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| 14:48.28 | timinator | mornin' all |
| 14:50.32 | _psychic_ | mornin |
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| 15:13.18 | Utah_Dave | morning |
| 15:14.07 | timinator | has everybody seen these? |
| 15:14.08 | timinator | http://www.apple.com/getamac/ads/ |
| 15:14.12 | timinator | I love 'em |
| 15:14.22 | timinator | morning Utah_Dave |
| 15:14.43 | timinator | and _psychic_ |
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| 15:56.07 | mindjuj1 | timinator, the commercial "better results" off that link is the best |
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| 16:13.26 | macnewbold | ~morning jbot |
| 16:13.29 | jbot | ACTION bends space and time, trapping jbot in a universe of eternal monday mornings |
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| 16:18.36 | alphahawk | question for you linux people here. I am running a few servers that run dhcp on them. Just today I had 2 of them stop handing out ip address and whenever I restart the dhcpd it gives me the error message Can't create new lease file: No space left on device. any ideas? I have enough room on the /var partition for it. |
| 16:19.56 | macnewbold | it's one of the other file systems probably |
| 16:20.05 | macnewbold | that's definitely an "out of disk space" message |
| 16:20.13 | _psychic1_ | $df -h |
| 16:20.29 | alphahawk | df -h |
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| 16:20.49 | timinator_ | thanks mac |
| 16:20.56 | alphahawk | bah |
| 16:21.07 | alphahawk | dev/hda3 4.0G 2.4G 1.4G 64% /var |
| 16:21.16 | timinator_ | echo echo echo |
| 16:21.18 | macnewbold | there's another one that's having grief |
| 16:21.32 | alphahawk | shmfs 248M 0 248M 0% /dev/shm |
| 16:21.40 | alphahawk | thats the only one showing full atm |
| 16:21.45 | macnewbold | that might be it? |
| 16:21.52 | tierra | that one is supposed to read full |
| 16:21.56 | macnewbold | hm |
| 16:22.09 | alphahawk | ya thats why I am confused |
| 16:22.15 | macnewbold | is this on the machine that is supposed to hand out addresses, or the machine htat is suppsoed to get it? |
| 16:22.29 | alphahawk | machine that is suppose to hand out address's |
| 16:22.48 | tierra | maybe it thinks there's no space left on device because it doesn't have write permissions to the file/directory |
| 16:22.56 | alphahawk | if I delete the lease files and then retouch the main file it will work for about 2 min and then crash again |
| 16:23.14 | macnewbold | any other errors besides that one? |
| 16:23.23 | alphahawk | not that I have been able to find so far |
| 16:23.33 | macnewbold | I thought about permissions, but you'd think it would give permission denied instead of no space left on device... |
| 16:24.04 | tierra | how about your inode tables? do a 'df -i' |
| 16:24.26 | alphahawk | dev/hda3 522240 522240 0 100% /var |
| 16:24.31 | alphahawk | okay /var is full |
| 16:24.32 | tierra | there you go |
| 16:24.36 | alphahawk | how do I clear them? |
| 16:24.56 | tierra | you've got a lot of small files, I'd clear some out somewhere |
| 16:25.09 | tierra | I'm guessing you use that partition for a lot of mail maybe? |
| 16:25.28 | alphahawk | mail is turned of but its my where alot of my logs are stored |
| 16:25.48 | tierra | eventually you'll want to reformat giving it more inodes |
| 16:26.13 | tierra | do your logs rotate daily then or something? |
| 16:26.52 | alphahawk | there suppose to be. But I have been having issues with hackers so I wonder if they have filled |
| 16:27.22 | tierra | well, rotating your logs daily can generate a _lot_ of files, thus filling up your inodes quick |
| 16:27.38 | alphahawk | okay thanks tierra |
| 16:27.53 | macnewbold | good call |
| 16:28.09 | tierra | if you have some you can clear out, that'd be best, then you should look at setting a longer period between rotations |
| 16:29.16 | alphahawk | log rotation is set where again? |
| 16:29.34 | tierra | or, again, you could just reformat with more inodes (see the -i option of mke2fs) |
| 16:30.32 | tierra | umm, depends on your logger, is syslog (most likely) /etc/syslog.conf I believe |
| 16:31.10 | tierra | actually |
| 16:31.13 | alphahawk | thanks |
| 16:31.26 | tierra | you'll want to look in /etc/logrotate.d |
| 16:32.14 | tierra | well, I don't know where all that stuff is, I've always just used defaults, but yeah, somewhere in relation to logrotate |
| 16:32.40 | tierra | ah, found my setting in /etc/logrotate.conf |
| 16:34.37 | alphahawk | hmmm. okay time to see what I can do. Would love to reformat sys with more inodes but system is 600 miles from where I am |
| 16:35.46 | tierra | heh |
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| 17:15.03 | drip | nice |
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| 17:19.18 | timinator | very nice mindjuju |
| 17:24.30 | tierra | alphahawk: P.S. If you set logs to rotate daily because of sshd logs filling up with brute force attempts, and you don't have a choice but to run sshd on the default port, I'd recommend looking into Denyhosts. |
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| 17:26.27 | alphahawk | thanks tierra |
| 17:26.53 | alphahawk | Tierra: do you know of anyway to just flush the inodes? or find out what is filling it up? |
| 17:29.48 | tierra | inodes are what the filesystem uses to save off information about files, they particularly fill up when you have a lot of files on the system. Even with my weekly log rotation and using maildir format mail delivery (which uses one file for each email), I'm still only using about 80,000 inodes out of the 600,000 I have for my whole filesystem total |
| 17:30.05 | alphahawk | hmmm |
| 17:30.13 | tierra | somewhere on your system you have a _TON_ of files |
| 17:30.38 | tierra | I'd find out where, cuz I still don't think even daily log rotation can do that |
| 17:30.47 | alphahawk | hmmmm ok |
| 17:31.22 | alphahawk | is there a way to do a ls command to print all the files in say like /var? |
| 17:31.42 | alphahawk | nm found it |
| 17:32.16 | tierra | 'find . -type f | wc -l' will give you a file count |
| 17:33.25 | tierra | Gentoo systems have the tendancy to use a lot more inodes than normal (I'm using closer to 400,000 inodes on one of my Gentoo desktops) just because of portage |
| 17:35.30 | alphahawk | the find command work the same in linux? using suse 8.0 atm |
| 17:36.11 | tierra | should |
| 17:37.21 | tierra | not that I was talking about anything other than linux, hehe |
| 17:38.14 | alphahawk | figured linux but wanted to make sure wasn't some specific command for like freebsd or something |
| 17:38.52 | alphahawk | so 521,023 files is probably bad right? |
| 17:39.04 | timinator | lol |
| 17:39.11 | tierra | heh, um, yeah |
| 17:39.53 | tierra | I have about 18,000 in /var |
| 17:42.08 | alphahawk | found it. I HATE POSTFIX |
| 17:42.38 | alphahawk | drwx-wx--T 2 postfix maildrop 10403840 Oct 16 11:43 maildrop |
| 17:43.57 | alphahawk | dev/hda3 510K 1.7K 509K 1% /var |
| 17:44.02 | alphahawk | thanks for help tierra |
| 17:44.21 | tierra | wow, that's quite the difference ;) |
| 17:44.24 | tierra | np |
| 17:45.20 | alphahawk | ya |
| 17:45.58 | alphahawk | thanks again |
| 18:18.08 | bigdog_ut | didnt we have some conversation on wikis a while ago? |
| 18:18.23 | bigdog_ut | does anyone recommend a wiki that is easy to use and maintain for an intranet |
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| 18:19.49 | timinator | the consensus was to use mediawiki |
| 18:20.27 | timinator | ~hi brasto |
| 18:20.36 | jbot | Many greetings, brasto, most strange traveller, to this IRCdom of plenty. |
| 18:25.14 | brasto | greetings back to timinator and jbot |
| 18:25.50 | brasto | I am on a lunch but next week, I'll probably be more frequent here again since I'll be done with training and working different hours |
| 18:29.55 | timinator | yuck... new job training |
| 18:33.26 | brasto | ~brasto says hi to timinator and jbot |
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| 18:52.54 | drip | bigdog_ut: I think there's a beanbuilderwiki you might be interested in. |
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| 19:27.23 | bigdog_ut | pj o, isre |
| 19:28.02 | bigdog_ut | lol |
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| 19:28.23 | timinator | bigdog_utees |
| 19:32.42 | bigdog_ut | yep |
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| 21:20.35 | mindjuju | ~rlart |
| 21:20.44 | _psychic_ | ~lart mindjuju |
| 21:20.52 | _psychic_ | sneak attack! |
| 21:21.08 | mindjuju | preemptive even! |
| 21:21.15 | timinator | lol |
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| 21:27.10 | timinator | where do you guys come up with this stuff?!?!? |
| 21:28.20 | mindjuju | what's worse, being singed by the breath of a thousand burritos or being captured into a black hole? |
| 21:28.47 | timinator | it's like a dang teleprompter for the X-men |
| 21:29.55 | mindjuju | well, wait a minute, if they were the "best value" burritos from walmart -- i think those have a +!0 damage on account of the beans they use |
| 21:30.19 | mindjuju | timinator --> http://www.ruf.rice.edu/~pound/kungfu.html |
| 21:31.17 | _psychic_ | mindjuju: yeah but the time dilation from the black hole would stretch you into a string an atom wide for eternity |
| 21:32.00 | mindjuju | yeah, but i wouldn't mind being thin again. being married can sure add a few pounds |
| 21:32.34 | timinator | I second that |
| 21:32.50 | _psychic_ | so can +10 damage beans. |
| 21:33.19 | _psychic_ | I think that's CHA damage... |
| 21:45.07 | mindjuju | jbot: _psyAttack is <action> creates a (blackhole|Neutrino Genoreduction field|Chemical Crystalization Chamber) leaving $1 trapped! |
| 21:45.11 | jbot | mindjuju: okay |
| 21:45.22 | mindjuju | ~_psyattack synic |
| 21:45.45 | mindjuju | bummer, must not like the _ |
| 21:46.04 | mindjuju | ~_psyAttack |
| 21:46.06 | jbot | ACTION creates a blackhole leaving $1 trapped! |
| 21:46.17 | mindjuju | ~_psyAttack synic |
| 21:46.38 | mindjuju | weird |
| 21:46.46 | mindjuju | jbot: synicAttack is <action> belches at $1 with the fury of a(1000 burritos|Maverick Quick-Micro Buritto|Walmart Better Value Buritto) leaving $1 dazed! |
| 21:46.48 | jbot | okay, mindjuju |
| 21:46.59 | mindjuju | ~synicAttack _psychic_ |
| 21:47.36 | _psychic_ | ... |
| 21:47.43 | mindjuju | yeah bummer |
| 21:47.49 | _psychic_ | (needless to say, I'm ready for it) |
| 21:48.08 | mindjuju | ~synicAttack herlo |
| 21:48.41 | mindjuju | bummer, i'll have to take these to botpark and fix them when i have time |
| 21:48.49 | mindjuju | ~synicAttack |
| 21:48.50 | jbot | ACTION belches at $1 with the fury of a1000 burritos leaving $1 dazed! |
| 21:49.01 | _psychic_ | odd |
| 21:49.19 | mindjuju | jbot, forget synicAttack |
| 21:49.19 | jbot | mindjuju: i forgot synicattack |
| 21:49.34 | mindjuju | jbot, forget _psyAttack |
| 21:49.34 | jbot | mindjuju: i forgot _psyattack |
| 21:49.47 | mindjuju | ugh, better get back to work |
| 21:54.36 | bigdog_ut | jbot, forget mindjuju |
| 21:54.53 | bigdog_ut | jbot, no mindjuju |
| 21:55.08 | bigdog_ut | ~mindjuju |
| 21:55.10 | jbot | rumour has it, mindjuju is sleeping with his left eye open, or insane, or prone to messing with other people's factoids, or a windows system administrator (*GASP*) |
| 21:55.10 | mindjuju | jbot, bigdog_ut is also a nerd |
| 21:55.11 | jbot | mindjuju: okay |
| 21:55.24 | mindjuju | ~bigdog_ut |
| 21:55.25 | jbot | extra, extra, read all about it, bigdog_ut is Mullet Man, a.k.a. El Perro Loco, or "the gimp", or known as the schwagmeister, or a big meany, or laden, or full of Schmack at times, or the nagios king, or a resident loser, or a mind reader, or a retard at times, or the resident guru of eclipse, or a nerd |
| 21:55.33 | bigdog_ut | i love mine |
| 21:56.11 | synic | ~synic |
| 21:56.16 | synic | *sob* |
| 21:57.08 | _psychic_ | ~_psychic_ |
| 21:58.15 | mindjuju | i think wps 's is the funniest |
| 21:58.18 | mindjuju | ~wps |
| 21:58.19 | jbot | methinks wps is Mr. Sexy Pants |
| 21:58.54 | mindjuju | seems like jbot has been programmed for factoids on his whole fam, though i don't remember what they are. |
| 22:05.15 | macnewbold | ~wade's wife |
| 22:05.18 | jbot | wade's wife is probably Mrs. Sexy Pants |
| 22:05.18 | macnewbold | ~wade's kid |
| 22:05.19 | jbot | i heard wade's kid is Junior Sexy Pants |
| 22:05.37 | mindjuju | yup! those are them |
| 22:07.31 | timinator | too funny |
| 22:09.59 | mindjuju | does wade have a dog? i know he now has a house |
| 22:10.11 | mindjuju | so it could be wade's house is where the sexy pants are |
| 22:33.42 | herlo | Do you like my "stretchy pants"? |
| 22:34.19 | mindjuju | Cancho, sometimes when your a man, you have to wear stretchy pants |
| 22:36.10 | _psychic_ | I still gotta see that movie :( |
| 22:36.58 | mindjuju | it was good. Jack Black makes the movie. Not quiet par with Napoleon, but a good view |
| 22:37.17 | mindjuju | i'd buy it when it hits the 2-for rack at hollywood |
| 22:42.04 | mindjuju | well, you'll be happy to know that we are considering buying an animal |
| 22:42.05 | mindjuju | dog or cat -- not decided |
| 22:42.28 | mindjuju | right now, we are talking to Corban (since he wants one) about what it means to have an animal and what we need to do to take good care of it |
| 22:42.58 | mindjuju | whoops, wrong im |
| 22:43.35 | herlo | mmm, stretchy pants |
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| 22:55.36 | brasto | can you set the apache SSLCACertificateFile or SSLCertificateFile directives in .htaccess, or must they be set in httpd.conf? |
| 22:56.33 | synic | I'm gonna take a stab and say they need to be in httpd.conf or one of it's includes |
| 22:56.53 | synic | probably needs to be in a <virtualhost> |
| 22:57.20 | brasto | and you can't have <virtualhost> in .htaccess? |
| 22:57.25 | synic | no |
| 22:58.44 | synic | I'm only %99 on that :) |
| 22:58.52 | synic | er... 99% sure |
| 23:01.15 | brasto | i have a shared host plan, so i don't have access to httpd.conf i have a server certificate from CAcert.org. is there a way to use ssl/https without having access to httpd.conf? |
| 23:01.24 | brasto | btw, thanks synic |
| 23:02.00 | synic | brasto: I really don't think so. I think you'll have to contact your provider |
| 23:03.55 | brasto | thank you synic, might there be a way to encrypt traffic via php openssl functions? I'm guessing no, but i'm crossing my fingers... |
| 23:04.47 | synic | well, not from apache to the browser |
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