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00:00.08jsmithmacnewbold: That's OK... I'm slowly figuring it out.
00:00.11macnewboldjsmith: xajax is really great if you're looking for an easy way to do it
00:00.46jsmithmacnewbold: So is just replacing the innerHTML with the result of your server-side code.
00:01.00macnewboldyeah, it can do that easily
00:01.12macnewboldit can also send back javascript to run on the client side,
00:01.19macnewboldor other stuff too
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00:01.29macnewboldassigning dom variables, etc
00:01.57jsmithYeah, I don't need anything that fancy.
00:02.05jsmithAt least for now I don't.
00:02.24jsmithThis is just a silly replacement for someone opening up a terminal window and typing "watch -n30 'some_dumb_program'"
00:02.33macnewboldyeah, basically xajax lets you define a php function, then call it from Javascript
00:03.50jsmithCool... I'll check it out as this thing progresses.
00:03.57jsmithFor now, I just need a quick 'n' dirty hack
00:04.02jsmithAnd this fits the bill.
00:04.29jsmithI played with AJAX a lot a year ago, but I've lost it all -- too many other things going on
00:04.56jsmithWhat a world!
00:06.12macnewboldsweet
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00:21.50jsmithMan, have I ever mentioned how inept I am when it comes to javascript?
00:31.21macnewboldthat's a sign of a good programmer - anyone who "gets" javascript easily would struggle a lot when it comes to a real language
00:36.33mindjujuhey, macnewbold, how is gradefix coming along?
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01:05.23macnewboldmindjuju: gradefix is going pretty well, growing pretty steadily
01:05.44macnewboldstill not enough hours in the day though to do everything I'd like for work, home/family/other, and gradefix too
01:06.11mindjujuthat's awesome news!  i know what you mean about the hours too!
01:06.50mindjujudoing some pro bono stuff for a charity, and i've thrown in about 25 hours already, need to put in another 20 ~ 25 and I think it'll be ok
01:06.53macnewboldluckily almost all of the gf work is improvements now, not bug fixes :)
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03:15.07mindjujumacnewbold, bigdog_ut or anybody around?
03:15.12macnewboldyeah
03:15.12el_gauchoy
03:15.23mindjujuwow, both, my lucky day
03:16.00mindjujuk, i'm building a page tracker for clients and non clients alike.  if client, i want to store the accountID, if not, i want to store the sessionID and IP
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03:16.36mindjujuya'll would use 1 table to store it, wouldn't ya'll?  i mean, doesn't make a whole lot of sense in this case to split it out into a couple of tables here, would it?
03:16.53macnewboldnot to me, but bigdog_ut might think differently
03:17.22el_gauchodepends on you requirements and what you are trying to accomplish...im a big fan of normalization
03:18.17mindjujuwell, it's a report that will probably look at on a weekly basis, seeing what pages seem to be effective, etc
03:19.34el_gauchohow does ur table look so far?
03:19.49mindjujuon the week, we're seeing around 7500 page views
03:19.59mindjujutable?  I was thinking something like:
03:20.27mindjuju|trackID|sessionID|dateTime|accountID|IP
03:20.42mindjujui know, horrible for normalization
03:20.56mindjujubut in this case, didn't know how granular to take normalization
03:22.02el_gauchowhat webserver you using?
03:22.15mindjujuIIS 6 - MS SQL 2k5
03:22.20el_gauchooh
03:22.32el_gauchodoesnt iis have session tracking in it already
03:22.39el_gauchothat you have access too?
03:24.06mindjujui have full control of the box, but never used IIS session tracking.  i could look at that to see how far i can get, though if at all possible, i need to resolve to an accountID
03:24.24el_gauchoyeah
03:24.55el_gauchodoes iis have filter support during http request process?
03:25.52mindjujustill searching, though all i can find right now is that it works with asp.net -- not using asp.net
03:26.57el_gauchoif it is just a simple app then just do it in one table
03:31.45macnewboldIIS is a pain
03:32.33el_gauchojbot, el_gaucho is a javascript guru!!!
03:32.38jbot...but el_gaucho is already something else...
03:32.44timinatorLOL
03:32.52timinatorI bet I know what el_guacho is
03:32.59timinator;)
03:33.14el_gauchojbot, el_gaucho is timinator daddy!!!!
03:33.16jbot...but el_gaucho is already something else...
03:33.25timinatorLOL
03:33.26timinatorhaha
03:33.51timinatorfather?!?
03:33.59timinatoris that you, father?
03:34.10timinatorI'm working hard
03:34.16timinatorgimme a break
03:34.43el_gaucho~smack timinator
03:34.44jbotACTION smacks timinator upside the head.
03:34.59el_gauchonow go back to work!!!
03:35.05timinator~wiseguy el_gaucho
03:35.07jbotACTION runs up to el_gaucho and pokes el_gaucho in the eyes!
03:35.17timinatorback at ya
03:35.38el_gauchooh im working...you should see the cool stuff i got now
03:36.04timinatorcool like gis?
03:36.04el_gauchoi got a webservice that does lat,lon to address conversion
03:36.12timinatornice
03:36.20el_gauchoyeah it is killer
03:36.38timinatorlat to lon? ...I've got a table for that
03:36.51timinatoralthough it's just 1 entry per zip code
03:36.56timinatoryou want?
03:37.15el_gaucholat, lon = address
03:37.15timinatorI took it off a mexican near the border
03:37.37timinatorzip = city, state, lat, lon, timezone
03:37.53timinatorwas going to use in  place of pcmiler if it came to that
03:37.58timinatorbut I'm good now
03:38.07timinatoralso dude.
03:38.20el_gauchoi got timezones offsets, national data with it too
03:38.36timinatorcool
03:38.48timinatorno big, but I've got this if you ever want it
03:39.14el_gauchonp...i got 20g of data for mine crap is all
03:40.07timinatoryou want a sql dump?
03:40.23el_gauchonope i dont use sql for mine
03:40.29el_gauchoi use a shape file
03:40.37timinatork
03:40.52timinatorwell, anything I can do for my el_gaucho
03:41.29timinatorwhat is that by the way? you gone latino on me?
03:41.42timinatorhuh? ... liven de vida loca?
03:41.44el_gauchoits in my blood
03:42.00timinatorah
03:42.23timinatorand bigdog_ut==work?
03:42.29el_gauchoyeha
03:42.39el_gauchomy maps are so much better than googles
03:42.45timinatorcool
03:43.02timinatoryou got a link there bigdog?
03:43.30el_gauchono it is secret
03:43.38timinatoroh
03:43.39timinatorok
03:46.35diskotec|wel_gaucho:  cursors.... good or bad?  I'm reading articles going both ways.  I'm just trying to get a count on a record by record basis.  Every time this script will run, it will produce about 6300+ return records.  Not sure how much a cursor will slow down that script
03:48.27el_gauchocursors are good when you need to loop over result sets and you dont want to get the results right away
03:49.01diskotec|wThats what I need to do and this script will be run once a month or so.
03:49.47el_gauchoif you do them right they are good...if not they can cause heartache
03:51.13diskotec|wcool....I had to get the bigdog's opinion before proceding.   :)
03:52.35el_gauchooh i wouldnt say that
03:52.57el_gauchoi like to use them alot with store procedures
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04:32.15timinatorlater guys
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15:18.55bigdog_ut~morning all
15:18.56jbotACTION bends space and time, trapping all in a universe of eternal monday mornings
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16:29.41dripgood morning!
16:29.50dripoh wait.. kind of late  =P
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16:36.16dripjust noticed i wasn't logged in.
16:39.21mindjujuyeah, me too.  it looked like i was on, but when i said good morning, i was instantly thrown off, i guess my session closed, but GAIM didn't know about it
16:46.41bigdog_ut~slap mindjuju
16:46.42jbotACTION slaps mindjuju, keep your grubby fingers to yourself!
16:48.12driptruly a violent room this morning
16:48.28timinator~alicekill drip
16:48.29jbotI want to kill drip, I mean, I wanna, I wanna kill drip. Kill. I wanna see drip's blood and gore and guts and have drip's veins in my teeth.  Eat drip's dead burnt body.  I mean kill, Kill, KILL, KILL.  and I jump around with timinator, yelling "KILL, KILL"
16:50.18mindjuju~nyuk bigdog_ut
16:50.20jbotACTION grabs bigdog_ut nose and hammers it with his other hand!
16:51.25drip~lart mindjuju
16:54.08timinatorouch... that'll leave a mark\
16:54.28timinators/mark\/mark
16:54.35timinatordang fat fingers
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19:56.41mindjuju~rlart
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20:20.46bzobanyone interested in a project?
20:21.11bzobjsmith recommended I ask here.
20:23.09timinatorwhat's the project?
20:23.13bzobbasically a social networking with student, teacher, calendar, etc.
20:23.31bigdog_uttiminator will just farm it out too me....lol
20:23.39timinatortrue
20:23.41bzobhehe
20:23.43timinatorLOL
20:24.20timinatortask #472 for bigdog_ut: build social network with student, teacher, calendar, etc.
20:24.23bzobi have a detailed idea of how i want it to work
20:24.32bigdog_utlike i said
20:25.31bzobjsmith also recommended I talk with wps about design.
20:25.57bigdog_utdid he say anyone for development?
20:26.22bzobjust #uphpu (didn't want to play favorites) ;)
20:26.24wpswho's funding it?
20:26.27bzobme.
20:26.30bigdog_utif not me then i might need to pimpslap him
20:26.36bigdog_utlet me just do that now
20:26.43bigdog_ut~pimpslap jsmith
20:26.51jbotbigdog_ut pimpslaps jsmith.  ouch!
20:26.52bzobi've got a budget set aside
20:28.28jsmithbigdog_ut: I'd recommend you for the job, but I figured you were too busy
20:28.31timinatorif wps is booked, I've got a great graphics guy
20:28.42bigdog_utjsmith, good man...im always too busy
20:29.01bigdog_utif wps does it...then i might need to make some room
20:29.04jsmithI've known bzob for a long time, so I strongly recommended he look for a developer in #uphpu
20:29.06bigdog_ut~love wps
20:29.08jbotIf you love wps so much, why don't you marry it? (oooooh)
20:29.13bzobthx jsmith ...
20:29.21bigdog_utjbot, cause he is married already
20:29.22jbotbigdog_ut: okay
20:29.25jsmithbigdog_ut: If you can squeeze it in, talk to bzob
20:29.38bzobit's a language learning site
20:29.45bzobwith tutors and students.
20:29.57bigdog_uti would make room if wps decides to do it
20:30.08bigdog_utcause we work good together
20:30.28bigdog_ut~wake wps
20:30.29jbotACTION throws a barrel-full of ice water on wps and shouts "GOOD MORNING!!!!"
20:30.39wpsI'll look it over bigdog_ut
20:30.48bzobi'll email both of you.
20:30.52bigdog_utand wps has great language skills
20:31.03bigdog_uthe speaks trailer trash good!
20:31.25timinatorin some parts, that's like another language
20:31.40bigdog_utoh yeah
20:31.44timinatorw/o a fancy name
20:31.49bigdog_utand utahian really well
20:31.50bzob'52 baby!
20:31.54bigdog_utnice
20:32.47somedude2clear
20:32.50somedude2lol
20:33.01somedude2i need bash integrated with xchat
20:33.09somedude2i think windows supports that
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20:43.04macnewboldbzob: I am a partner at www.codegreene.com and we could look at your project if you'd like.
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