| 00:00.24 | thebigdog | dish |
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| 00:22.07 | dataw0lf | tierra: 'the industry standard' ? |
| 00:23.19 | tierra | sure, I have nothing to backup that statement, but if there is a standard for video processing, I wouldn't doubt mplayer/mencoder is on that list |
| 00:23.38 | beandog | huzzah! |
| 00:23.40 | beandog | mplayer++ |
| 00:25.08 | dataw0lf | tierra: hehe |
| 00:25.34 | dataw0lf | I'm sure Dreamworks is using mplayer behind the scenes. |
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| 00:27.42 | dataw0lf | so I've already been roped into another relationship |
| 00:28.44 | mindjuju | another relationship? i thought you were seeing a pre-med student? |
| 00:31.41 | dataw0lf | that was two girlfriends ago |
| 00:31.48 | dataw0lf | I broke up with my last one couple days ago |
| 00:32.05 | dataw0lf | for a newer model |
| 00:32.16 | mindjuju | girlfriend 3.0 ? |
| 00:32.34 | dataw0lf | probably smartest and hottest girl I've dated in the past couple years |
| 00:32.42 | dataw0lf | I keep track of these things |
| 00:32.56 | mindjuju | is she tech savvy? |
| 00:33.31 | dataw0lf | she plays The Sims Online. |
| 00:33.38 | dataw0lf | that's about as far as that goes, though. |
| 00:34.02 | mindjuju | they have Sims Online? Is that like MMORPG ? |
| 00:34.41 | dataw0lf | yea |
| 00:34.50 | mindjuju | that's cool. |
| 00:34.57 | beandog | its like a super gay parading waste of time |
| 00:35.01 | beandog | thats what sims online would be, I imagine. |
| 00:35.08 | mindjuju | was just thinking that |
| 00:35.16 | mindjuju | would you go to your sim job and do sim work? |
| 00:35.21 | beandog | ddo = a real mmorpg :D |
| 00:35.35 | beandog | the thing I hated about sims is they made you flush the toilet. |
| 00:35.41 | dataw0lf | stderr.ws/dump/kass1.jpg stderr.ws/dump/kass2.jpg |
| 00:35.58 | mindjuju | what happened if you didn't flush the toilet ? |
| 00:36.17 | beandog | your health went down. |
| 00:36.33 | mindjuju | cool! can you get beat up by thugs or die in Sims? |
| 00:36.53 | dataw0lf | if I'm on the Sims you can! |
| 00:37.06 | beandog | lol |
| 00:37.15 | mindjuju | yeah, i'm sure if dataw0lf was on there there would be major butt kicking |
| 00:37.29 | mindjuju | actually, i wonder if you can pick a fight in Sims? |
| 00:37.39 | beandog | you can make people angry at you |
| 00:37.41 | beandog | I remember that much |
| 00:37.42 | mindjuju | and have the Sim police or Sim FBI come hunt you down |
| 00:38.57 | dataw0lf | sounds like real life, I don't know why people play that. |
| 00:39.57 | beandog | theres that other one, called Second Life |
| 00:39.57 | beandog | I think their tagline is "Even more boring than Sims" |
| 00:39.57 | herlo | as in the user agent... |
| 00:39.57 | beandog | oh |
| 00:39.57 | mindjuju | i've heard of second life |
| 00:39.57 | beandog | user agent |
| 00:40.02 | mindjuju | Oracle had a staff meeting in second life |
| 00:40.02 | beandog | I was wondering wtc you were takling about |
| 00:40.18 | beandog | Oracle is just a PR machine anyway, as far as I can tell. |
| 00:40.26 | herlo | beandog: yeah, I realized I'd missed that right after I hit enter |
| 00:40.32 | beandog | herlo: yah, Im sure there is. |
| 00:40.48 | herlo | beandog: do you knwo what it is? |
| 00:40.50 | beandog | -U no workie? |
| 00:41.07 | herlo | beandog: nope, but it might depend on the exact string, which is why I am curious... |
| 00:41.17 | herlo | I tried several useragent strings, no luck |
| 00:41.18 | beandog | what command you using |
| 00:41.48 | herlo | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:42.03 | herlo | I tried it with smaller UA strings as well |
| 00:42.23 | beandog | try "" |
| 00:42.28 | beandog | instead of '' |
| 00:42.40 | beandog | shouldnt make a difference, but thats what the man example uses. |
| 00:42.41 | beandog | -_- |
| 00:42.50 | beandog | Specifying empty user agent with --user-agent="" instructs Wget not |
| 00:42.50 | beandog | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:43.29 | herlo | beandog: tried that too |
| 00:44.12 | beandog | hmm, dunno |
| 00:55.09 | herlo | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:55.31 | beandog | I would try it on a local http setup, tail the logs, see if its actually working |
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| 01:23.54 | thebigdog | herlo wget -ff2 |
| 01:33.10 | herlo | thebigdog: /me tries that |
| 01:33.18 | thebigdog | lol |
| 01:34.27 | thebigdog | im sure you where |
| 01:35.11 | macnewbold | ~bonk thebigdog for herlo |
| 01:35.20 | jbot | ACTION bonks thebigdog for herlo over the head |
| 01:35.25 | thebigdog | ~whip macnewbold |
| 01:35.26 | jbot | ACTION takes macnewbold outside to be thoroughly whipped by thebigdog |
| 01:35.33 | herlo | ~poo thebigdog |
| 01:35.34 | jbot | ACTION summons a troop of flying monkeys to fling their poo at thebigdog |
| 01:35.35 | macnewbold | ~lart thebigdog |
| 01:35.44 | thebigdog | ol |
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| 01:35.58 | thebigdog | lol |
| 01:36.02 | thebigdog | now he will kick me |
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| 01:36.19 | thebigdog | even better |
| 01:36.31 | thebigdog | ouch |
| 01:36.57 | macnewbold | herlo: you okay? |
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| 01:38.43 | macnewbold | if he'll be good |
| 02:19.01 | beandog | does anyone know a way to detect non-latin1 encoding in a text |
| 02:19.19 | beandog | kate is whining because there are unicode chars somewhere. |
| 02:25.25 | mindjuju | hmmm... new IIS to be an Apache Killer? |
| 02:25.47 | macnewbold | oh please |
| 02:25.50 | mindjuju | http://apcstart.com/4108/is_longhorns_iis_an_apache_killer |
| 02:26.02 | beandog | why not |
| 02:26.04 | mindjuju | that's not me, that's the name of the article! |
| 02:26.05 | beandog | it kills everything else |
| 02:26.14 | mindjuju | that's funny |
| 02:26.21 | macnewbold | yeah, you better not be serious |
| 02:26.31 | beandog | I mean as in pages, scripts |
| 02:26.31 | beandog | gah. |
| 02:26.41 | mindjuju | yeah, I got it |
| 02:26.43 | beandog | nobody gets my humor. |
| 02:26.46 | beandog | which is probably a good thing |
| 02:27.03 | beandog | I can only speak from experience about IIS 5. It sucks. |
| 02:27.21 | beandog | Apache on the same Windows box was much faster. |
| 02:27.27 | mindjuju | IIS 5 does suck, and IIS 5.1 was a stupid upgrade that broke more apps that fixed problems |
| 02:27.48 | mindjuju | broke more aps than fixed problems, i mean |
| 02:27.59 | beandog | This means less for hackers to attack, less to patch and less to manage. Score one for IIS. |
| 02:28.06 | beandog | thats in his opening paragraph. |
| 02:28.07 | beandog | oh my. |
| 02:28.15 | beandog | new features -- less hacker-worrisome! yay! |
| 02:28.20 | beandog | holy cow. |
| 02:28.54 | mindjuju | its funny to see the comments at the bottom |
| 02:29.01 | beandog | "Config is now done in cleartext XML files." |
| 02:29.04 | mindjuju | huge war between LAMP and Windows |
| 02:29.23 | beandog | well, I guess XML wasnt around then. |
| 02:29.30 | beandog | but storing configs in text files sure goes back a long way, Im sure. |
| 02:30.00 | beandog | As in other areas of Longhorn Server, all tasks that can be done through the GUI can also be done at the command line -- a major advantage that has previously given Linux an upper-hand over Windows from a remote-admin perspective. |
| 02:30.12 | mindjuju | yup |
| 02:30.16 | beandog | Except that you still have to access it remotely with a gui, so that doesnt help much does it? |
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| 02:31.30 | macnewbold | that article is funny, especially the comments at the bottom |
| 02:31.39 | beandog | This is the best one |
| 02:31.39 | macnewbold | MS fanbois vs linux guys |
| 02:31.43 | beandog | "For the record, I personally manage 12 RHEL servers running LAMP and 4 Windows 2003 ones running WIMP (amongst the occasional ASP-related site) - and in general, I have just as many difficulties with LAMP as I do WIMP, if not more." |
| 02:31.53 | beandog | RHEL ... eek |
| 02:31.56 | beandog | :) |
| 02:31.58 | mindjuju | yeah, bottom comments are real funny |
| 02:33.10 | beandog | theres nothing quite so entertaining as a fanboy flamefest. |
| 02:33.18 | beandog | well, for a few minutes anyway. |
| 02:33.22 | mindjuju | yeah |
| 02:34.37 | beandog | as if anyone is going to convince anyone else in comment #52 of some obscure article anyway :) |
| 02:37.04 | mindjuju | that's funny. the http://delorean.com/dmcstore/onlinestore-search.asp has a product called flux capacitor for $6000 |
| 02:37.09 | mindjuju | k, i'd better get back to work so i can get out of here |
| 02:37.11 | beandog | me too. |
| 02:37.40 | mindjuju | me installs IIS on beandog's webserver |
| 02:37.40 | beandog | mindjuju: are you running gentoo still? |
| 02:37.47 | beandog | eek! |
| 02:37.50 | mindjuju | nope, ubuntu |
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| 16:23.07 | macnewbold | ~cookie |
| 16:26.52 | Utah_Dave | macnewbold: did you get your raid working correctly? |
| 16:29.25 | jsmith | RAID = "Really messed up" array of inexpensive disks... |
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| 16:35.30 | macnewbold | Yes, I did... it turned out that it was a problem due to some huge 3 finds and a du all trying to run at once, on top of the other stuff I was working on (running a backup). |
| 16:36.14 | macnewbold | it performs pretty well when all the rest of that isn't going on. I'm a little disappointed that the top speed is only about 100MB/sec, but that will have to do. That's faster than the network can suck data from the other machines anyway, so it should do just fine. |
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| 16:40.41 | dataw0lf | got some advice to ask of you guys. |
| 16:40.54 | dataw0lf | I'm adding some form field tracking to a couple of our sites, with javascript |
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| 16:41.43 | dataw0lf | our form elements are generated from a PHP class that extracts db info and fills the form elements with these ( we hold all of our form elements in a database ) |
| 16:41.53 | dataw0lf | I need to add an onClick function to each of these form elements |
| 16:41.55 | dataw0lf | should I |
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| 16:42.00 | dataw0lf | post process with javascript? |
| 16:42.05 | dataw0lf | or do it inside the PHP class? |
| 16:42.27 | dataw0lf | I'm thinking post process just to keep it uncoupled |
| 16:42.35 | dataw0lf | but we could be using this for a long time |
| 16:42.56 | dataw0lf | g'morning, by the way |
| 16:43.01 | timinator | morning |
| 16:43.25 | dataw0lf | sup tim |
| 16:43.30 | timinator | nada |
| 16:43.52 | timinator | kicken ass, taken names, timinator style |
| 16:44.15 | timinator | :) |
| 16:44.59 | timinator | I only like to use JS when I HAVE to |
| 16:45.21 | thebigdog | dataw0lf what are the onclicks for? |
| 16:45.25 | dataw0lf | well, I'm using JavaScript to do the form field tracking, so a post process modification to add it might make sense |
| 16:45.32 | dataw0lf | thebigdog: form field drop off |
| 16:45.50 | dataw0lf | find out exactly where a visitor stops inputting on a form |
| 16:45.50 | timinator | but I have the same setup, and use JS to populate dropdown 2 with choices based off what was selected in dropdown 1 |
| 16:46.54 | dataw0lf | thebigdog: the designers wanted the ability to do so, so I wrote up a quick AJAX solution |
| 16:47.15 | dataw0lf | I love writing JavaScript |
| 16:47.32 | dataw0lf | I've gotten past the uneducated hatred and realized it's an excellent language |
| 16:47.41 | thebigdog | im not following what you are trying to do...you want to save the position in the form that a user leaves off on? |
| 16:47.57 | dataw0lf | thebigdog: yes, it already works, I just need to add the onClicks |
| 16:48.10 | dataw0lf | to a form that's created in PHP |
| 16:48.32 | thebigdog | and the form fields are stored in a database? |
| 16:49.23 | dataw0lf | yes |
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| 17:20.28 | dataw0lf | any ideas? |
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| 19:12.18 | macnewbold | ~howdy |
| 19:12.19 | jbot | howdy right back at ya'! |
| 19:24.19 | burnin | anyone using an open source system administration tool for linux servers? |
| 19:25.27 | burnin | ah, bsd type license, cool |
| 19:58.02 | burnin | tierra, do you have a web interface? :) |
| 19:58.24 | burnin | http://webmin.tierra.net:10000/ |
| 19:58.30 | tierra | sometimes I pretend to access one in my head |
| 19:59.04 | tierra | ssh root@mydomain.com :) |
| 19:59.58 | beandog | lol |
| 20:28.47 | beandog | gah. |
| 20:28.54 | beandog | is there someway to do align='left' in CSS for an image? |
| 20:30.06 | thebigdog | yeah |
| 20:31.20 | thebigdog | i do it when i set the image as part of the background |
| 20:32.05 | _psychic_ | or float it |
| 20:35.07 | beandog | huh? |
| 20:35.24 | _psychic_ | float:left |
| 20:36.05 | beandog | buh. thank you _psychic_ |
| 20:36.13 | beandog | I never would have seen that on my ref sheet |
| 20:36.29 | _psychic_ | yeah np |
| 20:36.31 | beandog | heh |
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| 21:29.28 | thebigdog | i think the workshop should cover css and forget the php :) |
| 21:31.29 | macnewbold | ha |
| 21:34.05 | bradym | i'd be all for a css workshop |
| 21:35.02 | bradym | assuming, of course, that it was a workshop and not a debate ;) |
| 21:38.56 | _psychic_ | you'd have to make people sign waivers as they come in. |
| 21:39.18 | thebigdog | it will be held down in slc in the ocatagon |
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| 22:39.30 | mindjuju | ~rlart |
| 22:39.47 | wps | get away from me you terd |
| 22:39.54 | mindjuju | heh |
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| 22:45.44 | macnewbold | ~rlart |
| 22:50.57 | Utah_Dave | ~rlart |
| 23:04.38 | dataw0lf | THE dance |
| 23:04.42 | dataw0lf | niiiiga |
| 23:14.36 | olds | the new shins album is a++ |
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| 23:27.52 | dataw0lf | olds: the new Shins album ROCKS |
| 23:44.34 | olds | would download again a++ |
| 23:44.50 | mindjuju | heh |
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