| 00:00.53 | _psychic_ | Sometimes you have to wear estretchy pants. |
| 00:00.55 | _psychic_ | Iss for fun. |
| 00:01.17 | mindjuju | heh. i love nacho |
| 00:01.39 | _psychic_ | I hate them! I hate all the orphans in the whole wide world! |
| 00:02.11 | mindjuju | i even found that song, mucha muchacha |
| 00:02.32 | _psychic_ | We listen to the soundtrack here at work on music Fridays. |
| 00:03.03 | _psychic_ | "My love is like the nectar.... from a fruit which is forbidden..." |
| 00:03.17 | _psychic_ | RATM ain't got nuthin on Jack Black |
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| 00:14.25 | mindjuju | ~seen timriker |
| 00:14.52 | jbot | timriker <n=timr@pdpc/supporter/bronze/TimRiker> was last seen on IRC in channel #openmoko, 3d 22h 57m 33s ago, saying: 'oh. net issues. I'm off anyway...'. |
| 00:16.20 | mgeary | i've used authNet before |
| 00:16.34 | mgeary | wasn't *completely* blown away, but |
| 00:16.38 | mgeary | it was alright |
| 00:17.54 | mindjuju | really? i never had any problems with transactions that went through, pretty fast, decent features |
| 00:18.08 | mgeary | which method did you use? |
| 00:19.03 | mgeary | i've only ever used it in the "simple" way, where the transaction happens on their server. In my opinion, it's a lot simpler to have a server-to-server connection and keep the end-user on your server... |
| 00:19.03 | mindjuju | we computed all the charges and passed it to a secure web page. it's been prolly 3 years since i worked with them |
| 00:19.26 | mgeary | ... but i haven't done that with AuthNet. I wrote some interfacing code for FirePay a bit ago, that seemed pretty easy |
| 00:21.09 | macnewbold | authnet isn't too bad, mgeary |
| 00:21.09 | macnewbold | you just set it up so your server uses curl to do an https secure post to their server |
| 00:21.14 | macnewbold | and all the variables just get bundled up like a URL query string (without the URL encoding), as pairs of variable=value joined with & |
| 00:21.23 | macnewbold | they send back a result the same way |
| 00:21.27 | macnewbold | it's pretty simple |
| 00:22.35 | mgeary | yeah |
| 00:24.20 | macnewbold | authnet calls it "Advanced Integration Method (AIM)" and it does exactly what you said |
| 00:24.37 | macnewbold | keeps the user on your server, and you're the only one that ever talks to the authnet server |
| 00:24.44 | mgeary | yeah, much simpler than their "SIM", if you ask me |
| 00:24.59 | timinator | who does everyone go through for desktop PC systems? |
| 00:25.01 | macnewbold | their sim is for people that don't know how to do server-side programming |
| 00:25.04 | mgeary | though again, i've only ever used their SIM. had to jump through some serious hoops to customize the transaction page |
| 00:25.20 | mgeary | timinator: Apple |
| 00:25.22 | mgeary | :D |
| 00:25.28 | timinator | agreed :) |
| 00:25.39 | timinator | I'm on a 17" MBP |
| 00:25.41 | timinator | :) |
| 00:25.54 | timinator | but this is for some PC guys that have PC only software |
| 00:25.59 | timinator | no other option right now |
| 00:26.00 | macnewbold | timinator: I've used ecost.com and/or tigerdirect.com at times (especially for refurbs for cheap) or some sale at dell.com - locally software and more (softwaremore.com I think) or universal systems inc. are good |
| 00:26.06 | macnewbold | parallels? |
| 00:27.19 | timinator | I'm researching parallels and CrossOver (Wine), but I don't think that'll cut it |
| 00:27.47 | timinator | Does Parallels perform well? |
| 00:27.59 | mgeary | yes |
| 00:28.01 | mgeary | very well |
| 00:28.06 | mgeary | unless you need 3D acceleration |
| 00:28.34 | mgeary | i've seen benchmarks that actually put Parallels ahead of BootCamp for some operations |
| 00:28.52 | timinator | huh |
| 00:29.14 | timinator | what about networking w/ a Windows 2003 Server that doesn't like Macs? |
| 00:30.21 | mgeary | networking how? |
| 00:30.36 | mgeary | filesharing? mounting volumes? |
| 00:30.40 | timinator | ya |
| 00:30.44 | mgeary | never tried |
| 00:30.49 | timinator | I'll run the trial and see where it goes |
| 00:30.53 | timinator | thanks for the info |
| 00:32.25 | timinator | I'm outie... see ya tomorrow |
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| 13:52.22 | mindjuju | ugh, where is swb when you need her? |
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| 15:45.38 | beandog | superman 2++ |
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| 15:46.47 | mindjuju | yo beandog |
| 15:46.55 | beandog | yesh? |
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| 15:47.10 | mindjuju | can you look at this link and tell me if the effects are over the top |
| 15:47.11 | mindjuju | http://dojotoolkit.org/dojo/demos/widget/Fisheye.html |
| 15:47.33 | mindjuju | i didn't program it, but it's part of the AJAX / web 2.0 framework that I decided to use |
| 15:47.52 | mindjuju | i think it's cool, but wanted to see opinion of others |
| 15:47.56 | beandog | one second |
| 15:48.24 | thebigdog | way over the top |
| 15:48.38 | mindjuju | you don't like, thebigdog? |
| 15:48.44 | mindjuju | bummer. |
| 15:48.54 | thebigdog | no...i'm for very simple design |
| 15:49.04 | thebigdog | too much of that distracts from the page content |
| 15:49.42 | mindjuju | What about http://dojotoolkit.org/dojo/tests/lfx/test_lfx.html |
| 15:49.45 | mindjuju | the explode! function |
| 15:50.36 | beandog | make my CPU jump |
| 15:50.40 | beandog | so I'd smack it |
| 15:51.24 | beandog | 2nd one is intresting. |
| 15:51.35 | mindjuju | the explode! ? |
| 15:52.02 | mindjuju | i can design the div that comes up to make it look sexy |
| 15:52.26 | mindjuju | i just want the site to have a little interaction |
| 15:54.28 | beandog | I think interaction is overrated. |
| 15:54.45 | beandog | but Im old-school and opinionated. |
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| 15:58.10 | mindjuju | that's exactly the feedback i needed though. just an honest opinion |
| 15:59.13 | mindjuju | thebigdog , what did you think about the explode! implode! ? |
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| 15:59.16 | mindjuju | too much? |
| 16:00.17 | mindjuju | or anybody else want to offer an opinion? |
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| 16:10.38 | Utah_Dave | mindjuju: sorry, I missed the question you asked |
| 16:11.22 | mindjuju | heya Utah_Dave |
| 16:11.31 | mindjuju | i was just asking for people's opinion on these |
| 16:11.32 | mindjuju | <script type="text/javascript" src="../../dojo.js"></script> |
| 16:11.37 | mindjuju | oops, hang on quick sec |
| 16:11.42 | mindjuju | http://dojotoolkit.org/dojo/tests/lfx/test_lfx.html |
| 16:11.42 | mindjuju | http://dojotoolkit.org/dojo/demos/widget/Fisheye.html |
| 16:11.53 | mindjuju | for the first link, the explode and implode function |
| 16:12.03 | mindjuju | for the second link, the fisheye menu system |
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| 16:13.53 | mindjuju | you like? |
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| 16:30.27 | mindjuju | is it anygood? |
| 16:30.56 | thebigdog | i heard it is really good...does a great job |
| 16:31.01 | thebigdog | i almost bought it |
| 16:31.19 | thebigdog | but decided to use mencoder and mess around with that |
| 16:32.51 | thebigdog | big problem is that dvds are so different that ripping them the same does not always work |
| 16:34.07 | mindjuju | so i've found |
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| 16:38.40 | *** topic/#UPHPU by wps -> Meeting Thursday: automated testing |
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| 17:29.58 | Lone_Wanderer | lunch? I just barely got in to work! |
| 17:30.10 | Lone_Wanderer | ...and forgot to bring in a lunch today. drat. |
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| 17:32.20 | mindjuju | jsmith is actually in virginia so it's 12 there |
| 18:23.04 | macnewbold | Lone_Wanderer: you're welcome to come to lunch with beandog and dragonleech and I, if you're interested - in fact, being Tuesday, we might be doing pizza day today |
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| 18:23.39 | Lone_Wanderer | ohhh, pizza! |
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| 18:34.00 | macnewbold | ~zippy |
| 18:34.18 | mindjuju | huh? |
| 18:34.24 | mindjuju | baked bean and regis? |
| 18:34.34 | mindjuju | ~jbot |
| 18:34.37 | jbot | from memory, jbot is only marginally useful at best, He got a C- on his Turing Test |
| 18:34.37 | macnewbold | ~yow |
| 18:35.00 | mindjuju | jbot, jbot is also dating the fembots |
| 18:35.01 | jbot | okay, mindjuju |
| 18:35.07 | mindjuju | ~jbot |
| 18:35.10 | jbot | methinks jbot is only marginally useful at best, He got a C- on his Turing Test, or dating the fembots |
| 18:39.58 | Lone_Wanderer | Ohhh, Minnesota! |
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| 20:04.39 | mindjuju | oh wow. bluRay and HDDVD fully broken |
| 20:04.41 | mindjuju | http://www.boingboing.net/2007/02/13/bluray_and_hddvd_bro.html |
| 20:05.30 | mindjuju | poetic - AACS took years to develop, and it has been broken in weeks. The developers spent billions, the hackers spent pennies. |
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| 20:10.47 | mindjuju | finally, bout time you showed |
| 20:10.53 | mindjuju | how was skiing? |
| 20:11.02 | swb | :( have been out sick |
| 20:11.11 | swb | skiing was AWESOME |
| 20:11.21 | Lone_Wanderer | I keep reading "swb" as "Single White... ???" |
| 20:11.31 | swb | lol |
| 20:11.53 | swb | that's so funny because my previous initials were swf |
| 20:12.32 | Lone_Wanderer | :) |
| 20:13.53 | swb | how was lunch on Friday?? |
| 20:14.18 | mindjuju | delish |
| 20:14.56 | mindjuju | so, how as dave and what did you learn? |
| 20:15.11 | swb | met lots of ppl |
| 20:15.15 | swb | had tons of fun |
| 20:15.38 | swb | learned (from Dave's presentation) that I need to spice up my office |
| 20:15.54 | swb | learned a bit about ajax and css3 |
| 20:16.13 | mindjuju | did you take notes, or did they give ya'll copies of the deck? |
| 20:16.46 | swb | took notes, but haven't blogged anything yet cuz I've been sick :( |
| 20:21.18 | Lone_Wanderer | spice up your office? |
| 20:21.51 | swb | as in, you should have a nice office space that inspires you |
| 20:24.46 | macnewbold | feng shui |
| 20:25.15 | swb | that same presentation talked about workflow and dealing with clients from a freelancer's point of view |
| 20:25.29 | mindjuju | hey, that's cool |
| 20:25.47 | swb | Jared Spool was an awesome speaker, very funny |
| 20:26.06 | mindjuju | so did you get enough people to go for free? |
| 20:26.35 | swb | nah, but that's okay since I was able to get my boss to pay the bill |
| 20:26.48 | mindjuju | nice |
| 20:27.25 | Lone_Wanderer | ohhh |
| 20:27.36 | swb | hey, I didn't hear Cameron Moll speak... but I heard he lives in Salt Lake City |
| 20:27.38 | swb | small world |
| 20:28.10 | mindjuju | maybe we should see if he'll address the group |
| 20:28.19 | swb | that'd be way cool |
| 20:28.30 | Lone_Wanderer | Whoever made this pizza did a good job. The dough was prepared just right. |
| 20:28.49 | swb | I hear Cameron works for the church |
| 20:29.03 | mindjuju | http://www.cameronmoll.com/ |
| 20:29.12 | swb | Oh, and microformats, lots of talk about microformats |
| 20:29.41 | mindjuju | microformats? |
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| 20:30.27 | swb | I think of microformats as standardized class naming... but there's a whole site on it: http://microformats.org/ |
| 20:31.40 | Lone_Wanderer | he named his son after a mountain? |
| 20:31.49 | Lone_Wanderer | he *must* live in Utah |
| 20:32.16 | swb | what's the name? |
| 20:32.20 | mindjuju | i need to read that cameron website |
| 20:32.23 | Lone_Wanderer | Everest |
| 20:32.31 | mindjuju | he answers a lot of questions i've had |
| 20:32.33 | Lone_Wanderer | Everest Moll |
| 20:32.46 | Lone_Wanderer | Insert joke about making a mountain out of a Moll. |
| 20:33.29 | swb | hehe, definitely a unique name |
| 20:34.32 | mindjuju | oh that's funny |
| 20:34.41 | mindjuju | You’re the best ever!”–Suzanne, wife and biggest fan |
| 20:39.27 | wps | wow, my friend just got hood-winked at the electronics store |
| 20:39.36 | wps | they sold him "HD miniDVs" for 2 for $30 |
| 20:39.49 | wps | there is no difference between SD miniDV tapes and HD miniDV tapes |
| 20:39.59 | wps | and you can get miniDV tapes on Amazon for 5 for $12 |
| 20:40.10 | mindjuju | poor guy! |
| 20:43.06 | herlo | girls ;) |
| 20:43.27 | swb | ha, but I hate actual shopping (as in at the mall) |
| 20:43.55 | herlo | swb: you coming on thurs? |
| 20:44.07 | swb | yes |
| 20:44.08 | herlo | It's been a while since I've been around... |
| 20:44.10 | wps | i love to shop… but I hate to window shop |
| 20:44.11 | herlo | cool |
| 20:44.38 | wps | if I don't actually have the cash to buy it, I just get mad |
| 20:44.43 | tierra | is that this thursday, or next? I thought it was supposed to be the third thursday |
| 20:44.48 | herlo | this |
| 20:44.57 | tierra | oh, it is third |
| 20:44.59 | wps | this is the third |
| 20:45.20 | herlo | yes it is |
| 20:45.34 | wps | i have no will power against cookies |
| 20:45.46 | herlo | ~stop wps |
| 20:45.48 | jbot | ACTION leaps to his feet and stops wps |
| 20:46.48 | mindjuju | thx |
| 20:46.53 | mindjuju | i guess |
| 20:47.00 | mindjuju | what kind of cookie was it? |
| 20:47.26 | wps | chocolate ship |
| 20:47.31 | wps | s/ship/chip/ |
| 20:47.55 | _psychic_ | notice how he knew what kind it was, though he only saw it for a split second? |
| 20:48.06 | wps | although I have the munchies bad enough I could probably eat a chocolate ship |
| 20:48.14 | _psychic_ | freudian slip |
| 21:13.12 | swb | my fav shirt from the WDN trip: http://flickr.com/photos/sageandadam/388655850/ |
| 21:13.16 | swb | hehehe |
| 21:14.26 | swb | the conference crowd is all about flickr |
| 21:14.30 | swb | are you guys on flickr? |
| 21:14.45 | mindjuju | i was on long enough to see the pics |
| 21:18.03 | swb | sounds like a no to flickr |
| 21:18.05 | swb | heh |
| 21:19.50 | jsmith | I think I've got a login to flickr somewhere here, but I like zooomr |
| 21:21.24 | wps | jbot, flicker is what you do to boogers |
| 21:21.27 | jbot | wps: okay |
| 21:22.19 | wps | jbot, no flicker is a type of booger |
| 21:22.20 | jbot | wps: okay |
| 21:22.45 | Utah_Dave | ~flicker |
| 21:22.46 | jbot | hmm... flicker is a type of booger |
| 21:23.14 | wps | oh, there's no e in that, huh |
| 21:23.17 | wps | jbot, forget flicker |
| 21:23.39 | wps | jbot, flickr is a type of booger |
| 21:23.40 | jbot | wps: okay |
| 21:23.46 | wps | ~flickr |
| 21:23.48 | jbot | it has been said that flickr is a type of booger |
| 21:23.48 | swb | there's at least one photo of me on flickr from WDN |
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| 21:25.06 | wps | you sure you don't want to flickr one at me? |
| 21:25.24 | _psychic_ | boogers are flicked, not flickered |
| 21:25.24 | swb | ewwww |
| 21:26.04 | thebigdog | anyone know who signs that one? |
| 21:26.05 | wps | just making fun of a website that I don't understand |
| 21:26.09 | wps | like mycesspool.com |
| 21:26.16 | wps | oh, wait… it's myspace.com |
| 21:31.04 | jsmith | Yeah, I guess I just don't get these "social" network sites. |
| 21:31.25 | jsmith | I don't spend that much time online worrying about what photos my friends uploaded of the wild parties I didn't go to |
| 21:32.24 | mindjuju | don't even think i used my handle, didn't want it to get sullied |
| 21:36.32 | thebigdog | i think you got it the other way around |
| 21:36.46 | mindjuju | your listening to jane's addiction? |
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| 21:36.58 | thebigdog | swb gots ac/dc thebigdog jane's addiction and timinator tracy chapman |
| 21:37.07 | timinator | hey now |
| 21:38.07 | xilch|w | like, all the time |
| 21:38.08 | timinator | lol |
| 21:38.08 | mindjuju | heh |
| 21:39.48 | mindjuju | booty man? |
| 21:40.01 | timinator | booty man!?! |
| 21:40.13 | dataw0lf | ... booty man |
| 21:40.15 | wps | sweet album |
| 21:40.34 | mindjuju | when i was young boy, at the age of 5... |
| 21:40.35 | timinator | mindjuju++ |
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| 21:49.12 | wps | check out my baby! |
| 21:49.14 | wps | http://shearerfam.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/paisley_in_boots.jpg |
| 21:49.33 | wps | she's dancing with a monkey in her underwear and boots |
| 21:50.05 | mindjuju | that's an awesome pic! |
| 21:50.21 | wps | it's funny, because she looks so big |
| 21:50.39 | wps | she can't even crawl yet but because I have her leaning against the dresser it looks like she can stand on her own |
| 21:51.45 | dataw0lf | she's a cutie dude |
| 21:51.53 | timinator | too cute man |
| 21:52.11 | wps | http://shearerfam.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/01/big_eyes.jpg |
| 21:52.30 | wps | she's really funny |
| 21:52.52 | Lone_Wanderer | lol, when you said "dancing with a monkey in her underwear" I thought you meant that she was dancing as if there were a monkey in her underwear. |
| 21:53.02 | wps | :) |
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| 22:05.52 | swb | sounds like you guys need social networking for music |
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