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| 03:42.49 | beandog | http://spaceparanoids.org/gentoo/gpnl/ |
| 03:42.52 | beandog | huzzah for php. :) |
| 03:43.35 | atoponce | beandog: nice! |
| 03:43.51 | beandog | :D |
| 03:43.59 | beandog | fun little project |
| 03:44.30 | atoponce | bash scripting here... nothing difficult though :( |
| 03:45.33 | beandog | bash is great |
| 03:45.38 | beandog | The more I get into it, the more I totally love it. |
| 03:45.43 | beandog | its incredible all the stuff you can do |
| 03:45.47 | atoponce | creating a "desktop cam" for my blog... :) |
| 03:45.57 | beandog | oh really? right on :D |
| 03:46.03 | atoponce | yeah. perl and bash scripting are a lot of fun |
| 03:46.06 | beandog | how far along are you? |
| 03:46.29 | atoponce | i have the script finished, just creating the page to refresh every 90 sec |
| 03:46.38 | atoponce | would it be easier with php, or javascript? |
| 03:46.53 | atoponce | s/90/30/ |
| 03:46.54 | beandog | couldnt you just send a header thing |
| 03:47.04 | beandog | http-equiv: refresh 30 |
| 03:47.07 | beandog | or whatever it is. |
| 03:47.18 | atoponce | i'd rather not, then every page on the site would refresh |
| 03:47.22 | beandog | ah. |
| 03:47.25 | beandog | hmm. |
| 03:47.29 | beandog | dunno. -_- |
| 03:47.40 | atoponce | i think i'll go after javascript |
| 03:47.48 | beandog | that'd probably be simplest |
| 03:49.50 | atoponce | yeah |
| 04:02.11 | burnin | a little ajax and only the image will be updated |
| 04:04.41 | atoponce | i don't even need ajax. simple javascript can handle it nicely |
| 04:08.10 | beandog | oh did you say image or page? |
| 04:08.15 | beandog | er, did you mean |
| 04:08.16 | beandog | wahteve.r |
| 04:08.18 | beandog | aslkfask;df |
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| 04:13.56 | atoponce | beandog: to save bandwidth, just the image is all i really need to reload |
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| 05:38.05 | beandog | oh sweet |
| 05:38.09 | beandog | I can get speakeasy at my new place |
| 05:41.49 | Utah_Dave | in utah? |
| 05:45.57 | beandog | slc |
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| 08:08.10 | el_gaucho | srry bro |
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| 16:33.26 | macnewbold | ~morning everyone |
| 16:33.36 | jbot | ACTION bends space and time, trapping everyone in a universe of eternal monday mornings |
| 16:33.38 | timinator | morning mac |
| 16:35.38 | macnewbold | howdy timinator |
| 16:36.14 | macnewbold | wow, _psychic_ is developing a multiple personality disorder |
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| 16:41.18 | drip | good mornin' on ya |
| 16:41.37 | Utah_Dave | mornin |
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| 16:43.58 | beandog | lo |
| 16:44.30 | _psychic__ | and behold |
| 16:44.42 | beandog | there was a bean |
| 16:44.51 | _psychic__ | and the bean was good |
| 16:44.58 | beandog | and fruitful |
| 16:45.19 | _psychic__ | And the bean began yet another bean |
| 16:46.09 | beandog | and there were many beans in the land |
| 16:55.50 | synic | wherefore, the land had been prepared rightly, and was rich with nutrients |
| 16:58.35 | beandog | and the villagers rejoiced |
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| 17:36.47 | bigdog_ut | roll call |
| 17:36.53 | macnewbold | here |
| 17:37.43 | wps | cinnamon! |
| 17:38.50 | bigdog_ut | i could go for one of those and a nice hot cup of chocolate |
| 17:38.57 | bigdog_ut | or mate!!!! |
| 17:39.00 | bigdog_ut | :) |
| 17:47.10 | atoponce | mate... mmmm... |
| 17:47.18 | atoponce | haven't had mate in a while... |
| 17:47.29 | timinator | man, the internet's slow today! |
| 17:47.36 | beandog | yes, it is. |
| 17:47.47 | atoponce | tubes clogged? |
| 17:47.48 | beandog | probably spam. |
| 17:47.54 | wps | mine's slow too |
| 17:47.56 | wps | what's up? |
| 17:48.02 | timinator | cyber monday |
| 17:48.21 | timinator | I guess this is the busiest online day of the year |
| 17:48.51 | timinator | everybody's back to work and are buying Christmas gifts online |
| 17:49.01 | timinator | or taking care of Holiday things online |
| 17:49.22 | timinator | that's what one of my webserver hosts just told me |
| 17:49.29 | timinator | nice, huh |
| 17:50.18 | beandog | well, while youre shopping, I want Justice Leage Unlimited on DVD. |
| 17:51.24 | herlo | And I'll take Serenity on HD-DVD along with an HD-DVD player |
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| 18:05.45 | timinator | you don't want an HD player now.... |
| 18:05.53 | timinator | wait till they stop interlacing images |
| 18:09.18 | wps | interlacing? |
| 18:09.41 | timinator | it's where they take out every other line |
| 18:10.00 | timinator | so that they can "double" the pixels w/o increasing their bandwidth |
| 18:10.11 | timinator | they take out the odd lines on one frame |
| 18:10.16 | timinator | then the even on the other |
| 18:10.23 | timinator | so that it tricks your eye |
| 18:10.47 | timinator | the alternative is called progressive scan |
| 18:11.19 | timinator | here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interlace |
| 18:12.16 | wps | yeah, I know about progressive scan |
| 18:12.20 | wps | that's what my DVD player is |
| 18:12.26 | wps | what are you saying about HD players though? |
| 18:12.29 | wps | that they do interlacing? |
| 18:13.30 | fungus | timinator: HD players don't always interlace their images. |
| 18:13.40 | fungus | It depends on the resolution you use. |
| 18:13.48 | fungus | 720i vs 720p |
| 18:13.57 | fungus | 1080i vs 1080p |
| 18:14.18 | wps | if an HD DVD player is supposed to be better then a normal DVD player… and today's nice DVD players are progressive scan, why would HD DVD players do anything less? |
| 18:16.04 | beandog | The quality is forcibly downgraded by something we like to call Hollywood. |
| 18:16.15 | timinator | yep |
| 18:16.26 | beandog | And it screwed on tight by DRM. |
| 18:16.32 | wps | huh? |
| 18:16.41 | beandog | Your picture could look a lot nicer |
| 18:16.50 | beandog | But it doesnt look as nice as it could. |
| 18:17.01 | beandog | Because of firmware in the DVD players that downgrade the quality. |
| 18:17.22 | timinator | they'll bump it up a bit soon.... at a minimal price difference |
| 18:17.23 | beandog | Well, let me rephrase that. |
| 18:17.32 | beandog | Your MPAA movies could look a lot nicer. |
| 18:17.33 | timinator | but they're trying to bump sales twice |
| 18:18.00 | atoponce | fungus: is there a 1080p resolution? i thought 1080i was as high as it got so far.. |
| 18:18.31 | wps | so is it just interlace vs. progressive on HD DVD players… just as it was on normal DVD players? |
| 18:18.42 | atoponce | of course, your image will only look as good as your tv... |
| 18:19.10 | atoponce | if your tv doesn't support prgressive scan, then your getting an interlaced image anyway |
| 18:19.14 | timinator | wps: I don't have TV or HD anything |
| 18:19.18 | timinator | couldn't tell ya |
| 18:20.07 | atoponce | i used to be in this industry for 4 years. there is a lot of misconceptions out there about hd versus digital |
| 18:20.13 | atoponce | yes. there is a difference. :) |
| 18:20.47 | beandog | In addition, HD DVD players must follow AACS guidelines pertaining to outputs over analog connections. This is set by a flag called the Image Constraint Token (ICT), which restricts the resolution for analog outputs without HDCP to 960?540. |
| 18:20.55 | beandog | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hddvd#Digital_Rights_Management |
| 18:21.16 | wps | I'm just trying to understand why an HD DVD player would output anything less then progressive scan |
| 18:21.18 | atoponce | beandog: luckily, with ieee 1394 (firewire), there are options |
| 18:21.18 | wps | seems stupid |
| 18:21.33 | atoponce | wps: because your tv may not support it |
| 18:21.34 | wps | why would an HD DVD player do interlaced? |
| 18:21.37 | fungus | wps he was wrong. |
| 18:21.48 | fungus | HD DVD can output progressive |
| 18:22.02 | beandog | atoponce: really? cool. Im not planning on upgrading my hardware anytime soon. |
| 18:22.05 | atoponce | most tv's on the market right are *just* interlaced |
| 18:22.14 | atoponce | something around 88%, iirc |
| 18:22.42 | fungus | that is wrong too |
| 18:22.51 | fungus | most TVs can do 720p |
| 18:22.54 | atoponce | what is wrong? |
| 18:23.02 | fungus | maybe only up to 1080i |
| 18:23.13 | fungus | Think of it as a sliding scale |
| 18:23.27 | fungus | 720i -> 720p -> 1080i -> 1080p |
| 18:23.50 | fungus | A TV that supports a resolution will also support the lower resolutions as well |
| 18:24.05 | atoponce | fungus: yes. most can. but the market saturation currently is not taking advantage of it. |
| 18:24.13 | timinator | I'm just saying they'll roll out 1080p soon for a minimal $$ difference.... so perhaps my comment should've been for the TV rather than the DVD player |
| 18:24.29 | atoponce | most sets in households in the U.S. cannot handle a digital signal |
| 18:24.31 | tierra | the usage of interlaced video on HDTV, HD-DVD, and future Blu-Ray devices isn't because of "Hollywood"... decoding MPEG4 or H264 (which is being used on Blu-Ray and HD-DVD) video at those high resolution takes a _lot_ of processing power... the interlaced options were kept because of lack of bandwidth to push 1080p video as well as a lack of CPU power for some players... |
| 18:24.34 | fungus | There are a whole lot of 720p TVs |
| 18:24.36 | atoponce | only 12% can as of mid-2005 |
| 18:24.37 | fungus | Tons of them |
| 18:25.03 | atoponce | sure. but that doesn't mean your grandma, or cousin, or best friend has one |
| 18:25.46 | atoponce | 720p in tv sets is still new compared to how long tv signals have been broadcasting |
| 18:26.04 | fungus | The one thing you guys are right about is that the current HD DVD players only support *up-to* 1080i |
| 18:26.11 | fungus | but it does 720p just fine |
| 18:26.57 | atoponce | current players? no. you can't fit a 2 hour movie on a dual-layer DVD in 1080i or 720p. not without blueray or hddvd |
| 18:27.04 | atoponce | at least not that i'm aware of |
| 18:27.13 | fungus | If you want to talk grandma here, she only has SD and doesn't care about HD. SHe is irrelevant to this discussion |
| 18:27.24 | tierra | he did say HD-DVD |
| 18:27.27 | atoponce | SHE is the current market share |
| 18:27.47 | timinator | if you're talking about my grandma, she's still waiting for her tubes to warm up |
| 18:27.50 | fungus | We are not talking market share, we are talking HD |
| 18:29.00 | atoponce | no. you said "most TVs can do 720p". that is a partial statement. while the new sets at the retail stores for the past 3 or 4 years can, not very many people have them |
| 18:29.34 | fungus | Ok, let me qualify that. Most HD TVs can do 720p |
| 18:29.49 | atoponce | ok. that's better. i'll agree with that. :) |
| 18:30.28 | atoponce | i'm just trying to show wps why most dvd players still are not progressive scan |
| 18:30.38 | fungus | I assumed that since we were talking HD, everyone knew that. But you know what happens when we assume... |
| 18:30.48 | atoponce | it's because the market isn't saturated enough to support the sales |
| 18:30.59 | beandog | well they are so expensive. |
| 18:31.52 | atoponce | that too. why spend $150 for a progressive scan at best buy, when you can get an interlaced player at your local grocery store for $19? |
| 18:32.43 | fungus | Unless you have a TV that can handle the progressive input, a progressive scan DVD player may not give you as much benefit. |
| 18:32.43 | timinator | buying electronics at a grocery store has never made sense to me. |
| 18:32.44 | atoponce | beandog: yeah. you should check out the differences beween DVI and IEEE 1394 in the home theater market. |
| 18:33.06 | beandog | timinator: no kidding. Thats where I get my mp3 players. |
| 18:33.21 | atoponce | hollywood wants to push DVI because of the DRM crap, and one-way control it gives them |
| 18:33.50 | atoponce | IEEE 1394 has options that defeat DRM, which of course make hollywood upset |
| 18:34.05 | timinator | why's that beandog? cause they're cheap there? |
| 18:34.07 | fungus | Actually hollywood is pusing HDMI |
| 18:34.21 | atoponce | so, with that said, if you purchase a bigscreen hd tv, get mitsubishi. they support the IEEE 1394 standard |
| 18:34.39 | atoponce | fungus: that too. both are garbage to the end user |
| 18:35.13 | fungus | 1384 is just Firewire. Mitsubishi makes Firewire TVs??? |
| 18:35.22 | atoponce | fungus: yes. |
| 18:35.27 | fungus | s/1384/1394/ |
| 18:35.27 | tierra | yeah, you can actually use DVI to strip HDMI copy codes, Hollywood has been pushing for HDMI-only connections |
| 18:35.35 | macnewbold | now if I understand right, "progressive scan" is very different as a dvd player term vs an HD / HDTV term |
| 18:35.49 | tierra | go look for TVs with both HDMI and DVI connections... it's not too common |
| 18:35.50 | fungus | DVI doesn't support the DRM. HDMI does. |
| 18:36.21 | atoponce | fungus: cool. didn't know that. that would make sense why they switched in the past few years |
| 18:36.26 | macnewbold | my understanding of progressive scan dvd players is that rather than reading the disc once, errors and all, is that they use more than one lens, reading it progressively (more than once) to lower the errors and improve quality of the output signal |
| 18:37.03 | fungus | macnewbold is right, that is another benefit of the progressive DVD players. |
| 18:37.06 | macnewbold | and therefore that a progressive scan dvd player shows an improvement for discs that don't do well with single-scan, no matter what type of tv you're using, even a non-HD one |
| 18:37.52 | fungus | THere is a difference between progressive scan DVD players and upscaling DVD players. |
| 18:38.49 | beandog | timinator: I was just being satirical. It didnt roll off too well. -_- |
| 18:38.59 | timinator | oh, LOL |
| 18:39.14 | timinator | that's alright, I was trying to be funny w/ the grandma joke |
| 18:39.58 | timinator | it's tough to deadpan a punchline in a text only environment |
| 18:40.02 | beandog | I actually did see a TV ad for mp3 players at Ace Hardware of all places. |
| 18:40.13 | timinator | oh geez |
| 18:40.20 | tierra | P.S. For anyone that didn't know, HDMI is actually DVI with an additional copy-protection layer... you can find HDMI-to-DVI cable converters that will give you the same video quality with any DRM stripped from the signal. |
| 18:40.36 | beandog | tierra: really? I gotta get me one. :D |
| 18:40.53 | timinator | that's cool tierra |
| 18:49.44 | wps | SAN? |
| 18:50.32 | bigdog_ut | ~wiki san |
| 18:50.32 | mindjuju | storage area network, in this case a dual p3 600mhz computer with 800g |
| 18:50.33 | timinator | my wife wants me to buy a new copy of videos for my iPod, instead of converting from my DVDs |
| 18:50.41 | timinator | nice mindjuju |
| 18:51.30 | mindjuju | yeah, all the compys in my house have access, and a couple of devices have been modified to do so |
| 18:51.33 | beandog | timinator: did you tell her that's grounds for divorce? |
| 18:52.05 | beandog | besides, using my handy dandy unfinished dvd ripping queue tools, it doesnt take long to rip them |
| 18:52.08 | beandog | just encode them |
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| 19:18.50 | timinator | sorry beandog, fighting fires |
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| 19:26.40 | mindjuju | *** all the guys pull in their bellies and tuck in their shirts now that swb is here |
| 19:26.53 | swb | lol, hi guys |
| 19:27.12 | mindjuju | sup swb |
| 19:27.22 | macnewbold | sup |
| 19:27.25 | macnewbold | and g'day |
| 19:27.40 | timinator | hello swb |
| 19:27.47 | swb | almost done with xmas shopping |
| 19:27.54 | herlo | swb!! |
| 19:27.59 | timinator | *** no more swearing beandog, swb is here |
| 19:28.01 | mindjuju | already? i haven't even started |
| 19:28.08 | herlo | swb: about time I ran into you |
| 19:28.13 | swb | hi herlo, going to share those links w/ me? |
| 19:28.24 | herlo | yup, which ones were they? |
| 19:28.54 | swb | um, all of them? er, at least main gig and lardwars (or is that online yet?) |
| 19:29.06 | herlo | swb: can you remind me what we were talking about? |
| 19:29.22 | herlo | well, check out these |
| 19:29.25 | swb | open source, is that your main gig? |
| 19:29.26 | mindjuju | oh yeah, lardwars. is that a fps? |
| 19:29.29 | herlo | http://blog.herlo.org/links/ |
| 19:29.31 | herlo | oh |
| 19:29.36 | herlo | http://www.utos.org |
| 19:29.40 | herlo | http://plan.utos.org |
| 19:29.41 | swb | ah, that's it |
| 19:29.48 | herlo | http://www.lardwars.com |
| 19:29.54 | herlo | http://www.herlo.org |
| 19:30.01 | herlo | http://photos.egavas.org |
| 19:30.08 | swb | k, and heres's my fav seo podcast: http://dailysearchcast.com/ |
| 19:31.00 | mindjuju | like one gun would shoot the butter out like nails |
| 19:31.20 | herlo | swb: my links page (the first one I gave you) has some of the podcasts I have listened too. I need to add itconversations... |
| 19:31.32 | mindjuju | the other one could be like a regular revovler. it could be like that bugsy malone movie from way back in the 80s |
| 19:33.16 | timinator | you should have a tommy gun that holds a canister of crisco instead of a round magazine |
| 19:34.00 | herlo | swb: the coolest thing about http://blog.herlo.org/links/ is that it has an RSS feed. |
| 19:34.05 | swb | and, here's a good NPR podcast: http://www.npr.org/rss/podcast/podcast_detail.php?siteId=5183214 |
| 19:34.10 | herlo | mindjuju: timinator: you are hilarious |
| 19:34.28 | herlo | swb: I love 'wait wait' |
| 19:34.33 | swb | RSS feeds rosk, just setup a bunch of job search feeds on google reader |
| 19:34.37 | herlo | oh and radiowest |
| 19:34.47 | herlo | its on my links page |
| 19:34.49 | swb | rosk=rocks |
| 19:34.57 | herlo | swb you can do something like this |
| 19:35.03 | herlo | say you misstype something |
| 19:35.10 | swb | yea |
| 19:35.15 | herlo | s/misstype/mistype/g |
| 19:35.23 | herlo | do a search and replace |
| 19:35.31 | herlo | cool huh |
| 19:35.34 | swb | having typing troubles.. |
| 19:35.42 | swb | s/rosk/rocks/g |
| 19:35.52 | herlo | it only works on your last entry though |
| 19:35.57 | swb | oics |
| 19:36.02 | swb | meh |
| 19:36.34 | swb | shoot, now how do I back up in irssi?? |
| 19:36.55 | herlo | oh, I don't actually know, I use gaim |
| 19:38.35 | fungus | Cool, I just subscribed to Wait Wait... |
| 19:38.35 | fungus | http://www.kittypee.com/podcasts |
| 19:41.35 | mindjuju | Ask a Ninja - http://feeds.feedburner.com/askaninja |
| 19:43.35 | timinator | ask a ninja is great |
| 19:48.10 | swb | I just setup feeds in google reader for all kinds of job searches |
| 19:49.19 | burnin | I know everyone is pretty busy, but its been a couple of months and I just released some code on sourceforge.net so I thought I'd bring it up again... |
| 19:49.40 | bigdog_ut | what is the project? |
| 19:50.04 | burnin | if anyone is interested in reviewing some code from a learning coder I have a php project at http://sourceforge.net/projects/phpgirder/ |
| 19:51.04 | burnin | I'm hopeful I can get two things out of a code review, is the code insecure or problematic, and is the design good or are there better solutions. |
| 19:53.41 | burnin | the examples I have posted on the sourceforge.net website are very basic but I do have a module I've been working on that adds content on top of a phpgirder install... |
| 19:53.52 | burnin | http://66.219.228.11/~burnin/bb/ |
| 19:54.11 | burnin | login with guest/guest will provide access to some of the editing features. |
| 19:54.28 | burnin | its just a test site so no worries about breaking anything. :) |
| 19:55.44 | fungus | That IP looks familiar... |
| 19:55.56 | fungus | heh, cool. |
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| 20:28.56 | herlo | mindjuju: ask a ninja is great |
| 20:33.40 | wps | I have a coworker that needs to destroy an old credit card |
| 20:33.47 | wps | any recommendations on how to do it with style? |
| 20:36.44 | bigdog_ut | blender |
| 20:36.50 | bigdog_ut | paper shredder |
| 20:37.21 | bigdog_ut | muriatic acid |
| 20:39.47 | macnewbold | burn it |
| 20:40.04 | macnewbold | ~weather kslc |
| 20:44.33 | macnewbold | ~weather kogd |
| 20:44.42 | macnewbold | ~weather kpvu |
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| 21:21.20 | beandog | its almost snowing out there. |
| 21:22.18 | timinator | It's snowing here in Ogden |
| 21:27.48 | bigdog_ut | clearfield is starting |
| 21:28.21 | timinator | must be on the move, Ogden just stopped |
| 21:35.55 | macnewbold | which way are you heading? from where to where? |
| 21:36.10 | drip | 40th south slc to syracuse |
| 21:36.20 | macnewbold | right into the storm probably :) |
| 21:36.21 | macnewbold | fun |
| 21:36.23 | drip | yep |
| 21:36.28 | drip | and wife has to go to work |
| 21:36.33 | drip | so leaving a bit early today. |
| 21:58.45 | timinator | hey guys |
| 21:58.57 | timinator | if I've got a subdomain |
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| 21:59.08 | timinator | how would I add that in the DNS entry? |
| 21:59.20 | timinator | should it be an A entry pointing to the IP? |
| 21:59.39 | timinator | or a CNAME pointing to the regular URL? |
| 21:59.46 | bigdog_ut | cname is fine |
| 21:59.58 | timinator | cool |
| 22:00.01 | macnewbold | (if you want them to go to the same server) |
| 22:00.03 | timinator | thx bigdog_ut |
| 22:00.07 | macnewbold | if it goes to a different server, use an A |
| 22:00.10 | timinator | they go to the same server |
| 22:00.14 | timinator | ah |
| 22:00.16 | timinator | gotcha |
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| 22:35.03 | beandog | man |
| 22:35.06 | beandog | patch is confusing. |
| 22:35.07 | beandog | buh. |
| 22:36.00 | jsmith-training | beandog: What's confusing about it? |
| 22:36.09 | beandog | jsmith-training: Just one of those things I cant wrap my brain around. |
| 22:36.12 | beandog | that and diff. |
| 22:36.20 | jsmith-training | Well, diff is super-easy. |
| 22:36.27 | jsmith-training | diff -u old_file new_file |
| 22:36.30 | beandog | yah |
| 22:36.36 | beandog | I can just never remember which side is which |
| 22:36.43 | jsmith-training | old before new |
| 22:36.43 | beandog | when looking at a .diff |
| 22:36.46 | beandog | ah okies. |
| 22:37.01 | jsmith-training | That way, looking at the diff the old has the - and the new has the + |
| 22:37.57 | beandog | Ok |
| 22:38.28 | beandog | The thing I always get lost on patch is when it can't find the old file |
| 22:39.12 | beandog | oh wait. |
| 22:39.16 | jsmith-training | The -p0 or -p1 flags to patch, for example. |
| 22:39.16 | beandog | I think I was just in the wrong directory. |
| 22:39.17 | beandog | maybe. |
| 22:40.19 | jsmith-training | The --dryrun flag to patch is very useful ;-) |
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| 23:00.41 | wps | anyone have any idea what "cres." in an address would be short for? |
| 23:00.50 | beandog | crescent? |
| 23:01.34 | _psychic_ | yeah like "circle" |
| 23:01.34 | beandog | might be circles |
| 23:01.34 | _psychic_ | its a cul de sac |
| 23:01.48 | _psychic_ | google says: http://palimpsest.stanford.edu/lex/abbr_suf.html |
| 23:02.04 | beandog | hey I was right |
| 23:02.06 | wps | thanks |
| 23:02.09 | beandog | thats scary. |
| 23:02.29 | _psychic_ | yeah, you're pretty weird. |
| 23:02.33 | beandog | http://spaceparanoids.org/code/php/reg.address.phps |
| 23:05.19 | _psychic_ | beandog: yeah but does it work for "cres." ? |
| 23:05.25 | beandog | nope. |
| 23:05.26 | beandog | :C |
| 23:05.46 | _psychic_ | busted! |
| 23:06.03 | _psychic_ | anyone use a mass mailing service they'd recommend? |
| 23:07.11 | wps | snail or e? |
| 23:07.19 | _psychic_ | e |
| 23:07.34 | _psychic_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:07.40 | wps | my company uses DreamMail |
| 23:07.41 | _psychic_ | but it's dying |
| 23:07.43 | _psychic_ | and it sucks |
| 23:07.59 | _psychic_ | wps: url? |
| 23:08.13 | wps | I have a friend that wrote VoliciPost |
| 23:08.13 | wps | http://www.velocipost.com/ |
| 23:08.38 | _psychic_ | wps: have a URL for dreammail? |
| 23:08.48 | wps | I'm googling |
| 23:09.14 | _psychic_ | http://www.epsiloninteractive.com/eisite/technology/dreammail.htm ? |
| 23:09.24 | beandog | ? google foo |
| 23:09.30 | beandog | hmm. |
| 23:09.32 | beandog | stupid bots. |
| 23:09.48 | _psychic_ | ~google foo |
| 23:10.01 | beandog | !google foo |
| 23:10.22 | wps | yes, that is it |
| 23:10.26 | wps | I wouldn't recommend it though |
| 23:10.27 | wps | it' |
| 23:10.29 | _psychic_ | their site sucks |
| 23:10.32 | wps | it's been a nightmare for us |
| 23:10.35 | _psychic_ | haha |
| 23:10.43 | beandog | I wonder how hard it would be to write an irc bot in pho. |
| 23:10.44 | beandog | php |
| 23:10.50 | _psychic_ | beandog: I have one. |
| 23:10.53 | beandog | really? |
| 23:10.54 | beandog | can I see |
| 23:11.03 | _psychic_ | I might have to dig it up |
| 23:11.08 | beandog | dig, baby. |
| 23:11.11 | beandog | :) |
| 23:11.11 | _psychic_ | we use it in #cakephp |
| 23:13.12 | beandog | huh |
| 23:13.18 | beandog | I could really use one with a backend to run queries in psql |
| 23:13.57 | _psychic_ | beandog: here's the base code. It's pretty extensible. http://www.phpbots.org/ |
| 23:14.01 | _psychic_ | That's what I used |
| 23:14.27 | beandog | holy crap |
| 23:14.29 | beandog | that is awesome. |
| 23:14.30 | beandog | thanks man |
| 23:14.33 | _psychic_ | np |
| 23:14.34 | beandog | _psychic_++ |
| 23:14.37 | _psychic_ | super easy to get up |
| 23:14.47 | _psychic_ | we integrated it with our pastes system |
| 23:14.55 | beandog | paste system? |
| 23:14.59 | beandog | like rafb or something |
| 23:15.09 | _psychic_ | http://bin.cakephp.org |
| 23:15.31 | beandog | I love pastebins |
| 23:15.39 | _psychic_ | wps: have any good recommendations? |
| 23:15.45 | wps | unfortunately, no |
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