| 00:06.00 | mindjuju | thebigdog , you around? |
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| 00:07.13 | mindjuju | yo bigdog_ut |
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| 00:12.28 | jsmith | los muchachos quieren PostgreSQL |
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| 00:16.03 | mindjuju | el_gaucho |
| 00:18.37 | PoeticIntensity | I'd be *super* interested in learning about security / hacking web apps. |
| 00:19.03 | PoeticIntensity | when is dataw0lf going to teach a uphpu class on it? |
| 00:19.14 | PoeticIntensity | and where the heck is beandog?!?! |
| 00:19.22 | jsmith | Google for "SQL injection" and "cross-site scripting" |
| 00:19.32 | PoeticIntensity | I know about sql injection... |
| 00:19.37 | PoeticIntensity | cross-site scripting.... hrmmm..... |
| 00:19.40 | PoeticIntensity | never heard of that one. |
| 00:19.58 | dataw0lf | XSS |
| 00:20.27 | dataw0lf | it's transplanting client code with your own, basically. |
| 00:20.39 | dataw0lf | more of a phishing hack |
| 00:21.02 | dataw0lf | although irregularly it can be used to gain access to a system |
| 00:21.19 | mindjuju | this looks interesting |
| 00:21.20 | mindjuju | http://www.primotechnology.com/news/0307/commodore/first-pics-and-details-of-commodore-pc.html |
| 00:23.24 | PoeticIntensity | interesting. |
| 00:31.19 | mindjuju | darn that thebigdog , i was going to show him something |
| 01:05.15 | PoeticIntensity | 'night all. |
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| 01:55.29 | Utah_Dave | dataw0lf: you around? |
| 02:03.32 | mindjuju | prolly no, seems like he is usually out by 6:30 our time |
| 02:11.19 | Utah_Dave | true |
| 02:11.29 | Utah_Dave | how are you doing, mindjuju? |
| 02:12.01 | mindjuju | not too shabby |
| 02:13.40 | Utah_Dave | working late again? |
| 02:14.47 | mindjuju | yeah, just barely got a new box for my padawan |
| 02:14.50 | mindjuju | so building that out |
| 02:15.22 | mindjuju | and, writting tons of emails on different thigns |
| 02:15.27 | mindjuju | what you up to? |
| 02:15.27 | mindjuju | \ |
| 02:16.26 | Utah_Dave | I'm putting together a voip system and I'm looking up some dial plan details for asterisk |
| 02:17.03 | mindjuju | are you going to start a VOIP company? |
| 02:18.41 | Utah_Dave | Yep, in fact it's already going |
| 02:18.52 | mindjuju | you're kidding! that's awesome! |
| 02:24.51 | jsmith | Utah_Dave: I can help for about 10 minutes before I crash... |
| 02:26.13 | Utah_Dave | jsmith: thanks! I've got to add calling cards to our system. So, I'm looking at Dial() right now. In your book, as a matter of fact |
| 02:26.42 | jsmith | Have you checked out AstCC? |
| 02:26.44 | mindjuju | how cool is that! |
| 02:26.53 | Utah_Dave | the L option seems helpful |
| 02:27.09 | Utah_Dave | I haven't yet. I was going to look at other implementations in a little bit |
| 02:27.17 | Utah_Dave | Do you recommend AstCC? |
| 02:27.30 | jsmith | If that doesn't work... you'll want to look at the L option to Dial() |
| 02:27.33 | jsmith | It's your friend |
| 02:28.34 | Utah_Dave | Yeah, it looks like you can figure out how much time the user has left and warn them and everything |
| 02:28.38 | jsmith | Then make sure you have an "h" extension |
| 02:28.54 | Utah_Dave | what the "h" extension? |
| 02:29.04 | jsmith | (than runs a func_odbc function to decrement the number of minutes from their calling card) |
| 02:29.11 | jsmith | h = "hangup |
| 02:29.25 | jsmith | It gets run when the caller hangs up |
| 02:30.10 | Utah_Dave | Oh, cool. I didn't know that |
| 02:30.52 | jsmith | You learn something new every day ;-) |
| 02:31.53 | jsmith | So, after a year or more of listening to me tell you why not to build a VoIP company... I'm glad you're not taking my advice ;-) |
| 02:31.53 | Utah_Dave | definitely |
| 02:32.25 | Utah_Dave | well, I have a buddy who started a company selling laptops to Spanish speakers. He's doing well and started reselling voip service |
| 02:32.52 | Utah_Dave | he was having huge problems with the company he was going through and asked me if I could do something for him |
| 02:33.24 | jsmith | Cool |
| 02:33.26 | Utah_Dave | I'm working with the Arrivaltel guys for sip minutes and help |
| 02:33.33 | jsmith | Yeah, they're good friends of mine |
| 02:33.54 | jsmith | Anyway, shout if you need any help... I'm usually around, and I'm happy to help out |
| 02:33.56 | Utah_Dave | yeah, they're great. I've gone to the last few utaug meetings and they've answered a million questions for me |
| 02:34.11 | jsmith | Sure... wait 'til I move away to start attending... |
| 02:34.21 | Utah_Dave | thanks a ton, jsmith. I appreciate it. and I'll take you up on that |
| 02:34.23 | mindjuju | heh |
| 02:34.24 | Utah_Dave | :) |
| 02:34.25 | jsmith | Anyhoo, I'm about to crash... too many hours without sleep... |
| 02:34.31 | Utah_Dave | ok, have a good one |
| 02:34.34 | jsmith | Later... |
| 02:34.36 | mindjuju | cya jsmith |
| 02:35.29 | jsmith | Later mindjuju |
| 02:35.43 | burnin | jsmith = jared smith? |
| 02:35.49 | mindjuju | yup |
| 02:35.50 | Utah_Dave | yep |
| 02:35.55 | burnin | :) |
| 02:35.57 | jsmith | burnin: Yup |
| 02:36.15 | jsmith | Im I that famous? |
| 02:36.18 | burnin | hey jsmith, I'm your previous next door neighbor :) |
| 02:36.56 | burnin | you lived in Riverton not long ago eh? |
| 02:37.03 | jsmith | Yup... moved away in August |
| 02:37.10 | jsmith | What a small world ;-) |
| 02:37.27 | burnin | I didn't get a chance to bug you about asterisk before you moved, oh well. |
| 02:37.36 | jsmith | Well, I'm usually in the channel here |
| 02:37.39 | burnin | didn't realize you hung out in here as well |
| 02:37.44 | jsmith | Feel free to ask questions. |
| 02:37.52 | burnin | anyhow, was just surprised, not trying to keep you up. |
| 02:37.58 | jsmith | I should have a new edition of the book out soon... |
| 02:38.05 | jsmith | burnin: It's good to run into you online |
| 02:38.05 | burnin | cool |
| 02:38.12 | burnin | likewise |
| 02:39.28 | Utah_Dave | I can't wait for the new edition |
| 02:39.58 | jsmith | Neither can I... you have no idea ;-) |
| 02:40.14 | jsmith | I'm outta here... |
| 02:44.48 | burnin | funny, I've seen jsmith in here all the time, but it never clicked until he started talking about asterisk |
| 02:50.05 | mindjuju | anybody around that currently is managing an eComm solution somewhere? |
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| 02:52.22 | mindjuju | sup beandog |
| 02:52.28 | mindjuju | do you run an ecomm solution somewhere? |
| 02:52.34 | beandog | tired |
| 02:52.44 | beandog | ecomm solution? |
| 02:52.52 | beandog | whats that |
| 02:53.02 | mindjuju | like do you have a client or do you work for a company where you manage their shopping cart |
| 02:53.26 | beandog | nope and nopies |
| 02:53.40 | mindjuju | what i'm looking for are generally speaking an example of the fees that you get hit with by doing online transaction, as opposed to doing transactions locally |
| 02:54.02 | mindjuju | cause, you know, you get hit on the fact that your taking a Credit card either way, online or if they ar ein your shop |
| 02:54.03 | beandog | hmm |
| 02:54.19 | beandog | well I think merchant accounts are pretty cheap |
| 02:54.20 | mindjuju | but there is a seperate fee for an online transaction that is assessed by your online credit card portal |
| 02:54.37 | mindjuju | yeah, 2% typically, which doesn't sound like a lot |
| 02:54.44 | mindjuju | but on huge transactions, can be quiet a pinch |
| 02:55.13 | beandog | 2% |
| 02:55.16 | beandog | that doesnt seem right |
| 02:55.39 | mindjuju | pretty sure it is. well between 1.7 and 2.3 depending on the volume |
| 02:55.42 | mindjuju | have you seen cheaper? |
| 02:56.12 | beandog | Ive never heard of a percantage fee |
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| 02:58.05 | mindjuju | beandog, here is one that is showing the fee for the merchant |
| 02:58.05 | mindjuju | http://www.paymentonline.com/payment-gateway/payment-gateway-services.html#pricing |
| 02:58.08 | mindjuju | 2.1% |
| 02:58.22 | mindjuju | haven't heard of these guys though as resellers |
| 02:59.02 | mindjuju | bummer, they also don't list the AMEX fees |
| 02:59.14 | mindjuju | or discover, though discover is usually cheaper |
| 02:59.32 | beandog | huh |
| 02:59.34 | beandog | I have no idea, man. |
| 02:59.36 | beandog | Im clueless. |
| 03:00.03 | burnin | http://merchantaccounts.networksolutions.com/ 1.69% for retail accounts, whatever that means. |
| 03:00.21 | mindjuju | actually, that page shows enough that I can bounce off of that, then get specific numbers from the bank in the morning |
| 03:00.49 | *** topic/#UPHPU by wps -> Utah PHP Users Group | uphpu.org |
| 03:00.55 | mindjuju | which reminds me though, beandog, i was goign to show you and thebigdog somethign cool i saw |
| 03:00.56 | mindjuju | http://assente.altervista.org/top_10_best_linux_dvd_ripping_and_encoding_software/ |
| 03:01.46 | beandog | top 10? Theres only like 3 even worth trying. |
| 03:01.54 | mindjuju | on that list? |
| 03:02.04 | mindjuju | bummer. personally haven't tried of them |
| 03:02.06 | burnin | dvdrip on a diskless cluster is pretty cool |
| 03:02.10 | mindjuju | but thought it might be useful |
| 03:02.27 | mindjuju | you got me there, not sure what a diskless cluster is |
| 03:02.53 | beandog | I havent heard of half of these, tbh. |
| 03:03.04 | burnin | a bunch of mother boards with memory, a cpu, and a nic, PXE booting off an NFS server. |
| 03:03.36 | beandog | I hate it when these things dont put dates on their pages, you cant tell how recent development is. |
| 03:05.26 | beandog | hoo boy, this one's about window doesnt even work right. |
| 03:05.37 | mindjuju | which one? |
| 03:05.43 | beandog | lemonrip |
| 03:06.01 | beandog | Ive heard of thoggen, have no idea about it. I avoid GST. |
| 03:07.14 | beandog | dvd::rip is pretty good |
| 03:07.20 | mindjuju | Goods and Services Tax? |
| 03:08.25 | mindjuju | beandog, the data is under the title at the top, 14 march, 2007 |
| 03:09.15 | beandog | man Im starting to write php if statements in bash |
| 03:09.15 | beandog | I am tired. |
| 03:09.18 | mindjuju | i wish this was for windows. all i want for christmas is a decent prog that will rip my DVD library reliably to an avi somewhere between 700mb and 1.4g |
| 03:11.00 | beandog | heh |
| 03:11.12 | beandog | its still going to depend a lot on the movie. |
| 03:11.13 | Utah_Dave | mindjuju: have you tried DVD Shrink? I use it |
| 03:11.21 | beandog | dvd::rip does have target support though |
| 03:11.28 | mindjuju | i've heard of DVD shrink |
| 03:11.35 | mindjuju | does it convert to AVI from a DVD? |
| 03:11.38 | beandog | speaking of which, Im working on a transcode ebuild right now |
| 03:12.53 | Utah_Dave | Yeah, I think so. It's been a while since I used it, but I have it on my computer right now |
| 03:13.14 | mindjuju | i'll have to look at it |
| 03:13.35 | mindjuju | i tried a couple of progs from Divx and they kinda worked, but not well, at least for me, and not on all DVDs |
| 03:14.25 | beandog | DivX's stuff is gonna be about as crappy as you could get |
| 03:14.25 | beandog | imnsho |
| 03:14.29 | mindjuju | well, that's good to know, cause I thought it might have been my box, even though it was a p4 4ghz with 2g ram |
| 03:14.49 | mindjuju | sorry, not 4ghz, 3ghz |
| 03:17.51 | mindjuju | well, i'm headed home to go eat some dinner |
| 03:17.53 | mindjuju | night ya'll |
| 03:20.07 | Utah_Dave | night |
| 03:20.47 | beandog | seeya |
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| 15:53.22 | Utah_Dave | dataw0lf: are you awake yet? |
| 15:53.47 | dataw0lf | Indeed, good sir! |
| 15:55.23 | Utah_Dave | I just finished up a computer forensics course this week, and I learned that Windows grabs stuff from ram to fill up partial sectors on the hard drive |
| 15:55.45 | Utah_Dave | we pulled passwords and banking numbers from the slack that windows threw in there |
| 15:55.56 | Utah_Dave | does the Linux kernel do the same thing? |
| 15:56.17 | dataw0lf | negative. |
| 15:57.04 | dataw0lf | RAM caching is based on application implementation. |
| 16:00.09 | Utah_Dave | I can't believe windows does that. It's such a HUGE security issue |
| 16:00.17 | Utah_Dave | we pulled all kinds of crap out of it |
| 16:00.41 | Utah_Dave | basically, anything that ever gets put into ram has a chance of showing up in the slack somewhere |
| 16:08.17 | jsmith | Yup |
| 16:08.29 | jsmith | One more reason not to use Windows |
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| 16:20.45 | mgeary | ~greet everyone |
| 16:20.46 | jbot | ACTION dumps a bucket of cold oatmeal on everyone |
| 16:23.04 | PoeticIntensity | yeah! |
| 16:23.08 | PoeticIntensity | cold oatmeal! |
| 16:24.00 | mgeary | some like it hot |
| 16:24.05 | mgeary | some like it cold |
| 16:24.13 | thebigdog | ~love dataw0lf |
| 16:24.15 | jbot | If you love dataw0lf so much, why don't you marry it? (oooooh) |
| 16:25.25 | dataw0lf | jbot, gosh dang it, I am not an IT |
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| 16:40.23 | mgeary | so, i was thinking about my progression in web programming. i'm self-taught, and i've noticed a very clear progression in my development approach. i imagine this will resonate with others here: |
| 16:40.58 | mgeary | i started off doing in-line spaghetti/procedural code, then clued in to separation of logic and content (Smarty, in my case), then progressed to a very object-centric development model... |
| 16:41.25 | mgeary | i believe the next step is probably Framework usage |
| 16:41.45 | Lone_Wanderer | Objects are a poor man's closures. |
| 16:41.59 | mgeary | but i'm curious about your thoughts about how this progression continues |
| 16:42.01 | dataw0lf | I'd build your own, very simple framework, then compare it to other frameworks to see what you can learn. |
| 16:42.10 | mgeary | i've built my own, or am in the process |
| 16:42.10 | dataw0lf | I'd also dive into a variety of other languages |
| 16:42.18 | mgeary | yeah, doing the django thing. |
| 16:42.24 | dataw0lf | beyond web dev. |
| 16:42.27 | dataw0lf | learn C |
| 16:42.31 | mgeary | nooooooooooo |
| 16:42.35 | mgeary | ;) |
| 16:42.40 | Lone_Wanderer | Why not? You already practically know it. |
| 16:42.49 | dataw0lf | except for pointers |
| 16:42.52 | mgeary | exactly |
| 16:42.56 | dataw0lf | and all other memory handling |
| 16:42.59 | Lone_Wanderer | Yeah but pointers are easy. |
| 16:43.00 | dataw0lf | which is really what C is |
| 16:43.02 | dataw0lf | psh |
| 16:43.07 | Lone_Wanderer | So is memory handling. Just be careful. |
| 16:43.09 | dataw0lf | memory management be not easy |
| 16:43.20 | Lone_Wanderer | I never had a problem with it. |
| 16:43.32 | Lone_Wanderer | Then again all I ever wrote in C was my college homework assignments. |
| 16:43.39 | dataw0lf | learning the basics is easy, learning how to do it correctly is hard |
| 16:44.19 | mgeary | so, you're implying that framework usage is the pinnacle of Web Development...? :) |
| 16:44.39 | Lone_Wanderer | I think the pinnacle of web development is the same as it is for any kind of programming |
| 16:45.10 | Lone_Wanderer | specifically, a kind of Zen-like state where you use no frameworks, no objects, no functions, and (at best) no code at all |
| 16:45.18 | mgeary | heheh |
| 16:45.36 | Lone_Wanderer | Seriously. If you can create an entire site without writing a single line of code, you're awesome. |
| 16:47.19 | Lone_Wanderer | http://catb.org/~esr/writings/unix-koans/ |
| 16:47.24 | mgeary | but dataw0lf, i agree with you that gleaning things from other frameworks has been a very profitable exercise |
| 16:47.51 | mgeary | actually, my first dance with django a year or two ago is what enamored me of the Active Record pattern |
| 16:47.53 | thebigdog | mgeary...the best thing i can tell you is that you should learn additional langs and also learn sysadmin skills...the best programmers i have seen are sysadmins |
| 16:49.06 | dataw0lf | it certainly helps in a lot of respects. |
| 16:49.12 | dataw0lf | Learning the ins and outs of at least HTTP |
| 16:49.28 | thebigdog | yeah networking skills are great |
| 16:49.30 | dataw0lf | TCP/IP black magic is a great building block too. |
| 16:49.34 | dataw0lf | yar |
| 16:49.35 | thebigdog | when i worked for enterasys i learned tons |
| 17:26.07 | Lone_Wanderer | PoeticIntensity: Can you give me, again, the address to meet at tomorrow? |
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| 17:33.22 | timinator | mawnin' |
| 17:34.20 | dataw0lf | rawr |
| 17:34.35 | dataw0lf | [subtitle] : "Morning!" |
| 17:43.56 | thebigdog | +1centillion |
| 17:44.07 | thebigdog | +1centillion lvm2 |
| 17:51.47 | PoeticIntensity | Sure... |
| 17:51.53 | PoeticIntensity | 7:45am Tomorrow morning. |
| 17:51.56 | PoeticIntensity | 500 South 500 West |
| 17:52.02 | PoeticIntensity | NorthWest Corner. |
| 17:52.11 | PoeticIntensity | parking lot of a big light blue building. |
| 17:52.17 | PoeticIntensity | name of the building is CG Sparks |
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| 18:01.54 | thebigdog | ~thebigdog++ |
| 18:02.22 | thebigdog | ~dataw0lf++ |
| 18:02.28 | thebigdog | ~dataw0lf |
| 18:02.30 | jbot | somebody said dataw0lf was sleeping again, or da supahstah, or a dink, or #utah's number one troll, or known by his full title: dataw0lf, Destroyer of Newbies, Troll of the Seas of IRC, God of All that is Technical, etc, etc, or a lamer as per "~nickometer dataw0lf", or stderr, or a guy who needs to control his temper, or needs to release his anger, or a flying ... |
| 18:02.39 | thebigdog | ~karma dataw0lf |
| 18:02.39 | jbot | dataw0lf has karma of 5 |
| 18:02.44 | thebigdog | ~dataw0lf++ |
| 18:02.57 | thebigdog | ~karma dataw0lf |
| 18:02.57 | jbot | dataw0lf has karma of 6 |
| 18:03.04 | thebigdog | clear |
| 18:05.33 | Lone_Wanderer | PoeticIntensity: You need to talk Beandog into going. He said he's "thinking about it". |
| 18:05.41 | mindjuju | ~rlart |
| 18:06.14 | mindjuju | hey, thebigdog |
| 18:06.21 | thebigdog | y |
| 18:06.44 | mindjuju | i was going to send this to you and beandog, |
| 18:06.45 | mindjuju | http://assente.altervista.org/top_10_best_linux_dvd_ripping_and_encoding_software/ |
| 18:07.12 | mindjuju | beandog did say that he didn't know some, and disagreed about lemonrip being good |
| 18:07.25 | thebigdog | nice ty |
| 18:07.32 | mindjuju | fo sho |
| 18:07.36 | thebigdog | acidrip is good too on linux |
| 18:07.46 | thebigdog | it creates a script for ya too that you can save and use |
| 18:08.33 | mindjuju | i'm actually to the point where I'm going to try autogk one more time and if it doesn't work, i'll build a box with linux and use one of these just to rip my library |
| 18:09.00 | mindjuju | though utah_dave mentioned dvd shrink as being good, haven't tried that one |
| 18:09.00 | thebigdog | that is what i did |
| 18:09.14 | thebigdog | i have a dedicated linux box that rips all the time |
| 18:09.24 | mindjuju | that's exactly what i want |
| 18:09.26 | thebigdog | drip uses it all the time |
| 18:09.36 | thebigdog | yeah i did a very small gentoo install on a box |
| 18:09.47 | thebigdog | and that was it...so it uses alot of cpu for processing |
| 18:09.49 | mindjuju | what are the stats on the box |
| 18:10.08 | thebigdog | it is pust a p4 2.56G with 512 ram |
| 18:10.25 | mindjuju | sounds reasonable |
| 18:10.26 | thebigdog | but since the os is so small only mencoder is really running |
| 18:10.46 | thebigdog | if you had a dual cpu box or one with dual core it would smoke |
| 18:11.03 | thebigdog | but i dont see spend that kinda money for a ripping box |
| 18:20.04 | Lone_Wanderer | macnewbold just gave me a green and white striped hat. |
| 18:20.07 | Lone_Wanderer | I am now a leprechaun. |
| 18:20.37 | Lone_Wanderer | My MONITOR is now a leprechaun. |
| 18:27.30 | macnewbold | ~wiki clurichaun |
| 18:27.59 | macnewbold | wow, ya learn something new every day |
| 18:35.44 | PoeticIntensity | Lone_Wanderer: I know.... Something is up with beandog lately... I'm not sure what's up... |
| 18:35.51 | PoeticIntensity | but I'll do everything I can to get him to come. |
| 18:36.08 | PoeticIntensity | he was the only one with me on our last (first) trip. |
| 18:36.10 | PoeticIntensity | he had a blast. |
| 18:36.16 | PoeticIntensity | couldn't stop talking about it for weeks. |
| 18:36.20 | PoeticIntensity | I'm not sure why he's waffling about it now. |
| 18:36.41 | PoeticIntensity | yeah... it won't be near as fun without him. |
| 18:37.37 | PoeticIntensity | is it just me, or does today not feel like Friday? |
| 18:37.47 | PoeticIntensity | ~karma PoeticIntensity |
| 18:37.47 | jbot | poeticintensity has neutral karma |
| 18:40.42 | Lone_Wanderer | Today feels like Friday to me. Then again I just got paid, *and* handed a leprechaun hat. |
| 18:41.08 | Lone_Wanderer | Also I just laughed at something and it made me very dizzy. Which is, to say the least, disturbing. |
| 18:44.05 | thebigdog | when tunafart timinator does that stuff it will kill ya |
| 18:45.28 | timinator | fo sho |
| 19:07.37 | PoeticIntensity | Lol |
| 19:07.53 | PoeticIntensity | who here works together?.... like... works in the same place of employment? |
| 19:07.54 | PoeticIntensity | anyone? |
| 19:08.18 | PoeticIntensity | I know dataw0lf is off in Timbuktu, but what about everyone else? |
| 19:08.30 | PoeticIntensity | ~tunafart Lone_Wanderer |
| 19:08.44 | PoeticIntensity | ~lart Lone_Wanderer |
| 19:08.55 | PoeticIntensity | ~rlart |
| 19:09.05 | PoeticIntensity | ~rlart |
| 19:09.24 | PoeticIntensity | ~rlart |
| 19:10.14 | PoeticIntensity | ~rlart |
| 19:10.27 | PoeticIntensity | ~rlart |
| 19:10.38 | timinator | ~lart PoeticIntensity |
| 19:10.46 | PoeticIntensity | ~rlart |
| 19:11.18 | PoeticIntensity | ~jbot: PoeticIntensity is also bored out of his freakin' mind. |
| 19:11.18 | jbot | okay, PoeticIntensity |
| 19:11.24 | PoeticIntensity | ~PoeticIntensity |
| 19:11.24 | jbot | [poeticintensity] a swirling vat of orange juice, or new to the UPHPU channel, but pretty funny, or a beef-wheet, or drives a yellow mustang, or queen of the chick flick, or bored out of his freakin' mind. |
| 19:11.55 | PoeticIntensity | ~timinator |
| 19:11.55 | jbot | i guess timinator is the person formally known as timothy_, or owns his own business, or likes to wear a stetson and chaps with nothing else on! |
| 19:12.07 | PoeticIntensity | LOL |
| 19:12.14 | PoeticIntensity | ~rlart |
| 19:12.57 | timinator | LMAO |
| 19:13.04 | PoeticIntensity | ~jbot: help |
| 19:25.46 | PoeticIntensity | zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz |
| 19:26.02 | PoeticIntensity | ~jbot |
| 19:26.03 | jbot | jbot is, like, only marginally useful at best, He got a C- on his Turing Test, or dating the fembots, or a potty mouth, or some dimwit who learns crud. |
| 19:27.20 | PoeticIntensity | ~macnewbold |
| 19:27.21 | jbot | methinks macnewbold is unavailable |
| 19:27.37 | PoeticIntensity | ~lart macnewbold |
| 19:37.30 | macnewbold | I'm here |
| 19:37.31 | macnewbold | sup |
| 19:37.44 | macnewbold | I'm coming saturday, and it looks like the fam will be coming too |
| 19:39.10 | thebigdog | what is saturday? |
| 19:39.55 | macnewbold | race day out at the salt flats |
| 19:40.16 | mgeary | well, yeah, if you're *boring* |
| 19:40.18 | thebigdog | macnewbold, you are racing the rice burner? |
| 19:40.45 | macnewbold | my wife was wondering if there's anyplace decent to set up some chairs for her and the kids so they didn't have to ride in the car the whole time (in case she or they get scared or something) |
| 19:40.47 | mgeary | for happenin' people, Saturday is the day to have St. Patrick Day parties for 6-year-olds |
| 19:40.52 | macnewbold | thebigdog: rice burner... ha |
| 19:41.27 | thebigdog | maybe i should hit the planterium with the kiddies |
| 19:45.16 | Utah_Dave | later guys |
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| 19:53.17 | Lone_Wanderer | PoeticIntensity: me, mac and beandog all work together |
| 19:53.55 | PoeticIntensity | ahhh... |
| 19:53.57 | PoeticIntensity | ah see. |
| 19:57.37 | mgeary | xdebug++ |
| 20:04.35 | macnewbold | dragonleech comes in here sometimes too, he's also a coworker |
| 20:10.13 | Lone_Wanderer | oh, Jason? |
| 20:10.15 | Lone_Wanderer | He never talks :( |
| 20:12.07 | thebigdog | lol |
| 20:12.30 | thebigdog | half these people i dont even know |
| 20:12.39 | thebigdog | but i guess if i attending the meetings i might |
| 20:13.07 | macnewbold | yeah, he doesn't say much in IRC - he only tried it because he felt left out when beandog and I (sitting in the same room as him) would both laugh at some joke in IRC |
| 20:13.09 | thebigdog | man i told a coworker how to create his own local db with pgsql and he started laughing... |
| 20:13.37 | thebigdog | i asked what are you laughing about and he said he had no idea what i was talking about and that i needed to slow dow |
| 20:14.23 | macnewbold | hehe |
| 20:14.47 | thebigdog | the joys of development |
| 20:15.19 | thebigdog | man sometimes i hate explaining things to people...cause they dont understand and probably never will |
| 20:19.14 | mgeary | yeah, i started explaining the whole Registrar->Name Server->DNS thing to a cust. service rep at a company we work with yesterday, and then i thought to myself, "what i am doing??!" |
| 20:19.33 | mgeary | and i wrapped it up reeeal quick-like |
| 20:19.33 | macnewbold | hehe |
| 20:19.36 | thebigdog | yeah that sucks |
| 20:20.32 | thebigdog | my boss now tells me that if people come and ask me questions that they have to be approved by him...cause they cant handle the TRUTH |
| 20:21.07 | Lone_Wanderer | sweet |
| 20:21.35 | Lone_Wanderer | I had a tech support agent once tell me that their nameservers don't have an IP address |
| 20:21.48 | Lone_Wanderer | because they assigned IPs to their customers via DHCP |
| 20:21.50 | thebigdog | roflol |
| 20:21.53 | mgeary | hahahahaah |
| 20:22.06 | Lone_Wanderer | or rather, that the IP of their name servers wasn't static |
| 20:27.18 | thebigdog | thats causes its a nameserver |
| 20:29.47 | Lone_Wanderer | How can a nameserver not have a static IP? |
| 20:37.30 | thebigdog | lol |
| 20:37.39 | macnewbold | hehe |
| 20:37.40 | thebigdog | anyone use a javascript debugger for IE? |
| 20:37.56 | macnewbold | firebug like can do it, thebigdog |
| 20:38.13 | thebigdog | not for ie i dont think |
| 20:48.18 | thebigdog | i found it |
| 20:49.27 | macnewbold | sorry, typo - firebug lite |
| 20:49.41 | macnewbold | they have a specific MSIE-compatible Javascript-only debugger |
| 20:49.47 | thebigdog | oh |
| 20:49.51 | macnewbold | for the browser that can't install the toolbar |
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| 20:57.24 | Lone_Wanderer | ohhh, gwar |
| 21:16.29 | mindjuju | gwar? |
| 21:16.34 | mindjuju | is that a typo? |
| 21:16.39 | thebigdog | oh no |
| 21:16.44 | mgeary | yes |
| 21:16.47 | mgeary | it's supposed to be |
| 21:16.50 | mgeary | gwär |
| 21:16.55 | mgeary | ;) |
| 21:16.58 | mindjuju | gwar = sux ? |
| 21:17.22 | thebigdog | ~wiki gwar |
| 21:17.32 | thebigdog | http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/b/b4/GWAR-beyond_hell-.jpg/220px-GWAR-beyond_hell-.jpg |
| 21:17.50 | PoeticIntensity | gwar..... |
| 21:18.03 | mgeary | so redeeming... |
| 21:18.16 | PoeticIntensity | I listened to *one* of their songs.... |
| 21:18.28 | PoeticIntensity | my virgin ears... |
| 21:18.29 | PoeticIntensity | :) |
| 21:18.34 | thebigdog | mindjuju, you would love techno desctructo |
| 21:18.35 | mgeary | seriously |
| 21:19.25 | mindjuju | techno destructo ? |
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| 21:19.38 | thebigdog | he is a guy in gwar |
| 21:20.04 | thebigdog | http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/9f/Sickofyou.ogg |
| 21:20.24 | thebigdog | great song |
| 21:20.39 | thebigdog | http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/4f/Saddamagogo.ogg |
| 21:21.11 | mindjuju | Next on Fox... Halloween costumes gone bad! |
| 21:21.11 | mindjuju | http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b4/GWAR-beyond_hell-.jpg |
| 21:21.39 | thebigdog | too bad no video |
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| 21:57.56 | wps | mindjuju: what were you going to present on? |
| 21:58.20 | mindjuju | dojo is what i'm thinking right now |
| 21:58.42 | wps | k |
| 21:58.42 | wps | thanks |
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| 22:12.16 | _psychic_ | ~cookie |
| 22:12.19 | _psychic_ | ~rlart |
| 22:12.22 | Lone_Wanderer | Oh joy, mheath is complaining again. |
| 22:22.10 | thebigdog | in plug? |
| 22:22.15 | mindjuju | ugh, i shouldn't have listened to the monty python album the other day, can't get the songs out of my head |
| 22:29.09 | mindjuju | ~tunafart macnewbold |
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| 22:30.39 | mindjuju | dag nab jbot |
| 22:30.39 | PoeticIntensity | yeah... I tried that earlier today, too... |
| 22:30.40 | PoeticIntensity | no workie. |
| 22:30.40 | mindjuju | ~crackskulls _psychic_ |
| 22:30.47 | PoeticIntensity | Hiya, beandog! |
| 22:30.52 | PoeticIntensity | it's about time you joined us.... :) |
| 22:30.57 | beandog | meh |
| 22:30.59 | Lone_Wanderer | Ha! The trap has been sprung! |
| 22:30.59 | PoeticIntensity | moo |
| 22:31.13 | PoeticIntensity | we need to go buy beandog a round of spritzers. |
| 22:31.19 | PoeticIntensity | ~happy beandog |
| 22:31.24 | PoeticIntensity | ~medicate beandog |
| 22:31.27 | beandog | ~birthday beandog |
| 22:31.31 | PoeticIntensity | there ya go |
| 22:31.38 | PoeticIntensity | when is your b-day? |
| 22:31.43 | beandog | Tuesday |
| 22:31.49 | PoeticIntensity | well HECK! |
| 22:31.50 | mindjuju | cool |
| 22:31.57 | PoeticIntensity | quite. |
| 22:32.00 | PoeticIntensity | what ya want? |
| 22:32.01 | mindjuju | how old will you be, beandog ? |
| 22:32.12 | beandog | mindjuju: 31 .... eek |
| 22:32.17 | thebigdog | lol |
| 22:32.18 | beandog | amazon gift certificates :D |
| 22:32.20 | PoeticIntensity | eek, my pants. |
| 22:32.20 | thebigdog | beandog, is old |
| 22:32.22 | PoeticIntensity | I'm 31. |
| 22:32.27 | mindjuju | yeah, i'll be 34 in June |
| 22:32.32 | Lone_Wanderer | I'm only 28 and I feel old :( |
| 22:32.33 | PoeticIntensity | there ya go |
| 22:32.37 | PoeticIntensity | you're hurtin'. |
| 22:32.44 | beandog | good thing I look young and sexy |
| 22:32.45 | PoeticIntensity | you're only old if you *feel* old. |
| 22:32.46 | PoeticIntensity | har har har |
| 22:33.38 | mindjuju | i don't mind feeling old, it the dementia that scares me |
| 22:33.46 | Lone_Wanderer | Unless you're older than 8. Then you're just old, period. |
| 22:34.11 | PoeticIntensity | nope. |
| 22:34.16 | mindjuju | well, i take that back. I'm not sure what's worse, dementia or loss of bodily control |
| 22:34.24 | PoeticIntensity | I'm older than eight, and...... I refuse to believe even for a short second that I'm getting older. |
| 22:34.26 | mindjuju | i'm going to have to say bodily control |
| 22:34.28 | PoeticIntensity | wait... |
| 22:34.33 | thebigdog | ~tunafart mindjuju |
| 22:34.41 | PoeticIntensity | it's broken. :-( |
| 22:34.44 | mindjuju | jbot is still broken thebigdog |
| 22:34.52 | Lone_Wanderer | Older than 80 is what I meant. |
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| 22:35.05 | mindjuju | well, with dementia, your crazy and you prolly don't really know it |
| 22:35.09 | Lone_Wanderer | Dementia for me. |
| 22:35.10 | PoeticIntensity | bingo |
| 22:35.11 | PoeticIntensity | me too |
| 22:35.12 | mindjuju | but with bodily control... |
| 22:35.15 | thebigdog | ~tunafart mindjuju |
| 22:35.27 | Lone_Wanderer | I can wear diapers just fine, but if I can't plug my brain into a computer and think my way around the internet from dimentia... |
| 22:36.28 | mindjuju | well, think about it though, Lone_Wanderer, your sitting there, writting some crazy app with uber cool functionality, and you got a full load in your grampers and your feeling kinda gusihy |
| 22:36.37 | mindjuju | nah, i think i'd go with dementia |
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| 22:54.51 | macnewbold | ~yow |
| 22:55.26 | thebigdog | y |
| 22:57.10 | beandog | mindjuju: http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/743/539630763l3od.jpg |
| 23:00.23 | Lone_Wanderer | That is so beautiful. |
| 23:00.23 | Lone_Wanderer | I want it on a t-shirt. |
| 23:00.45 | Lone_Wanderer | With "Do you have Chuck Norris in your heart?" |
| 23:01.51 | beandog | ~chuck |
| 23:01.52 | jbot | hmm... chuck is the freebsd daemon |
| 23:01.57 | beandog | ~chucknorris |
| 23:01.58 | jbot | Chuck Norris moves at two speeds: Walk and kill. |
| 23:02.02 | beandog | hee hee hee |
| 23:02.04 | beandog | thats my favorite. |
| 23:02.04 | beandog | :D |
| 23:03.02 | Lone_Wanderer | That's a good one. |
| 23:05.55 | Lone_Wanderer | Woah buddy. |
| 23:06.01 | Lone_Wanderer | Beandog, take a look at this picture |
| 23:06.03 | Lone_Wanderer | http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=2256&id=504882299 |
| 23:06.15 | beandog | bah, gotta login. |
| 23:07.13 | Lone_Wanderer | try http://photos-256.ak.facebook.com/ip002/v51/6/72/504882299/n504882299_2256_7083.jpg |
| 23:08.24 | Lone_Wanderer | Look, and then tell me whether he and I look somewhat alike. |
| 23:08.43 | beandog | yah you do |
| 23:08.49 | Utah_Dave | Hey, guys. Can a 32 bit OS like Fedora or Ubuntu or CentOS use 4 gigs of ram? |
| 23:08.51 | Lone_Wanderer | I knew it! She was lying all along! |
| 23:08.56 | Lone_Wanderer | Utah_Dave: yes |
| 23:09.10 | beandog | depends on your kernel config |
| 23:09.13 | Lone_Wanderer | 4 gigs is the upper limit. A 62 bit system can address something like 16 terrabytes. |
| 23:09.20 | Lone_Wanderer | Well, a 32 bit processor can :p |
| 23:09.31 | Utah_Dave | Ok, cool. I wasn't sure if the limit was 2 gigs or 4 gigs |
| 23:09.35 | Utah_Dave | thanks, Lone_Wanderer |
| 23:10.28 | mindjuju | ~chuckfact |
| 23:10.31 | jbot | chuckfact is, like, Chuck Norris uses Tabasco Sauce for eye drops |
| 23:10.45 | beandog | heh |
| 23:10.47 | beandog | :) |
| 23:10.53 | Utah_Dave | Lone_Wanderer++ |
| 23:10.55 | mindjuju | my favorite, is about the deck of cards |
| 23:10.59 | mindjuju | ~chuckfact |
| 23:11.00 | jbot | rumour has it, chuckfact is When the Boogeyman goes to sleep every night, he checks his closet for Chuck Norris |
| 23:11.07 | mindjuju | nah, that's not it |
| 23:11.10 | mindjuju | ~chuckfact |
| 23:11.11 | jbot | [chuckfact] Chuck Norris uses Tabasco Sauce for eye drops |
| 23:11.26 | mindjuju | ~chuckfact |
| 23:11.27 | jbot | [chuckfact] There is no chin under Chuck Norris Beard. There is only another fist |
| 23:11.48 | mindjuju | bummer, well, it's in there somewhere |
| 23:13.05 | Lone_Wanderer | okbye |
| 23:15.02 | *** part/#uphpu mgeary (n=mgeary@166.70.44.49) |
| 23:18.36 | mindjuju | ~lart chuck berry |
| 23:23.44 | Utah_Dave | ~chuckfart |
| 23:23.56 | Utah_Dave | :) aww, didn't work |
| 23:25.28 | Utah_Dave | later guys! Have a good weekend. |
| 23:25.31 | *** part/#uphpu Utah_Dave (n=boucha@c-67-182-239-240.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) |
| 23:56.12 | mindjuju | jbot ranq is <action> (get in the flask!|Shop smart. Shop S-Mart.|One cannot be betrayed if one has no people.|Life is pain, princess,anyone who says differently is selling something|Excuse me I'm looking for the nuclear wessels|Say hello to my little friend|My precious|Carpe diem. Seize the day, boys. Make your lives extraordinary.) |
| 23:56.16 | jbot | mindjuju: okay |
| 23:56.22 | mindjuju | ~ranq |
| 23:56.23 | jbot | ACTION Life is pain, princess,anyone who says differently is selling something |
| 23:56.40 | mindjuju | ~ranq |
| 23:56.41 | jbot | ACTION Shop smart. Shop S-Mart. |
