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| 02:34.12 | herlo | Utah_Dave!!!! |
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| 02:46.37 | Utah_Dav1 | hey, what's up? |
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| 16:45.48 | mindjuju | greets gents |
| 16:46.07 | timinator | survived |
| 16:46.16 | timinator | Loved it |
| 16:46.21 | timinator | Great Response |
| 16:46.31 | mindjuju | are you going on vacation now? |
| 16:46.35 | timinator | people are signing up today left and right |
| 16:46.43 | timinator | pretty soon mindjuju |
| 16:47.30 | timinator | how's your presentation coming? |
| 16:49.38 | mindjuju | not to bad, got get some things finished up |
| 16:51.28 | drip | timinator: grats on the rollowut |
| 16:51.37 | drip | wow.. that was awful. |
| 16:51.37 | drip | lol |
| 16:51.50 | timinator | drip: thank you |
| 16:51.51 | drip | rollout |
| 16:51.52 | timinator | lol |
| 16:52.32 | drip | I'm hoping to finish up this project this week. |
| 16:52.34 | drip | 2 weeks early. |
| 16:52.36 | drip | =) |
| 16:53.00 | timinator | nice |
| 16:58.45 | Utah_Dave | timinator: so no more late night? It seemed whenever I was on late, you and mindjuju were hacking away |
| 17:00.51 | timinator | yep... |
| 17:01.14 | timinator | I have to do a few more late nights, but I'm going to phase them out quickly |
| 17:01.33 | mindjuju | yup, everything should slow way down for me dec 1 |
| 17:02.03 | mindjuju | with roll out being the week of thanksgiving, that should be 1 week of fine tuning |
| 17:14.31 | Utah_Dave | cool |
| 17:21.29 | herlo | Utah_Dave!!! |
| 17:22.00 | herlo | Utah_Dave: how was New York? |
| 17:23.15 | Utah_Dave | Rainy!! It was a good trip. |
| 17:23.40 | Utah_Dave | We finished what we were sent to do by lunch on the first day. |
| 17:25.33 | herlo | so you goofed off the rest of the time? |
| 17:28.55 | Utah_Dave | I noticed! |
| 17:52.56 | herlo | Utah_Dave: cool huh! |
| 17:53.23 | herlo | I added a bunch of stuff to the Makefile too. I still need to test it on the Windows side. Maybe we could meet after UPHPU on Thursday? |
| 17:54.06 | herlo | Utah_Dave: oh, and I just committed a bunch more stuff too |
| 17:56.30 | synic | wait, is this Thursday the database design meeting? |
| 17:57.08 | wps | yes |
| 17:57.27 | synic | woot |
| 17:57.30 | herlo | mindjuju: If you don't know what a Makefile is, you are missing out and should learn |
| 17:57.36 | synic | I'm totally going to forget to go |
| 17:57.39 | synic | I need some sort of reminder |
| 17:57.46 | Utah_Dave | herlo: sweet! |
| 17:58.07 | mindjuju | that's why was googling, seems to mean a lot of different things to a lot of different people |
| 17:58.16 | herlo | Utah_Dave: does Thursday sound good? |
| 17:58.33 | herlo | mindjuju: consider searching for "gnu make" |
| 17:58.42 | Utah_Dave | My anniversary is on Friday. I'm not sure if I'm going to be in town or not |
| 17:58.46 | herlo | and click the first link (from a google search) |
| 17:58.54 | herlo | I can't do it this weekend, have my son in town |
| 17:58.55 | Utah_Dave | If I'm in town, that will work great |
| 17:59.30 | herlo | Utah_Dave: I could do it earlier, like tonight or something...I have something I need to do at 9pm for 15 mins but other than that.... |
| 17:59.46 | Utah_Dave | that's cool. I should know sometime today what's going to happen. |
| 18:00.02 | herlo | Utah_Dave: k, works for me, let me know... |
| 18:00.40 | synic | mindjuju: http://binary.twi.gs:8000/ices - sweet oakenfold mix |
| 18:02.37 | herlo | mindjuju: nice, but I'll have to check it out later. Instructors can't listen to music while teaching...<sucks /> |
| 18:02.47 | jsmith | herlo: Why not? I do it all the time. |
| 18:03.12 | jsmith | Ok, Ok... so maybe it's just hold music -- but that's not the point... |
| 18:05.49 | jsmith | OK, time to point my hold music to that stream ;-) |
| 18:06.05 | synic | hah |
| 18:07.56 | synic | hrmm... well, that first song was good anyway |
| 18:08.00 | synic | I hope it picks up again. |
| 18:09.18 | mindjuju | in fact, the other day, goa - psy was like this for hours, and it felt like minutes |
| 18:09.29 | synic | on DI? |
| 18:10.12 | mindjuju | yeah, that several hours stint of that "ethereal techno stuff" was on DI |
| 18:10.21 | mindjuju | like is playing on http://binary.twi.gs:8000/ices |
| 18:12.25 | synic | I wonder how much bandwidth 6 uphpu listeners takes up on our network. |
| 18:12.36 | synic | seems like not too much. |
| 18:12.45 | jsmith | synic: Hit the icecast admin screen and see ;-) |
| 18:12.57 | synic | it only shows how many are listening |
| 18:13.17 | synic | wait, I guess it says how much was sent too.... |
| 18:13.35 | jsmith | Yup. |
| 18:14.04 | jsmith | OK, time to change stations... I'm starting to slow.... down.... |
| 18:14.14 | synic | heh, yeah |
| 18:14.20 | synic | I had high hopes for this mix |
| 18:14.22 | synic | oh well |
| 18:16.36 | synic | ooh, depeche mode! |
| 18:24.14 | Utah_Dave | anybody here done much with MySQL Triggers? |
| 18:25.08 | macnewbold | not I |
| 18:25.08 | jsmith | Nope... |
| 18:25.13 | jsmith | Used them in PostgreSQL, but never in MySQL |
| 18:26.04 | Utah_Dave | I'm about to dive in... |
| 18:26.30 | Utah_Dave | If I'm not back in 5 minutes... |
| 18:26.32 | Utah_Dave | :) |
| 18:26.57 | jsmith | Well call 911 on a VoIP line, and hope the ambulance from Timbuktu can find your address |
| 18:27.05 | jsmith | s/Well/We'll/ |
| 18:32.57 | synic | heh, I dig this coldplay remix |
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| 18:36.24 | mindjuju | sup dw! |
| 18:36.46 | dataw0lf | holla |
| 18:38.43 | herlo | dataw0lf: wow, long time no talk |
| 18:47.44 | dataw0lf | herlo: sup |
| 18:48.54 | dataw0lf | http://advocacy.python.org/getinvolved for anyone interested |
| 18:53.22 | herlo | dataw0lf: I have a friend who could use some programming lessons |
| 18:53.31 | herlo | and I recommended python/php |
| 18:53.44 | dataw0lf | good stuff |
| 18:53.48 | herlo | that idea is pretty cool |
| 18:54.24 | herlo | but he first needs to understand programming concepts.. |
| 18:56.57 | dataw0lf | Python is a good way to introduce them.. |
| 19:03.50 | dataw0lf | I'm always impressed how UPHPU manages to toe the line of flame war yet never crosses it. Fairly rare for a mailing list, especially a local one. |
| 19:06.12 | synic | I've been thinking of writing an article for the site that does exactly that. |
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| 19:06.43 | synic | PS, anyone that was listening to that stream, I had to add another mix, and that's why you got booted. |
| 19:06.50 | synic | it's "Armin Van Buuren" now. |
| 19:06.57 | hhatfield | question about protected variables in php 5.2 |
| 19:07.33 | hhatfield | testing out 5.2 on a new server and a lot of our code use protected variables defined and used in the parent class |
| 19:08.34 | hhatfield | this works fine in 5.1, but in 5.2, I'm getting an error that I can't access the protected variable when I've instantiated a subclass... it makes it seem like the parent doesn't have access to the variable in the child, but the variable is actually defined in the parent |
| 19:11.03 | synic | can you pastebin an example? |
| 19:13.09 | dataw0lf | hhatfield: using eAccelerator? |
| 19:15.12 | hhatfield | yes we are using eAccelerator |
| 19:15.23 | dataw0lf | that'd be your problem. |
| 19:15.27 | hhatfield | working on a stripped out version of the code |
| 19:15.32 | hhatfield | really? |
| 19:15.45 | dataw0lf | yes |
| 19:15.47 | hhatfield | didn't even think about that... |
| 19:15.52 | dataw0lf | toggle the eaccelerator filter and tell me if it works |
| 19:19.41 | hhatfield | it seems that enabling and disabling eAccelerator in the php.ini file doesn't do anything |
| 19:20.05 | hhatfield | anything else I need to do to "toggle the filter" (i did restart apache) |
| 19:22.04 | dataw0lf | eaccelerator.filter="blah" in php.ini |
| 19:22.48 | hhatfield | that's not set at all in the php.ini file |
| 19:22.54 | dataw0lf | right |
| 19:23.18 | hhatfield | I can't get my stripped out code to duplicate the problem... so I'm going to take a deeper look to see if my actual code is just missing something |
| 19:23.25 | dataw0lf | filter out the files with the relevant code. |
| 19:23.36 | hhatfield | ok |
| 19:23.48 | dataw0lf | and doublecheck your code, obviously. |
| 19:23.53 | dataw0lf | pastebin it for us if possible |
| 19:24.13 | hhatfield | yeah... we're about to go into a staff meeting... so I'll be afk for about an hour |
| 19:24.19 | hhatfield | thanks for your suggestions so far |
| 19:24.32 | dataw0lf | np |
| 19:24.34 | dataw0lf | good luck |
| 19:24.39 | hhatfield | thx |
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| 21:02.40 | atoponce | so does it look like this combined meet will work in jan? there seems to be some positive interest |
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| 21:17.38 | macnewbold | atoponce: combined meet about what? where? combined with who? |
| 21:18.21 | atoponce | i sent an email to the group and oalug about a php workshop on jan 27 |
| 21:18.38 | macnewbold | ah |
| 21:18.52 | atoponce | wondering if uphpu would like to give presentations and help |
| 21:20.46 | atoponce | we're looking for something hands-on with exercises (practice problems and such) |
| 21:21.04 | atoponce | thinking like about 4 hours for the meet, with a break in between |
| 21:21.37 | macnewbold | I taught an "intro to php" class (about 16 hours total on two Saturdays) about 6 months ago |
| 21:21.38 | atoponce | 1st 2 hours to presentations/hands-on and the 2nd 2 hours to practicing what we've learned |
| 21:21.58 | atoponce | macnewbold: nice. i bet it was a little exhausting |
| 21:22.18 | macnewbold | hehe |
| 21:22.20 | macnewbold | for me or them? |
| 21:22.28 | atoponce | oalug wants to test the waters with these workshops once a month |
| 21:22.30 | atoponce | for you |
| 21:23.17 | atoponce | i guess on two saturdays though, it wouldn't be that bad, compared to back-to-back |
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| 21:29.56 | macnewbold | we did two four-hour blocks each day, with lunch in between |
| 21:30.04 | macnewbold | and a short break in the middle of each 4-hr block |
| 21:30.47 | atoponce | cool. how was the turnout? was it here in the valley? |
| 21:34.51 | macnewbold | it was here in SLC |
| 21:35.00 | macnewbold | we had 3 people from Logan who came down to it, too |
| 21:35.03 | macnewbold | there were about 10 of us |
| 21:35.16 | beandog | thats cool |
| 21:35.30 | macnewbold | I agreed to put it together for a small tuition fee, lower if more people signed up |
| 21:35.57 | atoponce | sweet |
| 21:36.28 | atoponce | i think we should ask for donations at the workshop, but i'm not sure if i want to charge outright... |
| 21:36.39 | macnewbold | I haven't heard too much from the people who were in the class since then, |
| 21:36.46 | macnewbold | but they all seemed pretty happy with it |
| 21:36.54 | atoponce | maybe we could sell candy and soda, and put the profit towards the group |
| 21:36.58 | macnewbold | haha |
| 21:36.59 | macnewbold | sure |
| 21:37.06 | atoponce | :-)ยป |
| 21:37.16 | beandog | no no |
| 21:37.18 | beandog | you give those away for free |
| 21:37.23 | beandog | then charge for toilet paper |
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| 21:37.54 | atoponce | haha. with exlax in it? |
| 21:38.15 | atoponce | then it would detract from the meet, and would backfire on me anyway |
| 21:39.37 | Black_Chaos | we need to call 2nd street pizza for it |
| 21:39.52 | Black_Chaos | get a discount on the pizza and then sell it for a small price |
| 21:40.40 | atoponce | ohh. good idea. we need to get a partnership with localities, and they've already expressed interest |
| 21:41.55 | atoponce | we need to get a head count when the date is approaching |
| 21:42.23 | atoponce | Black_Chaos: how many computers do you thing that cs lab had? 15? 20? |
| 21:43.09 | atoponce | if we get a bigger turnout than that, we'll need to have a backup location |
| 21:44.25 | Black_Chaos | probably like 15 |
| 21:44.59 | atoponce | maybe we should just plan for a better location outright? |
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| 22:27.09 | atoponce | ~w00t |
| 22:27.11 | jbot | w00t!!! |
| 22:27.18 | Black_Chaos | woot... |
| 22:27.35 | bigdog_ut | welcome Black_Chaos |
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| 22:29.12 | drip | bigdog_ut: you know that's going to make you intolerant |
| 22:29.23 | bigdog_ut | very much so |
| 22:29.47 | bigdog_ut | and the prison sex is going to kill someone...unless they are truly sober |
| 22:29.51 | drip | just making sure. |
| 22:30.03 | bigdog_ut | but most likely they will just crawl away |
| 22:30.09 | drip | I don't think sobriety has anything to do with it. |
| 22:30.18 | drip | lol |
| 22:30.38 | bigdog_ut | one of my all time fav albums |
| 22:30.52 | drip | yeah.. a very good album. |
| 22:30.59 | drip | I used to ski to that a lot. |
| 22:31.29 | drip | time to go try to beat traffic home. |
| 22:31.30 | drip | cyl |
| 22:31.39 | bigdog_ut | l8trz |
| 22:41.08 | tierra | mindjuju: the opacity line you gave me works for Firefox, and I'm guessing IE6 (I don't have it anymore with the updates), but doesn't for IE7. You know of anything to get it working in IE7 and possibly Opera and Safari |
| 22:51.52 | tierra | well, I got Safari and Opera working, still no IE7 though |
| 23:13.14 | herlo | Utah_Dave: any response from the boss? |
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| 23:33.41 | tierra | I can't seem to get any opacity tricks working in IE7, this is annoying |
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| 23:35.58 | tierra | mindjuju: you probably want to replace "-moz-opacity" for just "opacity" btw, it's been in Firefox since 0.9, and works in Safari and Opera |
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| 23:59.59 | mindjuju | sorry, had to do some heavy intra-departamental negotiations |