| 00:00.09 | swb | 2 questions before you go.. |
| 00:00.40 | atoponce | ok |
| 00:01.20 | swb | have you checked that you can actually write something to the file (i.e. print CLN "test";) |
| 00:02.04 | atoponce | yes. 'print CLN $_;' prints the entire line, which is what i don't want. but the data *is* there in it's proper format |
| 00:02.12 | swb | and... shouldn't you be appending to sample.txt instead of writing to it: open(CLN, ">>sample.txt"); |
| 00:02.31 | Lone_Wanderer | atoponce: printf is print formatted, not print to a file |
| 00:02.42 | Lone_Wanderer | there is no print to a file command, but there is fwrite to write to a file ;) |
| 00:02.43 | atoponce | if it already exists, then i want to overwrite it rather than append |
| 00:03.28 | atoponce | Lone_Wanderer: fwrite? |
| 00:03.41 | Lone_Wanderer | yes. look it up. |
| 00:04.04 | Lone_Wanderer | www.php.net/fwrite |
| 00:04.52 | atoponce | oh. sorry. perl, not php. :-)» |
| 00:05.11 | Lone_Wanderer | ahh, if you're asking about perl why are you in the utah php user's channel? |
| 00:05.56 | Lone_Wanderer | (I'd also imagine that perl has the exact same fwrite and printf functions, they're pretty standard) |
| 00:06.20 | atoponce | well, i just needed some immediate help. thought you might be able to help. i'm here, because i want to learn php and be involved with the group |
| 00:06.27 | atoponce | sorry for spamming the channel with perl... |
| 00:06.43 | Lone_Wanderer | cool |
| 00:06.52 | Lone_Wanderer | it's no problem, I just thought you were asking about php is all |
| 00:07.19 | atoponce | i'll have plenty of php questions here in about a month or less |
| 00:07.33 | atoponce | i have a big project that i am writing in php |
| 00:07.35 | atoponce | :-)» |
| 00:07.55 | atoponce | of course, the mailing list will be my friend as well... |
| 00:08.04 | Lone_Wanderer | <3 the mailing list |
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| 00:08.11 | Lone_Wanderer | what's the project? |
| 00:08.46 | atoponce | i work for market research as a back end survey programmer |
| 00:09.09 | atoponce | everything we do, however, is in quick basic, and the IT manager hates it |
| 00:09.32 | Lone_Wanderer | can't say I blame him |
| 00:09.44 | atoponce | he wants everything moved to perl, c++ or php depending on what needs to be done |
| 00:11.22 | timinator | I'm out guys |
| 00:11.23 | timinator | later |
| 00:12.55 | Lone_Wanderer | hmm |
| 00:13.17 | Lone_Wanderer | is there any way to make files created within a directory automatically be owned by a certain user, and in that user's group? |
| 00:13.23 | atoponce | my project is sample manipulation: modifying large text files (10,000 lines with 300+ columns) in csv, ascii text, tab delim, etc |
| 00:13.41 | atoponce | anyway, i'm out. thx again for everyone's help |
| 00:13.42 | Lone_Wanderer | so that any file created in the htdocs directory will be set to apache:apache |
| 00:13.45 | Lone_Wanderer | later atoponce |
| 00:13.58 | Lone_Wanderer | php can do that but perl is a better choice |
| 00:26.35 | bigdog_ut | Lone_Wanderer, that would be a security risk |
| 00:26.47 | Lone_Wanderer | why would it be? |
| 00:27.04 | Lone_Wanderer | because someone could write any file in there and have it run as an unprivileged user? |
| 00:27.19 | bigdog_ut | potentially |
| 00:27.41 | Lone_Wanderer | apache is unprivileged |
| 00:28.00 | Lone_Wanderer | Been here too long, time to go. |
| 00:28.21 | macnewbold | ~brownie |
| 00:28.26 | macnewbold | ~rlart |
| 00:28.36 | macnewbold | stinker |
| 00:28.39 | macnewbold | ~rlart |
| 00:28.42 | bigdog_ut | lol |
| 00:28.46 | bigdog_ut | nasty |
| 00:29.00 | macnewbold | ~lart someone else |
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| 00:44.46 | mindjuju | ~rlart |
| 00:45.05 | macnewbold | ~rlart |
| 00:45.10 | mindjuju | ~nyuk jbot |
| 00:45.14 | jbot | ACTION grabs jbot nose and hammers it with his other hand! |
| 00:45.26 | mindjuju | ~rlart |
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| 02:56.30 | beandog | man |
| 02:56.40 | beandog | I *almost* spent $700 on a new computer today. |
| 02:56.56 | beandog | intel dual core. |
| 02:56.57 | beandog | ah well. |
| 02:57.03 | mindjuju | what stopped you? |
| 02:57.08 | burnin | upgrade? |
| 02:57.11 | beandog | a rare bout of self control. |
| 02:57.33 | beandog | no, brand new box, everything except the case |
| 02:57.55 | beandog | If I didnt have to buy new RAM as well (ddr2) I probalby would have gotten it |
| 02:58.42 | mindjuju | beandog, are you married? |
| 02:58.50 | beandog | no |
| 02:59.30 | mindjuju | just my $.02 -- staying within fiscal solvency, buy what you want, cause you won't be able to later on |
| 02:59.41 | beandog | heh |
| 03:00.15 | beandog | yah I usally do |
| 03:03.49 | beandog | I do have an extra amd64 mobo, if anyone is looking to buy. |
| 03:03.54 | beandog | no cpu, though. |
| 03:04.38 | beandog | dully? |
| 03:04.39 | mindjuju | k, i admit it, it's a p3 600mhz |
| 03:04.45 | mindjuju | dual p3 |
| 03:05.08 | mindjuju | typing too fast |
| 03:05.20 | beandog | ooh, thats cool. |
| 03:05.23 | beandog | We had a dual p2 at work once. |
| 03:06.02 | mindjuju | i've got cool comp at work, but at home, my wife's box has fastest processor |
| 03:06.35 | beandog | heh |
| 03:10.45 | beandog | neverwinter nights 2 |
| 03:10.47 | beandog | :D |
| 03:11.46 | burnin | damn, the uphpu meeting was early this month, and it wasn't about flash. :( |
| 03:12.55 | burnin | database design would have been an interesting discussion. |
| 03:13.03 | burnin | or I guess it likely was |
| 03:14.33 | mindjuju | it was good |
| 03:14.43 | mindjuju | there should be an mp3 of it somewhere on the site |
| 03:15.24 | mindjuju | i know the slides are available |
| 03:15.24 | burnin | yeah, I just went through the presentation slides |
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| 04:26.30 | bradym | anyone know how to get rounded corners with CSS working in IE6? I've got it working in Firefox, Opera and IE7, but IE6 is choking big time.. |
| 04:26.48 | bradym | http://utah4h.org/~bradym/temp/ is the page |
| 04:36.13 | mindjuju | curious, i took this code apart v slowly, the boxes actually work, but for some reason header.gif is what is cause the top part to not work |
| 04:36.23 | mindjuju | uno momento por favor |
| 04:37.06 | bradym | i found that if i increase the size of that top box to 770px, it works, but for some reason i can't get that to work with the other boxes |
| 04:39.02 | mindjuju | yup, i see what you mean, remove that comment on the browser detect and it works |
| 04:39.24 | mindjuju | course, that's a long way to go to get rounded boxes |
| 04:39.30 | mindjuju | can i ask a goofy question? |
| 04:39.35 | bradym | sure |
| 04:39.59 | mindjuju | i'm a huge fan of CSS, been doing tableless designs since wade's presentation about a year and a half ago |
| 04:40.12 | mindjuju | but haven't seen CSS be able to do rounded boxes predictably well |
| 04:40.21 | mindjuju | why not just make the box in photoshop, save as a gif |
| 04:40.29 | mindjuju | prolly run you 2, maybe 3k |
| 04:40.39 | mindjuju | in filesize and it'd work every time |
| 04:41.36 | bradym | that's an option.. it could definitely work for the header and menu bars, not sure how to get that working with the content area though |
| 04:41.57 | mindjuju | yeah, starting to look at that box |
| 04:42.59 | mindjuju | that's funny |
| 04:43.23 | bradym | what's that? |
| 04:43.42 | mindjuju | when you del the <div></div> tags in the <div class='box-white'></div> it actually works |
| 04:44.37 | mindjuju | weird, but if you put anything into that box, it misaligns |
| 04:46.42 | mindjuju | bradym |
| 04:46.56 | bradym | yeah? |
| 04:47.06 | mindjuju | it fixes again if you comment out the background image in the .boxtop-white css |
| 04:47.29 | mindjuju | weird, hang on, what is that box? |
| 04:47.38 | mindjuju | is that just for the curve? |
| 04:47.43 | bradym | yeah |
| 04:47.54 | mindjuju | oh, i see |
| 04:48.46 | mindjuju | sorry, i'm tired, didn't see you had a div called boxcontent and that content would go in there |
| 04:48.55 | mindjuju | i had content in the boxtop-white |
| 04:49.33 | mindjuju | did you want main content area to have a curved corner in the top left side? |
| 04:49.35 | bradym | yeah, the setup is kinda messy... this is my first attempt at rounded corners so i'm just using http://wigflip.com/cornershop/ and tweaking |
| 04:49.52 | bradym | yeah, i'm looking for all four corners to be rounded |
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| 04:55.59 | mindjuju | frickin GAIM, been crashing since i upgraded to beta .5 |
| 04:56.16 | beandog | my jabber has been crashing tonight |
| 04:56.16 | bradym | ouch |
| 04:56.37 | mindjuju | oh, i see, so you had a div called .boxtop-white that was handling the right side, and the div inside .boxtop-white handling the left side curve |
| 04:57.28 | bradym | yeah... it's kinda wierd, but it works in the other browsers.. |
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| 14:52.29 | timinator | morning |
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| 15:32.54 | bigdog_ut | ~mornin all |
| 15:33.08 | timinator | ~morning all |
| 15:33.10 | jbot | ACTION bends space and time, trapping all in a universe of eternal monday mornings |
| 15:37.02 | beandog | heh, thats a nice one. |
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| 16:05.07 | drip | good morning |
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| 16:10.03 | beandog | morn |
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| 16:44.12 | macnewbold | ~rlart |
| 16:44.29 | beandog | lol |
| 16:44.32 | beandog | I love that one. |
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| 17:07.45 | Lone_Wanderer | Anyone know of a good unit testing framework besides phpunit? |
| 17:08.05 | Lone_Wanderer | Not that I have anything against phpunit, I just want a few alternatives to pick from |
| 17:26.48 | bigdog_ut | i think there is one called simple test |
| 17:26.57 | bigdog_ut | im thinking it is from chris shiflett |
| 17:30.37 | Lone_Wanderer | Hmmm. |
| 17:30.40 | Lone_Wanderer | I think I need an assassin. |
| 17:31.06 | bigdog_ut | for? |
| 17:31.18 | Lone_Wanderer | To kill someone. |
| 17:31.20 | Lone_Wanderer | Clearly. |
| 17:31.32 | timinator | clearly |
| 17:31.39 | mindjuju | askaninja.com - has a ninja there |
| 17:31.52 | Lone_Wanderer | Not a ninja. Just a normal assassin. |
| 17:31.55 | Lone_Wanderer | Ninjas stand out in a crowd. |
| 17:32.08 | mindjuju | this one is fairly stealthy though |
| 17:32.22 | mindjuju | a non Ninja assassin, hmmm.... |
| 17:32.25 | bigdog_ut | i love programming in generics |
| 17:33.09 | Lone_Wanderer | erngh |
| 17:33.15 | Lone_Wanderer | this whole unit testing thing is breaking my brain |
| 17:33.29 | bigdog_ut | whatz up brother? |
| 17:33.47 | Lone_Wanderer | I need a mile-high view of the whole unit testing thing |
| 17:33.58 | bigdog_ut | what would you like to know? |
| 17:33.59 | Lone_Wanderer | all the examples I can find get into the details quick |
| 17:34.11 | Lone_Wanderer | I think I understand the basics |
| 17:34.18 | Lone_Wanderer | you make tests that run against your code |
| 17:34.42 | bigdog_ut | that is the basic |
| 17:34.47 | Lone_Wanderer | and if one of them fails you know you have a bug |
| 17:35.09 | Lone_Wanderer | but I'm looking at this code and going "Why does it have to be so complicated?" |
| 17:35.25 | bigdog_ut | unit testing code? |
| 17:35.29 | Lone_Wanderer | yeahh |
| 17:35.30 | Lone_Wanderer | -h |
| 17:35.41 | bigdog_ut | well sometimes people take the unit testing overboard |
| 17:36.02 | bigdog_ut | basically unit testing helps to verify that your code does what it is suppose to do |
| 17:36.10 | Lone_Wanderer | right |
| 17:36.23 | bigdog_ut | and if you make changes your tests should check if it breaks that functionality |
| 17:36.45 | Lone_Wanderer | yeah |
| 17:38.21 | Lone_Wanderer | So is there a quick and easy unit testing suite available? All I'm finding is phpunit |
| 17:38.33 | bigdog_ut | did you check out simple test |
| 17:38.39 | Lone_Wanderer | no |
| 17:39.08 | bigdog_ut | http://www.lastcraft.com/simple_test.php |
| 17:39.21 | bigdog_ut | that might be a little easier to use |
| 17:41.58 | Lone_Wanderer | thanks |
| 17:42.04 | mindjuju | just doing my daily scan of IS news, found this -- v interesting |
| 17:42.05 | mindjuju | http://searchsecurity.techtarget.com/originalContent/0,289142,sid14_gci1188794,00.html |
| 17:43.47 | bigdog_ut | roflol |
| 17:44.00 | mindjuju | that article? |
| 17:44.06 | bigdog_ut | yeah |
| 17:44.32 | mindjuju | what would that even look like? 1 - 3 million packets per second? |
| 17:44.46 | beandog | wow thats old. |
| 17:45.17 | bigdog_ut | whatz funny is that they could not stop it |
| 17:45.32 | timinator | wow |
| 17:45.43 | beandog | They should have done distributed attacks |
| 17:45.48 | beandog | that was their major error |
| 17:45.50 | Lone_Wanderer | that's cool |
| 17:45.54 | beandog | giving one central target makes it easy to take them out. |
| 17:46.03 | beandog | oh well. |
| 17:46.27 | mindjuju | i've heard about companies with huge fat pipes and crazy servers where if your being DDOS, there servers can actually take it |
| 17:46.32 | atoponce | /whois sheri? |
| 17:46.41 | mindjuju | sheri is swb |
| 17:46.49 | atoponce | ah hah. thx |
| 17:47.43 | tierra | maybe I use wget a bit much... |
| 17:47.48 | tierra | #wget http://bfads.net/adscans/ |
| 17:47.48 | tierra | #wget -r -l1 -np --force-html -A.pdf --base=http://download.bfads.net/ -i index.html |
| 17:48.04 | macnewbold | nice |
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| 17:49.01 | mindjuju | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:49.12 | swb | what about? |
| 17:49.36 | mindjuju | somebody was asking who sheri was and i said sheri = swb |
| 17:49.38 | atoponce | me :-)» |
| 17:49.52 | swb | hi atoponce |
| 17:49.56 | macnewbold | sheri "webmistress" bigelow |
| 17:49.58 | wps | is that a goatee? |
| 17:49.59 | macnewbold | ~swb++ |
| 17:50.03 | swb | did you get your perl script fixed? |
| 17:50.16 | atoponce | wps: yeah. awesome, no? |
| 17:50.21 | wps | sweet |
| 17:50.26 | swb | goatee? |
| 17:50.39 | wps | ~goatee |
| 17:50.43 | atoponce | swb: no. i think the problem is it's not adding \n. |
| 17:51.02 | atoponce | i just got your email, and i'm looking at the script now |
| 17:51.10 | wps | ~flavor saver |
| 17:51.23 | wps | jbot, wake up |
| 17:51.25 | jbot | ACTION throws a barrel-full of ice water on up and shouts "GOOD MORNING!!!!" |
| 17:51.34 | wps | jbot, wake jbot |
| 17:51.35 | jbot | ACTION throws a barrel-full of ice water on jbot and shouts "GOOD MORNING!!!!" |
| 17:52.37 | atoponce | yeah. "\n" was the problem. it's amazing what 8 hours of sleep can do to you |
| 17:52.54 | wps | jbot, goatee is a beard formed by a tuft of hair on the chin. The goatee underwent a renaissance in the 1990s, when a close-cropped variant with an integrated moustache was popularized by the musicians, actors and sports heroes of the day. Like the beard, the goatee is most commonly seen in combination with a moustache. However, since the beginning of the 21st Century, this has begun to change and new styles have begun to emerge. Frequently, goatees are worn concomi |
| 17:52.56 | jbot | wps: that's too long |
| 17:53.08 | swb | lol |
| 17:53.17 | wps | sheesh |
| 17:53.26 | wps | jbot, goatee is a beard formed by a tuft of hair on the chin |
| 17:53.28 | jbot | wps: okay |
| 17:54.03 | atoponce | haha |
| 17:54.26 | Lone_Wanderer | okay cool, this is making sense |
| 17:54.52 | Lone_Wanderer | now I just need to do some serious thinking about which test cases to write |
| 17:55.18 | bigdog_ut | lol |
| 17:57.07 | swb | I have a dns/nameserver/geotargeting question... I have a site that I need to split into US and non-US traffic, I asked the domain owner to update the name servers and this is what they replied: "for now we propose that yo uprovide us with the IP-address to which thedomain.com should point [...] then you will get ALL users and you can 'keep' the US users and 'forward' the non-US users to us." |
| 17:57.28 | atoponce | http://www.jeffreydeanfoster.com/facial.html |
| 17:57.30 | swb | k, so why are they asking me for an IP-address? |
| 17:58.28 | swb | don't they just need to update the nameservers so I can control the traffic? |
| 17:58.29 | macnewbold | swb: they want to know where they should point the dns record for your web server ... i.e. the IP of the server on which the site is hosted, |
| 17:58.42 | wps | nice, atoponce |
| 17:58.43 | macnewbold | alternatively they could turn over the name service to you to handle, |
| 17:58.47 | bigdog_ut | i bot a balbo - mus |
| 17:58.55 | macnewbold | but it sounds like they're hesitant about that for some reason |
| 17:58.56 | bigdog_ut | i got a balbo - mustache |
| 17:58.59 | swb | oic... k, I usually just setup the registrar stuff, not the dns records |
| 17:59.09 | wps | short boxed for me |
| 17:59.25 | bigdog_ut | wps, that is sick |
| 17:59.38 | bigdog_ut | i see you with an anchor |
| 17:59.44 | bigdog_ut | or a nap III |
| 17:59.50 | macnewbold | though if all the dns points at you, when you forward anyone non-US to "them", they'd have to be using a different domain name or at least a different host name |
| 17:59.51 | atoponce | short boxed here |
| 17:59.51 | bigdog_ut | imperial style |
| 18:00.07 | wps | hulihee would be wicked-sweet |
| 18:00.29 | atoponce | i've always like the hollywoodian |
| 18:00.42 | swb | I will basically be using the domain as a vanity url (it will eventially point to two different domains) |
| 18:00.57 | wps | vanity URL? |
| 18:01.18 | bigdog_ut | that is like a van dyke |
| 18:01.45 | swb | macnewbold, so when I sent them the request to update the name servers, I should have also sent them an IP by default, yes? |
| 18:01.47 | bigdog_ut | actually wps i think you should do the petit goatee |
| 18:02.09 | wps | nasty |
| 18:02.14 | wps | you'll never see me with a goat |
| 18:02.26 | bigdog_ut | lol |
| 18:02.48 | wps | burns… beard… yes… but never a goat or a stash only |
| 18:02.51 | atoponce | i've always had a goat. only recently i thought i'd try a beard |
| 18:03.07 | bigdog_ut | i always have a balbo |
| 18:03.08 | atoponce | thus, my smiley |
| 18:03.33 | bigdog_ut | thats wicked sexy |
| 18:08.34 | macnewbold | where are y'all getting all this info about facial hair? I've never heard most of these names |
| 18:08.49 | bigdog_ut | anyone know of any junior graphic artists looking for work? |
| 18:09.00 | macnewbold | I had one for a couple of months, but don't know what the name of the style was |
| 18:09.08 | bigdog_ut | macnewbold, when you have it, you know it |
| 18:09.30 | macnewbold | alas, it's been gone now for almost 10 days :( |
| 18:09.30 | macnewbold | my wife misses it though, which I guess is a good sign |
| 18:09.49 | bigdog_ut | when i have mine, my wife calls me brother bigdog |
| 18:09.49 | macnewbold | swb: If you want them to point the name servers at you, send them the IP addresses of your dns servers (usually at least two) |
| 18:09.51 | wps | atoponce pasted a link |
| 18:10.06 | bigdog_ut | nasty bugger too |
| 18:10.14 | macnewbold | if you just want them to point at you for the web server, send them that IP address and tell them to put it in an A record |
| 18:10.24 | macnewbold | aha |
| 18:10.25 | macnewbold | found the link |
| 18:10.56 | macnewbold | yeah, mine was none of the above |
| 18:12.02 | bigdog_ut | swb check your messages |
| 18:12.16 | macnewbold | kind of a mix between a balbo, a short boxed, and a goatee |
| 18:12.33 | macnewbold | mustache (non-handlebar) that connected to goatee |
| 18:12.56 | bigdog_ut | macnewbold, i think you would look good with a french fork |
| 18:13.03 | bigdog_ut | or a hulihee |
| 18:14.16 | wps | jbot, do you have facial hair? |
| 18:14.27 | jbot | yes, I have facial hair. |
| 18:14.32 | atoponce | lol |
| 18:14.47 | wps | jbot, does your girlfriend have facial hair? |
| 18:15.39 | wps | usually silence is an indication in the affirmative |
| 18:15.59 | timinator | ya, he's embarrassed |
| 18:16.51 | timinator | jbot, just pay for a day at the salon... they'll usually just take care of that |
| 18:17.04 | wps | jbot, have you waxed? |
| 18:18.30 | atoponce | jbot: bikiniwax is jbot going to the salon. |
| 18:18.31 | jbot | atoponce: okay |
| 18:23.09 | macnewbold | lunch already? |
| 18:23.13 | macnewbold | yikes, time flies |
| 18:23.18 | bigdog_ut | feels like it |
| 18:23.19 | mindjuju | he's in virginia too |
| 18:23.31 | mindjuju | so he's 2 hours ahead of us, 1:30p |
| 18:26.30 | swb | bigdog_ut, was trying to check my messages, but not sure mine are getting through |
| 18:33.39 | swb | delayed reaction: hey! |
| 18:34.07 | bigdog_ut | lunch is good today |
| 18:34.10 | bigdog_ut | :0 |
| 18:34.19 | mindjuju | what you having for lunch? |
| 18:34.55 | bigdog_ut | chicken cord blue + wild rice + steamed vegs |
| 18:35.53 | mindjuju | wow, sounds good. i'm making Monte Cristo sandwiches on thanksgiving |
| 18:36.15 | bigdog_ut | nice...thoughs sound good |
| 18:36.33 | bigdog_ut | we are doign the whole dinner this year...stayin home |
| 18:37.17 | mindjuju | last year we made the big meal, I made honey-brined smokey turkey, it was good |
| 18:37.39 | mindjuju | this year though, everybody wants to take it easy so i'm make the MC sandwiches and prolly some other things |
| 18:39.39 | macnewbold | ~montecristo sandwich |
| 18:40.56 | mindjuju | a monte cristo sandwich is a normal sandwich with excellent cuts of deli cheese and meats, dipped into an egg based batter and deep fried, dried and dusted with confectioner's sugar and served with rasbery perserves |
| 18:41.28 | macnewbold | k, sounds like I need to drop by MJ's on T-day |
| 18:41.37 | bigdog_ut | very good too...the berry preserve makes it a beauty |
| 18:41.43 | macnewbold | geek lunch at MJs, anyone? |
| 18:41.47 | mindjuju | dude, they are frickin' crazy good |
| 18:42.08 | mindjuju | it's funny you say that. i did a company luncheon just the other day. cooked for 70 people |
| 18:42.11 | mindjuju | kinda fun |
| 18:42.14 | macnewbold | what kinds of bread do you use? |
| 18:43.14 | mindjuju | here is the recipe i used |
| 18:43.15 | mindjuju | http://www.cdkitchen.com/recipes/recs/18/BennigansMonteCristo62755.shtml |
| 18:43.27 | mindjuju | they were fairly close to what it tasted like there |
| 18:44.33 | bigdog_ut | maybe the bigdog can get the wife to make some this week |
| 18:44.42 | mindjuju | ignore the fact that they say jam, don't use the jam, go perserves, that's a faux pas on their part |
| 18:59.54 | mindjuju | hate it when people freak out |
| 19:03.11 | macnewbold | younglings... when will they ever learn |
| 19:06.22 | jsmith | They learn, right before you start calling them "henchmen" instead of "younglings" |
| 19:09.27 | Utah_Dave-Meetin | I guess there's a limit on nick length! |
| 19:16.06 | timinator | ya'll goin' ta dat dar meetin'? |
| 19:26.04 | bigdog_ut | what meeting? |
| 19:43.47 | jsmith | A meeting w/ some people that work for govt. agencies with three-letter acronyms... |
| 19:43.59 | jsmith | ... then maybe I'll have time to send an email to bigdog_ut |
| 19:44.12 | bigdog_ut | about time |
| 19:44.34 | bigdog_ut | im throwing work at my boy and he leaves me handing :p |
| 19:44.48 | bigdog_ut | s/handing/hanging/g |
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| 20:31.36 | mindjuju | ~rlart |
| 21:15.43 | beandog | Does anyone have an intel dual core machine? |
| 21:15.51 | beandog | I'm wondering if they are worth buying. |
| 21:16.05 | bigdog_ut | i have 6 of them |
| 21:16.09 | beandog | buh |
| 21:16.16 | beandog | gentoo on any of em, bigdog_ut ? |
| 21:16.29 | bigdog_ut | unfortunately now...centos on them all |
| 21:16.33 | bigdog_ut | s/now/not/g |
| 21:16.54 | beandog | huh |
| 21:17.01 | beandog | what arch would they be, x86? |
| 21:17.04 | beandog | are they 64bit? |
| 21:17.17 | bigdog_ut | yeah are 64bit but im running the 32bit os on them |
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| 21:17.42 | bigdog_ut | someday i will upgrade them |
| 21:17.48 | Lone_Wanderer | Does anyone here use Firefox's Live HTTP Headers? |
| 21:17.57 | bigdog_ut | Lone_Wanderer, yep |
| 21:18.05 | Lone_Wanderer | How can I tell if I'm getting forwarded? |
| 21:18.29 | bigdog_ut | check the response from the server |
| 21:18.38 | bigdog_ut | and then see if you make another request |
| 21:18.43 | bigdog_ut | for the forward |
| 21:18.45 | Lone_Wanderer | there's three requests in a row here |
| 21:18.54 | Lone_Wanderer | POST, GET, GET |
| 21:19.15 | bigdog_ut | if the server redirects you then you will get that http response back |
| 21:19.27 | Lone_Wanderer | from one click of a button. it's supposed to redirect me but only once. |
| 21:19.34 | com4 | Lone_Wanderer: you're looking for a 3xx header |
| 21:19.40 | bigdog_ut | yep |
| 21:19.41 | com4 | i forget, but there are two |
| 21:19.41 | Lone_Wanderer | yep |
| 21:19.46 | Lone_Wanderer | 302 Found |
| 21:19.47 | com4 | permanant and temporary |
| 21:20.03 | com4 | if that's in Live HTTP Headers then you were forwarded |
| 21:20.09 | Lone_Wanderer | there's a POST that gives a 302, a GET that gives a 302, and a GET that gives a 200 |
| 21:20.12 | Lone_Wanderer | ok cool |
| 21:20.26 | Lone_Wanderer | at least I know where things are going now |
| 21:20.36 | bigdog_ut | it is a nice plugin to have |
| 21:20.44 | Lone_Wanderer | it's a lifesaver |
| 21:21.06 | bigdog_ut | Lone_Wanderer, check this out http://www.w3.org/Protocols/rfc2616/rfc2616-sec10.html |
| 21:21.33 | Lone_Wanderer | so it's redirecting me at some point |
| 21:21.34 | Lone_Wanderer | I just don't know what's doing it |
| 21:21.46 | bigdog_ut | yeah like com4 said a 3xx is a redirect http response from the server |
| 21:21.51 | Lone_Wanderer | k |
| 21:21.53 | Lone_Wanderer | ahh, I see it now |
| 21:21.56 | Lone_Wanderer | Location: whatever |
| 21:22.57 | bigdog_ut | yep location: will send a 302 back |
| 21:23.23 | bigdog_ut | unless some 3xx status code was already sent before it |
| 21:23.44 | Lone_Wanderer | nah |
| 21:23.53 | Lone_Wanderer | I just don't know where in the code I'm getting forwarded |
| 21:25.33 | bigdog_ut | it might also be in the server if you have any url rewrite happening |
| 21:27.44 | Lone_Wanderer | hmm |
| 21:27.48 | Lone_Wanderer | no, that wouldn't be it |
| 21:27.53 | Lone_Wanderer | I've got a production server and a test server |
| 21:28.00 | Lone_Wanderer | the production server works fine |
| 21:28.06 | Lone_Wanderer | the test server has this weird forward |
| 21:28.15 | Lone_Wanderer | whose source I can't find |
| 21:28.20 | bigdog_ut | grep all the php files for header() |
| 21:28.40 | Lone_Wanderer | there's only two |
| 21:28.43 | Lone_Wanderer | well, there's includes as welll |
| 21:31.27 | Lone_Wanderer | Let me just state for the record that there is absolutely no need to get surgery for a B or larger, unless it's to make them smaller. |
| 21:31.44 | bigdog_ut | +1 |
| 21:31.50 | bigdog_ut | sryy +2 |
| 21:32.18 | bigdog_ut | and stand up!!! |
| 21:33.26 | Lone_Wanderer | eh? |
| 21:33.36 | bigdog_ut | think of skiing |
| 21:43.08 | Lone_Wanderer | okay, this is magical |
| 21:43.14 | Lone_Wanderer | there is no redirection in this code |
| 21:43.18 | Lone_Wanderer | and yet it's happening! |
| 21:49.23 | Lone_Wanderer | ahh, I found it |
| 21:49.30 | beandog | huzzah! |
| 21:49.36 | beandog | And the villagers rejoiced. :) |
| 21:49.45 | beandog | what was it? |
| 21:50.17 | Lone_Wanderer | There's a redirect buried in a file somewhere |
| 21:50.22 | Lone_Wanderer | the database connect file |
| 21:50.45 | Lone_Wanderer | if something's not set |
| 21:50.54 | Lone_Wanderer | then it redirects you for some retarded reason |
| 21:50.58 | beandog | I was gonna say |
| 21:51.02 | beandog | why in the world would it redirect. |
| 21:53.28 | Lone_Wanderer | because the guy who wrote this code wasn't well educated enough in proper coding practices to do it right |
| 21:53.38 | Lone_Wanderer | everything he writes behaves the way it should so long as you change nothing |
| 21:54.07 | Lone_Wanderer | What song is that? |
| 21:54.31 | beandog | it sounds really familiar. |
| 21:54.42 | beandog | oh yes. |
| 21:54.48 | bigdog_ut | boy george song actually |
| 21:54.48 | beandog | culture club. |
| 21:54.53 | bigdog_ut | yeh |
| 21:55.15 | bigdog_ut | femmes did a killer remake |
| 22:03.07 | Lone_Wanderer | Is 5.0.22 the most recent version of MySQL? |
| 22:03.26 | bigdog_ut | mysql |
| 22:03.27 | Lone_Wanderer | I guess it's good enough for what I need |
| 22:03.28 | bigdog_ut | ~mysql |
| 22:03.34 | jbot | SQL (Structured Query Language) database server. URL: http://www.mysql.com/ |
| 22:03.41 | beandog | Well there is a 5.1 |
| 22:03.47 | beandog | if you like alpha-beta-tastiness. |
| 22:03.52 | beandog | or maybe its gamma. |
| 22:03.54 | beandog | or delta. |
| 22:03.56 | beandog | I cant remember. |
| 22:04.00 | bigdog_ut | epsilon |
| 22:04.25 | Lone_Wanderer | I heard something on the radio about "theta healing" |
| 22:04.32 | Lone_Wanderer | and thought, why stop with theta? |
| 22:04.48 | Lone_Wanderer | you could have OMEGA HEALING!!!!!! OMG MOST IRRATIONAL FAITH HEALING EVER! |
| 22:04.59 | beandog | heh |
| 22:05.40 | bigdog_ut | i think there is a 5.0.27 version out that is stable |
| 22:05.47 | Lone_Wanderer | it's not in yum though |
| 22:06.02 | beandog | mmm |
| 22:06.06 | beandog | I wish I had some smashing pumpkins. |
| 22:06.34 | Lone_Wanderer | Astrology, evolution, what else? |
| 22:06.43 | bigdog_ut | the cure |
| 22:07.02 | bigdog_ut | nin suck |
| 22:07.09 | bigdog_ut | ~smack mindjuju |
| 22:07.10 | jbot | ACTION smacks mindjuju upside the head. |
| 22:07.20 | mindjuju | ~dhit bigdog_ut |
| 22:07.21 | jbot | ACTION manages to land Gentoo Install Time on bigdog_ut, freezing him for days |
| 22:07.38 | beandog | lols |
| 22:07.51 | bigdog_ut | only fitting for the bigdog_ut |
| 22:08.04 | Lone_Wanderer | NIN was my "racket" song when I was a teenager |
| 22:08.45 | mindjuju | well, i do have the player pulling all the music from my late 80s - early 90s folder |
| 22:08.55 | mindjuju | so it has a lot of good stuff |
| 22:09.02 | Lone_Wanderer | I'd listen to it and get all mad at everything. |
| 22:10.20 | Lone_Wanderer | Stupid parents. Stupid school. Stupid world. |
| 22:11.23 | Lone_Wanderer | Is what I'd think when I listened to NIN. |
| 22:11.37 | beandog | no, I cannot go against my beloved animation! |
| 22:12.04 | mindjuju | yeah, think about all the quality cartoons that came out early 90s |
| 22:12.14 | mindjuju | beavis & butthead, ren & stimpy |
| 22:12.34 | mindjuju | i guess simpsons came out like in 92 or something |
| 22:12.41 | mindjuju | though i didn't see them til season 4 |
| 22:14.14 | Lone_Wanderer | mmmm, Simpsons |
| 22:14.17 | bigdog_ut | b&b is great |
| 22:14.27 | bigdog_ut | i loved ren & stimpy |
| 22:14.53 | Lone_Wanderer | b&b is my favorite example of good vs. enjoyable |
| 22:15.41 | Lone_Wanderer | "I *like* Beavis and Butthead, but that doesn't make them quality art. On the other hand ballet puts me to sleep, but Carmina Burana *is* high quality art." |
| 22:17.06 | Lone_Wanderer | I love that one. |
| 22:18.52 | Lone_Wanderer | ohh that was easy |
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| 22:31.22 | mindjuju | ~rlart |
| 22:38.31 | watermouse | hawt |
| 22:42.16 | beandog | simpsons came out wayyy before 92 |
| 22:42.21 | beandog | I remember watching it in middle school |
| 23:01.58 | Lone_Wanderer | Nothing. Ever. Works. |
| 23:02.57 | bigdog_ut | any mac users in the house? |
| 23:03.16 | beandog | Lone_Wanderer: whats wrong now |
| 23:03.30 | Lone_Wanderer | Same thing. Magical mystery redirect tour. |
| 23:04.20 | Lone_Wanderer | When I figure this one out I'm going to feel sooooo stupid |
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| 23:26.11 | Lone_Wanderer | will Zend's server play nice with Apache? |
| 23:27.26 | Lone_Wanderer | aww, everyone's gone :( |
| 23:33.30 | bigdog_ut | zend server sucks |
| 23:36.55 | Lone_Wanderer | okay |
| 23:36.57 | Lone_Wanderer | what sucks about it? |
| 23:39.35 | bigdog_ut | if you do development with it you can only use windows |
| 23:39.42 | Lone_Wanderer | oh |
| 23:39.54 | beandog | really??? |
| 23:39.56 | beandog | bah! |
| 23:39.57 | bigdog_ut | yep |
| 23:40.06 | Lone_Wanderer | that's tragic |
| 23:40.09 | beandog | Lone_Wanderer: I thought you found it already |
| 23:40.09 | bigdog_ut | and they dont have support for freebsd which i would use it for |
| 23:40.14 | Lone_Wanderer | except that I use Windows for my desktop machine anyway |
| 23:40.31 | bigdog_ut | for the java bridge |
| 23:40.38 | synic | speaking of |
| 23:40.46 | synic | what version of gstreamer is available for freebsd? |
| 23:41.29 | bigdog_ut | that is a macnewbold question...i dont use it on my servers |
| 23:41.40 | macnewbold | huh? |
| 23:41.45 | macnewbold | lemme check |
| 23:42.39 | macnewbold | looks like they've got .8 and .10 |
| 23:42.42 | bigdog_ut | Lone_Wanderer, i do use the zend optimizer though |
| 23:43.08 | Lone_Wanderer | k |
| 23:45.21 | synic | macnewbold: cool |