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| 01:25.39 | beandog | timinator: ping |
| 01:25.52 | timinator | whaddup? |
| 01:26.01 | beandog | home |
| 01:26.03 | beandog | :) |
| 01:26.08 | timinator | k |
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| 03:37.02 | timinator | I'm out guys... g'night |
| 13:25.25 | drip | gm |
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| 15:00.29 | mindjuju | gmorn ya'll |
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| 15:05.13 | mindjuju | wow, all the fun conversations i miss out on because i'm on digest |
| 15:05.38 | beandog | heh |
| 15:06.27 | mindjuju | timinator with a double barrel shotgun! "Taking crap from inept |
| 15:06.27 | mindjuju | employer after inept employer after inept employer..." |
| 15:06.42 | timinator | that's the way I roll |
| 15:07.04 | mindjuju | Actually though, Orson is right |
| 15:07.13 | mindjuju | that WOULD be interesting to hear |
| 15:07.35 | mindjuju | conversion from employee to business owner; especially from a php programmer point of view |
| 15:07.46 | mindjuju | you could tag team with macnewbold |
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| 15:08.44 | mindjuju | what do you think there timinator? |
| 15:08.55 | timinator | didn't see Orson's comments |
| 15:09.23 | mindjuju | i just repeated what he said, that would be an interesting meet |
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| 15:10.17 | beandog | We should have a "horror story" meeting sometime |
| 15:10.49 | timinator | I wouldn't be against presenting something... anything... but my hands are tied till spring |
| 15:11.20 | mindjuju | way cool, cause i think we have speakers til Feb |
| 15:12.06 | timinator | mindjuju: put that down |
| 15:12.07 | timinator | LOL |
| 15:12.14 | mindjuju | hehehe |
| 15:12.46 | mindjuju | just send a PM to wade -- could be really good |
| 15:12.54 | timinator | ya? |
| 15:13.01 | timinator | what would I talk about?? |
| 15:13.45 | mindjuju | going from code writer to owning your own business of writers |
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| 15:14.02 | herlo | hola Utah_Dave |
| 15:14.31 | herlo | I updated LardIgniter with some makefile stuff |
| 15:14.39 | Utah_Dave | cool. |
| 15:15.00 | Utah_Dave | did you see my last commit? :) |
| 15:16.48 | _psychic_ | what exactly is LardIgniter?! |
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| 15:21.44 | mindjuju | wow! http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061018/ap_on_fe_st/playground_tag_ban |
| 15:23.44 | _psychic_ | maybe they should just strap all the kids down to tables so they don't bump into each other while "learning" |
| 15:24.14 | timinator | don't suggest that |
| 15:24.16 | mindjuju | well, apparently some bumping is permitted --> http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20061017/lf_afp/afplifestyleusschool_061017162752 |
| 15:24.19 | timinator | sounds like they would go for it |
| 15:25.29 | _psychic_ | I detest stupid people. |
| 15:26.43 | mindjuju | The 'dancing' of our youngsters today is one step from events that should be occurring on wedding nights," he wrote in an e-mail to parents. |
| 15:26.59 | _psychic_ | in some cases, I'd probably agree |
| 15:27.02 | mindjuju | wow, nothing like that when I was in school |
| 15:29.22 | Utah_Dav1 | when I was in high school in California I was pretty shocked by some of the stuff going on in the middle of the dance floor |
| 15:29.43 | Utah_Dav1 | alcohol, sex acts, etc |
| 15:29.43 | mindjuju | how long ago and what kind of dancing utah_dav1? |
| 15:29.50 | mindjuju | really? |
| 15:30.23 | mindjuju | yeah, smells like team spirit came out when i was a senior, so grunge was the flavor of the day |
| 15:30.32 | mindjuju | oops, it's early teen |
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| 15:31.18 | Utah_Dav1 | back in 91, 92 |
| 15:32.38 | bigdog_ut | it was all like that |
| 15:34.01 | Utah_Dav1 | yep |
| 15:34.13 | _psychic_ | now we're all old farts talking about the whipper snappers in some coding IRC channel :) |
| 15:34.22 | Utah_Dav1 | :) he he |
| 15:34.45 | bigdog_ut | they are dumbasses now |
| 15:34.54 | bigdog_ut | sry for lang but got to speak truth |
| 15:36.24 | _psychic_ | and we are soooo wise |
| 15:37.44 | _psychic_ | Utah_Dav1: do you use codeigniter? |
| 15:38.02 | macnewbold | hehe fun stuff |
| 15:38.04 | _psychic_ | Utah_Dave: ^ |
| 15:38.18 | Utah_Dave | I do use codeigniter |
| 15:38.37 | macnewbold | timinator: was there an email you were going to send me? |
| 15:39.24 | _psychic_ | Utah_Dave: what are you favorite parts about it? |
| 15:39.29 | _psychic_ | macnewbold: you do too? |
| 15:39.46 | macnewbold | no, I don't use codeigniter |
| 15:39.56 | macnewbold | I was laughing about all the high school dance stuff |
| 15:40.02 | macnewbold | and the young whippersnappers |
| 15:40.04 | Utah_Dave | I really like how it doesn't force the look of the site. |
| 15:40.10 | _psychic_ | :) |
| 15:40.15 | Utah_Dave | It helps keep your code organized and clean |
| 15:40.27 | Utah_Dave | it has a lot of really great helpers |
| 15:40.35 | _psychic_ | it's MVC, right? |
| 15:40.39 | Utah_Dave | yeah, but it doesn't force MVC on you |
| 15:40.46 | Utah_Dave | you can cheat a little if you want |
| 15:40.57 | _psychic_ | :/ |
| 15:41.05 | Utah_Dave | I'm rewriting an app at work in codeigniter and it is so much easier |
| 15:41.47 | _psychic_ | where can I see what the helpers are? |
| 15:41.51 | Utah_Dave | I wish codeigniter existed when I first wrote it |
| 15:42.03 | Utah_Dave | http://www.codeigniter.com/user_guide/ |
| 15:42.18 | Utah_Dave | click on the table of contents link at the top right |
| 15:42.30 | _psychic_ | gotcha |
| 15:42.36 | Utah_Dave | _psychic_: aren't you the Cake master? |
| 15:42.54 | _psychic_ | I'm on the team, if that's what you mean. :) |
| 15:43.11 | _psychic_ | Just checking out what other people are using and liking. |
| 15:43.24 | _psychic_ | I wanted to get the downlow from someone who likes it and uses it. |
| 15:45.06 | Utah_Dave | I tried cake a while back. |
| 15:45.14 | Utah_Dave | but it was just too much to set up and figure out |
| 15:45.32 | _psychic_ | have you used any other frameworks? |
| 15:46.23 | Utah_Dave | I spent quite a bit of time looking at different frameworks about 6 months ago. cake, seagull, symfony, a few others that I can't remember |
| 15:48.19 | macnewbold | Utah_Dave: what are your thoughts on symfony? |
| 15:49.27 | Utah_Dave | It's been a while... I don't think I did much with it |
| 15:49.53 | Utah_Dave | looking at the site right now, it looks interesting |
| 15:50.37 | Utah_Dave | but I don't think I dug too deep into symfony, so I wouldn't consider my opinion to be very well-informed |
| 15:57.26 | Utah_Dave | macnewbold: do you use symfony? |
| 15:58.19 | macnewbold | no, I was wondering about it though |
| 15:58.33 | macnewbold | one of our guys had been doing the review of all of them again, |
| 15:58.36 | macnewbold | and it was on his short list |
| 15:59.16 | Utah_Dave | have you had him check out codeigniter? |
| 16:00.06 | macnewbold | yeah, I think he looked at it |
| 16:00.11 | macnewbold | but I'm not sure |
| 16:00.22 | macnewbold | now that you mention it, I don't recall him specifically mentioning it |
| 16:00.32 | Utah_Dave | I know I'm starting to sound like an annoying codeigniter fanboy, but I'd really recommend a good look into it. |
| 16:02.47 | _psychic_ | we all have our biases :) |
| 16:03.30 | Utah_Dave | true |
| 16:04.10 | _psychic_ | I do like to hear what people like and don't like though - it helps make everything a little better. |
| 16:15.30 | beandog | I thought I had the market cornered on annoying fanboyism |
| 16:16.24 | Utah_Dave | what are you a fanboy about, beandog? |
| 16:16.39 | beandog | gentoo, php, postgres, svn |
| 16:17.01 | beandog | :) |
| 16:17.34 | bigdog_ut | macnewbold, knows what i love and hate |
| 16:18.40 | beandog | actually Im not a fanboy. |
| 16:18.53 | beandog | I just silently snipe off people from the shadows who dare to promote anything else. |
| 16:20.29 | Utah_Dave | so how many days of your life have you wasted installing gentoo? |
| 16:20.38 | bigdog_ut | 1 |
| 16:21.05 | bigdog_ut | how many days have i never dealt with rpm depends...priceless!!!! |
| 16:21.28 | bigdog_ut | how many days have can i install anything i like....everyday!!! |
| 16:22.02 | Utah_Dave | :) |
| 16:22.11 | Utah_Dave | I knew that would get a reaction |
| 16:22.42 | _psychic_ | how many days did it take to install? ;) |
| 16:23.38 | bigdog_ut | ill take a couple days if it means that i dont have dependencies and i can install pretty much anything i want |
| 16:24.32 | Utah_Dave | I'm not sure I understand exactly what you mean, bigdog_ut |
| 16:24.42 | _psychic_ | I still need to try out gentoo |
| 16:24.44 | beandog | Utah_Dave: couple of months |
| 16:24.53 | Utah_Dave | don't all apps have dependencies? |
| 16:24.57 | bigdog_ut | ok for example...i use pgsql 8.1 |
| 16:25.00 | _psychic_ | but a 20 min ubuntu install and apt get me by pretty well |
| 16:25.12 | beandog | bigdog_ut: amen, brotah |
| 16:25.15 | bigdog_ut | rpm based redhat and centos do not offer that one without work arounds |
| 16:25.36 | beandog | Gentoos the only linux distro I could stand for more than a week. |
| 16:25.47 | beandog | So I stuck with it (after trying just about everything else under the sun) |
| 16:25.52 | bigdog_ut | my php i use both 4 and 5 |
| 16:26.00 | bigdog_ut | and they are both compiled different |
| 16:28.07 | beandog | _psychic_: setting up gentoo takes a long time yes, maintaining it takes much shorter |
| 16:28.17 | bigdog_ut | something like that i cannot do with other distros without really taking the time |
| 16:28.19 | beandog | My install at home is like 2 years old. |
| 16:28.23 | bigdog_ut | gentoo makes it easy to do |
| 16:28.33 | bigdog_ut | same with my java environment too |
| 16:28.35 | _psychic_ | beandog: I'm all for trying it out |
| 16:28.39 | beandog | I have two gentoo installs at work over a year old |
| 16:28.54 | beandog | my workstation one is almost 2 years old |
| 16:28.58 | Utah_Dave | I can see your point. with ubuntu and Fedora it's definitely a lot easier to use whatever software versions are put there by the maintainers |
| 16:29.00 | beandog | never had to reinstall. :) |
| 16:29.01 | bigdog_ut | yeah mine is from 2004 |
| 16:29.33 | bigdog_ut | and i use different glibs too and gcc for some stuff so i need the flexibility of it |
| 16:29.40 | beandog | slotted gcc is cool. |
| 16:29.42 | beandog | You can slowly upgrade. |
| 16:29.43 | beandog | :) |
| 16:30.06 | Utah_Dave | that two day install just kills me though. |
| 16:30.14 | beandog | meh |
| 16:30.21 | beandog | If you know what youre doing you can get it done pretty fast. |
| 16:30.34 | bigdog_ut | yeah servers are really fast to do too |
| 16:30.51 | beandog | I can get a box up and booted into gentoo in less than an hour. |
| 16:31.02 | bigdog_ut | and if you use distcc and cachecc then you are even faster |
| 16:31.07 | beandog | granted, its a bare minimal setup, but still, its running. |
| 16:31.12 | beandog | yahps. |
| 16:31.16 | beandog | both life savers. |
| 16:31.27 | beandog | share the compliation load |
| 16:33.00 | beandog | Its really not hard at all once you get up and running. |
| 16:34.20 | macnewbold | *cough* freebsd *cough* |
| 16:35.46 | beandog | http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/gentoo-alt/bsd/ |
| 16:35.53 | beandog | :) |
| 16:36.49 | beandog | now Im really fanboying, oy. |
| 17:01.14 | Utah_Dave | I like all the concepts behind gentoo. I just wish you could install gentoo like most other distros, and then make all your configuration changes and then let it spend 18 hours compiling by itself in a corner |
| 17:03.11 | beandog | what do you mean? |
| 17:03.14 | beandog | Thats kind of what I do now. |
| 17:04.32 | _psychic_ | That's what I thought it did.... |
| 17:04.32 | Utah_Dave | it's been at least a year since I've tried installing gentoo, but I remember there being a whole series of steps that had to be babysat along the way. It took forever just to get a working system up |
| 17:04.57 | Utah_Dave | maybe I need to go read the Gentoo manual again. |
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| 17:05.27 | beandog | you need Steve's Patented Four Step Gentoo Install. :) |
| 17:05.44 | Utah_Dave | where can I find docs on that? |
| 17:05.48 | beandog | unpack stage3, install a kernel, emerge grub, reboot and emerge -u world |
| 17:05.50 | beandog | and yer done. |
| 17:06.35 | beandog | the handbook's the best place |
| 17:06.46 | beandog | If you just look at it objectively, what its accomplishing, it makes a whole lot more sense. |
| 17:07.32 | beandog | I mean all you do is partition the hdd, unpack a stage3 tarball, unpack a portage snapshot, configure your make.conf, chroot in there, emerge a kernel, install bootloader, and reboot. |
| 17:10.14 | beandog | gah, iis just crashed .. again. |
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| 17:23.12 | Utah_Dave | herlo: do I just need to change the path to my dev location and run make? |
| 17:57.27 | herlo | Utah_Dave: you need to change the WWWDEV and the DEV locations |
| 17:57.42 | herlo | test it out and let me know, I've not tested it on windows yet |
| 17:58.29 | Utah_Dave | herlo: it's failing on windows. I'm not exactly sure why yet |
| 17:58.45 | herlo | Utah_Dave: k, I am going to be testing it tonight... |
| 17:59.31 | herlo | Utah_Dave: I'll probably end up making win targets too |
| 17:59.47 | herlo | oh, and I added the ci directory, which contains the latest version of CodeIgniter |
| 18:00.02 | herlo | so your branch doesn't need to have it, eventually |
| 18:02.36 | mindjuju | what is the standard width of an HTML email. 600 is what my research has indicated to be, but wanted to check in here to see what up |
| 18:03.01 | Utah_Dave | cool, I like the makefile. I think it will work nicely |
| 18:07.56 | macnewbold | mindjuju: yeah, 600-800 wide sounds good to me |
| 18:08.12 | mindjuju | coolio, thx |
| 18:08.14 | macnewbold | if you don't require a fixed width, of course, don't force one, but |
| 18:08.20 | herlo | Utah_Dave: thanx |
| 18:08.23 | macnewbold | up to 600 I think is fine |
| 19:52.33 | Utah_Dave | wps: a while back you posted some links here to some CSS layout models. Do you still have those handy? |
| 19:52.54 | wps | let me see if it's still on my server |
| 19:53.05 | wps | it was in my "temp" dir that I purge periodically |
| 19:53.31 | wps | you are in luck |
| 19:54.11 | wps | http://www.anavidesign.com/temp/layout/?stylesheet=1 |
| 19:54.12 | wps | http://www.anavidesign.com/temp/layout/?stylesheet=2 |
| 19:54.14 | wps | http://www.anavidesign.com/temp/layout/?stylesheet=3 |
| 19:54.16 | wps | http://www.anavidesign.com/temp/layout/?stylesheet=4 |
| 19:54.17 | wps | http://www.anavidesign.com/temp/layout/?stylesheet=5 |
| 19:54.22 | Utah_Dave | sweet! |
| 19:54.28 | Utah_Dave | thanks a ton |
| 19:54.34 | wps | you're welcome |
| 20:05.44 | bigdog_ut | ty wps you slacker |
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| 21:34.17 | mindjuju | bigdog_ut, you've prolly already seen these, but just in case not, some 'sploits on Oracle 8i, 9i, 10g and a crap load of other oracle apps http://www.us-cert.gov/cas/techalerts/TA06-291A.html |
| 21:34.38 | bigdog_ut | i dont use oracle anymore |
| 21:34.58 | mindjuju | ah |
| 21:44.09 | bigdog_ut | stricly pgsql + apache + php + tomcat + j2ee |
| 21:44.38 | bigdog_ut | + postgis + perl + bash + linux + bigdog = freedom |
| 21:45.19 | macnewbold | - j2ee - tomcat + freebsd + mysql = perfection |
| 21:45.31 | timinator | and the backup choir sings "FREEEEEDOOOOOM" |
| 21:46.31 | macnewbold | hallelujah |
| 21:46.46 | bigdog_ut | freebsd sucks |
| 21:46.54 | bigdog_ut | just a mental note for all |
| 21:47.10 | bigdog_ut | and mysql is not a real db |
| 21:51.21 | mindjuju | wow! i was just doing some stuff in google analytics and they have this new cool pop up window that isn't a real pop up window. won't be affected by pop up blocker, it's cool! |
| 22:05.47 | bigdog_ut | mindjuju, why you getting oracle security stuff if you dont use oracle? |
| 22:06.07 | mindjuju | I'm on CERT security alerts |
| 22:07.21 | mindjuju | i just skim when they come through, but noticed it was oracle stuff, so that's why i read a little more closely |
| 22:08.05 | bigdog_ut | oh cool |
| 22:08.52 | mindjuju | so what you up to, besides trying to start a fight with macnewbold about freebsd? |
| 22:14.52 | macnewbold | freebsd rocks |
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| 23:08.32 | bigdog_ut | mindjuju, im working on a reverse geo code application now |
| 23:10.01 | beandog | that's nothing. |
| 23:10.06 | beandog | I'm writing a new web browser in vb6. |
| 23:10.27 | beandog | :) |
| 23:11.02 | beandog | really? |
| 23:11.09 | timinator | although a web browser is a very cool and prestigious project, I have to ask, why would the world need another web browser? |
| 23:11.22 | xilch | yeah, just for messing around when I was learning it |
| 23:11.33 | beandog | actually Im writing a class to easily create HTML forms. |
| 23:11.46 | xilch | it was super simple - didn't make any attempt to render images and tables |
| 23:11.47 | timinator | cool |
| 23:11.49 | timinator | very cool |
| 23:11.50 | beandog | because all the other ones suck. |
| 23:12.06 | beandog | xilch: did you just plugin to the backend www rendering stuff or what? |
| 23:12.26 | xilch | oh - I just ignored rendering for the most part |
| 23:12.37 | xilch | ignored every tag that I hadn't implemented yet |
| 23:12.50 | xilch | so it was like bolds, links and break tags |
| 23:13.01 | beandog | huh |
| 23:13.02 | beandog | thats cool |
| 23:13.10 | xilch | but I really just wanted to experiment with parsing headers and cookies and stuff |
| 23:13.10 | synic | did you implement <blink> ? |
| 23:13.14 | beandog | heh |
| 23:13.15 | xilch | lol |
| 23:13.18 | xilch | I should have |
| 23:13.44 | macnewbold | was it graphical or text-based? |
| 23:14.02 | xilch | text based |
| 23:14.07 | xilch | but not console based |
| 23:14.12 | macnewbold | what then? |
| 23:14.14 | xilch | I used a regular form |
| 23:14.15 | macnewbold | gtk or something? |
| 23:14.22 | beandog | vb6 |
| 23:14.26 | macnewbold | oh, wait, vb6, yeah |
| 23:14.27 | macnewbold | nevermind |
| 23:16.05 | beandog | has anyone ever tried that webserver written in php? |
| 23:16.30 | beandog | that would be an ......... interesting project. |
| 23:17.00 | timinator | I don't know if I could use a browser that didn't recognize <blink> |
| 23:17.37 | timinator | it just wouldn't feel right |
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| 23:19.01 | timinator | ~hi brasto |
| 23:19.06 | jbot | Many greetings, brasto, most strange traveller, to this IRCdom of plenty. |
| 23:19.18 | timinator | ~lart brasto |
| 23:19.32 | timinator | he he |
| 23:19.39 | beandog | ircdom of plenty? |
| 23:19.45 | beandog | O_o |
| 23:19.59 | xilch | that's #cornucopia |
| 23:20.08 | brasto | ~hey timinator if i want to include javascript without making it available in htdocs, what do I need to add to httpd.conf? |
| 23:20.41 | brasto | ~rlart timinator |
| 23:21.34 | timinator | I've only dabbled in JS, I'm probably not the best one to ask |
| 23:21.41 | brasto | For example, I want this to work: <script type="text/javascript" src="/js/expand.js"></script> |
| 23:22.35 | brasto | but I want to put it in /user/local/apache/includes/js/expand.js instead of /user/local/apache/htdocs/js/expand.js |
| 23:23.01 | timinator | oh |
| 23:23.30 | timinator | the problem is that the page is rendering on the client side at that point..... |
| 23:23.38 | timinator | so it can only be within the doc root |
| 23:23.44 | timinator | web root rather |
| 23:23.52 | xilch | why don't you want the js dir in htdocs? |
| 23:24.04 | brasto | ah, OK, that makes sense |
| 23:24.34 | timinator | ya.... that's why it's a bad thing to make db calls and stuff from within JS |
| 23:24.43 | timinator | better to do that within PHP |
| 23:24.44 | brasto | no biggie, i was just going to see if i could hide it |
| 23:24.53 | brasto | just to see if it could be done |
| 23:24.57 | timinator | (or Java or whatever) |
| 23:25.10 | timinator | not that I'm aware of |
| 23:25.29 | xilch | I didn't know you could make a db call with javascript |
| 23:25.53 | timinator | I've never tried, but I limit what I do within JS |
| 23:25.54 | xilch | brasto: do you not want the user on the machine to have access, or the web user? |
| 23:25.55 | brasto | xilch, I didn't think you could either |
| 23:26.18 | timinator | rather, I limit what I use JS for, and do most things in PHP |
| 23:26.29 | xilch | because the web user always gets to see the javascript |
| 23:26.31 | brasto | just a scenario, if i wanted to hide proprietary js that i've written |
| 23:26.47 | xilch | ah - so definitely from the web user |
| 23:26.59 | xilch | you can obfuscate it |
| 23:27.03 | beandog | oh *man* |
| 23:27.08 | beandog | today's dailywtf++ |
| 23:27.08 | xilch | synic: didn't you do this once? |
| 23:27.19 | beandog | that exact thing happened here. |
| 23:27.32 | beandog | http://thedailywtf.com/ |
| 23:27.32 | brasto | yes. i don't actally have anything i need to hide, but if i ever did, it might be good to know. |
| 23:27.42 | beandog | masses |
| 23:27.50 | synic | xilch: just with php. |
| 23:28.30 | xilch | brasto: googling javascript obfuscation will get you what you need |
| 23:28.58 | xilch | it will keep all but the most determined from understanding your js files |
| 23:29.33 | xilch | usually it's easier to write something yourself in js than to wade through cleaning obfuscated code |
| 23:29.33 | brasto | how do you obfuscate js? |
| 23:29.47 | xilch | the google will tell all secrets |
| 23:29.51 | brasto | lol |
| 23:30.56 | xilch | I bet sourceforge would have an os tool available too |
| 23:31.23 | brasto | thanks, gotta go - 2 days of verio training left |
| 23:31.34 | brasto | ~lart timinator |
| 23:31.35 | xilch | but the thing is, it doesn't make your code impossible to steal, it just makes it difficult to |
| 23:31.52 | brasto | makes sense |
| 23:31.57 | *** part/#uphpu brasto (n=brasto@fw.oremut02.us.wh.verio.net) |
| 23:33.43 | *** join/#uphpu bigdog_ut (n=bigdog@208.177.146.102.ptr.us.xo.net) |
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| 23:38.59 | timinator | I'm out guys |
| 23:39.01 | timinator | later |
| 23:39.10 | bigdog_ut | lol |
| 23:39.25 | bigdog_ut | where is mindjuju, where is mindjuju |
| 23:40.15 | tierra | what did I do? |
| 23:40.29 | bigdog_ut | i meant to kick timinator |
| 23:48.35 | mindjuju | i'm here, just went to get something to snack on |
| 23:48.39 | mindjuju | what up bigdog_ut |
| 23:48.56 | bigdog_ut | nada...just messing around |
| 23:49.20 | bigdog_ut | im actaully installing a ubuntu system now |
| 23:49.52 | mindjuju | for a server or a user? |
| 23:50.10 | bigdog_ut | user |
| 23:50.49 | tierra | Oh man, I can't believe you're going to install Ubuntu! |
| 23:50.54 | tierra | </sarcasm> |
| 23:50.57 | bigdog_ut | yeah |
| 23:51.34 | bigdog_ut | its alright i dont mind it...i used debian for servers at a couple jobs back |
| 23:52.03 | bigdog_ut | and i have freebsd servers too |
| 23:52.14 | bigdog_ut | i just love my gentoo |
| 23:52.48 | bigdog_ut | we shoudl all play some bzflag |
| 23:52.55 | bigdog_ut | then i can kick mindjuju's butt |
| 23:53.35 | bigdog_ut | bring it on!!!! |
| 23:54.00 | beandog | ?? |
| 23:54.05 | bigdog_ut | lol |
| 23:54.06 | beandog | bzflag++ |
| 23:54.10 | mindjuju | made by tim riker? |
| 23:54.15 | mindjuju | like jbot riker? |
| 23:54.29 | bigdog_ut | yeah i think he manages it |
| 23:54.36 | bigdog_ut | not sure if he is the main builder of it |
| 23:55.22 | bigdog_ut | fun game to play |
| 23:58.49 | bigdog_ut | sure man |