| 00:00.31 | mindjuju | just click on this and turn up the speakers good and loud |
| 00:00.33 | mindjuju | http://www.di.fm/mp3/breaks.pls |
| 00:01.13 | Lone_Wanderer | ohhh, it's like a rave in my ears! |
| 00:01.40 | Lone_Wanderer | <3 mindjuju's office |
| 00:01.48 | mindjuju | what i need though is a decent sub |
| 00:02.23 | Lone_Wanderer | What I need is my own apartment in Salt Lake where I can pipe this kind of feed in 24 hours a day. |
| 00:02.28 | Lone_Wanderer | Then I can dream of electric beats. |
| 00:02.34 | mindjuju | exactly |
| 00:02.41 | Lone_Wanderer | (name that reference) |
| 00:03.15 | mindjuju | name? |
| 00:03.24 | Lone_Wanderer | "dream of electric beats" :p |
| 00:03.45 | mindjuju | hmm... without cheating and googling it up, i don't know |
| 00:03.52 | mindjuju | but on iRobot, he has dreams |
| 00:04.01 | mindjuju | but don't remember that quote exactly |
| 00:04.04 | Lone_Wanderer | Does he dream of electric sheep? |
| 00:04.15 | Lone_Wanderer | Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep - novel that Blade Runner was based on. |
| 00:04.16 | mindjuju | oh yeah, that was the name of the asimov book |
| 00:04.22 | mindjuju | oh, duh |
| 00:04.24 | Lone_Wanderer | Phillip K. Dick actually |
| 00:04.25 | mindjuju | yeah, not asimov |
| 00:04.35 | mindjuju | sorry, i spaced that one! |
| 00:04.37 | Lone_Wanderer | :) |
| 00:04.41 | Lone_Wanderer | I've been reading him a lot lately. |
| 00:04.50 | mindjuju | blade runner OST is awesome! |
| 00:04.54 | Lone_Wanderer | OST? |
| 00:04.54 | mindjuju | have you heard it? |
| 00:04.56 | Lone_Wanderer | no |
| 00:05.02 | mindjuju | Original Soundtrack |
| 00:05.05 | Lone_Wanderer | ahhhh |
| 00:05.32 | mindjuju | it's way old electronica |
| 00:05.35 | Lone_Wanderer | cool |
| 00:06.17 | Lone_Wanderer | I just had a crazy idea. |
| 00:06.27 | mindjuju | yeah? |
| 00:06.31 | Lone_Wanderer | Pay someone to say that listening to techno increases your base metabolic rate |
| 00:06.42 | Lone_Wanderer | then sell techno CD's as weight loss music XD |
| 00:06.50 | mindjuju | heh |
| 00:06.58 | mindjuju | it's funny you say that |
| 00:07.30 | mindjuju | i use techno cadence to focus when i'm coding |
| 00:07.54 | Lone_Wanderer | Same here. Or rather, I can. I don't always. |
| 00:08.15 | mindjuju | geniuses think alike! |
| 00:08.41 | mindjuju | better than that RATM stuff fo sho! dataw0lf! |
| 00:10.56 | Lone_Wanderer | What's RATM? |
| 00:11.39 | mindjuju | Rage Against The Machine , i'm just teasing dataw0lf |
| 00:11.52 | Lone_Wanderer | ahh, okay |
| 00:14.20 | Lone_Wanderer | you know what'd be cool software for an ipod (or ipod like device) |
| 00:14.36 | Lone_Wanderer | is something that dynamically generates techno (in any genre you like) based on your playlist |
| 00:14.46 | mindjuju | that would be cool |
| 00:15.12 | mindjuju | like it just randomly samples songs and puts them together? |
| 00:15.48 | Lone_Wanderer | yeah |
| 00:16.01 | Lone_Wanderer | it'd take a selection of tracks based on some criteria you provide |
| 00:16.34 | mindjuju | it'd have to be in specially designated folders otherwise you'd get Yo Yo Ma mixed in with Bon Jovi - Wanted Dead or Alive |
| 00:16.36 | Lone_Wanderer | and then scan them, take little clips from several of them, and remix them into techno. lay down a beat, layer clips, etc. |
| 00:16.40 | Lone_Wanderer | lol yeah |
| 00:17.04 | Lone_Wanderer | Although that could be cool if done right. I wish I knew how to remix things on my computarmachine. |
| 00:17.41 | mindjuju | funny you say that, DJ Tiesto did an awesome job mixing Adaigo for strings |
| 00:17.58 | Lone_Wanderer | O_O |
| 00:18.06 | Lone_Wanderer | Please... please don't be talking about the remix I'm thinking of. |
| 00:18.20 | Lone_Wanderer | Do you have a copy? |
| 00:18.38 | mindjuju | yeah, vid for sure here, possibly an mp3 |
| 00:18.52 | mindjuju | you on broadband? |
| 00:19.05 | Lone_Wanderer | I just need the mp3 so I can listen to it and find out whether it's the atrocious farce I encountered before. |
| 00:19.06 | Lone_Wanderer | yeah |
| 00:20.55 | mindjuju | uno momento por favor |
| 00:21.34 | Lone_Wanderer | heh, this fight scene is laughable |
| 00:21.43 | mindjuju | fight scene? |
| 00:21.51 | Lone_Wanderer | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K06wDn3XsZE |
| 00:27.51 | mindjuju | Lone_Wanderer , PM sent |
| 00:27.59 | mindjuju | saw the video, that was long |
| 00:28.08 | Lone_Wanderer | thanks |
| 00:28.37 | Lone_Wanderer | Yeah, it was long and uncut, which is the main cool factor it's got. |
| 00:28.49 | Lone_Wanderer | But the quality of fighting is kind of shoddy. |
| 00:29.22 | Lone_Wanderer | speaking of which, it's about time to look up a local wing chun school |
| 00:30.05 | mindjuju | WTH! |
| 00:30.11 | Lone_Wanderer | No, this is not the same remix of Barber's Adagio I heard before. This one actually sounds pretty good. |
| 00:30.15 | Lone_Wanderer | wth what? |
| 00:30.18 | mindjuju | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBsyBjQuX6E&NR |
| 00:31.45 | Lone_Wanderer | Dude's good. |
| 00:33.38 | Lone_Wanderer | heh, this guy's kind of cool |
| 00:33.40 | Lone_Wanderer | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuzXUv48geU&NR |
| 00:35.41 | Lone_Wanderer | Well, time to go. Au revoir. |
| 00:35.47 | mindjuju | cya |
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| 01:53.53 | mindjuju | ugh, 8 o'clock already |
| 01:54.51 | dataw0lf | that's called beer thirty, in my book. |
| 01:55.14 | mindjuju | how many beers are you into this evening? |
| 01:55.22 | dataw0lf | mmmm |
| 01:55.28 | dataw0lf | 5? |
| 01:55.33 | mindjuju | wow |
| 01:55.51 | dataw0lf | ha, I'm going to Incline Village to meet some girls in a couple hours. |
| 01:55.56 | dataw0lf | I'm not even at the wow point yet. |
| 01:56.09 | dataw0lf | as in, 'WOW! How can you even stand at this point?' |
| 01:56.42 | dataw0lf | ??? |
| 01:56.43 | dataw0lf | what? |
| 01:56.53 | dataw0lf | dude, I drink GOOD beer, danke very much. |
| 01:57.12 | dataw0lf | like Icky, or Sierra Nevada Pale Ale. |
| 01:57.22 | mindjuju | i've just heard of it, it supposedly famous in the south |
| 01:57.26 | dataw0lf | Beer that makes your body go 'mmmmmm' when it enters the digestive track. |
| 01:57.52 | mindjuju | what about samuel adams, is that as good as the commercials say? |
| 01:58.00 | dataw0lf | sam adams ain't too bad. |
| 01:58.06 | dataw0lf | kind of an acquired taste. |
| 01:58.12 | dataw0lf | but I'll drink it. |
| 01:58.21 | mindjuju | what about heiniken ? |
| 01:58.27 | dataw0lf | eh, heineken is ok. |
| 01:59.01 | dataw0lf | a little too sweet for me nowadays, though. |
| 01:59.43 | mindjuju | the other day i was looking up liquid paper on wikipedia, come to find out that in Sweeden, a "white Christmas" has vodka and liquid paper |
| 02:00.24 | mindjuju | pretty wierd what they'll put into drinks |
| 02:00.28 | dataw0lf | that sounds... pretty gross. |
| 02:00.50 | mindjuju | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tipp-Ex |
| 02:00.56 | mindjuju | at the bottom under misuse |
| 02:02.22 | dataw0lf | never even heard of it. |
| 02:02.25 | dataw0lf | crazy swedes. |
| 02:02.41 | mindjuju | oh, i hear the nation's obsession with ethanol is starting to affect beer prices because more people are planting corn, leaving less room for hops |
| 02:03.28 | dataw0lf | most good beer doesn't come from America, so I'm not really worried. |
| 02:03.52 | mindjuju | have you ever been to a German Oktoberfest? |
| 02:04.33 | dataw0lf | yes |
| 02:04.51 | dataw0lf | a little too crowded for my taste. |
| 02:05.05 | mindjuju | yeah, i've heard they are pretty crazy |
| 02:05.43 | dataw0lf | yea. it's pretty nuts. |
| 02:08.13 | mindjuju | we'll , i was pretty close on 2 occassions to being in Europe, but alas... |
| 02:09.25 | mindjuju | one year, i had a $400 tax return and the weekend i got it, i got a "last minute deal" from some airline, can't remember which, but it was round trip to Hamberg for $380 w/tax and everything |
| 02:09.36 | dataw0lf | should've taken it. |
| 02:09.45 | mindjuju | was trying to con a college buddy of mine that we should go and just slept on park benches |
| 02:10.05 | mindjuju | but alas, he wimped out and i've regreted it ever since |
| 02:10.31 | mindjuju | course though, his thought was that neither he nor i speak german so... |
| 02:10.46 | mindjuju | i figured, buy a rough guide book on Germany and we would have been set |
| 02:12.30 | dataw0lf | psh, you don't need to know German |
| 02:12.37 | dataw0lf | just how to speak slowly to the womenz |
| 02:12.42 | mindjuju | heh |
| 02:13.27 | dataw0lf | "I.... need... a... place... to... stay. howboutyourhouse? |
| 02:13.28 | dataw0lf | " |
| 02:13.45 | mindjuju | does it work? |
| 02:13.53 | dataw0lf | of course. you're american. |
| 02:14.15 | mindjuju | do they treat you like some kind of demi-god there? |
| 02:14.20 | dataw0lf | yes. |
| 02:14.25 | mindjuju | it's the same in China |
| 02:14.33 | mindjuju | everybody wants to run up and take pictures |
| 02:14.39 | mindjuju | practice their english |
| 02:14.48 | mindjuju | well, especially if your blond with blue eyes |
| 02:14.49 | dataw0lf | yea, same in germany. |
| 02:14.58 | dataw0lf | germany it's more about the black guys. |
| 02:15.07 | mindjuju | then always with wierd questions... |
| 02:15.15 | mindjuju | have i seen michael jackson |
| 02:15.22 | mindjuju | do i know the backstreet boys |
| 02:15.32 | mindjuju | what do i think of brittney spears |
| 02:15.43 | dataw0lf | germans usually get straight to the point. |
| 02:16.50 | mindjuju | i think the funniest thing i heard in China, was that nearly all chinese think that ALL americans run around with guns |
| 02:17.01 | mindjuju | and when I told them I personally didn't own a gun, they were shocked and thought i was lying |
| 02:17.21 | mindjuju | course though, i was equally surprised when they told me not everybody knows Gung Fu there |
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| 14:37.17 | Utah_Dave | morning, everyone |
| 14:38.02 | timinator | morning Dave |
| 14:39.38 | timinator | morning all |
| 14:42.34 | dataw0lf | mornin |
| 15:04.31 | macnewbold | ~zippy |
| 15:06.05 | jsmith | And PRE-sumptuous as well |
| 15:06.56 | timinator | ~timattack testing123 |
| 15:07.08 | timinator | dangit |
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| 15:12.07 | timinator | ~lart |
| 15:12.54 | beandog | holar |
| 15:13.04 | timinator | ~lart wps |
| 15:13.37 | dataw0lf | never seen that one before |
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| 15:22.44 | beandog | hamstercrap |
| 15:22.45 | beandog | that's great |
| 15:22.47 | beandog | :) |
| 15:22.51 | beandog | I gotta remember that one |
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| 15:40.08 | PoeticIntensity | beandog is back! |
| 15:46.31 | beandog | grammatification at its best |
| 15:50.55 | macnewbold | PoeticIntensity: nice blog on the salt flats trip(s) |
| 15:51.49 | Lone_Wanderer | where's PI's blog? |
| 15:52.57 | dataw0lf | poeticintensity.com |
| 15:53.51 | macnewbold | in other words, he's blogging about how my suv was extremely close to keeping pace with his 2007 mustang up to about 100-110mph |
| 15:54.23 | macnewbold | we stayed within about 2-5 feet of dead even until I neared the 115mph cap they built into my car |
| 15:55.25 | macnewbold | PoeticIntensity can correct me if that's an exaggeration |
| 15:55.29 | Lone_Wanderer | cool |
| 15:58.45 | Lone_Wanderer | The pictures there are fantastic. |
| 15:58.45 | Lone_Wanderer | ~lart windows for breaking on Friday night |
| 15:59.41 | PoeticIntensity | heh... thanks. |
| 15:59.46 | PoeticIntensity | those aren't even the good ones.... |
| 15:59.51 | PoeticIntensity | and yes.... macnewbold.... |
| 15:59.56 | PoeticIntensity | your car is fast. |
| 15:59.57 | PoeticIntensity | heh. |
| 16:00.04 | macnewbold | it surprised both of us I think |
| 16:00.07 | PoeticIntensity | actually, it was quite amazing how quick that thing was. |
| 16:00.32 | macnewbold | it's the electric motors - just a v6 in a car that size wouldn't be able to do that |
| 16:00.47 | PoeticIntensity | 2-5 feet, Mac? I dare say that's a slight exaggeration... ;-) |
| 16:00.56 | macnewbold | oh, okay |
| 16:01.17 | macnewbold | I wasn't looking at the speedometer when you pulled away |
| 16:01.43 | macnewbold | but I wasn't behind you |
| 16:02.02 | macnewbold | I thought my front bumper stayed up near your passenger side door or something |
| 16:02.21 | macnewbold | that might have only been the first run though, the second one I got a bad start |
| 16:02.40 | PoeticIntensity | ya know.... |
| 16:02.44 | PoeticIntensity | you might be right. |
| 16:02.55 | macnewbold | racing in an automatic isn't all that fun though... all I could do was floor it at the right moment, and hold it there... |
| 16:03.09 | macnewbold | we'll have to try it again next time |
| 16:03.38 | PoeticIntensity | yeah... man... I'll have to say that, for me, there will never be another automatic transmission used as my daily driver. |
| 16:03.52 | PoeticIntensity | I get so much more satisfaction, even in traffic, driving a manual. |
| 16:04.15 | PoeticIntensity | and yeah... down at the Flats, it's gotta be manual... |
| 16:04.23 | macnewbold | and not 4wd |
| 16:04.28 | PoeticIntensity | oh no.... |
| 16:04.31 | PoeticIntensity | 4wd is *great* |
| 16:04.34 | PoeticIntensity | for starting quickly. |
| 16:04.38 | Lone_Wanderer | great for racing? |
| 16:04.42 | PoeticIntensity | heck yes... |
| 16:04.42 | Lone_Wanderer | I guess you'd get more traction |
| 16:04.49 | PoeticIntensity | definitely. |
| 16:05.01 | PoeticIntensity | ever heard of the Subaru WRX-STI? |
| 16:05.15 | Lone_Wanderer | So you can fishtail and spin around in your mustang at ~50mph with no danger of rolling it? |
| 16:05.32 | PoeticIntensity | I felt no danger whatsoever. |
| 16:06.09 | PoeticIntensity | it started getting crazy when I'd purposefully get it out of control and try to regain it while going 100+MPH. |
| 16:06.25 | Lone_Wanderer | cool |
| 16:06.32 | PoeticIntensity | heh.. totally. |
| 16:06.39 | Lone_Wanderer | I've heard of the WRX, but I don't know much about them. |
| 16:06.50 | PoeticIntensity | the STI is a all-wheel-drive. |
| 16:07.01 | PoeticIntensity | 100% sport-street-type-racer. |
| 16:07.09 | Lone_Wanderer | cool |
| 16:08.32 | macnewbold | the catch with the 4wd is that you can't easily get it to slide |
| 16:09.39 | macnewbold | so you miss out on some of the fun |
| 16:12.36 | PoeticIntensity | yeah... that's true. |
| 16:13.19 | Lone_Wanderer | PI, can I link to that picture of your mustang on the flats in my blog? |
| 16:13.22 | Lone_Wanderer | It gets very little traffic. |
| 16:13.36 | PoeticIntensity | sure. |
| 16:13.53 | Lone_Wanderer | thanks |
| 16:13.57 | PoeticIntensity | the two pics at the end are huge... |
| 16:14.03 | PoeticIntensity | the one up top is properly resized. |
| 16:14.28 | Lone_Wanderer | Actually, I think I'll probably just link to your blog. |
| 16:14.35 | PoeticIntensity | sounds good. |
| 16:16.05 | PoeticIntensity | ya gotta come next time, LW. |
| 16:17.16 | Lone_Wanderer | I know. Next time I won't try to fix anyone's computer the night before. |
| 16:17.39 | PoeticIntensity | We all know what kinda of ruckus that creates.... |
| 16:17.44 | PoeticIntensity | I am exactly the same way. |
| 16:17.51 | PoeticIntensity | "Honey, I'll be right up, just fixing this last bug..." |
| 16:17.59 | PoeticIntensity | (next morning) |
| 16:18.09 | Lone_Wanderer | :) |
| 16:18.17 | PoeticIntensity | "Jason, you never came to bed!"....... while I'm still on that computer fixing that "last bug". |
| 16:18.28 | PoeticIntensity | I totally hear ya. |
| 16:19.52 | dataw0lf | that's what a laptop is for |
| 16:19.56 | dataw0lf | so you can be in bed and code |
| 16:22.41 | Lone_Wanderer | How to Destroy the Earth: http://qntm.org/destroy |
| 16:33.14 | Lone_Wanderer | happy birthday beandog! |
| 16:33.20 | beandog | thanks :) |
| 16:33.21 | Lone_Wanderer | How old are you now? |
| 16:33.27 | beandog | 31 :( |
| 16:33.36 | beandog | time to retire |
| 16:33.37 | Lone_Wanderer | nine more years! |
| 16:33.40 | Lone_Wanderer | Definitely. |
| 16:35.40 | beandog | ooh that reminds me, Eragon came out today |
| 16:35.47 | beandog | on DVD |
| 16:39.10 | PoeticIntensity | that was a pretty darned good movie. |
| 16:39.57 | Lone_Wanderer | Magic comes from dragons! |
| 16:40.10 | Lone_Wanderer | I didn't think it even came close to the book. |
| 16:40.44 | PoeticIntensity | I never read the book and don't care at all about it. |
| 16:40.53 | PoeticIntensity | The movie in and of itself was a pretty good movie. |
| 16:40.58 | PoeticIntensity | Books and movies are *very* different. |
| 16:41.05 | PoeticIntensity | why do people insist on comparing them? |
| 16:41.30 | PoeticIntensity | The mediums (media, if ya wanna get technical) are SO different.... |
| 16:41.42 | Lone_Wanderer | I still didn't like the movie :p |
| 16:42.00 | PoeticIntensity | if every movie made from a book had the purpose of "being like the book", most likely they'd be 100 times as long, and 400 times as boring. |
| 16:42.25 | Lone_Wanderer | I didn't say it wasn't like the book, I said it wasn't as good. |
| 16:42.37 | PoeticIntensity | gotcha... it's all good... just a pet-peeve of mine. |
| 16:47.45 | Lone_Wanderer | I do see your point. It's hard to translate a good book into a good movie, because they're such different methods of storytelling. |
| 16:49.48 | macnewbold | anyone in here ever read php|architect magazine? |
| 16:50.33 | dataw0lf | ew, Eragon. |
| 16:54.28 | Lone_Wanderer | I've heard of it mac. I've always thought that I "should" subscribe, but I never bothered. |
| 16:54.51 | Lone_Wanderer | Did they write an article about how super-awesome uphpu is? |
| 16:54.59 | macnewbold | not yet |
| 16:55.11 | Lone_Wanderer | They will. Some day. |
| 16:55.19 | macnewbold | they're the organizers of the php|tek conference in chicago in may, |
| 16:55.21 | Lone_Wanderer | After we have conquered all other user's groups. |
| 16:55.40 | macnewbold | and since I'm presenting there, they asked if I might be interested in writing an article for the magazine |
| 16:55.44 | Lone_Wanderer | And subjected them to our... something something. |
| 16:55.47 | Lone_Wanderer | cool |
| 16:57.06 | macnewbold | I'm still wondering though what their circulation is or how many people subscribe or care about what's in their mag. |
| 16:57.54 | breece | We have a couple of subscribers in our office of 7 engineers... |
| 16:58.04 | Lone_Wanderer | Good question. You should ask them. I'm sure they have the numbers for advertising purposes. |
| 16:59.24 | Lone_Wanderer | Speaking of which... |
| 16:59.26 | Lone_Wanderer | no, I forgot. Dangit. |
| 17:06.58 | dataw0lf | happy birfday beandog |
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| 17:15.01 | thebigdog | anyone know of a good free windows gui ogg encoder? |
| 17:16.30 | Lone_Wanderer | www.google.com?q=good+free+windows+gui+ogg+encoder |
| 17:16.32 | Lone_Wanderer | ;) |
| 17:16.45 | dataw0lf | oooh buurn |
| 17:17.13 | thebigdog | lol requested url not found....burn!!!! |
| 17:17.22 | Lone_Wanderer | lol |
| 17:17.22 | thebigdog | Lone_Wanderer ty for your great concern |
| 17:17.24 | Lone_Wanderer | google.com/search? |
| 17:17.39 | thebigdog | however, is there one that you use? |
| 17:17.52 | Lone_Wanderer | The other day I heard that the Google home page was simple because the founders didn't know HTML. |
| 17:17.57 | Lone_Wanderer | I don't use one, no. |
| 17:21.01 | beandog | dataw0lf: thanks man |
| 17:21.17 | dataw0lf | np |
| 17:21.42 | beandog | thebigdog: winlame |
| 17:22.23 | thebigdog | k |
| 17:22.24 | beandog | http://winlame.sourceforge.net/ |
| 17:24.19 | thebigdog | ty |
| 17:24.49 | thebigdog | wow that is fast |
| 17:28.41 | beandog | its a great little proggie |
| 17:45.04 | Lone_Wanderer | arrgh |
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| 17:45.27 | Lone_Wanderer | I don't like the idea of extending an HTML element across include files |
| 17:45.32 | Lone_Wanderer | but I think I'm going to have to. |
| 17:50.05 | brasto | http://pre.retvtours.com |
| 17:50.11 | brasto | i'm working on this site |
| 17:50.36 | brasto | I am trying to position the "OnDemand Real Estate Tours" text right below the image |
| 17:51.17 | brasto | View source to see that I have the image and logo in a div |
| 17:51.43 | brasto | class="logodiv" |
| 17:51.52 | macnewbold | Lone_Wanderer: it's probably okay to open something in a header file/template that gets closed in a corresponding footer doc |
| 17:52.52 | brasto | the slogan uses the creative class name "siteSlogan" |
| 17:53.17 | Lone_Wanderer | non-creative names are best, methinks |
| 17:54.48 | brasto | lol |
| 17:54.54 | brasto | agreed |
| 17:55.00 | brasto | descriptive names are best |
| 17:55.24 | brasto | the css file: /themes/retv/style.css |
| 17:56.26 | brasto | .logodive, .logodive img, and .siteSlogan are all a the top of the css file |
| 17:56.36 | Lone_Wanderer | dive? |
| 17:57.04 | brasto | doh! - i meant div |
| 17:57.26 | Lone_Wanderer | ahh ok |
| 17:57.30 | brasto | i don't plan to make the logo do any diving... |
| 17:57.43 | brasto | :0 |
| 17:57.47 | brasto | :) |
| 17:57.52 | brasto | wrong key there... |
| 17:58.37 | brasto | in .siteSlogan, even if I put margin-top : -500px; it does not move - it won't go up... |
| 17:58.56 | brasto | i really only want to move it up 5px or so... |
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| 18:04.00 | thebigdog | i invited him back |
| 18:04.03 | thebigdog | ~welcome jbot |
| 18:04.05 | jbot | Good to see you, jbot! |
| 18:04.51 | brasto | lol |
| 18:05.08 | brasto | jbot, who is jbot? |
| 18:05.12 | jbot | I think you lost me on that one, brasto |
| 18:05.33 | thebigdog | is it lunch time yet? |
| 18:05.35 | brasto | jbot what is jbot |
| 18:05.37 | jbot | brasto: what are you talking about? |
| 18:06.22 | brasto | jbot, jbot is one cool bot that knows anything you tell it to know |
| 18:06.23 | jbot | ...but jbot is already something else... |
| 18:06.42 | brasto | huh? |
| 18:06.48 | brasto | jbot, who is jbot |
| 18:06.50 | jbot | brasto: what are you talking about? |
| 18:06.57 | mindjuju | ~jbot |
| 18:06.58 | jbot | hmm... jbot is only marginally useful at best, He got a C- on his Turing Test, or dating the fembots, or a potty mouth, or some dimwit who learns crud. |
| 18:07.01 | brasto | jbot, what is jbot |
| 18:07.03 | jbot | brasto: what are you talking about? |
| 18:07.59 | brasto | ok, so ~ works but not the question... |
| 18:08.37 | thebigdog | who here works for media rain? |
| 18:08.40 | brasto | any ideas on my non-working css? |
| 18:08.46 | brasto | wps? |
| 18:08.50 | wps | y |
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| 18:17.46 | brasto | didn't mean to leave the chat room... |
| 18:18.39 | brasto | odd, when i try to put the slogan in <span> instead of <p> and put a <br /> in front of it, it does not break to the next line... |
| 18:19.16 | thebigdog | cause it spans |
| 18:23.18 | brasto | ah, it does break, but not below the img... |
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| 18:25.53 | brasto | ok, so a span, which has no margins, still has a margin under the logo when I give it display : block... |
| 18:26.14 | brasto | and, i gave the logo margin-bottom : 0; |
| 18:29.34 | mindjuju | ~unlobotomy |
| 18:30.26 | mindjuju | ~unlobotomy |
| 18:30.32 | mindjuju | ~melvin thebigdog |
| 18:30.35 | jbot | ACTION pulls thebigdog underwear up to the ceiling...and smiles |
| 18:30.46 | thebigdog | lol...jbot your back |
| 18:30.58 | mindjuju | ~tunafart thebigdog |
| 18:31.00 | jbot | ACTION eats a week-old tuna sandwich with relish and walks over to thebigdog, leg raised, to let 'em rip. |
| 18:31.06 | mindjuju | YEAH!!! |
| 18:31.25 | thebigdog | yeah now |
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| 20:53.11 | _psychic_ | he's here, actually. |
| 20:53.16 | _psychic_ | right here. |
| 20:53.33 | wps | ~passion |
| 20:53.34 | jbot | it has been said that passion is a very nice thing |
| 20:54.05 | wps | how do you really feel, jbot? |
| 20:54.07 | wps | ~passion |
| 20:54.09 | jbot | extra, extra, read all about it, passion is an irrational but irresistible motive for a belief or action |
| 20:56.27 | Lone_Wanderer | woah, where'd that come from? |
| 21:07.04 | macnewbold | you can change jbot's factoids in a private msg to him too, or someone may have done it in another channel |
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| 21:13.44 | optikal | hehe, odd I haven't had to do this before.. feel a bit like a noob asking, but how would I read a file into a variable that has php inside it, and have it parse the php? |
| 21:14.22 | optikal | I.e test.php contains "<? echo "test"; ?>" and I want to do like $var = file_get_contents('test.php'); and have $var return 'test' |
| 21:14.43 | macnewbold | ~welcome jbot |
| 21:14.55 | jbot | [all in unison] Hi, jbot! |
| 21:14.55 | wps | wouldn't just including the file do what you want? |
| 21:14.55 | macnewbold | ~greet jbot |
| 21:14.57 | jbot | ACTION dumps a bucket of cold oatmeal on jbot |
| 21:15.00 | wps | included files are parsed in line |
| 21:15.09 | optikal | wps: The file has HTML at the start, and breaks in and out of PHP at certain points... I want to store it into a variable for emailing |
| 21:15.51 | wps | I have a system that does something similar |
| 21:15.55 | wps | email with variables |
| 21:16.06 | wps | my email template is just a text file |
| 21:16.07 | wps | no PHP |
| 21:16.24 | wps | it has variables that are designated by a certain character and all caps |
| 21:16.44 | optikal | yeah, thats how I've always done it |
| 21:16.46 | wps | PHP reads the text file into a variable and then a replaces the "variables" from a dictionary array |
| 21:16.47 | optikal | I use like %FIRSTNAME% |
| 21:17.07 | optikal | But I'm looping through a kind of bing $_POST, and laying out a html table with the data, so that's why I didn't go that route |
| 21:17.09 | wps | will that not work for your situation here? |
| 21:17.15 | optikal | *big |
| 21:17.16 | wps | hmm |
| 21:17.40 | wps | not sure if I have an answer then… I'd have to think through it longer |
| 21:18.12 | jsmith | optikal: Did you look at eval()? |
| 21:19.51 | optikal | jsmith: I haven't.. that may be the ticket, let me read up on it.. thanks |
| 21:20.05 | wps | let us know if that works here, optikal |
| 21:20.40 | jsmith | s/out/ought/ |
| 21:20.46 | jsmith | Man, I'm having a hard time typing today |
| 21:20.48 | Lone_Wanderer | ~love firebug |
| 21:20.49 | jbot | If you love firebug so much, why don't you marry it? (oooooh) |
| 21:20.51 | Lone_Wanderer | Maybe I will! |
| 21:21.04 | optikal | hmm... would that parse something like $string = eval("blah blah blah <? foreach($_POST as $key => $var) echo "$key $var"; ?> blah blah");? |
| 21:21.39 | optikal | Thats my biggest thing.. running through my loops |
| 21:22.07 | jsmith | It should |
| 21:22.09 | optikal | I was thinking of just putting all the html into a variable, and appending onto the variable with the data from the loops.. but trying to avoid |
| 21:22.15 | optikal | alright, Ill check it out |
| 21:31.26 | optikal | jsmith: Yeah, that wasn't working out.. http://rafb.net/p/APp4u426.html |
| 21:35.21 | thebigdog | optikal, you might need to put a return in eval to echo it out |
| 21:35.41 | thebigdog | or assign it to a var to echo out |
| 21:38.15 | optikal | What do you mean by 'put a return in eval'? |
| 21:50.10 | thebigdog | since you are not assigning the evaluated code to a var then i dont think you can do an echo on eval |
| 21:50.20 | thebigdog | that is where the return comes int |
| 21:50.33 | thebigdog | echo eval("return $code"); |
| 21:50.50 | thebigdog | instead of this |
| 21:51.10 | dataw0lf | eval just runs the code, and all values are dumped into the calling namespace. |
| 21:51.22 | dataw0lf | so if you have eval("$x = 5;"); |
| 21:51.31 | dataw0lf | you can call $x later, after the eval call. |
| 21:52.57 | thebigdog | correct |
| 21:53.10 | thebigdog | but echo eval($var); is probably not going to work |
| 21:53.17 | dataw0lf | well, no. |
| 21:53.25 | dataw0lf | you don't need an echo |
| 21:53.45 | thebigdog | but you might be able to do this echo eval(return $var); |
| 21:54.23 | dataw0lf | whatever is returned in eval is passed as the return, correct |
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| 22:06.22 | jsmith | optikal: I've got 80% of a solution for you, but it's got a bug in it and I've gotta run |
| 22:06.28 | jsmith | optikal: I'll give it to you tomorrow |
| 22:06.51 | optikal | jsmith: Alright man, thanks~ |
| 22:22.12 | PoeticIntensity | ~birthday beandog |
| 22:22.14 | jbot | ACTION Happy Birthday to you, Happy birthday to you!, HAPPY BIRTHDAY DEEEAARR beandog, Happy Birthday toooo yoooou! |
| 22:22.24 | PoeticIntensity | w00t! |
| 22:22.29 | beandog | :) |
| 22:22.45 | PoeticIntensity | Monster. |
| 22:23.03 | PoeticIntensity | Who here prefers Monster to Rockstar? |
| 22:23.06 | PoeticIntensity | or vice versa? |
| 22:23.09 | PoeticIntensity | or Red Bull? |
| 22:23.20 | PoeticIntensity | or thinks people who consume such beverages are going straight to hell to burn for eternity. |
| 22:23.23 | PoeticIntensity | .....? |
| 22:24.40 | herlo | wps: ping |
| 22:26.30 | dataw0lf | PoeticIntensity: the latterest. |
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| 22:45.49 | PoeticIntensity | Red Bull, eh'? |
| 22:45.58 | PoeticIntensity | beandog, you drink red bull? |
| 22:46.05 | PoeticIntensity | holy bajeebers! |
| 22:46.10 | beandog | no |
| 22:46.11 | dataw0lf | no, I think people who consume such beverage are going straight to hell. |
| 22:46.12 | PoeticIntensity | ~lart beandog |
| 22:46.16 | PoeticIntensity | ROFL |
| 22:46.17 | PoeticIntensity | oh |
| 22:46.38 | PoeticIntensity | uhhh... yeah... I had forgot about the latterest portion of .... uhh... what I wrote. |
| 22:46.39 | PoeticIntensity | 'n' stuff. |
| 22:46.44 | beandog | puts hair on your knees |
| 22:46.54 | PoeticIntensity | beer, or hell? |
| 22:47.24 | dataw0lf | I drink beer.... IN HELL! hahahaha. ha. hm |
| 22:47.39 | PoeticIntensity | I do not approve such blasphemy in this forum. |
| 22:47.49 | PoeticIntensity | there will be no beer in hell. |
| 22:47.52 | PoeticIntensity | I have it on good authority. |
| 22:48.12 | PoeticIntensity | uhhh..... yeah. |
| 22:48.25 | PoeticIntensity | is it quiet in here, or...... |
| 22:48.28 | PoeticIntensity | hot....? |
| 22:48.28 | dataw0lf | well I'm not going to Hell, apparently. Because I can tell you, I bring beer wherever I go. |
| 22:48.36 | PoeticIntensity | LOL |
| 22:48.40 | beandog | heh |
| 22:49.08 | PoeticIntensity | this place makes me laugh... |
| 22:49.08 | beandog | :C |
| 22:49.14 | PoeticIntensity | beandog found a bug in beandog. |
| 22:49.23 | PoeticIntensity | er..... |
| 22:49.34 | PoeticIntensity | it's your birthday... you can't have bugs on your birthday! |
| 22:49.39 | beandog | yah |
| 22:49.41 | beandog | time to go home! |
| 22:49.46 | PoeticIntensity | oh, so close. |
| 22:49.59 | PoeticIntensity | with the way the weather is lookin', I don't think I'll be washin' my car. |
| 22:50.08 | beandog | oh? |
| 22:50.15 | beandog | slacker |
| 22:50.15 | PoeticIntensity | maybe. |
| 22:50.15 | PoeticIntensity | dunno |
| 22:50.16 | dataw0lf | yea, the rain we're getting is about to go straight east towards y'all |
| 22:50.42 | beandog | PoeticIntensity: when you gonna fix your projector |
| 22:50.47 | PoeticIntensity | dunno. |
| 22:50.56 | macnewbold | dataw0lf: you could meet us at the salt flats in wendover next time, if you've got wheels that can keep up |
| 22:51.00 | PoeticIntensity | the idea of spending $400.00 on a light bulb makes me kinda crazy. |
| 22:51.05 | macnewbold | no kidding |
| 22:51.15 | beandog | how long do they usually last |
| 22:51.19 | macnewbold | mine came with an extra bulb for $18 :) |
| 22:51.30 | PoeticIntensity | bah. |
| 22:51.30 | macnewbold | it's usually something like 3000-5000 hours of use |
| 22:51.38 | PoeticIntensity | unless your fans get jammed... |
| 22:51.48 | dataw0lf | macnewbold: ho ho ho |
| 22:51.48 | PoeticIntensity | I gotta clean mine out. |
| 22:51.52 | dataw0lf | I have a Passat GLX son |
| 22:51.57 | PoeticIntensity | oh dude.... |
| 22:51.57 | macnewbold | bring it on |
| 22:51.59 | PoeticIntensity | bring it. |
| 22:52.01 | dataw0lf | Mustang? Keep up with me? |
| 22:52.06 | dataw0lf | haha, vely funny |
| 22:52.07 | macnewbold | how far is wendover from reno? |
| 22:52.09 | PoeticIntensity | it'd be a pleasure. |
| 22:52.13 | macnewbold | a big pleasure |
| 22:52.13 | dataw0lf | couple hours, at least |
| 22:52.20 | PoeticIntensity | gah... |
| 22:52.24 | dataw0lf | probably more like 3. |
| 22:52.24 | PoeticIntensity | ya gotta come. |
| 22:52.27 | macnewbold | you'll learn all about what the backside of my Highlander looks like |
| 22:52.32 | macnewbold | yeah, it's 1.5 from SLC |
| 22:52.37 | beandog | heh |
| 22:52.45 | PoeticIntensity | as you spew salt all over him. |
| 22:52.50 | macnewbold | oh jea |
| 22:52.50 | dataw0lf | the backside of your Highlander? How, when I'm lapping you? |
| 22:53.02 | macnewbold | when I'm towing you back... |
| 22:53.02 | PoeticIntensity | all I gotta say is... bring it. |
| 22:53.05 | PoeticIntensity | ROFL |
| 22:53.07 | PoeticIntensity | beauty.... |
| 22:53.28 | beandog | thats great :) |
| 22:53.46 | dataw0lf | I used to smoke Mustangs on the autobahn all the time with my BMW, kids. |
| 22:53.53 | dataw0lf | now I have to go. |
| 22:53.55 | beandog | dataw0lf would never come up ... he cant let the legend die |
| 22:54.04 | macnewbold | mustang must also be a brand of some kind of tobacco or other smokable product |
| 22:54.12 | dataw0lf | hoho |
| 22:55.36 | PoeticIntensity | year? dataw0lf? |
| 22:55.56 | PoeticIntensity | what year is your passat? |
| 22:56.06 | dataw0lf | 03 |
| 22:56.09 | macnewbold | note that he doesn't have the BMW anymore, now he's got a volkswagon |
| 22:56.14 | dataw0lf | ya |
| 22:56.16 | PoeticIntensity | noted. |
| 22:56.16 | macnewbold | different german vehicle |
| 22:56.17 | dataw0lf | a VW Passat GLX |
| 22:56.19 | dataw0lf | note the GLX |
| 22:56.22 | PoeticIntensity | noted. |
| 22:56.23 | dataw0lf | as I smoke you. |
| 22:56.26 | macnewbold | I don't care how many extra letters it has |
| 22:56.31 | dataw0lf | hehe |
| 22:56.37 | dataw0lf | you'll care about the engine, I can assure you of that. |
| 22:56.49 | macnewbold | how many HP does the engine have? 4-cyl or 6-cyl? |
| 22:56.53 | Lone_Wanderer | GLX - Grand Luxury Express? |
| 22:57.35 | Lone_Wanderer | Guten Luffenbagen X...German-sounding word? |
| 22:58.28 | PoeticIntensity | have ya done anything to it, dataw0lf? |
| 22:58.30 | PoeticIntensity | turbo? |
| 22:58.32 | PoeticIntensity | supercharger? |
| 22:58.33 | PoeticIntensity | intake? |
| 22:58.35 | PoeticIntensity | exhaust? |
| 22:58.41 | PoeticIntensity | if not, I'd race ya any day. |
| 22:58.51 | Lone_Wanderer | Have you souped up your Mustang? |
| 22:58.54 | PoeticIntensity | nope. |
| 22:59.04 | PoeticIntensity | just got the stock specs for an '03 Passat GLX. |
| 22:59.14 | Lone_Wanderer | Sometimes I wish I had a fast sexycar, but then I remember that there are other things I'd rather spend my money on. |
| 22:59.17 | PoeticIntensity | a little more than half what the mustang has. |
| 22:59.24 | PoeticIntensity | LW - true dat. |
| 22:59.32 | Lone_Wanderer | Maybe when I'm a billionaire. |
| 22:59.37 | PoeticIntensity | I have *always* enjoyed driving. |
| 22:59.47 | PoeticIntensity | but always have been too responsible to do anything about it. |
| 22:59.49 | PoeticIntensity | until now. |
| 22:59.51 | PoeticIntensity | :) |
| 22:59.52 | Lone_Wanderer | Me too. |
| 22:59.55 | Lone_Wanderer | :) |
| 23:00.14 | Lone_Wanderer | Maybe when I'm older and have more money. I'll put it down as a minor goal and tell my financial advisor to make it work. |
| 23:00.33 | Lone_Wanderer | <3 not having to worry about money |
| 23:00.48 | dataw0lf | jeez, you guys talk more than old women |
| 23:00.48 | dataw0lf | it's a 6, mac |
| 23:00.50 | PoeticIntensity | ah.... he returns! |
| 23:00.54 | dataw0lf | and I have a k03 turbo upgrade |
| 23:01.00 | PoeticIntensity | proof is in the puddin'... |
| 23:01.05 | PoeticIntensity | any idea what it dyno'ed at ? |
| 23:01.11 | Lone_Wanderer | Although, apparently there is a 6 cylinder available for the car I've got. It'd be interesting to see what it'd cost to swap out the engine. |
| 23:01.15 | dataw0lf | and awe cat back exhaust, and flash upgrades |
| 23:01.22 | dataw0lf | PoeticIntensity: no idea. |
| 23:01.37 | PoeticIntensity | that does change a bit. |
| 23:01.38 | beandog | sweet |
| 23:01.43 | beandog | I just used algebra in my job. |
| 23:01.45 | PoeticIntensity | dunno, man... |
| 23:01.45 | dataw0lf | not to be arrogant, but I'm pretty sure I could smoke your mustang. |
| 23:01.50 | beandog | thats the second time in my life I can remember doing that. |
| 23:01.55 | PoeticIntensity | we'd have to see... |
| 23:01.56 | Lone_Wanderer | beandog: lol, what'd you do? |
| 23:02.01 | dataw0lf | we shore will. |
| 23:02.01 | PoeticIntensity | I've seen some pretty darned impressive 4-bangers. |
| 23:02.10 | PoeticIntensity | (yours is six) |
| 23:02.13 | beandog | w = (x * 120) + ( ( x - 1) * 10) |
| 23:02.22 | Lone_Wanderer | What were you figuring out? |
| 23:02.28 | beandog | find out the width of a colspan |
| 23:02.36 | Lone_Wanderer | cool |
| 23:02.41 | Lone_Wanderer | ahh, I see. yeah. |
| 23:02.51 | PoeticIntensity | heh... I raced a Neon SRT-4 Stage-3. |
| 23:02.58 | PoeticIntensity | neck-and-neck... |
| 23:03.03 | PoeticIntensity | depended on who got the better start. |
| 23:03.14 | dataw0lf | the cars I've raced against the most have been mustangs and corvettes |
| 23:03.16 | PoeticIntensity | so... I definitely don't underestimate what can be done to an engine. |
| 23:03.23 | beandog | dataw0lf: dont worry, even Ive smoked PoeticIntensity. Its not like its hard. |
| 23:03.26 | beandog | ;) |
| 23:03.37 | PoeticIntensity | heh... |
| 23:03.38 | dataw0lf | I've always been unimpressed with mustangs, at least for the past 20 so odd years. |
| 23:03.39 | PoeticIntensity | dork |
| 23:03.42 | Lone_Wanderer | PoeticIntensity is the village herb. Everyone's had a smoke. |
| 23:03.53 | beandog | LMAO |
| 23:03.54 | Lone_Wanderer | I want a 95 Impala. |
| 23:03.57 | PoeticIntensity | that's great. |
| 23:04.09 | Lone_Wanderer | Gigantic. Black. Fast. |
| 23:04.09 | dataw0lf | more like a turtle with a nice looking shell... |
| 23:04.10 | PoeticIntensity | The thing that I take comfort in...... is this: |
| 23:04.18 | beandog | were all wrong? |
| 23:04.20 | PoeticIntensity | I haven't done jack to my car yet. |
| 23:04.33 | PoeticIntensity | for a couple grand, I can get my HP up to around 550. |
| 23:04.47 | dataw0lf | at the wheels? |
| 23:04.55 | PoeticIntensity | then I'm fairly certain I'd be able to smoke just about any 4 or 6 cylinder engine out there. |
| 23:04.57 | PoeticIntensity | yes... RWHP. |
| 23:05.03 | dataw0lf | on a salt flat, I don't see a mustang converting to that much |
| 23:05.06 | dataw0lf | but we'll see |
| 23:05.15 | beandog | you mean youre having trouble smoking 4 cylinder cars? ;) |
| 23:05.21 | PoeticIntensity | some of em', yeah. |
| 23:05.24 | beandog | buh |
| 23:05.27 | PoeticIntensity | I'm a novice driver, but learning fast. |
| 23:05.28 | Lone_Wanderer | Huh, a 95 impala these days goes for a fairly decent price. The interiors will almost certainly be in crap shape but that can be fixed. Hmmmmmm... |
| 23:05.30 | beandog | D: |
| 23:05.47 | dataw0lf | just don't fishtail into me... damn novices... |
| 23:05.53 | macnewbold | if you soup it up right, I bet a 4-banger can still do reasonably well, especially since they're usually small and light |
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| 23:06.03 | PoeticIntensity | and dataw0lf, you're probably right about the salt.... however... |
| 23:06.15 | PoeticIntensity | on pavement, I've seen dynos of mustangs into the 700-800's... |
| 23:06.22 | dataw0lf | well, if you want to road race me, I'll do that any day of the week. |
| 23:06.25 | PoeticIntensity | but not without major mods to the engine to be able to handle it. |
| 23:06.32 | PoeticIntensity | I'd love to, actually. |
| 23:06.36 | dataw0lf | passat glx versus mustang on a curving road, you're going to be gone. |
| 23:06.36 | PoeticIntensity | I enjoy racing quite a bit. |
| 23:06.45 | PoeticIntensity | probably true. |
| 23:06.47 | dataw0lf | you'll lose so much horse power with the slightest curve, I'll just float by you |
| 23:06.59 | PoeticIntensity | I'm more interested in 0-60. |
| 23:07.07 | PoeticIntensity | no arguments there. |
| 23:07.09 | dataw0lf | oh, you'll beat me from 0-60 |
| 23:07.12 | dataw0lf | easily |
| 23:07.14 | PoeticIntensity | Mustangs are horsepower. |
| 23:07.22 | dataw0lf | but after about 80, 90, you're going to be hurting. |
| 23:07.26 | PoeticIntensity | not slalom |
| 23:07.29 | PoeticIntensity | now..... |
| 23:07.30 | PoeticIntensity | see..... |
| 23:07.33 | PoeticIntensity | I don't think that's true, either. |
| 23:07.37 | dataw0lf | oh, I do. |
| 23:07.40 | PoeticIntensity | if it's in a straight line, I think I'd take ya. |
| 23:07.48 | PoeticIntensity | any curves, man... I'm gone. |
| 23:07.53 | dataw0lf | with a 94 BMW I used to smoke Mustangs of every size and shape past 100 |
| 23:08.00 | dataw0lf | on the autobahn |
| 23:08.03 | dataw0lf | straight up |
| 23:08.03 | PoeticIntensity | BMWs are pretty quick. |
| 23:08.10 | PoeticIntensity | you're driving a VW. |
| 23:08.23 | dataw0lf | the vw passat glx engine ain't nothing to be making fun of. |
| 23:08.36 | dataw0lf | VWs have improved drastically |
| 23:08.38 | PoeticIntensity | The Shelby Mustang GT500 beat the C6 Corvette in 70-90 MPH range.. |
| 23:08.42 | dataw0lf | I wouldn't race you with a 95 VW |
| 23:08.48 | dataw0lf | but past 2001, you're going to be in trouble |
| 23:08.54 | PoeticIntensity | we'll just have to see.... |
| 23:09.00 | dataw0lf | indeed. |
| 23:09.09 | PoeticIntensity | Granted, I'd lose hands down with anything which involved steering... |
| 23:09.18 | PoeticIntensity | but... 0-100, I think it'd be a fun race. |
| 23:09.34 | dataw0lf | 0-100, I'll do that, any day of the week |
| 23:09.35 | PoeticIntensity | I've beaten Porsche Carrera 4's. |
| 23:09.51 | PoeticIntensity | Lots of ricers, Hondas, Integras, RSX, TSX, etc... |
| 23:09.55 | PoeticIntensity | never raced a Passat, though. |
| 23:10.16 | PoeticIntensity | heh... and my little bro's '95 Mustang GT. |
| 23:10.19 | PoeticIntensity | that was fun. |
| 23:10.26 | dataw0lf | you should get a good flywheel, disc, and pressure plate combo and learn how to do some good clutch driving, if you don't know already. |
| 23:10.29 | PoeticIntensity | I've also had my butt eaten alive... |
| 23:10.37 | dataw0lf | I'd say that'd be the first upgrade if you're really intrested in racing. |
| 23:10.50 | PoeticIntensity | well.... I'm not really interested in "racing" - racing... |
| 23:10.54 | Lone_Wanderer | PoeticIntensity: Do you know what an LT1 is? |
| 23:10.54 | PoeticIntensity | I'll never go to the track. |
| 23:10.58 | PoeticIntensity | I do. |
| 23:11.08 | dataw0lf | I'm talking about street racing |
| 23:11.18 | PoeticIntensity | yeah... |
| 23:11.21 | dataw0lf | get that pedal pressure as low as possible |
| 23:11.38 | Lone_Wanderer | That's what the 94-96 Impalas had. There are a handfull for sale at a decent price but they've got a lot of miles on them. |
| 23:11.59 | PoeticIntensity | not a bad engine. |
| 23:12.34 | Lone_Wanderer | Yeah, I'm just considering whether it'd be worth it to buy one with high mileage or not. |
| 23:12.37 | dataw0lf | I want a 71 GTO |
| 23:12.44 | dataw0lf | or a 70-71 Charger |
| 23:12.55 | PoeticIntensity | dataw0lf.... The one thing I hate about street racing is the testosterone. Explanation: I enjoy the adrenaline, but I hate the rivalry. |
| 23:13.12 | PoeticIntensity | people get so pent up in being the fastest... |
| 23:13.19 | dataw0lf | well, it's mainly 18-22 year olds, you're going to get that. |
| 23:13.21 | PoeticIntensity | and there is some excitement about winning... |
| 23:13.22 | PoeticIntensity | but man... |
| 23:14.16 | PoeticIntensity | going nuts and crap like that ..... |
| 23:14.16 | PoeticIntensity | I also like my car a lot... and I Don't wanna lose it. |
| 23:14.16 | PoeticIntensity | and since racing is illegal in Utah... |
| 23:14.16 | PoeticIntensity | I'm not really too interested in doing it illegally. |
| 23:14.16 | Lone_Wanderer | Lose it? |
| 23:14.16 | PoeticIntensity | lose it. |
| 23:14.16 | Lone_Wanderer | How? |
| 23:14.17 | dataw0lf | yea, they'd take it from him. |
| 23:14.17 | PoeticIntensity | they impound it and charge you a LOT of money. |
| 23:14.17 | Lone_Wanderer | ahh |
| 23:14.23 | PoeticIntensity | not too into that crud. |
| 23:14.30 | PoeticIntensity | but man.... I *love* driving. |
| 23:14.47 | PoeticIntensity | nothin' like trying to keep control while sliding diagonal at 70+ MPH. |
| 23:14.53 | dataw0lf | I've never been extremely good at it, but it was pretty popular in Chicago, and then I went to Germany with the autobahn, and it's life over there. |
| 23:15.04 | dataw0lf | you'll be doing 130-140 and some car will pass you like you're standing still, it's nuts. |
| 23:15.06 | PoeticIntensity | ah... nice.. |
| 23:15.19 | PoeticIntensity | dude.... |
| 23:15.21 | PoeticIntensity | DUDE! |
| 23:15.28 | PoeticIntensity | I raced a Ferrari F-40 the other day! |
| 23:15.35 | PoeticIntensity | holy my FREAKING CRAP! |
| 23:15.40 | PoeticIntensity | that car is..... |
| 23:15.47 | PoeticIntensity | exactly what dataw0lf is describing. |
| 23:15.48 | timinator | I'm out... |
| 23:15.51 | timinator | later guys |
| 23:15.55 | PoeticIntensity | I was giving it CRAZY gas... |
| 23:16.03 | PoeticIntensity | it was as if I was standing still. |
| 23:16.07 | beandog | seeya tim |
| 23:16.08 | PoeticIntensity | bye timinator |
| 23:16.16 | dataw0lf | I actually had gum fall out of my mouth one time when I was doing 120 and this ferrari passed me like a rocket when i was headed to Amsterdam one weekend. |
| 23:16.17 | PoeticIntensity | it was incredible. |
| 23:16.28 | PoeticIntensity | I believe it.. |
| 23:16.33 | PoeticIntensity | I've never seen anything that fast in my life. |
| 23:16.47 | PoeticIntensity | I'm amazed he even gave me the pleasure of being beaten by him.. |
| 23:16.50 | PoeticIntensity | *NO* comparison. |
| 23:16.53 | PoeticIntensity | holy hannah, that was fast. |
| 23:17.01 | PoeticIntensity | it was 0-60, too. |
| 23:17.04 | PoeticIntensity | we were at a stoplight. |
| 23:17.12 | PoeticIntensity | woah, boy. |
| 23:17.14 | PoeticIntensity | crazy fast. |
| 23:17.28 | PoeticIntensity | 3 seconds after we started, he was literally 5-7 car-lengths ahead of me. |
| 23:18.03 | PoeticIntensity | I was like.... "Did my car just die or something??" |
| 23:18.16 | PoeticIntensity | insane... |
| 23:18.36 | PoeticIntensity | maybe everyone is gone... |
| 23:18.43 | PoeticIntensity | maybe they don't believe me. |
| 23:18.46 | PoeticIntensity | maybe they hate me. |
| 23:18.51 | PoeticIntensity | but then again... |
| 23:18.53 | PoeticIntensity | maybe not. |
| 23:22.48 | beandog | heh |
| 23:22.58 | beandog | such a range of emotions :) |
| 23:24.59 | PoeticIntensity | you hate me, beandog. |
| 23:25.00 | PoeticIntensity | I know it. |
| 23:25.15 | PoeticIntensity | I could feel it today as I slurped down my smothered burrito. |
| 23:25.17 | beandog | actually I just hang with you because of your car |
| 23:25.32 | PoeticIntensity | aaaaaaaand that brings us a perfect segway into YOUR car! |
| 23:25.40 | PoeticIntensity | When you gonna get a stage-2 package for it? |
| 23:25.43 | PoeticIntensity | :) |
| 23:25.52 | beandog | when I can drive stick without costing me $2k a year |
| 23:25.56 | Lone_Wanderer | what's a 2-stage package? |
| 23:26.03 | beandog | extra ~40hp or so on my car |
| 23:26.06 | PoeticIntensity | what was it.... 70 more HP? |
| 23:26.08 | PoeticIntensity | ah... 40. |
| 23:26.20 | beandog | I dont remember |
| 23:26.20 | beandog | I know it was at least 40 |
| 23:26.42 | PoeticIntensity | I gotta get my exhaust / intake upgraded... |
| 23:26.44 | Lone_Wanderer | What's it do though? |
| 23:26.57 | Lone_Wanderer | And why would driving a stick cost you $2k a year? Fuel inefficiency? |
| 23:27.02 | PoeticIntensity | LOL |
| 23:27.04 | beandog | uh |
| 23:27.07 | PoeticIntensity | LMAO |
| 23:27.08 | beandog | no comment. :) |
| 23:27.15 | PoeticIntensity | beautiful... |
| 23:27.28 | Lone_Wanderer | ? |
| 23:27.30 | PoeticIntensity | you're learnin', though.... |
| 23:27.44 | PoeticIntensity | Steve is learning how to drive a stick.... better. |
| 23:27.51 | beandog | lets just say its not a good idea to get a sports car for your first car with a manual transmission |
| 23:27.52 | PoeticIntensity | let's just say that. |
| 23:27.58 | PoeticIntensity | :) |
| 23:27.59 | Lone_Wanderer | oh, okay |
| 23:28.16 | PoeticIntensity | is your passat manual, dataw0lf? |
| 23:28.26 | Lone_Wanderer | Can someone explain to me the benefit of double clutching? |
| 23:28.53 | PoeticIntensity | under what circumstance, and where did you hear that term? |
| 23:29.00 | PoeticIntensity | Fast and the Furious? |
| 23:29.07 | beandog | ooh I like that movie |
| 23:29.09 | Lone_Wanderer | lol no |
| 23:29.11 | beandog | Tokyo Drift was cool |
| 23:29.20 | PoeticIntensity | yeah... t'was indeed. |
| 23:29.31 | Lone_Wanderer | I used to frequent the NAISSO (National Association of Impala SS Owners) forum, where they talked about racing |
| 23:29.53 | PoeticIntensity | I did quite a bit of research on that term "double clutching". |
| 23:29.55 | Lone_Wanderer | and someone once mentioned learning to double clutch (not in their Impala, obviously - they had another car that was manual) |
| 23:30.31 | PoeticIntensity | the only circumstance under which it is beneficial to double clutch is in a turn, while decelerating and getting ready to pound the gas in the straightway. |
| 23:30.52 | PoeticIntensity | as far as my research goes, that is. |
| 23:31.01 | dataw0lf | basically, you go into neutral, allowing your engine to cool down, so the next gear is a much easier transition |
| 23:31.18 | PoeticIntensity | bingo. |
| 23:31.30 | PoeticIntensity | 0-60.... doesn't require a double-clutch.. |
| 23:31.31 | dataw0lf | I just double clutch normally *shrug* |
| 23:31.31 | PoeticIntensity | heh... |
| 23:31.34 | PoeticIntensity | unless you wanna lose. |
| 23:31.39 | PoeticIntensity | me too. |
| 23:31.56 | dataw0lf | it certainly lowers the amount of stress you're putting on your gear gox. |
| 23:31.58 | dataw0lf | box* |
| 23:32.02 | PoeticIntensity | I'm still learning to use my right foot for both brake and gas through the turns, though. |
| 23:32.18 | dataw0lf | aw man you drive like a grannie? |
| 23:32.19 | dataw0lf | ;-) |
| 23:32.28 | PoeticIntensity | it's turning out to be quite helpful... |
| 23:32.42 | PoeticIntensity | heh.... if my granny drove like that, I would have liked to been drivin' with her! |
| 23:33.02 | PoeticIntensity | actually... I'm still getting used to my car. |
| 23:33.06 | Lone_Wanderer | Apparently double clutching isn't necessary any more because modern gearboxes perform the syncronization automatically. |
| 23:33.07 | PoeticIntensity | I've only had it 3 months. |
| 23:33.16 | PoeticIntensity | sure. |
| 23:33.24 | PoeticIntensity | ok... I'm outta here. |
| 23:33.34 | Lone_Wanderer | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_declutch |
| 23:33.56 | PoeticIntensity | hasta luego! |