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| 00:03.27 | dataw0lf | jeepers |
| 00:03.49 | macnewbold | howdy |
| 00:04.05 | dataw0lf | how's work mac? |
| 00:04.12 | macnewbold | that's odd... you're coming in to freenode from dialup in sanjose.level3.net |
| 00:04.13 | macnewbold | good |
| 00:04.16 | macnewbold | it's been going really good |
| 00:04.23 | macnewbold | we've got 5 of us full time here now |
| 00:04.29 | dataw0lf | dang |
| 00:04.38 | macnewbold | had one go PT->FT in may, and another guy started FT in june |
| 00:04.43 | dataw0lf | yea, can't get any internet except satellite and dialup up here on the mountain |
| 00:04.54 | dataw0lf | still PHP primarily? |
| 00:05.05 | macnewbold | and until one of our guys wanted to pick up an extra 15-20 hrs/week, we were looking for another part timer |
| 00:05.05 | dataw0lf | anyone I know? |
| 00:05.10 | macnewbold | yeah, php stuff |
| 00:05.15 | macnewbold | it's been going really well |
| 00:05.21 | macnewbold | nobody you know yet |
| 00:05.29 | dataw0lf | that's awesome |
| 00:05.29 | dataw0lf | PHP market booming in SLC? |
| 00:05.34 | macnewbold | though we've been talking to a guy or two that you might know, but nothing I can announce yet |
| 00:05.41 | macnewbold | it's been doing better, I think |
| 00:06.02 | dataw0lf | coolio |
| 00:06.02 | dataw0lf | on both counts |
| 00:06.06 | macnewbold | other people were commenting that it seemed like web devs were in higher demand, and that prices had been going up a bit |
| 00:06.19 | macnewbold | php is being looked down on less and less I think |
| 00:06.28 | dataw0lf | yea, I've noticed that in pretty much all the job markets I've taken a looksie at |
| 00:06.42 | dataw0lf | especially San Fran, but it's always been progressive |
| 00:07.08 | dataw0lf | I might move there next year to work in our main offices, if everything turns out well |
| 00:07.13 | macnewbold | cool |
| 00:07.14 | dataw0lf | but my sights are still on Oregon eventually |
| 00:07.34 | macnewbold | the pay is great in Cali, by Utah standards, but the cost of living really bursts your bubble |
| 00:07.40 | dataw0lf | yea, no kidding. |
| 00:07.53 | macnewbold | but hey, if I moved my house to Cali, it would be worth over half a million I bet |
| 00:08.06 | dataw0lf | our company has a couple apartment buildings in San Mateo that they can get us great deals on, though |
| 00:08.11 | macnewbold | very nice |
| 00:08.14 | macnewbold | that's the way to do it |
| 00:08.19 | dataw0lf | true that. |
| 00:08.33 | macnewbold | if you buy land and own living spaces, you can really sugar up a deal |
| 00:08.42 | macnewbold | as long as they don't mind their neighbors/coworkers |
| 00:09.06 | dataw0lf | yea, I'm going to take a tour when I visit on wednesday. |
| 00:09.12 | macnewbold | or pull a google, and run a shuttle bus :) |
| 00:09.30 | dataw0lf | hehe, I was *this* close to working at Google |
| 00:09.49 | dataw0lf | cost of living really decided the issue though |
| 00:10.55 | macnewbold | yeah, I know a sysadmin out here who was offered a job making like $40-70K more than she makes here, |
| 00:11.07 | macnewbold | but with cost of living, she would have ended up with _less_ disposable income there than here |
| 00:11.15 | dataw0lf | yea, they have some really awesome offers, but you factor in the cost of living.. |
| 00:11.17 | dataw0lf | exactly |
| 00:11.27 | dataw0lf | their interviews are pretty awesome though, it was worth it just for that experience. |
| 00:12.32 | dataw0lf | if they're still Python heavy in three years or so, I'll probably finish out my sys admin experience there |
| 00:12.45 | dataw0lf | or network security, mebbe |
| 00:13.22 | dataw0lf | I'm just glad to be at a job that I've wanted for a while in an excellent location |
| 00:13.27 | dataw0lf | I'm pretty sold on Reno now. |
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| 00:50.08 | mindjuju | nobody fear, i've returned |
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| 01:39.49 | mindjuju | anybody round? |
| 01:40.12 | timinator | I am... but a bit busy right now |
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| 03:40.34 | herlo | Utah_Dav1: hola |
| 03:43.54 | mindjuju | was going to say, i don't think anybody is here |
| 03:51.08 | macnewbold | hi y'all |
| 03:51.45 | mindjuju | we'll all be! |
| 03:52.10 | mindjuju | doing gradefix work, macnewbold? |
| 03:52.19 | macnewbold | hehe, of course |
| 03:52.29 | macnewbold | trying to get the email reminder system built |
| 03:55.31 | herlo | mindjuju: I am here |
| 03:55.48 | herlo | macnewbold: I wrote one of those a while back, too bad I don't know where the code is right now... |
| 03:56.10 | herlo | it did not only email reminder, but also did pager/cell reminders as well |
| 03:56.36 | macnewbold | yeah, we're going to be doing that too |
| 03:56.45 | macnewbold | so herlo, what did you do on the pager/cell stuff? |
| 03:56.57 | macnewbold | ask for their provider, and phone number, and convert it to an email address that you mailed to? |
| 03:57.03 | macnewbold | or did you have some other magic? |
| 03:57.11 | herlo | I figured out what the email addresses where for cell/pagers, and sent it off |
| 03:57.15 | macnewbold | cool |
| 03:57.22 | macnewbold | I'm going to be compiling such a list soon too |
| 03:57.24 | herlo | you could also use teleflip.com |
| 03:57.30 | macnewbold | oh yeah? does that do it? |
| 03:57.32 | herlo | teleflip does the hard work for you |
| 03:57.38 | herlo | yep |
| 03:57.41 | macnewbold | wow, nice |
| 03:57.57 | herlo | yeah, I get regular pages from lars-ut via teleflip |
| 03:58.13 | macnewbold | ah, first one hundred are free each month |
| 03:58.16 | herlo | and I think it's pretty stable now...took them a while to become stable... |
| 03:58.24 | herlo | macnewbold: that must be a new feature |
| 03:58.33 | herlo | it was originally 100% free |
| 03:58.38 | macnewbold | hm |
| 03:59.00 | macnewbold | I don't mind doing the part of making an email address based on their provider, |
| 03:59.11 | macnewbold | I don't even care about figuring out their provider from the phone number |
| 03:59.14 | macnewbold | I'll just ask them |
| 03:59.57 | macnewbold | but I need to make up a list of providers and how they make up their email addresses |
| 04:00.24 | mindjuju | i'd like to offer something similar, actually |
| 04:00.27 | herlo | yeah, that's not too hard actually. Each provider has a site where you can send pages via email, and it usually tells you right there |
| 04:00.31 | mindjuju | hadn't had the time to research yet |
| 04:00.44 | herlo | we should start an open source project that competes with teleflip |
| 04:01.24 | herlo | write it all in PHP...make it easy to configure, then spread the joy |
| 04:01.50 | macnewbold | haha |
| 04:01.51 | macnewbold | yeah, totally |
| 04:01.58 | herlo | :-D |
| 04:02.29 | macnewbold | to start with, I need to find or compile a list of US providers, then expand to international providers where possible |
| 04:02.33 | macnewbold | though lower priority |
| 04:05.32 | herlo | right, so you've got the big 4 or 5 I suppose, Verizon, T-Mobile, Cingular, Sprint, Cricket |
| 04:05.52 | herlo | probably others, smaller and harder to find |
| 04:06.25 | macnewbold | http://teleflip.com/support/supportmain.htm#faq9a |
| 04:06.46 | macnewbold | haha |
| 04:06.51 | macnewbold | thanks for the link herlo |
| 04:06.58 | mindjuju | beautiful, that's exactly the list i was scratching my head trying to find |
| 04:07.00 | herlo | macnewbold: no problem... |
| 04:07.14 | herlo | sounds like they've done all the work for you |
| 04:09.21 | macnewbold | now I just need to dig up how their email addresses work for each of those |
| 04:09.30 | macnewbold | mindjuju: if I do it first, I'll let you know what I find |
| 04:09.41 | macnewbold | verizon is #@vtext.com |
| 04:09.59 | mindjuju | was going to say, we could do a tech share, you start from the top, i'll do the bottom |
| 04:10.12 | macnewbold | either way |
| 04:10.39 | mindjuju | you can do the PHP version and I'll do one for CF |
| 04:11.11 | macnewbold | ouch |
| 04:11.17 | macnewbold | really it's just an array |
| 04:11.37 | macnewbold | given a provider, you get a mask for the email address, then you just have a function that plugs it in |
| 04:11.45 | herlo | macnewbold: I know for sprint its 10digitphone#@sprintpcs.com |
| 04:11.49 | macnewbold | then you email it |
| 04:11.56 | macnewbold | nice, that's two down, 9 to go |
| 04:12.29 | herlo | what you need to figure out is what prefixes go with what providers generally, but now that there is number portability, it'd be hell trying to keep it correct |
| 04:12.35 | macnewbold | oh yeah |
| 04:12.40 | macnewbold | and that's what teleflip disclaims |
| 04:12.49 | macnewbold | it would be okay for a guess at provider, |
| 04:12.54 | macnewbold | but there's no way I'm going to track all of it |
| 04:12.54 | herlo | yep |
| 04:13.06 | macnewbold | after I get some users in the system, I'll have prefixes to work from :) |
| 04:13.10 | macnewbold | build up the database as I go |
| 04:13.12 | mindjuju | course, i guess you technically could fire it to everybody and the one who works ... |
| 04:13.22 | herlo | I say it would have to be a phone number, then ask for provider, if they don't know, guess |
| 04:13.25 | macnewbold | yeah, totally |
| 04:13.39 | macnewbold | you could use existing pairs of # and provider to default the list for them |
| 04:13.47 | macnewbold | we think you've got a verizon phone, but here's the list: |
| 04:13.49 | macnewbold | etc |
| 04:14.01 | herlo | mindjuju: but doing that means several returned messages...guess it just means more mess to clean up after... |
| 04:14.12 | macnewbold | but you only have to do that once :) |
| 04:14.18 | macnewbold | after that you know which one worked usually, right? |
| 04:14.31 | macnewbold | or you tell them something like this: |
| 04:14.51 | macnewbold | don't know your provider? we'll send you a message with your provider's name in it, then you can put it in. |
| 04:15.12 | macnewbold | then you send a msg with "you're using verizon" to #@vtext.com and "you're on sprint" to #@sprintpcs.com, etc |
| 04:15.19 | macnewbold | and the one the receive is it |
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| 04:15.40 | herlo | could work |
| 04:15.54 | mindjuju | by the way, i'm doing the canadians right now, have 1 working on the other 3 |
| 04:15.56 | herlo | but usually I would not send messages to myself |
| 04:16.07 | herlo | Canadians? |
| 04:16.16 | herlo | too much work!! :-( |
| 04:16.50 | macnewbold | how that is too much work |
| 04:16.51 | mindjuju | oh, i do need canada, but if you don't i can stay US until we get those done then swing around and catch canada |
| 04:16.54 | herlo | hola Utah_Dave |
| 04:16.57 | macnewbold | fc6 -> thumbs down |
| 04:17.00 | macnewbold | freebsd++ |
| 04:17.07 | macnewbold | I need canada too |
| 04:17.11 | mindjuju | d |
| 04:17.15 | mindjuju | oops, k |
| 04:17.19 | macnewbold | haha |
| 04:17.23 | herlo | macnewbold: you gotta try fc6 before you knock it. I've got virtualization working out of the box |
| 04:18.51 | herlo | firefox 2.0 rules!! |
| 04:24.30 | mindjuju | Here's Canada |
| 04:24.30 | mindjuju | TELUS MOBILITY - 4031234567@msg.telus.com |
| 04:24.30 | mindjuju | ROGERS WIRELESS - number@pcs.rogers.com |
| 04:24.30 | mindjuju | FIDO - 5551234567@fido.ca |
| 04:24.30 | mindjuju | BELL MOBILITY - 4160000000@txt.bell.ca |
| 04:24.53 | mindjuju | macnewbold, which way you going on the US list? Up going down or vice versa? |
| 04:25.05 | macnewbold | I can do either |
| 04:25.10 | macnewbold | we've got qwest and sprint already |
| 04:25.15 | macnewbold | which do you want? |
| 04:25.22 | mindjuju | i'll do alltel, going down |
| 04:25.25 | macnewbold | k |
| 04:25.27 | macnewbold | I'll start up |
| 04:26.06 | macnewbold | mindjuju, herlo: http://www.notepage.net/smtp.htm |
| 04:26.29 | herlo | macnewbold: just in time, I got ff2 back |
| 04:26.33 | mindjuju | wow |
| 04:26.35 | macnewbold | yeah |
| 04:26.37 | macnewbold | double wow |
| 04:26.45 | herlo | nice!! |
| 04:26.48 | mindjuju | that's everybody me thinks |
| 04:26.57 | macnewbold | and it's got quite a few international ones |
| 04:26.57 | herlo | or close to it |
| 04:27.54 | mindjuju | that's europe, uh, i think that is worldwide list |
| 04:28.42 | mindjuju | there's england, and czech repub |
| 04:31.18 | macnewbold | yeah, russia, japan, ukraine, phillipines, denmark, france |
| 04:31.25 | macnewbold | they've got a ton on that list |
| 04:31.36 | macnewbold | and if you google for some of those together, I bet you could find other lists too |
| 04:31.39 | macnewbold | that might have others |
| 04:32.25 | mindjuju | true that, but now we're back to square 1 on how to find the provider by cell phone case shooting out 10 to find 1 is reasonable, but shooting 200 to find one will get you blacklisted |
| 04:32.32 | mindjuju | well, maybe |
| 04:32.45 | mindjuju | so i'm searching on articles about finding providers from numbers |
| 04:32.52 | macnewbold | yes, it works |
| 04:32.56 | macnewbold | http://freesms.1888usa.com/ |
| 04:33.55 | macnewbold | http://www.rememberthemilk.com/help/answers/reminders/smsnetworks.rtm |
| 04:34.12 | macnewbold | http://wiki.43folders.com/index.php/Phone_hacks#Email_to_phone |
| 04:34.38 | macnewbold | http://www.livejournal.com/tools/textmessage.bml?mode=details |
| 04:34.43 | macnewbold | check those out |
| 04:34.59 | herlo | lots of research has gone into this topic hasn't it |
| 04:35.23 | mindjuju | curious |
| 04:35.28 | mindjuju | If you don't know someone's carrier, you can use a reverse lookup service such as White Pages. (Of course, it's probably better to ask the person, since they may not even use or pay attention to their text messaging service. Also with number portability people can keep their number but move providers.) |
| 04:35.29 | macnewbold | oh, and want to look up carrier from the phone number? |
| 04:35.31 | macnewbold | http://www.1888usa.com/cgi-bin/to/to.cgi?l=.revlookupcell |
| 04:35.32 | macnewbold | yep |
| 04:35.51 | herlo | cool |
| 04:45.23 | Utah_Dave | how's it going, herlo? |
| 04:45.55 | herlo | good Utah_Dave, been busy I have, you? |
| 04:46.14 | Utah_Dave | I've been really busy, too |
| 04:46.21 | herlo | thought I'd touch base with you and see if you wanted to do some coding/designing this weekend....maybe at Thxgiving point again... |
| 04:46.39 | Utah_Dave | Hm, that sounds like fun |
| 04:46.47 | Utah_Dave | I'm flying out to New York on Monday |
| 04:47.00 | Utah_Dave | It's going to be an easy trip, so I'm going to have a lot of time to hack |
| 04:47.34 | Utah_Dave | I'm going to rip into some code finally. I've been so caught up in this rewrite project at work I haven't had time for much else |
| 04:48.24 | herlo | yeah, my life's been hellish as well. Hopefully next week will be light work. |
| 04:48.33 | herlo | More time for coding LardWars |
| 04:48.40 | Utah_Dave | yup |
| 04:49.04 | Utah_Dave | ci 1.5.0 is out. It's sweet. I've already upgrade my app at work |
| 05:19.16 | Utah_Dave | herlo: if Saturday doesn't work, the following Saturday would probably be good |
| 05:19.39 | herlo | k, but I think Sat morning will work, is that good for you? |
| 05:20.25 | herlo | I still need to spend some more time working on the Makefile stuff in windows, so maybe I can get that working tomorrow... |
| 05:21.00 | Utah_Dave | ok, I'd better check with my better half to make sure she hasn't planned anything, but Sat morning should work for me |
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| 07:45.57 | mindjuju | yipes! |
| 07:46.28 | herlo | mindjuju: but tor is good, my friend |
| 07:46.40 | mindjuju | TOR like The Onion Router? |
| 07:47.02 | herlo | my fracking hotel blocks every bit of traffic they can, except now, I am running through an http anonymous proxy....woohoo |
| 07:47.05 | herlo | mindjuju: exactly |
| 07:47.53 | mindjuju | yup TOR rocks! |
| 07:48.23 | herlo | I am so happy!! |
| 07:48.23 | herlo | :-D |
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| 07:52.22 | herlo | tor is obviously not completely stable though... |
| 07:52.43 | mindjuju | really? i thought it was in production already? |
| 07:53.05 | mindjuju | by that i mean that disidents in represive countries were already using it |
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| 15:42.51 | Utah_Dave | sup, bigdog_ut |
| 15:43.03 | bigdog_ut | not too much...just tired today |
| 15:43.55 | Utah_Dave | me, too. I stayed up way too late last night |
| 15:52.50 | herlo | Utah_Dave: bigdog_ut: how late is late? |
| 15:53.11 | bigdog_ut | i was up till about 2am and then backup at 7am |
| 15:53.53 | herlo | I think it's just the lack of sleep, but I felt like challenging you all to a "lack of sleep" battle |
| 15:54.13 | Utah_Dave | 1:00 am |
| 15:54.24 | herlo | mine, 3:50am (or so), awoke 7:30 am |
| 15:54.25 | Utah_Dave | at work at 8 |
| 15:54.50 | herlo | blah |
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| 16:01.19 | herlo | see you on the flip side! |
| 16:02.38 | Lenolium | Hey, has anyone here ever dealt with postgresql's inherited tables? |
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| 16:13.10 | _psychic_ | anyone checked out php 5.2 yet |
| 16:13.12 | _psychic_ | ? |
| 16:13.17 | bigdog_ut | Lenolium, yah |
| 16:14.33 | _psychic_ | I'm looking for more info on "Hooks for tracking file upload progress were introduced." |
| 16:14.41 | _psychic_ | The JSON and ZIP stuff looks pretty cool |
| 16:15.43 | jsmith | _psychic_: When you find it, let us all know ;-) |
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| 16:17.38 | _psychic_ | for a price! |
| 16:18.45 | _psychic_ | if those lines give me access to 20$ of your bank account, you've got a deal |
| 16:21.09 | jsmith | _psychic_: Sure... but that bank account has a zero balance right now |
| 16:21.27 | _psychic_ | I don't mind an overdraft if you don't. |
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| 16:47.21 | bigdog_ut | Lenolium, did you need help with pgsql |
| 16:51.30 | Lenolium | bigdog_ut: Naw, I just wanted to know if there were any downsides to using the inherited tables. Because they are too awesome to not use. |
| 16:52.28 | bigdog_ut | there is some downside |
| 16:53.56 | bigdog_ut | sometimes permissions dont inherit properly |
| 16:55.18 | bigdog_ut | and contraints is the thing that gets me a little |
| 16:55.28 | Lenolium | Yeah, I read on postgresql's site about permissions and index inheritance. I was wondering more about speed. But the folks in #postgresql seem to think it's just fine for speed. |
| 16:56.20 | bigdog_ut | i dont think there is any speed issues |
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| 16:56.20 | bigdog_ut | atleast i have not seen any |
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| 16:56.21 | Lenolium | Cool. |
| 16:56.22 | Lenolium | Man, I wish more people knew how cool postgresql was. |
| 17:05.03 | macnewbold | ~lart posgresql |
| 17:05.12 | macnewbold | s/posgre/postgre/ |
| 17:06.00 | bigdog_ut | lol |
| 17:06.16 | bigdog_ut | Lenolium, macnewbold is a mysql fan...you have to forgive him |
| 17:06.48 | Lenolium | bigdog_ut: How cute. |
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| 17:09.35 | synic | haha. |
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| 17:11.04 | timinator | mindjuju: you want to share my popcorn? |
| 17:11.13 | mindjuju | would love to! |
| 17:12.29 | drip | ~lart mindjuju's popcorn |
| 17:12.56 | timinator | dude, that was totally messed up |
| 17:13.03 | timinator | why would you do that? |
| 17:13.14 | timinator | Drip: that was my popcorn |
| 17:13.22 | timinator | ~lart drip |
| 17:13.35 | timinator | that takes care of that |
| 17:13.35 | drip | hmm.. i must have been popcorn flavored. |
| 17:14.51 | timinator | TY drip |
| 17:15.08 | drip | kettlecorn |
| 17:15.13 | timinator | nice |
| 17:15.18 | drip | ;-) |
| 17:17.37 | timinator | very well; you may commence w/ the MySQL/PostgreSQL war |
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| 17:26.32 | mindjuju | hey, where's the fighting? |
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| 17:34.35 | Lenolium | I do wish that postgres had builtin replication instead of having to use slony. But I'm excited for slony2 to come out so we can have multi-master. |
| 17:35.00 | Lenolium | Oh, and mysql cluster mode is neat, I wish postgres had that. (Particularly a mode that actually used disks instead of just ram) |
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| 17:36.02 | mindjuju | bummer... no reaction. everybody must be sleeping |
| 17:36.50 | Lenolium | You need better bait. |
| 17:36.54 | timinator | LOL |
| 17:38.01 | Lenolium | Try my two favorites: MySQL fails under concurrent read/write scenarios, and the MySQL client library is GPL, so anything that links against it has to be open source. |
| 17:39.25 | mindjuju | With the new MS paradigm of security, is it any wonder that MS SQL 2k5 is the market leader for performance, security and scalability beating down other databases like postgres , mysql and oracle |
| 17:39.41 | Lenolium | The second one is only true if you aren't using the version 3 client library (which still connects just fine if you set some things in your my.cnf). But it still upset me greatly when they switched from LGPL to GPL. |
| 17:39.44 | timinator | and what are the main drawbacks to PostgreSQL, that you see? |
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| 17:54.34 | Lenolium | Neat, php 5.2 now has the included/required files can't be a url permission control. |
| 17:54.58 | wps | what does that mean? |
| 17:56.33 | Lenolium | That if you have insecure code, you are just a hair safer now. Because if you do something stupid like include($_REQUEST['module_name']); the user can no longer put "http://malicious.site.com/somescript.php" into module_name and have it actually work. |
| 17:57.06 | synic | wow, I'm not sure if I can wait until 12:30 for lunch |
| 17:57.17 | Utah_Dave | why are we doing lunch so late? |
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| 17:57.56 | timinator | so does that mean that include files are URL specific only now? |
| 17:58.15 | timinator | so /var/www....../file.php wouldn't work? |
| 17:58.51 | Lenolium | timinator: No, they can still hose you by doing that. Unless you set your open_basedir or whatever correctly, then I think you are safe. |
| 17:59.26 | timinator | cool |
| 18:00.24 | timinator | so if you don't put vars in the include/require statement, you won't see the change? |
| 18:01.01 | Lenolium | If you are requiring' a hardcoded URL, you will be affected by the change, but you can change that setting to put it back to where it was. |
| 18:01.58 | Lenolium | It's just nice because now you can enable fopen("http://www.bob.com/"); and disable require_once("http://www.foo.com/"); |
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| 18:17.21 | synic | woot, my dad is coming to lunch |
| 18:17.41 | synic | he's sort of a psuedo geek, he knows RyanE |
| 18:18.32 | mindjuju | that cool! |
| 18:18.36 | mindjuju | the more the merrier |
| 18:18.58 | synic | (he just happens to live in Highland, so I figured I'd invite him) |
| 18:19.39 | synic | where exactly is the Thai Village? |
| 18:19.48 | synic | I know AF pretty well |
| 18:20.09 | herlo | mindjuju: is RyanE actually going to the lunch? |
| 18:21.34 | herlo | synic: near that one building, kinda by the other buildings... |
| 18:21.40 | synic | ah, awesome |
| 18:22.09 | Utah_Dave | herlo: are you going to the lunch? |
| 18:22.34 | herlo | Utah_Dave: I wish |
| 18:22.48 | herlo | currently in San Fran, don't get home til 9pm tonight |
| 18:22.57 | mindjuju | not sure about ryane, haven't heard |
| 18:23.19 | herlo | mindjuju: probably not then... |
| 18:25.41 | herlo | we works in Draper I believe |
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| 20:27.55 | dataw0lf | http://www.ilovejackdaniels.com/cheat-sheets/php-cheat-sheet/ |
| 20:28.35 | timinator | mmmm jack |
| 20:28.54 | dataw0lf | there's also a JavaScript and MySQL cheatsheet on that site, never used em before though |
| 20:29.03 | dataw0lf | mmmmmMMMMMMmmmm jack! |
| 20:30.29 | dataw0lf | mod_rewrite and CSS cheatsheets too, o_O |
| 20:34.35 | timinator | nice |
| 20:34.38 | timinator | thx for the link |
| 20:34.57 | timinator | jack and cheat sheets.... nice mix |
| 20:35.22 | timinator | does anyone know how to set an away status? |
| 20:35.30 | timinator | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:39.56 | fungus | Works fine for me |
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| 20:45.20 | dataw0lf | np |
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| 20:59.44 | wps | interesting |
| 20:59.51 | wps | there is a PHP users group just for women |
| 20:59.52 | wps | http://www.phpwomen.org |
| 21:00.29 | jsmith | Interesting... |
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| 21:01.09 | _psychic_ | #phpwomen |
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| 21:20.08 | tierra | how did I not know about that? |
| 21:20.22 | tierra | you guys suck, I'm joining phpwomen |
| 21:21.44 | tierra | good lunch btw |
| 21:21.56 | mindjuju | yup, good eats |
| 21:25.04 | xilch|w | yeah, I missed it |
| 21:25.08 | xilch|w | I blame synic |
| 21:25.26 | gthornock | It was good. I'll have to go there again sometime. |
| 21:25.43 | xilch|w | but he's at fault for pretty much anything negative that happens |
| 21:27.34 | mindjuju | darn that synic! |
| 21:28.16 | *** topic/#UPHPU by mindjuju -> PHP Group for manly men UPHPU | http://www.uphpu.org |
| 21:29.10 | mindjuju | i changed the topic so that we'd clearly differentiate from that php women's group |
| 21:29.44 | xilch|w | but that topic implies I can't hang here anymore :( |
| 21:29.59 | mindjuju | are you not a manly man? |
| 21:30.11 | xilch|w | sadly, no |
| 21:30.26 | xilch|w | I'm squishy, like mud |
| 21:33.23 | mindjuju | xilch|w Can you say yes to any one of these questions? |
| 21:33.28 | mindjuju | 1. Beard starts to show in at least 2 days |
| 21:33.28 | mindjuju | 2. Enjoys watching car crashes on tv |
| 21:33.28 | mindjuju | 3. can belch to the letter D |
| 21:33.28 | mindjuju | 4. Can look under the hood of a car and identify 3 parts correctly |
| 21:35.26 | mindjuju | if you can answer yes to any one of these you qualify as a manly man! |
| 21:35.41 | mindjuju | which ones do you qualify on jsmith? |
| 21:36.02 | jsmith | 1,2,4, and maybe 3. |
| 21:36.05 | fungus | I can answer yest to #4, but that's it. |
| 21:36.41 | mindjuju | you konw for num 4. i was thinking that should change. it should say: |
| 21:36.57 | jsmith | 4. Can change your own oil |
| 21:37.10 | mindjuju | 4. Can look under the hood of a car and identify 3 parts correctly OR knows how to kick tire AND say Hmmmm... while shopping for cars |
| 21:37.29 | mindjuju | not that you understand why you kicked the tire, only that you know you should |
| 21:39.14 | fungus | I am glad 4 was so easy. It takes me weeks to grow a tiny mustache, I hate watching most TV, especially Spike and G4 (unless Trek is on), My belches are loud, but really short. |
| 21:40.40 | jsmith | fungus: Maybe #1 is a good thing... I shaved two days ago, and right now I'm too hairy to go out in public |
| 21:41.10 | xilch|w | I got 1 just barely, and 4 |
| 21:41.25 | xilch|w | well, I guess I got 2 pretty square too |
| 21:42.07 | jsmith | We could change #2 to be "car crashes or science fiction on tv" |
| 21:42.25 | mindjuju | i think i'll allow that |
| 21:42.34 | mindjuju | not that i'm in charge or anything |
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| 21:56.44 | synic | it's not my fault! |
| 21:57.31 | macnewbold | ~friday everyone |
| 21:57.55 | macnewbold | I was seriously debating not working the rest of the afternoon, but reason won out this time :( |
| 21:59.02 | herlo | how was the lunch? |
| 21:59.26 | synic | it was good |
| 21:59.42 | herlo | lots of good ideas floating around I bet... |
| 22:00.56 | synic | yeah, my dad talked about a goat standing on a dog house eating the shingles. |
| 22:02.47 | tierra | and saying "dad" |
| 22:03.55 | tierra | then after synic left, we talking about what a hippie he is |
| 22:04.03 | tierra | s/talking/talked |
| 22:04.52 | tierra | then got into conversation about Windows vs Mac vs Linux/GNOME |
| 22:05.06 | tierra | then into talk about IDEs |
| 22:05.13 | synic | I'm not a hippie |
| 22:05.48 | jsmith | One more black eye for PHP with regards to security: http://www.hardened-php.net/advisory_132006.138.html |
| 22:06.02 | jsmith | The very things trying to keep us secure make us more vulnerable |
| 22:06.14 | synic | I just forget to get a haircut occasionally |
| 22:06.19 | synic | :P |
| 22:06.32 | synic | and that smell is, well, I dunno |
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