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00:06.05bigdog_utmindjuju, you got that installed yet
00:08.45mindjujuk, it's installed
00:08.58mindjujubut i can't use IM and the game at the same time
00:09.18bigdog_utok let me find a server
00:09.21mindjujuk
00:09.26bigdog_utdo you know how to select a server?
00:09.38bigdog_utjoin game
00:09.39mindjujuwell, when i had it up, it said join a server so i'm guessing there
00:09.42mindjujuyup, somehting like that
00:09.43bigdog_utfind server
00:11.57bigdog_utfind this one: tad.dyndns.com chicken page 4 i think
00:12.18mindjujuk, so when i go there, then what to do?
00:12.26bigdog_utill be red
00:12.31bigdog_utyou mouse to control and kill me
00:12.33mindjujuk, hang on
00:15.25bigdog_utk
00:16.30bigdog_utlet me find another one i dont like that map too hard for ya
00:17.03bigdog_utpage 21
00:17.17bigdog_utthinkdifferntly server
00:17.34bigdog_utu green me purple
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00:24.52tan_gauchoevery time i click on my second monitor it freezes the game
00:24.55tan_gauchohang on quick sec
00:29.21bigdog_uti had to bail...i need to head home now
00:31.42tan_gauchocya
00:34.29bigdog_utl8trz
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04:41.17macnewboldhttp://blog.moertel.com/articles/2006/10/18/a-type-based-solution-to-the-strings-problem
04:54.14beandogintresting
04:54.22beandogwhat would be really nice if all the databases followed one standard
04:54.24beandogthat'd help.
05:11.59mindjujuhere i thought i was the only one crazy enough to be on this late
05:12.40macnewboldhehe
05:12.41macnewboldnope
05:12.51mindjujuyou doing gradefix stuff?
05:13.19macnewboldhow'd you guess? :)
05:31.53beandoginstead Im wrestling with mythtv .... again.
05:34.11beandogmy crap
05:34.16beandogIve got 175 Seinfeld episodes recorded
05:39.56mindjujuhow you liking mythtv -- despite your current statements of having problems with it
05:40.01mindjujui was thinking of running myth
05:40.26beandogwell
05:40.36beandogif there was something else that worked as well, Id use it.
05:40.48mindjujuyup, that's what I've heard
05:40.49beandogIf you want a PVR on linux, its pretty much the only solution right now
05:43.44macnewboldwell, g'night all
05:43.49*** mode/#UPHPU [+vv beandog jnbek] by macnewbold
05:44.01macnewboldsee y'all tomorrow
05:46.10beandognite
06:11.13mindjujulove malcolm in the middle
06:11.20mindjujudidn't get to see how it ended though :(
06:36.53beandogyah I havent recorded that one yet
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15:18.14bigdog_ut~shout
15:18.15jbotACTION screams NOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooOOOOoooooOOOOooo!!!1!!11!!!
15:33.12macnewbold~wake bigdog_ut
15:33.16jbotACTION throws a barrel-full of ice water on bigdog_ut and shouts "GOOD MORNING!!!!"
15:33.20macnewbold~wake el_gaucho
15:33.22jbotACTION throws a barrel-full of ice water on el_gaucho and shouts "GOOD MORNING!!!!"
15:33.35bigdog_utty mac
15:35.08macnewboldhow's it goin?
15:36.08*** topic/#UPHPU by wps -> meeting tonight!
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15:44.02timinatormornin' all
15:44.14timinator~lart mornings
15:45.22dripmornin' on ya
16:02.29bigdog_utmacnewbold, things are good...just working like a mad dog
16:02.43macnewboldyeah, that happens
16:02.56macnewboldbut what else would a bigdog expect
16:03.05bigdog_utexactly
16:03.07macnewbold~rename bigdog_ut maddog_ud
16:18.42wpsha ha ha, not 24 hours after MSIE 7 is released a security vulnerability is already discovered
16:19.12timinatorLOL
16:19.48timinatordid you hear that there are some iPod Videos w/ a virus... and apple said that it
16:20.04wpsyeah… very funny
16:20.09bigdog_utnice
16:20.15timinatorit's a windows venerability, and the news is acting like apple is pointing fingers
16:20.20wpscame from a third-party manufacturer that had an infected computer
16:20.27timinatorno doubt
16:42.24beandogwps: really?  linkie?
16:42.39beandogWhats gonna really suck is that you cant run IE6 and 7 side by side.
16:43.13beandogWindows needs slotted installs. ;)
16:43.59wpslink to IE 7 or viri on iPods?
16:44.16beandogie7
16:44.22wpshttp://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/default.mspx?mg_ID=10010
16:44.42beandogoh I meant about the security vuln
16:44.52wpsah
16:45.09wpshttp://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/10/19/1326247&from=rss
16:45.35beandogah, slashdot
16:45.37beandogI should have guessed.
16:49.07beandogman that thing is branded.
16:50.41beandogwell, n/m, their screenshots are.
17:24.09macnewboldhttp://bash.org/?700435
17:28.33beandogeverytime I see a bash.org link, Im afraid its going to be something stupid I said that was immortalized
17:29.29macnewboldhttp://bash.org/?127148
17:29.32macnewboldnope, they're not
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17:31.58bigdog_uthttp://bash.org/?700847
17:33.39bigdog_uthttp://bash.org/?700280
17:34.22bigdog_utmy fav goes to this one -> http://bash.org/?700091
17:48.11bigdog_utanyone using apache2 + php4
17:48.18bigdog_utsorry apachee2 + php5
17:48.23synicyeah
17:48.50bigdog_utsynic, you done any webservices with php5?
17:49.01synicnope.
17:49.21bigdog_utk
17:49.34synicphp5 came out just in time for me to not use it
17:49.42synic*sigh*
17:49.47bigdog_utyeah
17:50.15bigdog_utim just having issues with the script not sending data after about 40 requests...im thinking it might be a multithread issue with it
17:50.19bigdog_utnot sure
17:50.37synicI am running a few forums on it without issues
17:50.50_psychic_I thought threading problems only happen with certain extensions
17:52.57bigdog_utim wondering if it is libxml that is having the problem
17:57.31Utah_Davewps: can I hit you up for a quick css question? regarding the examples you created?
18:00.03Utah_DaveOK, I want to combine two of wps' examples
18:00.07Utah_Davehttp://www.anavidesign.com/temp/layout/?stylesheet=5
18:00.12Utah_Daveand
18:00.13Utah_Davehttp://www.anavidesign.com/temp/layout/?stylesheet=2
18:00.32Utah_Davebasically I want to add the horizontal nav from the second example to the first example
18:00.48Utah_Daveso that the first example has a horizontal and vertical navigation
18:01.34Utah_Davecan I just add another div and give it the same style as the original horizontal nav?
18:02.01_psychic_so you want a sort of double header?
18:02.11Utah_Daveyeah
18:02.32Utah_Davea header with a row of links below it
18:02.37_psychic_right after <div id="title">title</div>
18:02.43_psychic_stick another div
18:02.54_psychic_<div id="title2">title2</div> or something
18:03.31_psychic_div#title2
18:03.31_psychic_{
18:03.31_psychic_height: 50px;
18:03.32_psychic_background: #eee;
18:03.32_psychic_}
18:04.59Utah_Daveok, cool. I was hoping that's all it was.
18:21.43Utah_Davewps: it would be cool to have those css examples on uphpu.org
18:29.56_psychic_Utah_Dave: http://blog.html.it/layoutgala/ is sometimes a good resource for a starting point.
18:30.22_psychic_Their CSS is kinda hard to read (whitespace wise), but otherwise I like it.
18:35.19mindjujumorning all
18:38.05burninafternoon ;)
18:41.52bigdog_utnice
18:42.40burninmindjuju: did you make some good progress?
18:43.41mindjujuwith Pink Floyd Pulse concert on, you can code the Mona Lisa
18:44.14_psychic_Its just that she comes out looking more like Jerry Garcia.
18:45.31mindjujulol - that was pretty good
18:52.19mindjujuburnin, just don't mix ajax with clorox, it does bad things
18:52.35mindjujuk, i admit it, bad joke
18:52.52burninas long as I wear a respirator I'll be okay.
18:55.51burninhow does one use the js settimeout function? window.setTimeOut(func, delay); ?
18:56.38bigdog_ut~google js settimeout function
18:56.45_psychic_that's it, bascially
18:57.03_psychic_I think the delay is in ms
18:59.30burninoops, yeah ms
18:59.36bigdog_utburnin, http://www.javascriptkit.com/javatutors/time3.shtml
19:00.00burninevery 300ms my page grows larger!!!
19:02.50_psychic_its alive!
19:05.25bigdog_utthe drip loves enzyte
19:06.11mindjujurotfl
19:06.13bigdog_uthe is not only the president....is is a client too
19:08.02bigdog_uttime for lunch
19:24.34mindjujuwps, or any other CSS guru -- if you set the width of a div to 100%, does that mean the div's width is variable and will fit the contents of what is inside (ie, a picutre inside the div measure 200px so the div's width becomes 200px) or does it mean it inherits from the parent div?
19:28.34Utah_Dave_psychic_: the CSS tip you gave me earlier worked exactly like you said it would.  Thanks!
19:28.44_psychic_sweet
19:29.14_psychic_mindjuju: normally, its 100% of what its inside
19:29.37_psychic_mindjuju: but some elements can be specified as absolutely positioned (or absolute relative to another)
19:29.44mindjujuk, that's what i though, but started to get some weirdness so thought i'd double check
19:51.38atoponcebeandog: ping
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20:19.29atoponceis there a bug with the synax highlighting in bluefish?  very annoying.  i'll be typing right along, and then for some unexplained reason, lose the highlighting
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21:10.42beandogwhich one of you is spr?
21:16.00timinatorI'm the terminator, but that was already taken
21:16.05timinator:)
21:16.25herlohttp://groups.myspace.com/utos
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21:27.50brastowhere should i go in the php.net manual to find out more about using URL strings to echo page content?  To clarify, i want to:
21:29.15brastogo to a url like http://somefoobarwebsite.com/index.php?article=ID
21:29.59brastoand I want the page to echo the article content with ID==ID into a <div>
21:30.27brasto~timinator?
21:30.29jbot[timinator] the person formally known as timothy_, or owns his own business
21:30.58timinatorin your page code, put <?= $_GET["acrticle"] ?>
21:31.25timinatorthat'll echo the article var.... but you should sanitize it first
21:31.42brastoso, the page i want to look at is on the $_GET variable?
21:32.08timinatorif I'm following you correctly...
21:32.25timinatorin your example, that'll echo "ID"
21:32.35brastoyes
21:32.42beandog$article = intval($_GET['id']);
21:32.44timinatorso if you want to echo a <div> and all that entails
21:32.47brastosanitize? clean php code?
21:32.51timinatorput in a switch statement
21:32.53beandogbrasto: user validation
21:33.00brastook
21:33.01timinator<?php
21:33.14timinatorswitch($_GET["article"]) {
21:33.38beandoger, user input validation, I mean.
21:33.46timinatorcase "ID": echo "<div>......</div>"; break;
21:33.51timinator}
21:35.17timinatorwell... if the article is a number (ex. article=25)... then it's good to do something like this:
21:35.25brasto~lart Utah_Dave
21:35.28timinatorereg_replace('[^[:digit:]]', '', $_GET["article"])
21:35.55beandogpreg_replace('/\D/', '', $_GET['article']);
21:35.58beandogpreg++ ;)
21:35.59timinatorso that the input cannot be anything but a digit
21:36.04timinatorthere ya go
21:36.09Utah_Davenasty brasto
21:36.15brastosorry Utah_Dave, I found out recently how to use jbot
21:36.32timinatorhahaha... that's my boy
21:36.56Utah_DaveIn CSS, is it possible to set a minimum height for a <div> but let it grow as content fills it up?
21:37.12Utah_Daveright now content is overflowing a div
21:37.30brastohave you tried overflow:auto?
21:38.09brastoor max-height:500000000px ?
21:39.31brastofor my left panel on my test site: http://bstout.securesites.net, I set no height parameter
21:40.06brastothen I used a left margin for the mainBlock and the left panel has infinite space
21:40.23Utah_Davemin-height by itself did it for me
21:41.13brastocool, so need for 500 Million pixel max-height!
21:41.16brastolol
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21:56.33timinatorthanks mac
21:56.49watermouseahem
21:56.51watermouse;)
21:56.53watermousejk
22:09.16*** mode/#UPHPU [+v watermouse] by macnewbold
22:09.23macnewboldokay, okay
22:09.26*** mode/#UPHPU [+v drip] by bigdog_ut
22:09.55brastowhat's all the mode stuff?
22:17.30bigdog_utdont logout
22:17.46bigdog_utcomes standard on most linux desktops
22:17.52timinatorI take the laptop home at night
22:17.57timinatorno biggie
22:18.22timinatorOH.... I'm running on a laptop
22:18.44bigdog_utthat is what a battery is for
22:19.16macnewboldbut if the net connection goes away, you'll drop anyway
22:19.27timinatoryep
22:19.28macnewboldwhat we need is to set up auto-voice
22:19.29bigdog_utwireless
22:19.39macnewboldbut we can't at the moment due to a permission issue
22:19.45timinatorbigdog_ut: don't be difficult
22:20.24timinator:)
22:20.38Utah_Davebigdog_ut: or a REALLY long run of cat5
22:20.48timinatorthere we go
22:20.54bigdog_utor cat6
22:21.03Utah_Daveheck, let's go fiber
22:21.06timinatorit'll hang out the side of my car as I drive home
22:21.37bigdog_utsee that is all you need
22:21.51bigdog_utmacnewbold, we just need freenode to bump us up on perms is all i think
22:21.56bigdog_ut#utah has the perms for it
22:26.16macnewboldyeah
22:29.46bigdog_utso not sure how i we need to contact freenode admins
22:29.59Utah_Davelater everyone
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22:30.20bigdog_utnight
22:31.01beandogbigdog_ut: what od you need?
22:31.14beandogIst here an easy way to get a key from an array for a certain value, other than flipping it
22:31.15bigdog_utperms for autovoice
22:31.19beandogbigdog_ut: who needs it
22:31.28bigdog_utall three of use need it
22:31.35bigdog_utmacnewbold, wps and myself
22:32.26macnewboldyep
22:32.34macnewboldbeandog: array_search()
22:32.40beandogbigdog_ut: one sec
22:33.40bigdog_utk
22:33.40beandogbigdog_ut: you can set it with chanserv perms
22:33.46beandog"he just needs to add them to the access list"
22:34.14bigdog_uthow is that done through chanserv?
22:34.16beandogmacnewbold: thanks
22:34.29bigdog_uti tried upping my access level but that did not work
22:34.51macnewboldto set it so certain people can have autovoice, we need to be able to change the access levels around a bit
22:35.09bigdog_utyeah we need a level higher than 30
22:35.10macnewboldotherwise autovoice is set too high
22:35.13bigdog_utwhich is what i am
22:35.21bigdog_utso i tried to up my level and no go
22:35.42bigdog_utso i tried to lower the autovoice level and i can do that cause im only 30
22:36.29macnewboldover 20 is autoop, over 8 lets people use /voice
22:36.35beandogbigdog_ut: pm
22:36.36macnewboldbut autovoice is disabled right now
22:37.35macnewboldand all we can do right now is change access lists (in fact, only bigdog_ut can)
22:37.49macnewboldtry /msg chanserv level #uphpu list
22:37.55macnewboldand /msg chanserv access #uphpu list
23:04.40tierralevel 5 eh? now I know how much you all care about me!
23:05.16*** mode/#UPHPU [-v tierra] by macnewbold
23:05.18macnewboldhehe
23:05.21bigdog_utlol
23:05.21macnewboldtake that, level 5!
23:05.23timinatorlol
23:05.30macnewboldbtw, level 5 is autovoice
23:05.31beandogsweet, youg ot it I guess
23:05.37macnewboldyep :)
23:05.50tierra<PROTECTED>
23:05.54bigdog_utyeah...we had difficulties with the password
23:05.56macnewboldand -1 is autokick :-D so watch it
23:06.14*** mode/#UPHPU [-v timinator] by bigdog_ut
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23:06.32beandogbigdog_ut++
23:06.41bigdog_utafter 2 years i still got it
23:07.04tierra-ChanServ(ChanServ@services.)- An access level of [8] is required for [VOICE] on #uphpu
23:07.11tierraliar
23:09.13bigdog_uttierra, can you autovoice?
23:09.19tierranope
23:09.24macnewboldtry /voice
23:09.28macnewboldor /voice tierra
23:09.30macnewboldanything?
23:09.37macnewboldif you leave and come back it should voice you thogh
23:09.56tierraI would only be able to do it through Chanserv, but I get the above message when I try
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23:10.09macnewboldnice
23:10.15macnewboldtry that, tierra?
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23:10.20beandogI think I *finally* finished this form class
23:10.26macnewboldnice nice
23:10.26tierrayou can't just /voice yourself even with chanserv levels setup
23:10.40macnewboldI mean try changing nicks and changing back
23:10.46macnewboldlike tim did
23:10.50macnewboldcause it worked for him
23:11.00macnewboldtierra's a girls name anyway
23:11.08macnewboldhehe
23:11.10timinatortierra: /nick diablo
23:11.16timinatorthen /nick tierra
23:11.22timinatorlol mac
23:11.28timinatoryou really got him
23:11.31macnewboldso are we going to moderate the channel now that people have voice? prolly not I guess, but thought I'd ask
23:11.40tierra;)
23:11.43tierrasee
23:11.45tierraSEE!!!
23:11.48macnewbolddud
23:11.50macnewbolddude too
23:12.00*** mode/#UPHPU [+v tierra] by macnewbold
23:12.01macnewboldah
23:12.04tierrayou could try giving me lvl 8 access
23:12.05macnewboldha
23:12.10timinatorhang on tierra, don't loose your skirt over it
23:12.14tierrathen I might be able to
23:12.20bigdog_utlol
23:12.31macnewboldright, but you'd be able to voice anyone from level 8
23:12.34macnewboldright?
23:12.44*** mode/#UPHPU [+o tierra] by macnewbold
23:12.45tierrano, just get myself voice
23:13.03tierra?
23:13.05tierraum, k
23:13.37bigdog_utwelcome to the club tierra
23:13.47macnewboldhm
23:13.53tierraI guess that works, it's not like I d/c often ;)
23:14.00*** mode/#UPHPU [-o tierra] by macnewbold
23:14.33timinatorgood thing... having ladies in management is not a good thing
23:14.41bigdog_utlol
23:14.42timinatorsorry cupcake
23:15.07synicbe careful.  tierra's a wiley one.  He'll toilet paper your house one of these days.
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23:15.28timinatorhummm.....
23:15.31timinatorsorry toots
23:16.17tierrasynic has seen the wrath of kahnn
23:16.54macnewboldbe back in a bit y'all
23:17.23burnin_workso I'm generating pages with my PHP code and the menu on the left of my page changes depending on the content to the right of the menu...since the menu content is determined after the main content which method makes more sense for building the menu...
23:17.57bigdog_utfunction buildMenuWhenever()
23:18.23burnin_work1) absolute positioning of the menu and main content, 2) use some javascript and innerHTML to change the menu content after the main, or 3) have everything already in the menu and turn it off and on with the display and height settings?
23:19.22burnin_workif any of that makes any sense. :)
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23:20.26fungussweet, thanks
23:20.30bigdog_utnp
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23:20.44timinatorI'd personally go innerHTML... but only because I've done more of that
23:20.57timinatordon't think either is a wrong way of doing things
23:21.56burnin_workthe idea of absolute positioning had me worried, not sure if it is well supported and the page could render real nasty if something didn't fit right.
23:22.30burnin_workI didn't really like the idea of having the menu fully populated either and hiding stuff, why send a bunch of junk if its not really needed.
23:22.55burnin_workSo I kinda like the innerHTML idea as well.
23:23.13atoponcehmmm...
23:23.26burnin_workBut I have little experience with all this css/javascript stuff so I wasn't sure which would be the best method, or if I'm going about this all wrong. :)
23:23.42atoponceleft bluefish. too wet behind the ears.  quanta is much much better
23:24.43burnin_workedit a project over an ssh connection to the server, line completion, nice editor with customizable highlighting, etc.
23:28.28burnin_workI guess another option would be to do some ajax and reload the menu area dynamically, but I'm not sure how PHP sessons work with an ajax request.
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