| 00:00.13 | dataw0lf | nah |
| 00:00.16 | dataw0lf | I don't think |
| 00:00.19 | Lone_Wanderer | k |
| 00:00.25 | Lone_Wanderer | oh no he did NOT invoke WWII |
| 00:00.39 | dataw0lf | yea, see, I'm setting him up by saying 'dude, why don't YOU join?' |
| 00:00.44 | dataw0lf | because he's in high school |
| 00:00.49 | Lone_Wanderer | So? |
| 00:00.52 | dataw0lf | and he'll be all like 'dude, I'm in high school' |
| 00:00.54 | Lone_Wanderer | If you're 16 you can enlist with parent's permission. |
| 00:00.59 | dataw0lf | and I'll be like TRAP SPRUNG! |
| 00:01.11 | dataw0lf | kids were signing up when they were 15 and 16 in WW2 kid |
| 00:01.23 | dataw0lf | so man up |
| 00:01.23 | Lone_Wanderer | An actual sprung-ing sound will emanate from The Internet when he clicks post. |
| 00:01.30 | dataw0lf | put up or shut up that's what I say |
| 00:01.51 | dataw0lf | it'll be an irony trap with a DC of 30 to avoid |
| 00:01.56 | dataw0lf | sorry, bad D&D reference |
| 00:02.11 | Lone_Wanderer | Iron jaws? No, *irony* jaws. |
| 00:02.15 | dataw0lf | ha! |
| 00:03.45 | Lone_Wanderer | I always feel like Tycho when I pull something like that. |
| 00:03.55 | dataw0lf | hehe |
| 00:03.57 | Lone_Wanderer | I have an English-crush on Tycho. |
| 00:04.06 | Lone_Wanderer | I haven't read it in ages :( |
| 00:04.31 | Lone_Wanderer | Stupid girlfriend taking all my non-work time. I haven't even had time to properly play WoW in weeks! |
| 00:04.54 | mindjuju | a friend of mine just gave me a 10 day pass for WoW |
| 00:04.57 | dataw0lf | I didn't know you had a gf nowadays |
| 00:05.00 | mindjuju | wife isn't happy about it |
| 00:05.04 | Lone_Wanderer | I do. |
| 00:05.13 | dataw0lf | good for you |
| 00:05.16 | Lone_Wanderer | Remember the girl you said liked me? It's not her but we're still friends. |
| 00:05.16 | dataw0lf | welcome to HELL ON EARTH |
| 00:05.18 | dataw0lf | muhahahahaha! |
| 00:05.22 | Lone_Wanderer | No kidding. |
| 00:05.49 | dataw0lf | I go through girls like a fat kid with cupcakes; I still maintain it isn't my fault, however. |
| 00:06.05 | Lone_Wanderer | But, the girl who you said liked me. She's been dating this guy who ignores her all the time. Now he wants to get engaged and she's all giddy and excited. |
| 00:06.13 | dataw0lf | dude |
| 00:06.17 | dataw0lf | you can't let it happen |
| 00:06.20 | Lone_Wanderer | I know. |
| 00:06.40 | Lone_Wanderer | Do you know any navy seals? He lives in Texas and likes to kayak a lot. |
| 00:06.46 | Lone_Wanderer | I figure an accident should be easy to arrange. |
| 00:07.04 | Lone_Wanderer | (Yes, he lives in Texas and she lives here. Guess who never pays for her to fly down there?) |
| 00:08.03 | mindjuju | sounds like a bum |
| 00:08.23 | synic | I noticed that mindjuju also likes to yak a lot |
| 00:08.30 | synic | like... close to the too much area. |
| 00:08.40 | Lone_Wanderer | I only provide the facts. You must draw your own conclusions. |
| 00:09.04 | Lone_Wanderer | s/facts/facts which support my opinion |
| 00:09.08 | synic | :P |
| 00:10.03 | Lone_Wanderer | dataw0lf: are you sure you know what it means to "take homage"? |
| 00:16.32 | dataw0lf | 1) I don't know any SEALs that I keep in contact with regularly |
| 00:16.42 | dataw0lf | 2) Yes, I know exactly what "take homage" means |
| 00:16.54 | Lone_Wanderer | I've never heard it used that way. |
| 00:17.14 | macnewbold | taking it would be a little different than paying it or giving it I'd guess |
| 00:26.06 | dataw0lf | synic: I love snowboarding |
| 00:26.22 | dataw0lf | you get to go at breakneck speeds down hills and try to do crazy tricks |
| 00:26.27 | dataw0lf | and you get really warm in the process |
| 00:26.31 | dataw0lf | so I don't even mind the snow! |
| 00:26.44 | dataw0lf | warm and/or numb |
| 00:26.47 | dataw0lf | due to various injuries |
| 00:26.53 | Lone_Wanderer | I've never tried it. |
| 00:26.58 | dataw0lf | my butt is bruised to a dark purplish color |
| 00:27.02 | Lone_Wanderer | Well, I did once in high school, and I fell down a lot. |
| 00:27.10 | dataw0lf | I've been skateboarding forever |
| 00:27.18 | dataw0lf | and I refused to go boarding with synic because of the snow |
| 00:27.21 | dataw0lf | however |
| 00:27.37 | dataw0lf | I've learned the art of layers over the past several months |
| 00:29.19 | *** join/#uphpu mgeary (n=mgeary@166.70.44.49) |
| 00:29.32 | Lone_Wanderer | dude, you grew up in Chicago and you don't know how to deal with snow? |
| 00:29.41 | Lone_Wanderer | were you confined to urban residence (CUR) or something? |
| 00:29.43 | dataw0lf | I know how to deal with it |
| 00:29.47 | dataw0lf | I just don't LIKE it |
| 00:29.53 | Lone_Wanderer | ahhh |
| 00:29.56 | dataw0lf | coming from Chicago, with the amount of snow we get |
| 00:30.00 | dataw0lf | well, it'll turn anyone off |
| 00:30.05 | Lone_Wanderer | but you said that you've learned the art of layers... |
| 00:30.25 | mgeary | hey all |
| 00:30.25 | Lone_Wanderer | which was drilled into me from the time I was little |
| 00:30.28 | Lone_Wanderer | hiya mgeary |
| 00:30.38 | dataw0lf | the art of layers when rolling / falling / diving into snow |
| 00:30.50 | mgeary | is anyone here interested in an x-cart gig? someone's asked me and i'm too busy |
| 00:30.50 | Lone_Wanderer | Oh, I don't know that art. |
| 00:30.52 | dataw0lf | which happens quite a bit nowadays since I'm trying to get 30 / 40 foot distance on jumps |
| 00:31.12 | mgeary | if you don't have x-cart skillz, knowledge of OOP and Smarty would probably get you where you needed to be |
| 00:31.15 | Lone_Wanderer | I thought you just meant wearing them. I was going to go "Duh, obvious." |
| 00:31.59 | mindjuju | i'm actually a really good snowboarder. dan do 720 loops, i get tons of air and have competed in competitions |
| 00:32.43 | mindjuju | yup, ssx tricky rox |
| 00:32.55 | Lone_Wanderer | The Beauty Never Stops: http://www.flickr.com/photos/thegeneralx/317473065/ |
| 00:33.43 | mindjuju | lone_wanderer , whats up with that italian guy saying she's pretty? |
| 00:33.49 | mindjuju | that seems a little creepy |
| 00:33.51 | Lone_Wanderer | I dunno. |
| 00:33.55 | Lone_Wanderer | It happens all the time. |
| 00:34.13 | mindjuju | creepy! |
| 00:34.25 | mindjuju | who is she? kin of yours? |
| 00:34.35 | Lone_Wanderer | Only in the sense that we're both from Minnesota. |
| 00:34.41 | mgeary | sooooo, no takers on the x-cart gig? |
| 00:35.47 | mindjuju | mgeary , you ought to post to the list |
| 00:36.05 | mindjuju | somebody came to last meet with a job offer and like 5 people were interested |
| 00:36.15 | dataw0lf | Lone_Wanderer: who's that? |
| 00:36.32 | Lone_Wanderer | The sister of a girl I know in Minnesota. |
| 00:36.35 | dataw0lf | I don't believe there's a pretty girl from Minnesota! |
| 00:36.45 | dataw0lf | hm, looks a little young |
| 00:36.47 | Lone_Wanderer | You've clearly never been there for any amount of time. |
| 00:36.50 | Lone_Wanderer | She was when it was taken. |
| 00:38.09 | Lone_Wanderer | And MN is full of pretty girls. It's just hard to tell because they can only take off their parkas for a couple hours each year |
| 00:38.29 | Lone_Wanderer | those hours between when the snow melts and it hits 110 degrees and 99% humidity |
| 00:38.35 | Lone_Wanderer | and when it all freezes again |
| 00:38.36 | dataw0lf | I've been to Minnesota plenty |
| 00:38.37 | dataw0lf | Perhaps it's the multiple layers of clothes they wear that I cannot distinguish a pretty girl from a hobbit |
| 00:38.37 | dataw0lf | because, I think people from Minnesota are the American equivalent to hobbits |
| 00:38.37 | mgeary | Layton? the group meets in Layton? Jeeze, is that really the center of gravity for the group? |
| 00:38.37 | mgeary | or is that just last meeting? |
| 00:38.43 | dataw0lf | I think the center of gravity is more towards South Salt Lake |
| 00:38.59 | Lone_Wanderer | yeah, it's just the layers. |
| 00:39.10 | Lone_Wanderer | You've got to be there around September 15th. |
| 00:39.23 | Lone_Wanderer | That's usually when the snow melts and the sun comes out for a little while. |
| 00:39.24 | dataw0lf | I drove up there a couple times during the fall |
| 00:39.31 | Lone_Wanderer | where'd you go? |
| 00:39.33 | dataw0lf | buncha hobbits |
| 00:39.35 | dataw0lf | Minneapolis |
| 00:39.45 | Lone_Wanderer | what part? :p |
| 00:39.56 | dataw0lf | crikey, I dunno |
| 00:40.02 | Lone_Wanderer | Well, what'd you do? |
| 00:40.07 | dataw0lf | got drunk |
| 00:40.10 | Lone_Wanderer | Oh. |
| 00:40.16 | dataw0lf | with a bunch of norwegians |
| 00:40.18 | dataw0lf | and hobbits |
| 00:40.24 | Lone_Wanderer | Of course. |
| 00:40.28 | dataw0lf | rite. |
| 00:40.32 | Lone_Wanderer | That's all they've got there is Norwegians and hobbits. |
| 00:40.40 | Lone_Wanderer | Only the hobbits are called "Hmong". |
| 00:40.51 | dataw0lf | you want to see hot women, you gotta go to Chicago. |
| 00:40.58 | dataw0lf | downtown or north side |
| 00:41.07 | macnewbold | yeah, there are some even prettier than dataw0lf |
| 00:41.11 | dataw0lf | well |
| 00:41.14 | dataw0lf | I wouldn't go that far |
| 00:41.25 | dataw0lf | but they're pretty hot all the same |
| 00:41.30 | macnewbold | in fact, I'm heading to chicago in May, taking my own hot woman though. |
| 00:41.42 | dataw0lf | carry-on? |
| 00:41.45 | macnewbold | what sites or sights would you recommend we check out? |
| 00:41.51 | macnewbold | no, passenger sitting next to me |
| 00:41.51 | dataw0lf | didn't I send you a list? |
| 00:41.57 | macnewbold | ah, maybe so :) |
| 00:41.59 | macnewbold | it's been a while |
| 00:42.02 | dataw0lf | ya |
| 00:42.05 | macnewbold | and the trip is months away still |
| 00:42.12 | dataw0lf | if you can't find it let me know and I'll compile it again |
| 00:42.16 | dataw0lf | definitely hit up the museums |
| 00:42.29 | dataw0lf | obviously, the field museum is a must |
| 00:42.42 | dataw0lf | check out the shedd aquarium too |
| 00:43.28 | Lone_Wanderer | Hmm. |
| 00:43.36 | Lone_Wanderer | How hard is it to unblur parts of a photo? |
| 00:44.11 | dataw0lf | various photo editing softwares have unsharp masks |
| 00:44.11 | macnewbold | hehe |
| 00:44.28 | macnewbold | Lone_Wanderer: it depends on the blurring method used |
| 00:44.46 | macnewbold | if you know what algo they used, you may be able to at least reconstruct what might be possible and what wouldn't be |
| 00:44.55 | macnewbold | though it probably isn't truly reversible |
| 00:45.03 | dataw0lf | depends |
| 00:45.13 | macnewbold | as they've thrown away data in the process, and replaced it with aggregated and combined data from a variety of pixes |
| 00:45.15 | dataw0lf | if it's just photo quality, you can usually unblur it to a fair degree |
| 00:45.19 | macnewbold | s/pixes/pixels/ |
| 00:45.27 | dataw0lf | but if it's technically done, much harder |
| 00:45.40 | dataw0lf | I bet swb would know |
| 00:45.46 | macnewbold | ~summon swb |
| 00:45.55 | jbot | apt takes out 20 clean, identical-looking phones, some extra hands, and pretends to be a telemarketer for a large corporation, so he gets delivered a phonelist containing swb's coordinates |
| 00:45.55 | macnewbold | ~conjure swb |
| 00:45.57 | macnewbold | ~invoke swb |
| 00:46.18 | macnewbold | hm, that was weird |
| 00:46.35 | dataw0lf | jbot, you're broken |
| 00:46.36 | jbot | THERE ARE *FOUR* LIGHTS! |
| 00:46.43 | dataw0lf | exactly. |
| 00:46.47 | macnewbold | hehe |
| 00:46.52 | macnewbold | anyone else know the source of that quote? |
| 00:47.00 | mgeary | Patch Adams? |
| 00:47.03 | macnewbold | nope |
| 00:47.06 | mgeary | no, that was fingers |
| 00:47.08 | dataw0lf | TNG, baby |
| 00:47.08 | macnewbold | anyone else? |
| 00:47.09 | mgeary | not 1984 |
| 00:47.28 | macnewbold | yeah, Jean-Luc Picard being interrogated and tortured by a Cardassian interrogator |
| 00:47.33 | dataw0lf | yar |
| 00:47.34 | mgeary | oh sure |
| 00:47.38 | macnewbold | ~dataw0lf++ |
| 00:47.38 | mgeary | and i'm all thinking Orwell |
| 00:47.45 | dataw0lf | mgeary: pshaw! |
| 00:47.49 | macnewbold | yeah, it's pretty orwell-esque |
| 00:47.51 | mgeary | i'm so highbrow |
| 00:47.52 | dataw0lf | anyone ever seen 1941? :) |
| 00:47.58 | macnewbold | is it like 1984? |
| 00:48.00 | dataw0lf | what's lowbrow about TNG? |
| 00:48.04 | mgeary | not a thing |
| 00:48.05 | macnewbold | nothing |
| 00:48.08 | dataw0lf | macnewbold: naw. spielberg film. |
| 00:48.19 | dataw0lf | these japanese decide to bomb hollywood |
| 00:48.24 | dataw0lf | it's pretty funny stuff |
| 00:48.26 | dataw0lf | slim pickens is in it |
| 00:48.27 | macnewbold | anyone seen "Escape from Sobibor"? |
| 00:48.40 | dataw0lf | can't say that I have. |
| 00:48.53 | mgeary | i've seen Escape from Witch Mountain |
| 00:48.55 | dataw0lf | am I missing out? |
| 00:48.59 | mgeary | or was it TO Witch Mountain...? |
| 00:49.05 | dataw0lf | mgeary: I've READ Escape from Witch Mountain |
| 00:49.05 | mindjuju | there was both |
| 00:49.09 | mgeary | well then |
| 00:49.13 | mindjuju | i've seen Escape from New York |
| 00:49.23 | mindjuju | and Escape from LA, though new york was better |
| 00:49.33 | macnewbold | Escape from Work is what I'd like to see |
| 00:49.34 | dataw0lf | dude, they both have Kurt Russell, can't beat that. |
| 00:49.36 | macnewbold | or re-enact |
| 00:49.52 | dataw0lf | anyone seen John Carpenter's The Thing (with Kurt Russell) |
| 00:49.57 | dataw0lf | scariest movie EVAR! |
| 00:50.37 | mindjuju | i saw edited The Thing, was still scary |
| 00:50.58 | mindjuju | c'mon dataw0lf, you know it's true |
| 00:52.48 | dataw0lf | dude |
| 00:52.54 | dataw0lf | you can't watch an edited version of the Thing |
| 00:52.54 | mindjuju | i'm sayin' |
| 00:52.59 | dataw0lf | dude |
| 00:53.01 | dataw0lf | DUDE |
| 00:53.21 | dataw0lf | alright, that's it, next time I come to SLC, I'm going to beat you at Halo real quick, then we're going to watch an unedited version of The Thing |
| 00:53.36 | dataw0lf | sounds 'bout right |
| 00:53.37 | mindjuju | oh, i know. i plan on watching The Thing someday when it is 12pm straight up and i have the national guard guarding my house for 3 days |
| 00:53.51 | dataw0lf | dude, you don't need the nasty guard |
| 00:54.04 | dataw0lf | a 19D ex active duty soldier will be there with ya, I'll protect you from the mean aliens |
| 00:54.04 | mindjuju | didn't see your comment about you standing guard |
| 00:54.28 | mindjuju | yeah, if your standing guard, i would be safe |
| 00:54.40 | dataw0lf | it IS pretty scary, though. |
| 00:54.41 | mgeary | "Calvary Scout" ? |
| 00:54.44 | dataw0lf | totally about paranoia |
| 00:54.58 | mgeary | http://www.us-army-info.com/pages/mos/armor/19d.html ? |
| 00:55.00 | dataw0lf | mgeary: yes, + Pathfinder school + Air Assault school + etc etc |
| 00:55.10 | dataw0lf | mgeary: search for attack pathfinder, that's the unit I was in. |
| 00:55.25 | dataw0lf | kinda like ranger, but, we're not like, bullet stoppers |
| 00:55.37 | dataw0lf | think ranger recon that calls air support hell upon the enemy |
| 00:56.53 | dataw0lf | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pathfinders_%28military%29 |
| 00:56.55 | dataw0lf | there ya go |
| 00:57.01 | Lone_Wanderer | cavalry |
| 00:57.12 | Lone_Wanderer | calvary is the place Christ was crucified. |
| 00:57.30 | dataw0lf | 1/1 cav, 82nd airborne, and 75th rangers baby |
| 00:58.03 | Lone_Wanderer | is the 101st airborne a special elite unit, or do they just have some fancy history behind them? |
| 00:58.13 | dataw0lf | just special |
| 00:58.23 | dataw0lf | err, just fancy |
| 00:58.30 | dataw0lf | they're an airborne infantry unit |
| 00:58.34 | dataw0lf | for the most part |
| 00:58.38 | Lone_Wanderer | k |
| 00:58.40 | dataw0lf | Screaming Eagles |
| 01:00.03 | dataw0lf | "1-0-1, Scream-ing, Eagles! Pick up your weapons and follow me! Airborne, Infantry!" |
| 01:00.39 | dataw0lf | yea, they're a bunch of wusses |
| 01:01.13 | dataw0lf | wouldn't know how to fast rope if they were attached to the line |
| 01:05.15 | dataw0lf | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/75th_Ranger_Regiment |
| 01:05.18 | dataw0lf | that's where it's at |
| 01:05.21 | dataw0lf | except for all the rangers |
| 01:05.27 | dataw0lf | the bullet stopping wusses |
| 01:05.37 | Lone_Wanderer | DW: Can you put in your warrant officer application to be a heli pilot after going to pathfinder school, or is that too big an investment to let someone switch out of? |
| 01:05.56 | dataw0lf | nah, dude, green to WO is one of the hardest transitions |
| 01:06.08 | dataw0lf | personally, if I were you, and you have a degree, or close to a degree, I'd apply for WO out of the box |
| 01:06.12 | dataw0lf | get it in your contract |
| 01:06.33 | dataw0lf | but definitely go WO > commissioned officer |
| 01:06.37 | dataw0lf | more respect from troops |
| 01:06.40 | dataw0lf | more technical knowledge |
| 01:06.43 | dataw0lf | best pilots in the army |
| 01:07.03 | Lone_Wanderer | You can get guaranteed to be a WO when you enlist? |
| 01:07.15 | dataw0lf | yea |
| 01:07.19 | dataw0lf | it's hard |
| 01:07.20 | Lone_Wanderer | sweet |
| 01:07.24 | dataw0lf | but easier than going from green to WO |
| 01:07.26 | Lone_Wanderer | k |
| 01:07.33 | dataw0lf | I'd start doing physical training |
| 01:07.38 | dataw0lf | most WOs are some big guys |
| 01:07.42 | dataw0lf | like |
| 01:07.51 | Lone_Wanderer | I'm thinking I'll try to get some ground school or possibly even flight time in before I apply for it |
| 01:07.56 | dataw0lf | all of our field commanders in the pathfinders were WO, for the most part |
| 01:07.57 | Lone_Wanderer | apparently that makes it easier |
| 01:08.02 | dataw0lf | like 6'5" guys |
| 01:08.04 | Lone_Wanderer | wow |
| 01:08.08 | dataw0lf | standing while enemy is shoot around em |
| 01:08.17 | Lone_Wanderer | I'm surprised. There's a weight limit for helicopter pilots. |
| 01:08.21 | dataw0lf | yelling in the SINCGARS to get some napalm |
| 01:08.26 | dataw0lf | oh, I'm not talking about heli pilots |
| 01:08.33 | dataw0lf | I'm talking about field operations |
| 01:08.39 | Lone_Wanderer | k |
| 01:09.23 | dataw0lf | just be ready |
| 01:09.26 | dataw0lf | you don't want to be assigned Apache |
| 01:09.31 | dataw0lf | probably die in a training mission |
| 01:09.32 | Lone_Wanderer | Yeah I know. |
| 01:09.37 | Lone_Wanderer | lol, why? |
| 01:09.44 | Lone_Wanderer | I thought they were easy to fly |
| 01:09.46 | dataw0lf | they're always crashing in field ops |
| 01:09.52 | Lone_Wanderer | =\ |
| 01:10.02 | mindjuju | i've flown comanche helicopters |
| 01:10.03 | dataw0lf | in Poland, when we were doing joint international training with spec ops, we had some apaches |
| 01:10.05 | mindjuju | not too shabby |
| 01:10.11 | dataw0lf | some dude plowed into a river |
| 01:10.15 | Lone_Wanderer | O_O |
| 01:10.20 | dataw0lf | pathfinders, of course, were deployed to rescue these guys |
| 01:10.21 | Lone_Wanderer | How much flight time had he had? |
| 01:10.26 | dataw0lf | this was right before Afghani |
| 01:10.32 | dataw0lf | first time I saw a dude cut in half |
| 01:10.37 | Lone_Wanderer | ouch |
| 01:10.40 | dataw0lf | my sergeant went to pull this pilot out |
| 01:10.47 | dataw0lf | and he was still blinking his eyes, so we thought he was ok |
| 01:10.49 | dataw0lf | dude came apart |
| 01:10.55 | dataw0lf | dunno how much flight time he had |
| 01:10.58 | dataw0lf | looked a little younger |
| 01:11.03 | Lone_Wanderer | how'd he get cut in half while still in the cockpit? |
| 01:11.14 | dataw0lf | dude, the apache was in three or four pieces |
| 01:11.18 | Lone_Wanderer | ahh |
| 01:11.18 | dataw0lf | the cockpit was submerged |
| 01:11.24 | dataw0lf | well, half submerged |
| 01:11.33 | dataw0lf | it had collapse on top of him, but we couldn't tell |
| 01:11.46 | dataw0lf | (Apaches have a couple layers; the inner layer imploded) |
| 01:11.51 | Lone_Wanderer | ahh |
| 01:11.59 | Lone_Wanderer | that's weird |
| 01:12.10 | Lone_Wanderer | was that the only training fatality you know of? |
| 01:12.14 | Lone_Wanderer | with an apache anyway |
| 01:12.15 | dataw0lf | nah |
| 01:12.19 | dataw0lf | with an APACHE? |
| 01:12.22 | dataw0lf | haha, no way |
| 01:12.24 | dataw0lf | they're always dying |
| 01:12.29 | dataw0lf | it's kind of a joke in the Army |
| 01:12.30 | Lone_Wanderer | in TRAINING? |
| 01:12.35 | dataw0lf | oh yea. |
| 01:12.47 | Lone_Wanderer | I can see getting shot down in battle since they're gunships, but in training? |
| 01:13.34 | dataw0lf | they're usually trying to avoid Avenger or Patriot fire |
| 01:13.43 | dataw0lf | so they're all trying to be hot stuff and flying low to avoid radar |
| 01:13.53 | Lone_Wanderer | ahh |
| 01:13.54 | dataw0lf | ain't a good idea |
| 01:13.57 | Lone_Wanderer | yeah |
| 01:14.15 | Lone_Wanderer | bravado is never a good idea when you're flying a machine that isn't very safe in the first place |
| 01:14.16 | dataw0lf | the thing is, they're officers, so if they get killed by a patriot unit, they're going to get seriously b*tched out |
| 01:14.29 | dataw0lf | but, I mean, Patriot has like a 99.9% kill ratio on a chopper |
| 01:14.37 | dataw0lf | 99.9% on a fighter jet, I mean, c'mon |
| 01:14.39 | Lone_Wanderer | patriot missile? |
| 01:14.43 | dataw0lf | yea |
| 01:14.51 | dataw0lf | they can hit just about anything out of the sky if they can see it |
| 01:14.53 | Lone_Wanderer | heat seeking? |
| 01:14.57 | dataw0lf | nah, TVM |
| 01:14.59 | dataw0lf | track via missile |
| 01:15.00 | Lone_Wanderer | what's that? |
| 01:15.09 | dataw0lf | the radar tells the missile where the target is, general vincinity ,right? |
| 01:15.13 | dataw0lf | vicinity* |
| 01:15.18 | Lone_Wanderer | you have to illuminate the target with radar first? |
| 01:15.25 | dataw0lf | as soon as it gets in the killzone (depending on the target 5-10-15 miles) |
| 01:15.31 | dataw0lf | the missile goes into TVM |
| 01:15.37 | dataw0lf | there's a little radar on the missile |
| 01:15.45 | dataw0lf | and it's really, really manueverable |
| 01:15.51 | Lone_Wanderer | ahh, cool |
| 01:15.56 | Lone_Wanderer | or not, depending on which end you're on |
| 01:16.08 | dataw0lf | yea, you have to illuminate the target with radar |
| 01:16.14 | mgeary | didja ever hear about BF Skinner's "Project Pigeon" ? |
| 01:16.14 | Lone_Wanderer | so basically if one of those gets within X miles of you, you're dead? |
| 01:16.15 | dataw0lf | but who can avoid a PATRIOT radar? |
| 01:16.16 | dataw0lf | not many |
| 01:16.26 | Lone_Wanderer | Who has patriots? |
| 01:16.27 | dataw0lf | Lone_Wanderer: Oh yea, if they fire a missile, you're basically dead |
| 01:16.35 | mgeary | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Pigeon |
| 01:16.35 | dataw0lf | unless you've got some insane stealth capability |
| 01:16.46 | Lone_Wanderer | never heard of a stealth chopper |
| 01:16.49 | dataw0lf | us, germans, brits, israelis, maybe french |
| 01:17.05 | dataw0lf | Lone_Wanderer: they got em, but none that'd avoid a PATRIOT |
| 01:17.06 | Lone_Wanderer | So, nobody we'd be likely to go up against |
| 01:17.12 | dataw0lf | nah |
| 01:17.18 | Lone_Wanderer | so what's the worry then? |
| 01:17.18 | dataw0lf | even if they did they'd have PAC-1 or something |
| 01:17.29 | dataw0lf | perfect practice makes perfect |
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| 01:17.36 | Lone_Wanderer | true |
| 01:18.01 | dataw0lf | most countries under the big ones have HAWK missiles, and those are pretty avoidable with our current distraction technologies |
| 01:18.10 | dataw0lf | terrorists have stingers |
| 01:18.20 | dataw0lf | quite capable at a short distance, but you gotta spot em before you shoot em |
| 01:18.22 | Lone_Wanderer | those are shoulder-launched right? |
| 01:18.25 | dataw0lf | yea |
| 01:18.32 | dataw0lf | had to run with those over our shoulders in pathfinder school |
| 01:19.00 | dataw0lf | Imagine running with a stinger launcher loaded across your shoulders for 5 miles |
| 01:19.02 | dataw0lf | innit fun |
| 01:19.14 | Lone_Wanderer | sounds great :p |
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| 01:19.36 | dataw0lf | yea, about 30/40 lbs or so, and it's not like a rucksack or anything |
| 01:19.47 | dataw0lf | try running with the m4 first ;) |
| 01:19.54 | dataw0lf | you'll get tired quick at the beginning |
| 01:20.06 | dataw0lf | but man they beat you into a soldier that's hard as rock |
| 01:21.15 | Lone_Wanderer | hmm, I need to quit and rejoin I think |
| 01:21.19 | Lone_Wanderer | weird firefox thing |
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| 01:23.01 | Lone_Wanderer | FF needs fixing in that respect I think. |
| 01:28.29 | mindjuju | hey, what do ya'll think about this page layout for managmentj |
| 01:28.30 | mindjuju | http://www.nuskinenterprises.com/en/about-nuskin/management/directors/ |
| 01:28.42 | mindjuju | i'm lookinf for some inspiration and found this |
| 01:29.12 | mindjuju | part of me wants some web 2.0 sexiness, but part of me wants to play it business professional |
| 01:29.52 | burnin | does the management whose mugs will be on the page have a say? :) |
| 01:30.19 | burnin | that page looks pretty standard, straighforward, business like. |
| 01:30.19 | mindjuju | they gave the text and the pics but the layout is mine |
| 01:30.30 | Lone_Wanderer | It looks good to me. |
| 01:30.45 | Lone_Wanderer | I haven't looked very hard though because I'm suddenly feeling like I want to go home. |
| 01:30.46 | mindjuju | what about some web 2.0 fx though? |
| 01:30.50 | burnin | heh, Nu Skin :) |
| 01:31.06 | dataw0lf | mindjuju: looks good, but you're missing one key element, I think |
| 01:31.16 | mindjuju | yeah, didn't come here directly, i was actually looking at names like Trump and Lee Iococa to see what they did |
| 01:31.30 | dataw0lf | mindjuju: You need a Liger. |
| 01:31.32 | dataw0lf | nuff said. |
| 01:31.42 | mindjuju | trump has a cool site and lee iococa doesn't have one, but a link from Lee was to nuskin page so that's how i got here |
| 01:32.08 | dataw0lf | hey.. .hey! |
| 01:32.10 | dataw0lf | where you going! |
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| 16:16.51 | mindjuju | wow... note to self, extension cord is not nearly strong enough to hold a person. - http://kutv.com/topstories/local_story_057113056.html |
| 16:16.55 | mindjuju | A man climbed up a birch tree, and threw Caten an orange electrical cord. She tied it around her waist and jumped. But the cord broke and she hit a railing three stories below. |
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| 16:29.06 | beandog | mornin |
| 16:29.17 | mindjuju | morning |
| 16:29.31 | beandog | hows it giong juju |
| 16:30.09 | mindjuju | writing an email that will likely cause a massive ruckus in my company... prolly the best idea i've had all month |
| 16:30.11 | mindjuju | you? |
| 16:30.20 | beandog | I barely made it into work alive |
| 16:30.27 | mindjuju | really? |
| 16:30.34 | beandog | yah, the snowstorm |
| 16:30.34 | mindjuju | i came in at 5 to beat the snow |
| 16:30.38 | beandog | 5? |
| 16:30.40 | mindjuju | it looks crazy ... yeah |
| 16:30.46 | mindjuju | yeah, who wants to drive in snow? |
| 16:31.15 | mindjuju | i'll just leave early . i hear the after noon drive will be much better |
| 16:31.46 | beandog | hopefully |
| 16:31.50 | dragonleech | not much better snow is suppose to last till all day |
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| 18:03.17 | mindjuju | more than half the employees here didn't come in today |
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| 18:09.49 | Lone_Wanderer | Shake not thy fist at the snow, my juju. |
| 18:10.24 | Lone_Wanderer | Shake it at the employees who cower before a bit of whiteness. |
| 18:11.02 | mindjuju | heh |
| 18:14.13 | macnewbold | ~yow |
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| 18:14.31 | mindjuju | heh |
| 18:14.35 | mindjuju | uh... |
| 18:14.39 | macnewbold | ~cookie |
| 18:14.40 | mindjuju | hope the wife doesn't find out |
| 18:14.45 | thebigdog | anyone here have a php cvs account? |
| 18:14.47 | Lone_Wanderer | Oddly enough, that happened to me once. |
| 18:15.18 | timinator | heh |
| 18:15.29 | timinator | php cvs? |
| 18:15.46 | Lone_Wanderer | While I was attending STMA: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Thomas_Academy |
| 18:16.05 | thebigdog | yeah php cvs account |
| 18:16.23 | thebigdog | im trying to figure out which server i need to login to modify my account |
| 18:16.49 | Lone_Wanderer | And these guys: http://www.crackdrillsquad.com/ are INSANELY good. |
| 18:18.27 | _psychic_ | that looks like a YW medallion |
| 18:18.35 | Lone_Wanderer | What does? |
| 18:19.01 | _psychic_ | on the URL you just posted |
| 18:19.06 | _psychic_ | the graphic on the left side |
| 18:19.07 | timinator | so.... while you were at STMA, you had a shapely CATHOLIC SCHOOLGIRL FIDGETING inside your costume??? |
| 18:19.07 | Lone_Wanderer | the crack drill one? |
| 18:19.16 | _psychic_ | yep |
| 18:19.31 | Lone_Wanderer | No, I was in a play with VISTA (Visitation / STA, Vis being the sister school) |
| 18:19.39 | Lone_Wanderer | where I had a costume |
| 18:19.56 | Lone_Wanderer | and a shapely girl from Vis put it on once |
| 18:20.01 | Lone_Wanderer | as a joke |
| 18:20.03 | timinator | NICE |
| 18:20.06 | Lone_Wanderer | dunno about the fidgeting |
| 18:20.22 | timinator | well, that's not the important part |
| 18:20.27 | Lone_Wanderer | Right. |
| 18:20.34 | timinator | LOL |
| 18:20.38 | Lone_Wanderer | and it DOES look like a YW medallion |
| 18:20.57 | _psychic_ | told ya |
| 18:21.14 | Lone_Wanderer | I wanted to be on the drill squad SO BAD |
| 18:21.28 | Lone_Wanderer | but I was yanked out of there before I got a chance :( |
| 18:22.00 | Lone_Wanderer | to attend the second of my four high schools |
| 18:28.48 | macnewbold | four is too many |
| 18:28.54 | macnewbold | I attended the same one for four years |
| 18:29.13 | _psychic_ | that would be really hard :/ |
| 18:29.18 | _psychic_ | (attending 4) |
| 18:29.20 | macnewbold | I did have to attend two different elementary schools though, switching between 3rd and 4th grade |
| 18:29.24 | macnewbold | yeah, it totally would be |
| 18:29.37 | macnewbold | it takes about 4 years before you know people |
| 18:30.46 | Lone_Wanderer | When I was a senior at one of them, everyone assumed I was a freshman 'cause they didn't know me. |
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| 18:33.13 | macnewbold | I got mistaken for a freshman too, but for other reasons :-/ |
| 18:34.36 | mindjuju | talking about that, i've never really been able to guess your age with any level of accuracy |
| 18:34.57 | mindjuju | when I saw how old your boys were, i knew i was wrong, unless you started early |
| 18:38.26 | macnewbold | relatively early by most people's standards, but not too abnormal for utah |
| 18:38.44 | macnewbold | I've been married for over 7 years, my oldest son is 5 and a half, and I got married at 21 |
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| 18:39.05 | dataw0lf | I'm 42, mindjuju |
| 18:39.07 | mindjuju | k, cause i'm guessing 25 |
| 18:39.31 | mindjuju | you know, dataw0lf, you don't really look 42 |
| 18:39.38 | dataw0lf | I know |
| 18:39.59 | macnewbold | http://pastebin.ca/374616 |
| 18:40.23 | jsmith | dataw0lf: I'm guessing 26 |
| 18:40.34 | mindjuju | yeah, i was going to say late twenties |
| 18:40.35 | macnewbold | I'm currently 28, mindjuju. and dataw0lf is 25-26 atm iirc. |
| 18:41.11 | dataw0lf | lies |
| 18:41.21 | mindjuju | see, you don't actually look 25 or 28, but i'm stretching that number out cause of your boys |
| 18:41.48 | macnewbold | yeah, it's a blessing and a curse |
| 18:42.14 | mindjuju | so, dataw0lf, how old are you? |
| 18:42.18 | macnewbold | the youthful looks won't last much longer if I keep going gray at the current rate... |
| 18:42.21 | thebigdog | hs is like 23 |
| 18:42.29 | macnewbold | then I'll look like a 25 year old 50 year old |
| 18:42.32 | dataw0lf | 24, 25 in a couple months |
| 18:42.44 | macnewbold | when I'm 30-something |
| 18:42.46 | thebigdog | getting up there |
| 18:42.56 | thebigdog | im too old |
| 18:43.17 | macnewbold | thebigdog turned 37 this year |
| 18:43.25 | mindjuju | i think we are about the same age, aren't we thebigdog |
| 18:43.30 | mindjuju | oh, no, i'm not 37 |
| 18:43.34 | dataw0lf | midlife crisis here he comes |
| 18:43.37 | thebigdog | 31 |
| 18:44.06 | mindjuju | your 31 thebigdog? |
| 18:44.10 | thebigdog | y |
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| 18:44.43 | dataw0lf | buncha old fogies |
| 18:44.51 | mgeary | i hear you mindjuju. here i thought dataw0lf was truthful at 42 :( |
| 18:45.13 | dataw0lf | my mental state is equivalent to a senile 78 year old |
| 18:45.21 | macnewbold | dataw0lf may be a veteran, but it wasn't from Korea or the Persian Gulf war |
| 18:45.27 | macnewbold | now he's telling the truth |
| 18:45.33 | dataw0lf | :D |
| 18:46.06 | macnewbold | really-early-onset alzheimers |
| 18:46.20 | macnewbold | and when he has too much caffeine, parkinsons too |
| 18:46.36 | macnewbold | j/k, those afflictions really aren't a laughing matter |
| 18:46.39 | thebigdog | my kids make me feel old |
| 18:47.04 | macnewbold | RyanE would show us all up if he were here |
| 18:47.17 | dataw0lf | dang, RyanE |
| 18:47.23 | dataw0lf | where has he been |
| 18:47.53 | dataw0lf | I haven't seen him in like two years |
| 18:49.10 | mindjuju | ~seen ryane |
| 18:49.35 | jbot | ryane <i=Piadas@rberick.dsl.xmission.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #uphpu, 196d 19h 59m 34s ago, saying: 'macnewbold: Are the cards going to be in before the meeting Thursday?'. |
| 18:50.01 | mindjuju | oh yeah, that was about the visibone stuff we bought |
| 18:50.13 | macnewbold | RyanE was at the family-style geek lunch at Goodwood's last month |
| 18:50.33 | dataw0lf | nice |
| 18:50.37 | mindjuju | yup |
| 18:52.15 | Utah_Dave | ~seen fungus |
| 18:52.36 | jbot | fungus <n=fungus@2001:470:1f00:645:250:8dff:fe71:9a6b> was last seen on IRC in channel #uphpu, 12d 51m 49s ago, saying: 'hurray for peanut butter!!!'. |
| 18:52.40 | mindjuju | i haven't seen fungus since he left aros |
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| 18:52.49 | mindjuju | wasn't he gonig to work for codegreene ? |
| 18:53.09 | Utah_Dave | when did he leave aros? before the big move? |
| 18:53.20 | mindjuju | yup, a few days before the big move |
| 18:53.39 | mindjuju | the monday of the week we had the UPHPU meet with alvaro |
| 18:53.45 | mindjuju | he was telling us about it |
| 18:54.18 | mindjuju | sounded like 3 techs walked with fungus when he left |
| 18:56.01 | Utah_Dave | could they see the shipwreck coming? I guess aros hadn't paid their rent for several months |
| 18:56.36 | mindjuju | well, from what fungus said, they werent that great at paying their employees either |
| 18:56.57 | mindjuju | and they lost their medical benefits because the company wasn't great at paying the premiums |
| 19:01.59 | Utah_Dave | that's too bad |
| 19:03.41 | macnewbold | yeah, fungus' situation was sad |
| 19:03.50 | macnewbold | last I heard he had a month of paychecks that were still bouncing |
| 19:04.17 | macnewbold | they saw it coming, and so did aros, they've just been telling the press and the customers that it was some kind of surprise or something |
| 19:04.19 | macnewbold | but it wasn't |
| 19:04.22 | Utah_Dave | I would have bailed, too. |
| 19:04.36 | macnewbold | fungus has been telling me all about it for 6-12 months as we carpool to UPHPU and stuff |
| 19:04.59 | macnewbold | the new owner wanted to put money into all sorts of crazy ideas, and sunk the company |
| 19:05.32 | macnewbold | http://www.reuters.com/article/scienceNews/idUSPEK20484520070227?src=022707_1301_ARTICLE_PROMO_also_on_reuters |
| 19:05.44 | macnewbold | [that's unrelated to fungus and aros, mostly] |
| 19:06.30 | dataw0lf | dude, paychecks bouncing |
| 19:06.40 | dataw0lf | that's ridiculous |
| 19:09.11 | mindjuju | dataw0lf, you were thinking about writing something like this |
| 19:09.12 | mindjuju | http://www.labsmedia.com/clickheat/ |
| 19:09.18 | macnewbold | yeah, he had just barely cashed one that was at least 6 weeks old when I talked ot him |
| 19:09.27 | macnewbold | ~zippy |
| 19:15.34 | timinator | have you heard from him recently, mac? Is he alright? |
| 19:16.40 | timinator | I wouldn't advertise that fact, wps |
| 19:17.02 | wps | :) |
| 19:17.08 | wps | it just came on the random… thought it was funny |
| 19:17.21 | wps | my mother-in-law's favorite song |
| 19:18.05 | timinator | and the entire gay community |
| 19:20.13 | beandog | heh |
| 19:21.12 | timinator | what's next in the ol' playlist there wps, Yanni? |
| 19:21.50 | wps | doesn't matter to me… I'm not going to let them ruin things for me… rainbows are fine and so is that song |
| 19:22.32 | dataw0lf | maybe you're ruining things for them |
| 19:22.43 | wps | it pisses me off that I cannot dress stylish without everyone asking me if I'm gay |
| 19:23.02 | dataw0lf | I get asked if I'm gay all the time because I can dance well |
| 19:23.06 | dataw0lf | who cares? |
| 19:23.10 | wps | exactly! |
| 19:23.19 | wps | why do people ask? |
| 19:23.24 | wps | why do they care about your orientation? |
| 19:23.27 | dataw0lf | it's usually girls hitting on me |
| 19:23.31 | wps | no one asks if you're straight? |
| 19:23.58 | dataw0lf | that's usually a given once I open my mouth and start talking smack |
| 19:24.03 | wps | s/?/./ |
| 19:26.52 | dataw0lf | "we're at war, we're at war with terrorism, we're at war with racism, but most of all we're at war ourselves" |
| 19:27.07 | dataw0lf | with* |
| 19:27.52 | beandog | bah. |
| 19:30.38 | Lone_Wanderer | "Why do they care if you're gay?" "I hate my gay plugin." |
| 19:31.46 | dataw0lf | heh |
| 19:32.00 | dataw0lf | 'plugin' |
| 19:32.01 | dataw0lf | hehe |
| 19:32.18 | timinator | ewww |
| 19:32.39 | mindjuju | when you said that dataw0lf, for some reason i heard it as beavis would have said it |
| 19:33.20 | dataw0lf | :) |
| 19:33.47 | dataw0lf | all we do is talk, sit, switch screens, as the homeland plans enemies |
| 19:33.51 | macnewbold | wps: yeah, I've heard from fungus lately, he's doing fine. I'm quite sure that not only were they writing him rubber paychecks, but that they were underpaying him anyway. |
| 19:33.59 | dataw0lf | invasion so succexy so succexy |
| 19:34.23 | dataw0lf | let's drink to the military, the glass is empty, faces to fill and cars to feed, nothing could beat completely denial |
| 19:34.25 | wps | huh? |
| 19:34.39 | dataw0lf | greatest antiwar song in the past 10 years |
| 19:43.10 | mindjuju | i guess it has been more than ten years since One - Metallica or Gods of War - Def Leppard |
| 19:44.35 | macnewbold | mgeary: are you serious? if so, where'd you get those albums/soundtracks? |
| 19:44.47 | mgeary | :D |
| 19:45.07 | mindjuju | you can get the vids on youtube |
| 19:45.17 | mgeary | macnewbold: didn't we have an earlier discussion about "I don't want to live on the moon" ? |
| 19:45.20 | mindjuju | and i saw some music cd on ebay a little while back i think |
| 19:45.53 | mgeary | anyway, yes, i do have the Schoolhouse Rock vids |
| 19:46.07 | mgeary | ripped them from the deluxe 2-DVD set we got for Christmas a year ago |
| 19:46.10 | macnewbold | I don't know, that might not have been me. I _do_ want to live on the moon. |
| 19:46.14 | macnewbold | ) |
| 19:46.16 | macnewbold | ;) |
| 19:46.27 | macnewbold | sweet |
| 19:46.36 | macnewbold | I'll have to see if the library has the audio from those or something |
| 19:46.57 | beandog | http://www.amazon.com/Best-Schoolhouse-Rock-Various-Artists/dp/B00000DGSW/sr=1-2/qid=1172605602/ref=sr_1_2/002-0576704-7240014?ie=UTF8&s=music |
| 19:50.44 | Lone_Wanderer | This music makes me want to go to Spain. |
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| 19:51.04 | beandog | not even realplayer will play these old codecs |
| 19:51.58 | beandog | http://www.amazon.com/Schoolhouse-Rock-Rocks-Various-Artists/dp/B000005J80/sr=1-15/qid=1172605877/ref=sr_1_15/002-0576704-7240014?ie=UTF8&s=music |
| 19:51.58 | beandog | I like that album ^^ |
| 19:54.08 | Lone_Wanderer | http://www.songmeanings.net/lyric.php?lid=3530822107858496239 - read it with a cheery, upbeat rhythm behind it. |
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| 20:23.45 | Lone_Wanderer | Must be running Windows. |
| 20:24.11 | beandog | and he's using qwest |
| 20:24.20 | beandog | that's pretty gay. |
| 20:25.10 | Lone_Wanderer | Yeah, man. Cool kids run (mumble mumble) and get their Internets through the (mumble mumble) series of tubes. |
| 20:27.07 | mgeary | okay, breech of protocol, i know, but here's a PHP question-- |
| 20:27.29 | Lone_Wanderer | s/breech/breach |
| 20:27.36 | mgeary | uh, yeah |
| 20:27.38 | mgeary | thanks |
| 20:27.51 | Lone_Wanderer | ;) |
| 20:28.35 | mgeary | if i want to call a method of an object, and the method is named by a variable, do i do: $this_obj->$method_var or $this_obj->$method_var() ? |
| 20:28.50 | Lone_Wanderer | second |
| 20:29.00 | Lone_Wanderer | in order to make it a function call, it needs the ()'s |
| 20:29.03 | mgeary | thanks. |
| 20:29.08 | Lone_Wanderer | yep |
| 20:30.11 | Lone_Wanderer | yeah |
| 20:37.29 | timinator | anyone on the oalug? |
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| 20:39.13 | timinator | (Ogden Area Linux User Group) |
| 20:39.54 | beandog | wb mindjuju |
| 20:40.11 | Lone_Wanderer | Wubba indeed, my good man. |
| 20:40.20 | mindjuju | oh thx |
| 20:40.27 | mindjuju | it was like Titanic there for a second |
| 20:40.48 | mindjuju | apps were starting to go on the fritz, intermittancy on the mouse keys were registering real slowly |
| 20:41.17 | mindjuju | oh, that's what happens when your running like 20 apps on a win xp machine for 3 days straight |
| 20:41.27 | mindjuju | everything starts to crash and you have to reboot |
| 20:42.06 | mindjuju | in fact, titanic is prolly the wrong example. it was more like bruce willis jumping off the building in Die Hard where i'm bruce willis and the computer rebooting is like the building exploding |
| 20:42.52 | beandog | hmm |
| 20:42.56 | beandog | thats an enjoyable analogy |
| 20:45.14 | macnewbold | yeah, windows exploding... |
| 20:45.17 | macnewbold | ~asplode windows |
| 20:45.19 | jbot | windows head asplode, k thx |
| 20:45.19 | Lone_Wanderer | So, my niece. |
| 20:45.34 | Lone_Wanderer | Not the Republican at BYU, a different one. |
| 20:46.10 | Lone_Wanderer | She's adopted, and has some interesting problems, mostly involving wanting to murder her family members. Which, at her age, is still cute. |
| 20:46.29 | mindjuju | hmmm.... |
| 20:46.47 | Lone_Wanderer | Her vocabulary sentences last week included, "My brother screamed when I bit him." and "My mom is lost in the Black Lagoon." and "My teacher cut off my finger |
| 20:46.56 | Lone_Wanderer | ." |
| 20:47.03 | mgeary | heh. what grade? |
| 20:47.05 | mindjuju | does she go around the house saying Red Rum ? |
| 20:47.07 | Lone_Wanderer | Don't know. |
| 20:47.16 | Lone_Wanderer | lol, not quite. They shouldn't show her that movie or she would start. |
| 20:47.55 | Lone_Wanderer | She's just very morbid. |
| 20:54.46 | Lone_Wanderer | Wow, my sister knows the guy in charge of security in the Green Zone personally. |
| 20:59.05 | mindjuju | yikes, looks like the Dow took it right to the jimmies |
| 20:59.05 | Lone_Wanderer | Ouch. |
| 20:59.10 | mindjuju | 500pt drop today |
| 20:59.53 | Lone_Wanderer | O_O |
| 20:59.57 | Lone_Wanderer | why? |
| 21:00.14 | mindjuju | speculation that our economy and china's economy is cooling |
| 21:00.19 | Lone_Wanderer | Did Greenspan's replacement trip and fall down the stairs? |
| 21:00.22 | mindjuju | darn that greenspan and his article |
| 21:00.54 | thebigdog | you don't have to put on the red light |
| 21:01.06 | thebigdog | those days are over |
| 21:01.07 | Lone_Wanderer | Moulin Rouge version? |
| 21:01.17 | thebigdog | you don't have to sell you body to the night |
| 21:01.22 | thebigdog | Roxane |
| 21:01.41 | thebigdog | i think im the worst typist in here |
| 21:03.35 | mindjuju | funny you say that, i just replaced my fancy schamncy wireless keyboard for an old school Hyer-Clickty keyboard |
| 21:08.31 | timinator | what's everyone think about apple stock? |
| 21:08.43 | Lone_Wanderer | I'm betting it'll go up. |
| 21:08.55 | Lone_Wanderer | Of course I have nothing to base that on, and I am not a financial advisor and this is not financial advice. |
| 21:09.05 | mindjuju | i wish i had google stock |
| 21:09.35 | timinator | I think google stock would be a bigger gamble than apple stock |
| 21:09.49 | mindjuju | psh |
| 21:09.56 | timinator | Google stock would be a good buy if they beat out M$$ |
| 21:10.00 | timinator | but that's a big if |
| 21:10.11 | mindjuju | microsoft today just said that they were caught off guard by the google online apps |
| 21:10.56 | timinator | don't get me wrong, I wish M$ was cut down to size.... or wiped from the map |
| 21:11.37 | mindjuju | here is that article about MS and Google |
| 21:11.38 | mindjuju | http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9588_22-6162557.html |
| 21:11.39 | timinator | but they have a substantial stronghold |
| 21:13.18 | timinator | I hear ya |
| 21:20.36 | timinator | but what about Apple? |
| 21:21.07 | timinator | what about them settling their lawsuits, unveiling the iPhone, etc |
| 21:21.22 | timinator | any thoughts? |
| 21:21.30 | mindjuju | well, you know how the xbox is lossing money per unit they sell, though MS makes up the money on game licenses |
| 21:21.49 | timinator | right |
| 21:21.50 | mindjuju | playsation 3 is losing something like 150 per unit but making up on game license too |
| 21:21.58 | timinator | k |
| 21:22.07 | mindjuju | my understanding is that steve jobs is the only one making a profit with everythign he sales |
| 21:22.17 | mindjuju | ipod is suppose to be something crazy like 45% profit margin |
| 21:22.23 | timinator | yep |
| 21:22.31 | mindjuju | so, i'd say he's a good bet |
| 21:22.35 | mindjuju | but that's just me |
| 21:22.37 | timinator | and that's after he cut prices |
| 21:22.42 | timinator | me too |
| 21:22.46 | mindjuju | yup, did you see that article too? |
| 21:22.49 | timinator | I'm thinking of buying a bit |
| 21:22.50 | mindjuju | came out like a week ago |
| 21:22.55 | timinator | about DRM? |
| 21:23.01 | timinator | or Schools? |
| 21:23.29 | mindjuju | can't remember where i saw it, but it was a recent article about steve jobs being one of the few making money striaght up in silicon valley |
| 21:27.29 | macnewbold | making money straight up? |
| 21:28.04 | macnewbold | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:28.47 | mindjuju | exactly |
| 21:29.37 | macnewbold | it would be interesting to see how well the market would bear a gaming product that cost as much as a PC, but had games for $20 instead of $50 |
| 21:29.59 | Lone_Wanderer | ouch |
| 21:30.11 | Lone_Wanderer | there would have to be a LOT of games available for it |
| 21:30.34 | Lone_Wanderer | With a console, it's a small investment up front that you can make with the reasonable expectation that there will be a handfull of games you'll enjoy on it |
| 21:31.05 | Lone_Wanderer | but if you spend a ton on a console and it ends up with only one or two games you feel like playing... even if they're cheap, it's still a gamble |
| 21:31.35 | Lone_Wanderer | and if a console's launch bombs, then developers won't be motivated to release games for it |
| 21:33.22 | mgeary | hey, on subversion, is there a way, on a per-directory basis, to have it not list "?" files? apparently propset:ignore (or however it goes) only works for "managed" files.... |
| 21:45.43 | timinator | BRB |
| 21:49.48 | tierra | mgeary: ignore should work fine for unknown files, it'd be dumb if it didn't as that's the whole point of using ignore |
| 21:50.19 | mgeary | well, i want to ignore an entire directory |
| 21:50.33 | tierra | just add the directory name (I've done it before) |
| 21:51.39 | mgeary | i'm doing this: |
| 21:51.45 | mgeary | svn propset svn:ignore templates_c |
| 21:51.52 | mgeary | where "templates_c" is the directory to ignore |
| 21:52.00 | mgeary | but when i do "svn st", i still get files in that dir |
| 21:52.43 | tierra | you need to set the property on the containing folder btw, not the folder itself |
| 21:53.46 | mgeary | sorry, yeah, i'm doing; |
| 21:53.48 | mgeary | svn propset svn:ignore templates_c . |
| 21:54.02 | mgeary | while in the folder containing templates_c |
| 21:54.03 | mgeary | :/ |
| 21:55.06 | tierra | I've got the following, and it's not showing the directory for me: |
| 21:55.12 | tierra | Bryan@pecker ~/svnroot/wxcontrib/trunk/wxcontrib/wxspellchecker |
| 21:55.12 | tierra | $ svn propget svn:ignore build | grep msvc |
| 21:55.12 | tierra | msvc6prj |
| 21:55.12 | tierra | Bryan@pecker ~/svnroot/wxcontrib/trunk/wxcontrib/wxspellchecker |
| 21:55.12 | tierra | $ ls -la build/ | grep msvc |
| 21:55.14 | tierra | drwx------+ 6 Bryan None 0 Feb 7 10:04 msvc6prj |
| 21:55.37 | tierra | msvc6prj isn't committed, and it doesn't show up in "svn st" |
| 21:57.22 | mgeary | ah |
| 21:57.29 | mgeary | sec |
| 21:58.48 | mgeary | so what propset command did you issue to get that result? |
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| 22:23.07 | timinator | back |
| 22:28.24 | tierra | mgeary: sorry, went to a late lunch |
| 22:28.36 | mgeary | no worries |
| 22:28.49 | tierra | I mostly use TortoiseSVN for the most part actually, and probably set it in there |
| 22:29.04 | mgeary | ah |
| 22:29.14 | Lone_Wanderer | dataw0lf: ping |
| 22:29.14 | tierra | but I've used command-line svn to set ignores before successfully as well |
| 22:29.32 | tierra | mgeary: let me try it on something new real quick |
| 22:30.29 | mgeary | this is all kind of indicative of my global svn config as well (~/.subversion/config). It respects my wildcard file-naming, but it doesn't apply those wildcards to directory names |
| 22:30.40 | mgeary | my global ignores, that is |
| 22:31.33 | tierra | mgeary: http://phpfi.com/209445 <- worked fine |
| 22:32.21 | mgeary | hrm. maybe i've got version-controlled stuff in that directory, and don't realize it. thanks for the example. i'll mess around with it |
| 22:34.39 | tierra | I don't think you can remove the folder unless it's empty of any committed files, so that would be odd for it to show up as ? with version-controlled files still in it |
| 22:45.41 | mgeary | well, the way it was originally, i added everything in the folder |
| 22:45.49 | mgeary | and then later did svn delete |
| 22:45.53 | mgeary | FWIW |
| 23:11.51 | Lone_Wanderer | I should just get an IV and have it start dripping caffeine into me at about 3:30 every day. |
| 23:12.52 | Lone_Wanderer | Then again, maybe feeling like this every day is *caused* by caffeine. I should start a log. I'd have to have someone brew coffee for me every morning, not telling me whether it's caffeinated or not. |
| 23:13.00 | Lone_Wanderer | Then we'd compare the results. |
| 23:19.32 | macnewbold | hehe |
| 23:20.34 | macnewbold | I bet starbucks would help you with that... have one of the guys there keep a little list of what they serve you, without telling you until the 2 week study is complete. |
| 23:20.40 | Lone_Wanderer | That'd only be single blind. We'd need one person to brew it and another person to give it to me, thereby making it double blind. |
| 23:20.46 | Lone_Wanderer | Ohhh, that's a good idea. |
| 23:21.14 | Lone_Wanderer | brb |
| 23:28.22 | macnewbold | (he probably went to get more caffeine...) |
| 23:28.31 | macnewbold | (or take a nap perhaps) |
| 23:29.04 | dataw0lf | Lone_Wanderer: what's up? |
| 23:33.55 | macnewbold | hehe |
| 23:34.03 | macnewbold | I was right... caffeine run |
| 23:35.51 | Lone_Wanderer | macnewbold: taking a nap is exactly what I want to do right now :p |
| 23:36.04 | beandog | dangit |
| 23:36.08 | beandog | now I want some pepsi, ya jerks. |
| 23:36.14 | Lone_Wanderer | dataw0lf: it was something about django. I believe I wanted to use a generic view, only apply a filter to the list before it's displayed. |
| 23:37.07 | dataw0lf | middleware |
| 23:37.28 | Lone_Wanderer | I found the relevant section in the django book |
| 23:44.02 | Lone_Wanderer | dataw0lf: I want to write a MUD again. |
| 23:44.08 | Lone_Wanderer | This seems to go in cycles. |
| 23:54.46 | Lone_Wanderer | dataw0lf: can you take a look at this page: http://www.djangobook.com/en/beta/chapter09/ under the section "Extending Generic Views" |
| 23:55.03 | Lone_Wanderer | Where it has More Complex Filtering, it shows a function. Where should that function be defined? |
| 23:55.26 | Lone_Wanderer | urls? models? |