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| 15:21.55 | brasto | are these chats archived somewhere? |
| 15:23.12 | macnewbold | ~uphpu archives |
| 15:23.14 | jbot | hmm... uphpu archives is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23uphpu/, or http://uphpu.org/pipermail/uphpu/ |
| 15:23.26 | macnewbold | the first is IRC logs, the second the mail list archives |
| 15:24.27 | macnewbold | so watch what you say, brasto, cause Big Brother is listening and recording... |
| 15:25.01 | brasto | ~quivers with fear |
| 15:27.05 | brasto | I've kept mail list archives ever since I joined. That way their not broken down by month. Of course Google site searches don't care if it's broken down by month anyway... |
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| 15:34.55 | macnewbold | I've got similar mail archives, plus a few off-list messages |
| 15:36.42 | brasto | yes, that's another advantage of a personal archive. I've put off-list messages in mine as well. |
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| 18:21.27 | mindjuju | ~rlart |
| 18:21.52 | fungus | ~lart mindjuju |
| 18:22.21 | mindjuju | ~lart fungus |
| 18:22.42 | fungus | ~lart jbot |
| 18:22.54 | mindjuju | backfire! |
| 18:22.59 | fungus | hey! that isn't nice. |
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| 20:49.18 | mindjuju | ~rlart |
| 20:54.25 | wps | can someone ping zonder.com for me? |
| 20:55.21 | brasto | i'm not getting a response from zonder |
| 20:56.52 | brasto | --- zonder.com ping statistics --- |
| 20:56.52 | brasto | 110 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 109018ms |
| 20:57.05 | wps | weird |
| 20:57.07 | wps | anyone else? |
| 20:57.34 | wps | what's the IP it's giving you? |
| 20:58.00 | brasto | 208.53.44.165 |
| 20:58.27 | wps | what happens when you load "http://zonder.com" in a web browser? |
| 20:59.06 | brasto | it works |
| 20:59.18 | wps | now that doesn't make sense right? |
| 20:59.19 | brasto | a firewall must be blocking pings |
| 20:59.26 | wps | the site loads but not ping response? |
| 20:59.45 | brasto | i think msn does that as well |
| 20:59.53 | wps | can you block pings but still serve pages? |
| 21:00.32 | brasto | yes |
| 21:00.41 | brasto | --- msn.com ping statistics --- |
| 21:00.41 | brasto | 4 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 3009ms |
| 21:00.52 | brasto | it's firewall |
| 21:00.58 | wps | why would you want to do that? for security? |
| 21:01.03 | brasto | it blocks ping flooding/ping attacks |
| 21:03.16 | brasto | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ping_flood |
| 21:05.42 | fungus | blocking pings is pretty silly, unless your machines are running Windows. :) |
| 21:06.23 | wps | his are |
| 21:06.23 | wps | :) |
| 21:12.21 | macnewbold | wps: is there a title for Thursday's presentation? some of the guys are asking |
| 21:12.28 | macnewbold | then we ought to put it in the topic here and in a post on the site |
| 21:13.18 | wps | what does everyone want me to present on? |
| 21:13.36 | wps | display logic? XHTML/CSS? photoshop? |
| 21:14.01 | wps | OOP? |
| 21:14.41 | wps | database abstraction? |
| 21:14.48 | macnewbold | mindjuju wanted some photoshop tips I think, |
| 21:14.49 | wps | AJAX on rails? |
| 21:15.02 | macnewbold | and the mail list wanted some xhtml/css magic |
| 21:15.54 | macnewbold | I'd love to see a bunch of simple case studies of how you'd do things with the "fewer tables" design philosophy, especially for things that are tricky or that I'd normally use a table for |
| 21:16.08 | wps | k |
| 21:16.55 | macnewbold | but present on what you like |
| 21:17.06 | macnewbold | whatever it is, I'm sure we'll take somethign good from it |
| 21:17.15 | macnewbold | when you decide, send mail to the list so we get everyone to show up |
| 21:17.23 | fungus | have you voted? http://ga4.org/pacforachange/senate_vote.html |
| 21:18.32 | *** topic/#UPHPU by wps -> Meeting Thursday: interface developmentâstructure and content |
| 22:02.04 | macnewbold | it's very tempting to vote a bunch, since I have an infinite number of valid email addresses that reach me, but I'll resist |
| 22:19.00 | brasto | I agree on XHTML/CSS. |
| 22:19.57 | brasto | LOL, *@macnewbold.com? |
| 22:26.43 | macnewbold | yeah, and other things... I've got at least 4 domains where my address is the catchall, and probably more, plus a bunch of other addresses |
| 22:29.50 | brasto | wouldn't that make it easy for spammers to reach you? Do you use some advanced spam blocking software? |
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