw0lf | it worked for a while. |
| 22:13.46 | dataw0lf | but once FDR opened the floodgates, THAT is when corporations became corrupt |
| 22:14.13 | Lone_Wanderer | Ahh, FDR, the sneaky devil. |
| 22:14.17 | dataw0lf | the coupling of corporations to our political sphere is one of the largest tragedies in American history. |
| 22:14.18 | Lone_Wanderer | We should've known never to elect a cripple! |
| 22:14.24 | dataw0lf | Hey, dude, FDR rocked. |
| 22:14.49 | dataw0lf | but Truman, and followers, cemented his decisions, hard decisions, he made to elevate us out of the Depression. |
| 22:15.00 | dataw0lf | Unfortunately, after time passes, you'll see a larger depression. |
| 22:15.05 | dataw0lf | The separation of the rich, from the poor. |
| 22:15.11 | dataw0lf | That's why our middle class is disappearing. |
| 22:15.57 | dataw0lf | Personally, I think the best government we can conceive of right now is an amalgamation of corporate democracy, with social/communist democracy. |
| 22:16.07 | dataw0lf | and while people think that's what we have, to an extent. |
| 22:16.09 | dataw0lf | we don't. |
| 22:16.26 | dataw0lf | not with the changes that have been made to allow lobbyists and other corporate entities affect our political sphere. |
| 22:18.15 | dataw0lf | If we're to survive for the next couple centuries (barring future struggles with Islam, which, may destroy us), without resorting to complete corporate control (and eating Soylent Green), we're going to have to rethink our political structure. |
| 22:18.36 | dataw0lf | Especially in the Age of Communications, which, I believe, we're in right now. |
| 22:19.00 | dataw0lf | that's how you achieve a global, successful, unified, government. |
| 22:19.09 | dataw0lf | which we're headed towards, whether we like it or not. |
| 22:19.30 | dataw0lf | otherwise, the U.S. will go down in flames for overreaching without social programs to benefit those we're usurping. |
| 22:20.58 | dataw0lf | Like every other hegemonistic empire before it. |
| 22:20.58 | Lone_Wanderer | asdfsadf |
| 22:20.58 | Lone_Wanderer | (breaking up the flow :p) |
| 22:28.39 | thebigdog | ~break Lone_Wanderer |
| 22:30.44 | mindjuju | willing to put money on a CodeOff! |
| 22:30.45 | mindjuju | cool |
| 22:31.26 | thebigdog | ill even host it... |
| 22:31.42 | mindjuju | there is a new email that just came through with numbers and stats |
| 22:38.00 | Lone_Wanderer | I'll be the bookie |
| 22:38.14 | Lone_Wanderer | I'll give you good odds on Datawolf. |
| 22:38.56 | dataw0lf | son |
| 22:39.23 | _psychic_ | codeoff between python and php? |
| 22:39.31 | dataw0lf | heh, you want to? |
| 22:39.45 | mgeary | how would such a codeoff work? fewest lines of code? Fastest delivery?....? |
| 22:40.01 | _psychic_ | performance is what I'm most interested |
| 22:40.07 | dataw0lf | well, I would win hands down on fewest lines of code, I'm thinking performance |
| 22:40.24 | _psychic_ | I bet Django is similarly organized to CakePHP |
| 22:40.25 | dataw0lf | oh, I'd be able to use Django? |
| 22:40.39 | dataw0lf | I'll use CGI if you want. |
| 22:40.49 | _psychic_ | should both be on the same thing |
| 22:40.51 | dataw0lf | just straight up import cgi |
| 22:40.58 | _psychic_ | FCGI or whatever |
| 22:41.15 | dataw0lf | sure, we could do FCGI, but, Django works with all, if we want to allow frameworks |
| 22:41.36 | dataw0lf | I'd probably use Pylons just to speed up some template conversion |
| 22:41.41 | dataw0lf | but I'm 99% sure I'd win. |
| 22:41.48 | dataw0lf | either way. |
| 22:41.57 | dataw0lf | I don't really think performance is a good consideration though. |
| 22:42.04 | _psychic_ | If its close, it doesn't matter |
| 22:42.13 | dataw0lf | It's usually a better observation of the skill of the programmer in said language / framework |
| 22:43.24 | _psychic_ | so what is? |
| 22:44.46 | _psychic_ | dataw0lf: ^ |
| 22:44.49 | dataw0lf | gotcha |
| 22:44.53 | dataw0lf | I'm replying to your recent email |
| 22:44.54 | dataw0lf | dude |
| 22:44.59 | _psychic_ | slowpoke |
| 22:45.00 | dataw0lf | you use PHP for sysadmin tasks. |
| 22:46.00 | _psychic_ | ? |
| 22:47.25 | _psychic_ | thanks, but... why? |
| 22:47.33 | Lone_Wanderer | Read, and you shall see. |
| 22:47.45 | Lone_Wanderer | Or just skip to the last two lines. That's really the point. |
| 22:47.46 | thebigdog | im switching to lua |
| 22:48.58 | _psychic_ | Lone_Wanderer: What's the matter with PHP for sysadmin tasks? |
| 22:49.00 | Lone_Wanderer | _psychic_ posted to the list that he uses PHP for system administration and now he's getting flamed for it. (Sorry.) |
| 22:49.17 | dataw0lf | _psychic_: it's ludicrous. Unless you're using it for web centric sys admin tasks. |
| 22:49.20 | Lone_Wanderer | It's not what PHP was created for. I'm sure it works fine, but "If the only tool you have is a hammer" and all that. |
| 22:49.34 | _psychic_ | if it works fine... |
| 22:49.49 | mgeary | i don't see a problem with it. what, you want him to use perl? |
| 22:49.51 | _psychic_ | What am I missing in Perl that is so handy for sysadmin? |
| 22:49.52 | Lone_Wanderer | Because other things would work better. |
| 22:49.58 | mgeary | i use python and php for sysadmin tasks |
| 22:50.00 | _psychic_ | *what* other things |
| 22:50.02 | _psychic_ | details, people |
| 22:50.03 | Lone_Wanderer | Well, I don't know, 'cause I don't know Perl. |
| 22:50.07 | _psychic_ | ... |
| 22:50.23 | _psychic_ | Well my php-is-cool-for-sysadmin commen stands then. |
| 22:50.24 | Lone_Wanderer | But I'm not a sysadmin either. |
| 22:50.53 | _psychic_ | I don't really care for Perl |
| 22:50.56 | Lone_Wanderer | But all the (non-you) sysadmins I know, who also know perl, love it. |
| 22:51.18 | _psychic_ | If they all jumped of a cliff.... |
| 22:51.24 | _psychic_ | seriously though |
| 22:51.27 | _psychic_ | I don't know why they do |
| 22:51.38 | _psychic_ | PHP is like Perl 7.0 |
| 22:51.49 | Lone_Wanderer | I think it's because it's got really good string-processing capabilities |
| 22:52.03 | Lone_Wanderer | and system administration entails a lot of that |
| 22:52.10 | _psychic_ | like the pcre_.. PHP functions? |
| 22:52.18 | Lone_Wanderer | Only moreso. |
| 22:52.27 | dataw0lf | dude |
| 22:52.30 | _psychic_ | Except that CPAN get's mutated into this nasty ogre named PEAR. |
| 22:52.34 | dataw0lf | in Python, I have complete control over processes |
| 22:52.38 | _psychic_ | rawr |
| 22:52.39 | dataw0lf | and it's thread safe |
| 22:52.47 | _psychic_ | PHP5 is threadsafe, right? |
| 22:52.53 | _psychic_ | just not *all* the extensions? |
| 22:52.56 | dataw0lf | it doesn't HAVE threads |
| 22:53.46 | synic | whoa, I missed the perl conversation? |
| 22:53.48 | synic | I lose. |
| 22:53.57 | dataw0lf | synic: people using PHP for sys admin tasks. |
| 22:54.01 | synic | AAAH! |
| 22:54.12 | synic | danger, will robinson |
| 22:54.46 | _psychic_ | I gotta run, but want details on this later on |
| 22:55.23 | dataw0lf | dang it |
| 22:55.32 | dataw0lf | I was typing out a piece of code to do in PHP |
| 22:55.39 | dataw0lf | ok, gimme one sec, |
| 22:55.42 | dataw0lf | import os |
| 22:55.53 | dataw0lf | files = os.listdir(somedir) |
| 22:55.59 | dataw0lf | for f in files: |
| 22:56.06 | dataw0lf | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:56.19 | dataw0lf | this capitalizes every file in the directory provided |
| 22:56.26 | dataw0lf | and prints them |
| 22:56.31 | dataw0lf | do that in PHP |
| 22:56.37 | synic | I always liked this: |
| 22:56.45 | synic | for line in open('/etc/fstab'): |
| 22:56.48 | synic | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:57.09 | synic | or.. like this: |
| 22:57.16 | synic | for line in open('/etc/fstab'): |
| 22:57.24 | synic | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:57.47 | synic | even better. |
| 22:57.51 | synic | import urllib |
| 22:57.52 | _psychic_ | dataw0lf: $d = dir('/somedir'); |
| 22:57.53 | _psychic_ | while(false !== ($entry = $d->read())) |
| 22:57.53 | _psychic_ | echo ucfirst($entry); |
| 22:58.00 | synic | for line in urllib.urlopen('http://www.yahoo.com'): |
| 22:58.02 | synic | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:58.16 | _psychic_ | dataw0lf: is that the same? |
| 22:58.40 | synic | _psychic_: yeah, it's just a lot uglier :) |
| 22:58.57 | dataw0lf | _psychic_: ugly version |
| 22:58.58 | dataw0lf | how about |
| 22:59.01 | _psychic_ | you didn't say do it pretty :) |
| 22:59.04 | _psychic_ | you said do it. |
| 22:59.04 | synic | er... I forgot the .read() |
| 22:59.07 | dataw0lf | for line in open('/etc/fstab'): |
| 22:59.08 | _psychic_ | which I did, btw. |
| 22:59.20 | dataw0lf | oh wait, one sec, i was going to do a list com |
| 22:59.23 | dataw0lf | comp* |
| 22:59.34 | dataw0lf | l = open('/etc/fstab') |
| 23:00.15 | dataw0lf | [x for x in l if l.startswith('BLAH')] |
| 23:00.22 | dataw0lf | synic: gotcha with the list comp, dude |
| 23:00.29 | synic | dataw0lf: yes, yes you did |
| 23:00.32 | synic | ok, I'm out |
| 23:00.34 | synic | bbiab |
| 23:00.52 | dataw0lf | _psychic_: check this out |
| 23:00.58 | mgeary | python list comprehension rocks |
| 23:01.01 | dataw0lf | l = [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6] |
| 23:01.23 | dataw0lf | [x for l in l if l % 2] |
| 23:03.34 | _psychic_ | foreach($x in array(1,2,3,4,5,6)) {if($x%2){//stuff}} |
| 23:03.37 | _psychic_ | gotta run |
| 23:03.39 | _psychic_ | lates |
| 23:04.19 | dataw0lf | dang it, I was gonna do a partial()! |
| 23:04.41 | _psychic_ | sucka |
| 23:04.42 | _psychic_ | cya |
| 23:04.49 | dataw0lf | cya bro |
| 23:04.53 | _psychic_ | gnite |
| 23:08.27 | dataw0lf | y'know what I love most about GMail |
| 23:08.33 | dataw0lf | how when you're chatting via it |
| 23:08.42 | dataw0lf | it slowly transforms your :-) to a right side up smiley face |
| 23:09.02 | mindjuju | GAIM does that |
| 23:09.06 | mindjuju | that's the way I see it |
| 23:09.19 | dataw0lf | no, gaim doesn't do it this cool way |
| 23:09.34 | dataw0lf | it slowly rights the :-) in GMail until it's in the right side up position |
| 23:09.35 | mindjuju | can you send me a pic of it |
| 23:09.48 | mindjuju | oh, like it rotates it before your eyes? |
| 23:09.52 | dataw0lf | right |
| 23:10.05 | mindjuju | well, is yours a bright yellow smiley with a red mouth? |
| 23:10.12 | dataw0lf | no.... |
| 23:10.16 | mindjuju | well, there you go |
| 23:10.21 | dataw0lf | I hate those image replacements |
| 23:10.31 | mindjuju | jealous takes many forms |
| 23:10.39 | mindjuju | denial is the first stage though |
| 23:10.49 | dataw0lf | I'm always like, "How the hell do I make a smiley face with devil horns, sunglasses, and shooting a gun at me! I WANT TO KNOW!" |
| 23:11.20 | dataw0lf | not that many people are sending me a smiley face with devil horns, sunglasses, and shooting a gun towards me.... |
| 23:11.23 | dataw0lf | :\ |
| 23:11.58 | mindjuju | =8| |- U |
| 23:12.15 | mindjuju | the =8| is the devil |
| 23:12.27 | mindjuju | |- is the gun |
| 23:12.30 | mindjuju | U is you |
| 23:14.00 | dataw0lf | I see. |
| 23:14.28 | thebigdog | ~stupid |
| 23:14.29 | jbot | rumour has it, stupid is http://fun.drno.de/pics/english/bart.gif, or ibot |
| 23:14.51 | mindjuju | ~lart thebigdog |
| 23:14.51 | jbot | executes killall -KILL thebigdog |
| 23:15.05 | thebigdog | ~lart mindjuju |
| 23:15.05 | jbot | takes out a seltzer bottle and sprays mindjuju in the face. You know, one of those old-school seltzer bottles clowns have? Yeah those. Anyway, consider yourself spritzed |
| 23:15.12 | mindjuju | hey, thebigdog, how far south will you go for geek lunch? |
| 23:15.26 | mindjuju | well, SLC downtown even though parking bad? |
| 23:15.37 | thebigdog | yeah i can do slc |
| 23:15.46 | thebigdog | downtown is ok if htey have good parking |
| 23:15.48 | mindjuju | seems like you said that you wouldn't mind going further if parking better, but wanted to see how far was limit |
| 23:16.06 | thebigdog | i would like to stay north of murry |
| 23:16.24 | mindjuju | fair enough. let me pull out a map and see where the heck murray is |
| 23:16.30 | thebigdog | k |
| 23:16.45 | thebigdog | slc is good |
| 23:16.57 | mindjuju | k, murray = 4800jS |
| 23:17.04 | mindjuju | oops, 4800S |
| 23:17.50 | thebigdog | y |
| 23:18.02 | thebigdog | if i can stay close to i15 that is great for me |
| 23:18.18 | thebigdog | like right off and exit or someting |
| 23:18.47 | mindjuju | there is a place called "A Star of India" that is right off 2100S |
| 23:19.05 | mindjuju | 55E, so looks like maybe 2 major streets from highway |
| 23:19.06 | thebigdog | how is the parking? |
| 23:19.11 | mindjuju | never been there |
| 23:19.15 | mindjuju | macnewbold |
| 23:19.55 | mindjuju | ooooooo |
| 23:20.02 | mindjuju | i think parking is going to be good |
| 23:20.12 | mindjuju | http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=bountiful,+ut+indian+food&layer=&ie=UTF8&z=18&ll=40.727064,-111.889154&spn=0.003545,0.006663&t=k&om=1&iwloc=F |
| 23:20.52 | mindjuju | looks like the resturant is the white box and there looks to be a ton of parking |
| 23:22.07 | mindjuju | looks like you have a perfect exit and entrance to the freeway from that street, 2100s headed north |
| 23:23.43 | mindjuju | i wonder if macnewbold has eaten there before |
| 23:23.47 | mindjuju | brb |
| 23:26.18 | Lone_Wanderer | dataw0lf: I love that about gmail too. |
| 23:26.37 | Lone_Wanderer | It's also good for net newbies who don't know that :) is a smiley face, 'cause they can watch it go. |
| 23:26.53 | Lone_Wanderer | Also - I need some tunes. |
| 23:30.44 | *** mode/#UPHPU [+v mindjuju] by thebigdog |
| 23:30.49 | *** mode/#UPHPU [-o mindjuju] by thebigdog |
| 23:34.28 | *** mode/#UPHPU [+o mindjuju] by thebigdog |
| 23:37.12 | Lone_Wanderer | How do you get the weather? |
| 23:37.16 | Lone_Wanderer | ~ksl or something? |
| 23:38.03 | Lone_Wanderer | Oh wait, I'm on a mac. Dashboard ho! |
| 23:38.09 | thebigdog | roflol |
| 23:41.38 | *** part/#uphpu mgeary (n=mgeary@166.70.44.49) |
| 23:56.52 | mindjuju | well, i think i'll have to take my wife there to A Star of India and check out the eats and the parking and report back |
| 23:57.59 | *** join/#uphpu burnin (n=burnin@hongkong.machinage.com) |
| 23:58.09 | Lone_Wanderer | good plan |
| 23:58.24 | thebigdog | sounds good |
