| 00:26.01 | bigdog_ut | im ready to head home |
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| 03:24.28 | bigdog_ut | ~lart mindjuju |
| 03:24.45 | bigdog_ut | i think that one was for me |
| 03:24.54 | bigdog_ut | me....dooonnnuutttsss!!! |
| 03:25.04 | bigdog_ut | what cant they do?!!! |
| 03:43.55 | bigdog_ut | ~lart macnewbold |
| 03:44.05 | bigdog_ut | you around mac boy? |
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| 05:01.06 | bigdog_ut | any linode users in the house?! |
| 05:09.47 | tierra | yeah |
| 05:11.02 | bigdog_ut | tierra, is there a way to set the hostname in the platform manager? |
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| 05:12.29 | tierra | na, that would be done via editing /etc/hostname or whatever it is on the basis of distro |
| 05:12.51 | bigdog_ut | now the ip is getting set with dhcp are you allowed to change that? |
| 05:13.00 | bigdog_ut | that is where the hostname is set too? |
| 05:13.23 | tierra | considering there's different policies on how you're supposed to do that per distro, I don't think linode would ever provide a script for that |
| 05:13.57 | bigdog_ut | right the ip and hostname are set via dhcp...can i reconfigure it to do it without dhcp? |
| 05:14.09 | tierra | hostname isn't set via dhcp |
| 05:14.35 | tierra | and Linode DHCP is smart and gives you your appropriate static IP |
| 05:14.49 | tierra | though you can set it up statically |
| 05:15.29 | tierra | see your distro's docs on changing hostname, but usually it's just a simple call to `hostname myhostname` |
| 05:16.57 | bigdog_ut | ill check the hostname file...but right now it is the dhcpclient script that is setting the hostname from dhcp |
| 05:17.16 | bigdog_ut | so im wondering if i set the /etc/hostname if it will override the dhcp supplied one |
| 05:26.06 | tierra | there's also dhcp client settings usually in /etc somewhere where you can disable/enable setting hostname from dhcp |
| 05:26.23 | tierra | I didn't think it changed it by default though if one was set |
| 05:26.58 | bigdog_ut | another reason why redhat sucks |
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| 16:42.09 | _psychic_ | people like eventum? |
| 16:42.36 | synic | bigdog_ut: /etc/sysconfig/network |
| 16:42.58 | bigdog_ut | yes taht is correct...but that is if you do not use dhcp |
| 16:43.27 | synic | hrmm? seems like setting it in there worked regardless of dhcp |
| 16:43.29 | bigdog_ut | dhcp uses the dhclient-script to set it |
| 16:44.21 | bigdog_ut | i had my buddy talk to the head guy and he said that the reverse dns setting should work...it just takes 24 - 36 hours for it to process |
| 16:44.33 | bigdog_ut | not sure why...cause with xmission it was a matter of minutes |
| 16:44.48 | synic | they have a case of the lazy. |
| 16:46.17 | bigdog_ut | yeah...not sure why it takes so long unless they just dont put it in the dns server right way |
| 16:46.34 | macnewbold | you should be able to see the result immediately if you're asking the server directly, |
| 16:46.42 | macnewbold | but if you're going through a cache, it takes time to flush it out |
| 16:46.53 | macnewbold | but they control that with the TTL and stuff on the record |
| 16:47.13 | macnewbold | I'm an advocate of keeping TTLs low, 15 min or so, so that changes take effect quickly |
| 16:47.24 | macnewbold | the only kind of change you can't shorten that way is changing your DNS servers, |
| 16:47.31 | tierra | bigdog_ut: you never mentioned anything about reverse DNS |
| 16:47.33 | macnewbold | cause whois updates only go out once a day |
| 16:48.02 | bigdog_ut | no but i found out that they use the reverse dns to set the hostname for dhcp |
| 16:48.35 | tierra | anyway, RDNS propogation depends on your ISP as it provides that information |
| 16:48.56 | bigdog_ut | correct which is the linode dns servers |
| 16:49.27 | bigdog_ut | but then that needs to be set in the dhcp server too im thinking...not sure how their set up is for that |
| 16:49.34 | fungus | RDNS has nothing to do with whois updates. |
| 16:49.41 | tierra | and even though Linode likes to tell people it takes 24-36 hours, it usually takes less than 6 |
| 16:50.10 | tierra | they have a script that updates their RDNS tables with ThePlanet every 6 hours |
| 16:50.16 | bigdog_ut | we are not taking whois updates |
| 16:50.49 | fungus | If there was no RDNS record before, the change would be visible immediately, assuming your ISP doesn't do any negative caching. |
| 16:50.54 | macnewbold | right, RDNS does not. I was talking in general. it sounds like they've got their TTL too high. |
| 16:51.07 | macnewbold | or won't restart their named to get the changes in there |
| 16:51.19 | fungus | If there was an RDNS record before, it could take up to the TTL of the old record. |
| 16:51.53 | bigdog_ut | i think tierra is correct in that they push the info at given times and it is not that immediate to the dns servers |
| 16:52.08 | bigdog_ut | however, they still need to update the dhcp server too with the information |
| 16:52.18 | fungus | you can see what is left of the TTL with `dig` |
| 16:53.08 | fungus | More often than not, ISPs give a time range like that, because that is what it takes for them to get around to changing it, or their automated system only updates it nightly or so. |
| 16:54.58 | macnewbold | host -a will tell you TTLs too |
| 16:56.29 | fungus | I like dig be cause I get lots of cool info. |
| 16:56.29 | fungus | http://rafb.net/paste/results/zVMW6H43.html |
| 17:00.39 | tierra | http://rafb.net/paste/results/vb86aP27.html <- my Linode RDNS dig |
| 17:01.21 | fungus | yay, fun with dig |
| 17:11.10 | tierra | http://rafb.net/paste/results/3CA1bt75.html <- pulled some old IRC logs |
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| 21:52.21 | mindjuju | macnewbold |
| 21:53.08 | macnewbold | hi mindjuju |
| 21:53.55 | mindjuju | wanted to put in an order for that browser book |
| 21:54.17 | mindjuju | wasn't sure if you got that from our conversation yesterday |
| 22:00.31 | bigdog_ut | tierra, you around? |
| 22:00.50 | tierra | bigdog_ut: yeah |
| 22:01.08 | bigdog_ut | from linode are you getting your ip from dhcp? |
| 22:01.13 | tierra | yeah |
| 22:01.18 | bigdog_ut | k |
| 22:01.23 | bigdog_ut | what distro are you using? |
| 22:01.54 | tierra | Debian |
| 22:01.58 | bigdog_ut | oh |
| 22:16.07 | macnewbold | mindjuju: no I didn't get that (sorry, got pulled away) |
| 22:16.10 | macnewbold | laminated or non? |
| 22:16.22 | bigdog_ut | non |
| 22:18.05 | macnewbold | you want one too, bigdog_ut? |
| 22:18.20 | bigdog_ut | im just answering for him |
| 22:18.21 | bigdog_ut | lol |
| 22:18.24 | macnewbold | ah, fun :) |
| 22:18.55 | bigdog_ut | i thought he would be paying attention...i think he is sleeping on the keyboard again |
| 22:19.03 | macnewbold | regular price is $30 browser book ($55 laminated), $20 card collection ($35 laminated), and we get half off those prices: $15/$27.50, $10/$17.50 |
| 22:19.11 | macnewbold | most people are doing the laminated card collection |
| 23:33.41 | macnewbold | ~wake mindjuju |
| 23:33.42 | jbot | ACTION throws a barrel-full of ice water on mindjuju and shouts "GOOD MORNING!!!!" |