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00:26.00beandogActive development and support for MySQL database server versions 3.23, 4.0, and 4.1 have ended.
00:26.04beandogcrazy.
00:26.16beandogseems like they dropped 4.1 pretty fast.
00:26.51beandoghttp://www.mysql.com/company/legal/lifecycle/#calendar
00:28.25macnewboldwow, that's quick
00:28.31macnewboldnot even supported anymore? yow
00:28.46beandogI guess theyre wanting to push 5.0 pretty hard
00:28.48macnewboldI can understand 3.23...
00:28.58beandogOf course, I can understand not wanting to support 4 product versions all at the same time.
00:29.04beandoger, develop
00:29.06macnewboldyeah, but if 5.0 breaks some backwards compatibility, you cant expect everyone to jump all at once
00:29.11beandogtrue
00:29.24macnewboldI don't care that they don't develop on 4.x anymore, that's fine
00:29.28macnewboldI just want something stable
00:29.37macnewboldthat gets a few security fixes and maybe some bug fixes here and there
00:29.56beandogyah
00:30.05beandogseems 5.0 is pretty new for them to be dumping the other ones already.
00:32.29Utah_Daveyeah, that is really quick
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00:52.44mindjujuwell, heck, if geek families are coming, maybe i'll see if my wife can go
00:52.48mindjujushe LOVES goodwood
01:01.29beandogmysql 4.0 doesnt support views, doe sit
01:01.30beandogmyisam
01:09.42mindjujudon't remember it supporting views
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01:21.35thebigdogi dont thing it does
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09:56.46garyJust a quick question regarding MVC structure...
09:57.19garyI am saving some information, just text.  The form holding this information is posted to the controller, who then passes it to $model->save($_POST) to be saved
09:57.22garyAll works fine
09:58.05garyHowever, I now want to upload PDF's on the same form.  Do you think this should be done via the controller or in the model.  Because, if the user saves the form anywhere, it will check for pdf upload/delete and do that action as well
09:58.11garySo it will save the whole form - if that makes sense
09:58.39garyAt the minute I am doign this in the model: function save($_POST, $_FILES) {
09:59.11garyif (!empty($_FILES['name'])) { $pdf = new PDF; $pdf-upload($_FILES); ..... }
09:59.17garyI then save the rest of the form information, like the text
09:59.30garyMy question is really, should I uplod the pdf in the model, or should I do it in the controller
10:02.34garyhmm, think it should be done in the controller
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16:10.05beandogmo'nin
16:17.08timinatormo'nin
16:17.21herloaftern'n
16:17.33herlowell, in 43 mins anyway
16:18.19timinatorwhere are you again herlo?
16:18.31herlocurrently, Philly.  
16:18.38timinatornice
16:18.40herloI live in Utah, but I travel quite a bit
16:18.48timinatorI see
16:18.52herlohow far?
16:19.13timinatorpretty far
16:19.20timinatorfor a white guy
16:20.11beandogheh
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16:28.21timinatormornin' thebigdog
16:28.33thebigdogmornin
16:28.37dripyar
16:28.49thebigdogkk donut
16:28.54dripMmm.. donut.
16:29.01dripWhat CAN'T they do?!
16:29.17thebigdogstay out of my hand
16:29.21timinatorblink now herlo
16:29.24driplol
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17:54.13macnewbold~zippy
17:54.41macnewbold<shameless plug>
17:54.44macnewboldhttp://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,655191900,00.html
17:54.47macnewbold</shameless plug>
17:55.04wpscongrats, macnewbold
17:55.09macnewboldthanks
17:56.30beandogshameless plugs are the best ones
17:57.28thebigdogshameless
17:57.32beandog"There is no long-term evil contract."
17:57.34beandoghee hee
17:57.38beandognice.
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18:06.36dataw0lfsup bradym
18:06.39dataw0lfyou wanted to talk to me?
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18:08.02mindjujumacnewbold - digity dugg  http://www.digg.com/software/Cool_software_that_reminds_students_about_projects_and_homework_Gradefix
18:10.30dataw0lfhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/frontpage/story/0,,2004399,00.html
18:10.39bradymyeah, i flew out to foster city on wednesday
18:12.33dataw0lfbradym: yea, Aaron said he talked to you
18:13.30beandogdigg is so 2006.
18:13.39bradymdataw0lf: I left there not really sure of how it went, none of the 5 people I spoke with gave me any indicator of how they thought it went. But then Marty called yesterday and said he thinks they'll make an offer.
18:13.50dataw0lfyea, they will
18:25.52thebigdogcan i get an offer
18:28.07Utah_Davethebigdog: I'll offer you a cheetoh!
18:28.17dataw0lfI'll offer you to get your butt kicked in Madden 07
18:28.18thebigdogummm
18:28.33thebigdogdataw0lf that is probably the case
18:30.49dataw0lflead block lead block, juke, pass
18:31.09macnewboldmindjuju: you rock - that's a great digg
18:31.12thebigdogrun
18:31.12macnewboldrising quickly too it seems
18:31.37dataw0lfno running, you step into the pocket, juke, and you pass to one of your two wrs you got out there
18:32.16mindjujuyup!  i just want a ride on the company jet when gradefix goes big
18:32.34macnewboldwe already made the "most popular" list for upcoming software stories:
18:32.36macnewboldhttp://www.digg.com/software/upcoming/most
18:33.13beandogI used tol ike digg until it became more sensational than slashdot
18:33.18beandogwhich seemed hard to top at the time.
18:33.28dataw0lfpeople will be people, beandog
18:35.46macnewboldfungus: http://www.digg.com/software/Cool_software_that_reminds_students_about_projects_and_homework_Gradefix
18:39.30mindjujucurious, they can use pyrotech but not real whips?
18:39.32mindjujuhttp://www.inentertainment.co.uk/ford-wants-whip-or-no-indiana-jones/
18:41.48macnewboldyou can't have indiana jones without a whip... that's like Han Solo without a blaster in his hand, or Chewie at his side, or the Falcon
18:42.03mindjujuv true
18:42.17dataw0lfbetter have a whip or I ain't going to see it
18:42.45mindjujuheh
18:44.05dataw0lfhttp://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/football/nfl/specials/playoffs/2006/02/01/bc.fbn.superbowl.church.ap/index.html?cnn=yes
18:44.08_psychic_you can blow up cars but you can't use a whip?
18:44.26mindjujuyeah, that's what i'm saying!
18:45.08dataw0lfcars are blown up only in the presence of stunt actors and pyrotechnics experts
18:45.59mindjujui guess what we need are whip experts, physics experts to project the trajectory of the whip and a mathematician to help
18:46.14dataw0lfor retrieve our balls
18:46.26_psychic_no joke. get a spine
18:46.49dataw0lfI used to throw firecrackers at my little brother
18:47.13_psychic_and make movies of it?
18:47.22dataw0lfI'm sure there's recordings somewhere
18:47.40dataw0lfI can go get some firecrackers and record myself throwing them at you
18:48.46_psychic_that's quite a toss
18:48.56dataw0lfI'
18:49.05dataw0lfI've got a arm like peyton manning
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18:52.29_psychic_bring it
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18:57.48macnewboldw00t, the digg is almost there!
18:57.50macnewboldjust need a few more
18:58.00macnewboldhttp://www.digg.com/software/upcoming/most
19:09.49macnewboldis it kosher to send a digg link to the uphpu mailing list?
19:10.20beandogyouve got it all wrong
19:10.22beandogsend first, ask second.
19:10.24beandog:)
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19:30.49macnewboldtiminator: have a sec to digg? http://www.digg.com/software/Cool_software_that_reminds_students_about_projects_and_homework_Gradefix
19:43.31timinatorsorry dude, was away for a sec
19:43.34timinatorsure
19:47.45timinatordone
20:09.31wpsany Snow Patrol fans? I just bought their album and have really been enjoying it
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20:18.13thebigdog:(
20:18.44optikalwps: They're coming to town with OK Go on Mar 6th (or 9th, I forget which)
20:19.00wpscool
20:19.27optikalIts crazy.. My Chemical Romance, Taking Back Sunday, Snow Patrol and OK Go will all be in town betweem Mar 6-Mar 9 hehe
20:19.37optikal_psychic_: haha
20:19.43_psychic_for real :)
20:24.26thebigdogmindjuju you like cornelius?
20:33.00dataw0lfI hope you know that I created a digg account just for you macnewbold
20:33.23macnewbolddataw0lf: aw, how sweet :)
20:36.26dataw0lfalso, gradefix fails XHTML / CSS validation.
20:40.53macnewbold~bonk dataw0lf
20:40.55jbotACTION bonks dataw0lf over the head
20:41.18macnewboldit may fail validation, I haven't checked... but it does work as expected in all the major browsers :-D
20:41.27macnewboldthat's what our users care about
20:43.02dataw0lftrue dat
20:44.42dataw0lfhttp://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/
20:44.44dataw0lfrololol
20:47.13beandogmeh
20:47.59_psychic_its a rip off of a JoT comic though
20:48.10beandogmacnewbold: I signed up for one of those serverpronto accts last night
20:48.16beandogI still havent gotten my setup email
20:48.16macnewboldcool
20:48.19macnewboldhow is it?
20:48.21macnewboldoh, that's bad
20:48.23beandogtheyre probably still intstalling gentoo on there.
20:48.33_psychic_dataw0lf: http://www.geekculture.com/joyoftech/joyarchives/915.html
20:48.38macnewboldhaha
20:48.40macnewboldyeah, true
20:48.50beandogshould be fun though
20:48.56beandogI got an extra ip address for who knows why.
20:49.03beandogit was only an extra $10 on setup
20:49.27dataw0lf_psychic_: I don't see it as a ripoff, it's just Microsoft's stupidity that's recognizable to just about everyone
20:49.38dataw0lfbesides, that one doesn't mention the HIV
20:49.51_psychic_the punchlines are different yeah
20:49.55_psychic_probably not a ripoff
20:49.57_psychic_but really close
20:50.05_psychic_to each other
21:05.11mindjujutoo funny - http://www.linuxgenuineadvantage.org/
21:06.29beandogmindjuju: nice
21:07.01mindjujuyeah, pretty funny
21:08.55_psychic_didja download it?
21:09.14mindjujunope
21:09.33mindjujulooked at the source code though
21:10.24bradymfrom the install file:  
21:10.24bradym"Then visit our web site to register your computer and pay the required
21:10.24bradymlicensing fees. Once you do that, your computer will continue working properly,
21:10.24bradymexactly as it did before."
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21:40.07dataw0lfwhat's the best way to sync two MySQL daemons with the same databases / tables?
21:41.51beandogsync?
21:41.56beandoglike just once, or replication
21:42.36_psychic_master/slave ?
21:43.35dataw0lfjust once
21:45.23thebigdogdump import
21:46.01dataw0lfgoddamn it
21:46.03bradymmysqldump
21:46.08dataw0lferr goddang it
21:46.15dataw0lferr goshdang it
21:48.07macnewboldmysqldump --add-drop-table dbname | ssh -C hostname mysql dbname
21:54.24mindjujui read the whole wiki on FTP but i guess nobody there has wondered which is faster
21:58.40dataw0lfmindjuju: HTTP
21:58.47dataw0lfmost likely
21:58.49mindjujureally?
21:58.51dataw0lfyea
21:59.11mindjujuwell, wiki did say there was a lot of latency because of having to send all these commands back and forth
21:59.43mindjujuthx for the info
22:46.59macnewboldanyone here who hasn't dugg yet? We're a few shy of the home page it seems: http://www.digg.com/software/Cool_software_that_reminds_students_about_projects_and_homework_Gradefix
22:48.28macnewboldjust need a few more people to tell friends about it
23:23.13dataw0lfhttp://www.seattlewireless.net/~liquidfish/atm_netstat.jpg
23:24.13_psychic_whoa
23:24.29_psychic_(pic is 2yrs old?)
23:24.37dataw0lfyea
23:25.25_psychic_It takes some guts to build your ATM kiosk software from Windows.
23:25.34_psychic_Specially if it listens on that many ports.
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23:44.50Exotics_userhi all
23:44.52Exotics_userEXOTICS ADULT FORUM ::::::::::: http://exotics.ezbbforum.com .....
23:44.54Exotics_userEXOTICS ADULT FORUM ::::::::::: http://exotics.ezbbforum.com .....
23:44.56Exotics_userEXOTICS ADULT FORUM ::::::::::: http://exotics.ezbbforum.com .....
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23:46.50bradym/WHO EXOTICS_USER
23:46.55bradymARGH
23:47.06bradymcan't remember my irc commands apparently
23:48.44macnewboldgreat, that was fun
23:50.55timinatorgeez... looks like I just missed all the fun
23:51.36dataw0lfgosh dang it
23:52.02dataw0lfah, got it
23:52.05dataw0lf88.232.48.162
23:52.10dataw0lfexotics ip
23:53.08_psychic_turkey
23:53.08_psychic_nice.
23:53.08dataw0lffair game
23:53.08timinatorI wanna help
23:53.08timinatorwhat do we do?
23:53.14timinator:)
23:53.34dataw0lftrying to reroute ICMP, good try, lil buddy
23:53.47_psychic_no ping response at all
23:53.56_psychic_-P0
23:53.58dataw0lfyea, he's dead ending it
23:54.41dataw0lfI got him
23:54.45dataw0lfold proftp server
23:54.48dataw0lfeine moment
23:55.17dataw0lfDOS or shell access?
23:56.07timinatorhe he ho ho..... shell baby
23:56.08beandogdid you really?
23:56.08dataw0lfeine moment, might take me a bit to escalate
23:56.19beandoglol
23:56.22beandog++
23:56.32dataw0lfalright, give me like 20 minutes to execute this in the background until I find the correct shellcode.
23:57.00timinatornote to self: don't piss off DW
23:57.23dataw0lfwell, if you're running an unpatched old ftp server, even on a nonstandard port
23:57.50beandogtiminator: heh
23:57.57dataw0lfohp, he's blocking my ip now, I'll just DOS him real quick
23:58.12dataw0lfhope it's auto blacklisting.
23:58.13_psychic_I think he blocked me too
23:58.23_psychic_I didn't even find an open port :/
23:58.46dataw0lfwith nmap
23:59.03dataw0lfnmap is ok for passive recon
23:59.09dataw0lfbut for any aggressive sort of action, meh

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