| 00:03.32 | dataw0lf | you could use \w\D |
| 00:03.40 | dataw0lf | which would match alphanumeric, and then negate numeric |
| 00:10.49 | macnewbold | wouldn't that mean a word char followed by a non-digit? |
| 00:11.16 | macnewbold | or would [\w\D] do that? actually, no that probably would do either alphanumeric or a non-digit |
| 00:12.39 | beandog | yes, it would be a an alphanumeric then a non-digit |
| 00:12.47 | beandog | I just used [A-Za-z] :) |
| 00:12.50 | beandog | problem solved. |
| 00:53.14 | macnewbold | sweet |
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| 04:44.13 | Utah_Dave | anyone around? |
| 04:46.37 | herlo | Utah_Dave: me |
| 04:46.43 | Utah_Dave | does anyone know if there are any speed differences between the different looping mechanisms? Like 'for', 'while' , etc? |
| 04:46.44 | herlo | Utah_Dave: what's up |
| 04:46.55 | herlo | I would say yes |
| 04:47.03 | Utah_Dave | do you know anything about that? I've search around a little and haven't found much |
| 04:47.12 | herlo | but each has there reasons for being used... |
| 04:47.23 | herlo | you could run timing scripts to test similar stuff out.. |
| 04:47.40 | herlo | I think php has a method that will time the execution for you |
| 04:48.34 | herlo | Utah_Dave: as far as details, no I don't know |
| 04:48.35 | Utah_Dave | ok, I may try timing it. |
| 04:48.52 | herlo | but because you usually don't do a while on something that would be better with a for, but I guess they "could" be interchangeable |
| 04:53.17 | herlo | Utah_Dave: do you use digg at all? |
| 04:53.32 | Utah_Dave | I read it everyday |
| 04:53.40 | Utah_Dave | too often actually :) |
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| 12:40.20 | deepz | guys i have installed php5.2.0 in fc4 |
| 12:40.38 | deepz | no i want to add an extension sockets.so extension |
| 12:40.44 | deepz | hopw do i do it |
| 12:41.08 | deepz | i dont want to re compile |
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| 14:59.06 | timinator | morning ladies |
| 14:59.08 | timinator | :) |
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| 15:43.31 | thebigdog | who is unum? |
| 15:43.47 | wps | ~unum |
| 15:44.02 | wps | jbot, unum is 70.89.247.221 |
| 15:44.03 | jbot | wps: okay |
| 15:44.35 | wps | jbot, unum is also perhaps Dustin or Kyle |
| 15:44.37 | jbot | wps: okay |
| 15:45.25 | drip | morning everyone |
| 15:45.38 | Utah_Dave | morning |
| 15:46.36 | thebigdog | ~morning |
| 15:46.38 | jbot | Good morning! |
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| 15:48.11 | beandog | mo'nin |
| 15:48.55 | dataw0lf | g'morning |
| 15:50.05 | timinator | morning |
| 15:53.43 | thebigdog | morning |
| 15:53.44 | thebigdog | morning |
| 15:53.59 | thebigdog | in cased i missed anyone...morning |
| 15:55.37 | drip | of course.. now it's mid-morning |
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| 16:00.13 | dataw0lf | http://www.stderr.ws/dump/lol.txt |
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| 16:03.01 | _psychic_ | lol |
| 16:03.17 | _psychic_ | that's one for bash.or |
| 16:03.19 | _psychic_ | &org |
| 16:03.37 | dataw0lf | yea, bunch of people have submitted it. |
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| 16:16.00 | _psychic_ | holy crap i know one of the people quoted in bash.org |
| 16:31.31 | Utah_Dave | dataw0lf: that's hilarious |
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| 16:58.38 | swb | what are your php book recommendations... for intermediate level? |
| 16:58.44 | swb | do you have a favorite php book? |
| 17:01.46 | _psychic__ | Advanced PHP Programming |
| 17:02.08 | _psychic__ | (it has some intermediate to advanced stuff) |
| 17:02.44 | swb | cool, I'll check it out |
| 17:12.37 | macnewbold | swb: if that's the Schlossnagle one, I've got a copy here at my office if you want to borrow it or something |
| 17:13.12 | swb | thanks Mac, I may take you up on that |
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| 17:14.45 | thebigdog | swb we might have a copy for the group too |
| 17:14.54 | thebigdog | check with wps and i will check at home too |
| 17:15.17 | thebigdog | if we got it in the group i would rather you use/have that then you buying a copy |
| 17:15.33 | swb | thbigdog, what's your fav php book? |
| 17:15.39 | thebigdog | that one |
| 17:15.41 | swb | s/thbigdog/thebigdog/ |
| 17:16.04 | swb | macnewbold, is Advanced PHP Programming your fav php book? |
| 17:16.25 | _psychic__ | macnewbold: you definitely have it in your office, cause I couldn't spell his last name unless I had it right next to me. |
| 17:16.58 | thebigdog | swb core makes a nice one too |
| 17:17.49 | thebigdog | core php programming |
| 17:19.18 | macnewbold | swb: honestly, I haven't really even read it |
| 17:19.29 | macnewbold | we bought some books before we hired someone who didn't speak php yet, just in case, |
| 17:19.33 | macnewbold | but haven't really needed to use them |
| 17:19.40 | macnewbold | it was highly reviewed, which was why I bought it |
| 17:19.50 | macnewbold | _psychic__: no doubt... I had to check 3 times to do it right |
| 17:19.59 | thebigdog | swb to be honest there is not many good adv or intermediate php books imho |
| 17:20.36 | _psychic__ | macnewbold: I wonder if he'd get more exposure if he used a pen name. |
| 17:23.37 | swb | so, for someone who knows *some* php, but would like to go back and really learn what they're talking about... |
| 17:23.44 | swb | experience is better than a book? |
| 17:24.54 | thebigdog | y |
| 17:25.08 | thebigdog | but you can compliment exp with a book |
| 17:25.09 | swb | anyway, after listening to nacnewbold's talk on database design and reading/browsing my new MySQL book lately, I've realized I haven't built the best databases or sql in the past |
| 17:25.33 | thebigdog | i tend to really look for books that have good design and theory |
| 17:26.02 | swb | so, I think maybe I need to go back and get a better foundation for php too |
| 17:26.46 | swb | I like to judge a book by the author bio, the voice in the book, and online ratings/reviews (not to mention the #uphpu stamp of approval) |
| 17:27.15 | thebigdog | rating/reviews are ok |
| 17:27.33 | thebigdog | however, one thing that i like to note is that people are on different levels |
| 17:27.45 | thebigdog | for example if you asked me which database book i would recommend |
| 17:27.51 | swb | wps, you'll like this quote: Q: What qalifies as good design? A: Being able to justify every pixel. |
| 17:27.52 | thebigdog | it might not be the best one for you |
| 17:28.01 | wps | nice |
| 17:28.24 | swb | thebigdog, you're so right, that's why I think it's so tough for a beginner to pick out a good book sometimes |
| 17:28.45 | swb | (but I also like to know what other people are reading) |
| 17:28.56 | thebigdog | most of the books that i look at now are from colleges |
| 17:29.08 | swb | from colleges? |
| 17:29.10 | thebigdog | i need more meat |
| 17:29.18 | thebigdog | yeah i look at text books now |
| 17:38.22 | dataw0lf | PHP In a Nutshell++ |
| 17:39.14 | swb | dataw0lf, your fav or a good book for a beginner/intermediate? |
| 17:39.32 | dataw0lf | I think it's good for right between beginner and intermediate |
| 17:39.41 | jsmith | Advanced PHP Design Patterns for Dummies! |
| 17:40.23 | thebigdog | see i would recommend gang of 4 design patterms |
| 17:41.08 | dataw0lf | commie |
| 17:45.46 | thebigdog | if i could sum up dw with one song - c.o.c. over me |
| 17:48.25 | dataw0lf | I always thought of myself as a Burt Bacharach song |
| 17:49.41 | thebigdog | but on the flip side i can think of you as Rev. Horton Heat - bails of cocaine |
| 17:49.53 | thebigdog | just making money |
| 17:51.15 | thebigdog | but w/ burt i think you are "What's up pussycat?" |
| 17:51.30 | thebigdog | i really hate that song :) |
| 17:53.48 | timinator | I just bought the video to "White 'n Nerdy" last week |
| 17:53.50 | timinator | LOL |
| 17:59.35 | beandog | is there a way to get background color hover working in IE, without resorting to Javascript? |
| 17:59.58 | wps | it works with anchors |
| 18:00.12 | macnewbold | right, the background of the <a> tag area will change |
| 18:00.14 | macnewbold | on a hover |
| 18:00.17 | macnewbold | just like foreground |
| 18:00.33 | macnewbold | but if you need it to change the bg of a div or table cell, you've got to use js to make it work in IE |
| 18:00.39 | beandog | yah, table cell. |
| 18:00.40 | beandog | lame. |
| 18:01.00 | wps | you can set an anchor to be a block level element though |
| 18:01.01 | macnewbold | yep, that's MSIE |
| 18:01.06 | macnewbold | yes, that's true |
| 18:01.07 | wps | and give it a width and height |
| 18:01.09 | macnewbold | display: block; |
| 18:01.12 | macnewbold | fill the cell with it |
| 18:01.14 | macnewbold | and voila |
| 18:01.14 | wps | if you need a large area to have a hover |
| 18:01.18 | macnewbold | good point, wps |
| 18:01.50 | beandog | wps: how do you do that? |
| 18:02.10 | wps | a { display: block; width: 100px; height: 100px } |
| 18:02.18 | wps | a:hover { background-color: pink } |
| 18:02.33 | beandog | ponies!!1 |
| 18:02.35 | beandog | :) |
| 18:02.45 | beandog | thanks wade |
| 18:02.52 | beandog | lemme try that suckah |
| 18:03.57 | beandog | wait a minute, what if the table cells arent a fixed width and height? |
| 18:04.41 | wps | height's a problem, but block elements should fill their parents space horizontally |
| 18:04.46 | beandog | ok |
| 18:04.52 | beandog | height is fixed, anyway |
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| 18:26.26 | swb | hey, check this out: http://hudzilla.org/phpwiki/ |
| 18:32.02 | fungus | Nice. |
| 18:34.30 | beandog | my stupid xchat open link doesnt work |
| 18:34.30 | beandog | :C |
| 18:38.13 | beandog | wps: that worked, thanks man |
| 18:40.02 | wps | you're welcome |
| 18:41.54 | thebigdog | swb you can add that as a link to uphpu.com |
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| 19:04.17 | swb | um, where are the links exactly on uphpu.org? |
| 19:21.47 | macnewbold | hehe |
| 19:21.49 | macnewbold | ask wps |
| 19:21.54 | macnewbold | I can't ever find them either |
| 19:23.16 | thebigdog | great no links |
| 19:27.09 | thebigdog | swb we also have the advanced php programming book available from the library |
| 19:27.14 | thebigdog | http://uphpu.org/books/library/ |
| 19:27.29 | thebigdog | dataw0lf, did you ever get your book from the library |
| 19:27.37 | thebigdog | lol...it has been there for awhile i think |
| 19:27.45 | dataw0lf | dang it no |
| 19:28.03 | thebigdog | i got that for you |
| 19:28.12 | dataw0lf | you're awesome |
| 19:28.24 | thebigdog | even has your name on it |
| 19:28.29 | dataw0lf | I see this :) |
| 19:28.58 | thebigdog | i think the complete freebsd got burned up though |
| 19:39.02 | fungus | burned up?? :( |
| 19:45.01 | thebigdog | yeah...we used it to get wps's car unstuck |
| 19:45.33 | dataw0lf | good use of it |
| 19:45.39 | thebigdog | very good |
| 19:46.14 | fungus | but getting wps's car unstuck was probably more important. |
| 19:47.32 | thebigdog | yeah...we could spare that book |
| 19:47.37 | Black_Chaos | was it this Complete FreeBSD? http://www.lemis.com/grog/Documentation/CFBSD/ |
| 19:48.10 | thebigdog | you might need to check the publishers website...im not sure |
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| 19:59.54 | swb | just discovered a new song I love: Nothing Left to Lose |
| 20:00.03 | swb | u guys know Matt Kearney? |
| 20:00.09 | swb | I like |
| 20:09.55 | synic | swb: I dig that song. |
| 20:10.11 | swb | :) |
| 20:10.25 | swb | I downloaded it cuz I heard it on a commercial, heh |
| 20:10.31 | synic | brb |
| 20:18.49 | dataw0lf | I don't like the christian music |
| 20:19.10 | swb | okay... |
| 20:23.45 | timinator | DW likes "Fergalicious" |
| 20:23.52 | timinator | :) |
| 20:26.09 | dataw0lf | ? |
| 20:29.46 | dataw0lf | if an artist's message conflicts with my personal beliefs, I'm not going to listen to em. I'm sure many of you feel the same way. |
| 20:30.45 | fungus | I bought an album by The Concretes just because I heard "Say Something New" on a Target commercial. |
| 20:33.32 | swb | okay, but I like the one song a lot "Nothing Left to Lose" and I like the music style |
| 20:35.01 | dataw0lf | I <3 jack johnson |
| 20:35.18 | swb | :) |
| 20:37.20 | swb | I <3 Californication, good song |
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| 20:38.25 | dataw0lf | yea, RHCP is an exxxcellent band |
| 20:47.16 | synic | bah, RHCP used to be good |
| 20:48.11 | synic | California is not a remnant of that |
| 20:48.24 | synic | ... er, you know what I mean. |
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| 21:25.05 | olds | I don't know if someone else pointed it out, but prototype has some official documentation now |
| 21:25.12 | olds | with a nice API reference |
| 21:25.27 | olds | http://prototypejs.org/api/ |
| 21:46.51 | beandog | hmm |
| 21:46.57 | beandog | is there a way to change the # of px between lines |
| 21:47.05 | beandog | not using <br /> mind you |
| 21:47.18 | beandog | but just, space stuff apart a bit more |
| 21:52.18 | macnewbold | beandog: see line-spacing in css |
| 21:52.57 | beandog | ko |
| 21:52.58 | beandog | ok |
| 21:55.03 | beandog | that is really cool |
| 22:01.21 | dataw0lf | :) |
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| 23:07.58 | dataw0lf | mmm cocktail friday at work |
| 23:14.36 | timinator | that is a relaxed work environment, DW |
| 23:14.48 | timinator | *is* |
| 23:15.10 | swb | the cocktails are in their coffee mugs... |
| 23:15.19 | swb | j/k |
| 23:16.07 | timinator | LOL |
| 23:16.11 | timinator | as a programmer |
| 23:16.20 | dataw0lf | I worked at Hurrah's for two weeks as their senior security admin |
| 23:16.34 | dataw0lf | but it wasn't as fun as I thought it'd be, so I quit and came here :) |
| 23:16.45 | timinator | if($user=="DW") { $cash=99999999; } |
| 23:16.52 | swb | lol |
| 23:16.53 | dataw0lf | I mean, telling me not to drink in a Casino? GIMME A BREAK |
| 23:17.04 | dataw0lf | timinator: I can count cards, I don't need no slot hackery trick |
| 23:17.06 | dataw0lf | s* |
| 23:17.56 | dataw0lf | granted, on Fridays I lose as much as I win on Saturdays, because on Fridays I drink a lot. |
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| 23:18.36 | dataw0lf | but on Fridays I just play the minimum 5 dollar bet single deck blackjack table, whilst on Saturdays, I play on the 50 dollar minimum bet single deck blackjack table |
| 23:18.55 | macnewbold | ~seen mindjuju |
| 23:19.10 | jbot | mindjuju <n=mindjuju@65-121-75-195.dia.static.qwest.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #uphpu, 1d 3h 3m 23s ago, saying: 'k'. |
| 23:19.10 | dataw0lf | a 50 dollar minimum bet is a good incentive to stay sober |
| 23:20.02 | dataw0lf | dang, what happened to mindjuju? |
| 23:20.06 | dataw0lf | he still sick? |
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