| 01:07.15 | diskotec|w | pretty cool idea.... http://www.dhtmlgoodies.com/index.html?whichScript=drag-drop-folder-tree |
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| 03:37.09 | wps | I think that tag clouds are one of the dumbest things I've ever seen |
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| 17:01.33 | *** topic/#uphpu is Utah PHP Users Group | uphpu.org |
| 17:01.35 | macnewbold | so you cut off characters and add ... and keep removing chars until it doesn't wrap |
| 17:01.38 | brasto | doh! |
| 17:01.50 | brasto | irc doesn't allow code blocks... |
| 17:02.00 | macnewbold | I see the css you pasted |
| 17:03.24 | brasto | it's broken up with my name between each line for me, but it's there... |
| 17:03.54 | macnewbold | so yeah, that's a complete hack, and the javascript would have to do that operation on every line you wanted to cut off like that, and recompute it every time the text changed sizes or the box changed sizes, and it would have to try a whole bunch of different strings to find the right length (at least a binary search for the length, so order of log base 2 of strlen |
| 17:04.09 | macnewbold | yeah, that's right |
| 17:04.21 | macnewbold | every line in IRC comes through separately, even if you send them at one time |
| 17:04.31 | macnewbold | ~welcome jbot |
| 17:04.32 | jbot | Hey, jbot! Glad you could join us. |
| 17:04.45 | brasto | Here's the CSS for the <li> item, which is how I'm currently hiding the text: |
| 17:05.08 | brasto | .resultBlock li { font-size : .8em; overflow : hidden; width : 130px; height : 1.3em; } |
| 17:07.57 | brasto | is there a best time of day when people are using this irc? I've come on a few times and found nobody else here. |
| 17:08.47 | _psychic_ | I'm here all day usually |
| 17:08.52 | _psychic_ | it gets quiet sometimes for sure |
| 17:08.56 | _psychic_ | ~rlart |
| 17:09.31 | jnbek | rofl!!! |
| 17:12.33 | brasto | thank you for your suggestion, Mac, I'll have to play with that idea a little. |
| 17:16.38 | brasto | is there a way to truncate text with php at a pixel size via one of the substring functions? |
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| 17:25.36 | brasto | answering my own question on pixel-sized substrings: Nope, not that I can find... |
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| 17:43.57 | brasto | is there a way to indent just the first line of an <li> when you have list-style-type : none? |
| 17:44.47 | brasto | list-style-position : inside does not seem to work... |
| 17:46.06 | macnewbold | you might try putting a left margin on it I guess? |
| 17:47.32 | macnewbold | and in php, all the string functions deal with characters, not pixels. only image functions (www.php.net/image) will deal with pixels related to strings. You've got to basically render the text in a font to get a string to pixels relationship. |
| 17:49.19 | brasto | I put a left margin on it, but that indents all lines, even with this: |
| 17:49.48 | brasto | .resultBlock li:first-line { margin-left : -40px; } |
| 17:52.43 | brasto | OK, it's text-indent |
| 17:53.03 | brasto | no pseudo-element first-line needed |
| 17:54.05 | macnewbold | you had a left margin on the .resultBlock, .resultBlock li, or just the first li in the result block? |
| 17:54.16 | macnewbold | the last was what I was suggesting |
| 17:56.06 | brasto | http://mylumbertrader.com/rss/ |
| 17:56.46 | brasto | I tried the left margin on .resultBlock li and on .resultBlock li:first-line |
| 17:57.07 | brasto | that didn't work, but text-indent on .resultBlock li did work. |
| 17:57.30 | brasto | Now I'm letting the text wrap instead of hiding the overflow. |
| 17:58.24 | brasto | then I'll use php to chop by number of chars, and if someone resizes to bigger text, the text will wrap, but they'll still be able to tell each list item apart. |
| 17:59.01 | brasto | then I don't need to chop by pixels anymore, and it's accessibility is probably better. |
| 18:00.49 | macnewbold | very true |
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| 18:54.36 | mindjuju | ~rlart |
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| 18:56.19 | brasto | what's priority? |
| 18:56.54 | brasto | I should have very high priority :) |
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| 19:04.31 | mindjuju | it was just a random lart and you got chosen |
| 19:04.33 | mindjuju | ~rlart |
| 19:05.35 | brasto | ah, and what's a lart? |
| 19:20.26 | brasto | ok... The LART classic is a 2x4 or other large billet of wood usable as a club, to be applied upside the head of spammers and other people who cause sysadmins more grief than just naturally goes with the job. |
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| 19:55.37 | macnewbold | ~jargon lart |
| 19:55.40 | macnewbold | ~lart |
| 19:56.01 | macnewbold | Desc: Luser Attitude Readjustment Tool |
| 19:56.06 | macnewbold | Usage: lart [#chan] <who> |
| 19:56.09 | macnewbold | Example: lart lenzo infobot's bugginess |
| 19:56.13 | macnewbold | Example: lart #perl everyone perl \=\= lamerville |
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| 20:28.05 | Utah_Dave | ~rlart |
| 20:28.23 | Utah_Dave | dang! |
| 20:29.07 | Utah_Dave | ~rlart |
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| 21:24.10 | brasto | back to http://mylumbertrader.com/rss/ , can I keep html entities intact when I use substr() to chop a string? |
| 21:24.39 | _psychic_ | depends how you chop it? |
| 21:26.28 | wps | brandon, are you working with Timothy on this project? |
| 21:26.38 | brasto | yes |
| 21:26.57 | wps | I figured you had to be |
| 21:26.59 | _psychic_ | ooooooo I'm a lumberjack and I'm okay.... |
| 21:27.17 | wps | there aren't that many people working on projects for lumber distributors |
| 21:27.23 | brasto | i chop with trim(substr($title, 0, 16)) |
| 21:27.30 | _psychic_ | chop hehe |
| 21:27.37 | wps | :) |
| 21:27.43 | wps | good one, _psychic_ |
| 21:27.50 | _psychic_ | can't resist |
| 21:27.53 | brasto | lol |
| 21:28.13 | brasto | /tests commands |
| 21:28.21 | wps | ~brasto |
| 21:28.25 | brasto | nope, that's now how you do it... |
| 21:28.34 | wps | ~_psychic_ |
| 21:28.39 | _psychic_ | ? |
| 21:28.43 | wps | ++_psychic_ |
| 21:28.53 | wps | karma, _psychic_ |
| 21:28.58 | _psychic_ | ~wps++ |
| 21:29.07 | wps | ~_psychic_ ++ |
| 21:29.11 | wps | jbot, _psychic_ karma |
| 21:29.14 | _psychic_ | ~bdhit wps |
| 21:29.16 | jbot | ACTION gives wps the Priest Flip of the Blessed Foulness |
| 21:29.16 | brasto | ~tests comment |
| 21:29.25 | wps | how do you list someone's karma points? |
| 21:29.32 | wps | jbot, karma _psychic_ |
| 21:29.32 | jbot | _psychic_ has neutral karma |
| 21:29.34 | brasto | jbot, how do you do that? |
| 21:29.35 | jbot | ACTION *shrugs* |
| 21:29.38 | wps | there it is |
| 21:29.46 | wps | jbot, karma _psychic_++ |
| 21:29.46 | jbot | _psychic_++ has neutral karma |
| 21:29.55 | brasto | *that's how?* |
| 21:29.56 | _psychic_ | trying to doc me for being punny? ;) |
| 21:30.08 | wps | no, I was trying to give a karma point |
| 21:30.21 | wps | ~wedgie, macnewbold |
| 21:30.28 | macnewbold | ~bonk wps |
| 21:30.29 | jbot | ACTION bonks wps over the head |
| 21:30.32 | wps | dang |
| 21:30.38 | brasto | so, any ideas on keeping entities intact? |
| 21:30.38 | macnewbold | ~_psychic_++ |
| 21:30.39 | _psychic_ | ~shakespeare wps |
| 21:30.40 | jbot | ACTION stands up and quotes Shakespeare: wps - Thou impertinent elf-skinned scullian! |
| 21:30.54 | wps | jbot, melvin macnewbold |
| 21:30.56 | jbot | ACTION pulls macnewbold underwear up to the ceiling...and smiles |
| 21:30.59 | _psychic_ | brasto: how are you splitting the string? |
| 21:30.59 | wps | there we go |
| 21:31.17 | brasto | trim(substr($title, 0, 16)) |
| 21:31.49 | _psychic_ | $title has entities in in? |
| 21:31.51 | _psychic_ | *it? |
| 21:32.22 | brasto | yes: while ($item = mysql_fetch_assoc($items)) |
| 21:32.30 | brasto | it's parsed rss |
| 21:32.48 | brasto | then, $title = $item['title']; |
| 21:32.56 | _psychic_ | you might render the entities |
| 21:33.00 | _psychic_ | truncate it |
| 21:33.13 | _psychic_ | then go back to entities |
| 21:34.10 | brasto | how do I render the entities? I can't find the reverse function for htmlentities()... |
| 21:34.16 | _psychic_ | html_entity_decode() |
| 21:34.28 | _psychic_ | where did you look? |
| 21:36.01 | brasto | i was looking at Quanta's internal php documentation... should have been looking at http://www.php.net/manual/en/ref.strings.php ... |
| 21:36.29 | brasto | I didn't know Quanta's documentation was missing any functions, but I do know. |
| 21:36.46 | brasto | ~beats head on wall... |
| 21:36.50 | _psychic_ | just use the php manual |
| 21:36.55 | _psychic_ | php.net/htmlentities |
| 21:36.59 | _psychic_ | shows "If you're wanting to decode instead (the reverse) you can use html_entity_decode()." |
| 21:37.28 | brasto | yea, i see it now. |
| 21:37.31 | brasto | thank you |
| 21:37.35 | _psychic_ | you're welcome |
| 21:45.11 | brasto | now I'm getting: |
| 21:45.13 | brasto | Warning: cannot yet handle MBCS in html_entity_decode()! in /home/fishhead/public_html/mylumbertrader/rss/domxml.php on line 32 |
| 21:45.30 | brasto | does this mean I can't use utf-8? |
| 21:46.47 | brasto | ah... this answers my question: |
| 21:46.48 | brasto | Note: This function doesn't support multi-byte character sets in PHP < 5. |
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| 22:23.23 | Utah_Dave | macnewbold: do you use stored procedures much in MySQL? |
| 22:23.27 | Utah_Dave | or anybody else? |
| 22:27.35 | macnewbold | Utah_Dave: no, I don't |
| 22:27.45 | macnewbold | as in, I never have, since all my servers are still < 5 |
| 22:27.59 | macnewbold | my main ones are 4.0, and I use some that are 4.1 |
| 22:28.04 | Utah_Dave | I'm going through a cool tutorial on it. |
| 22:28.33 | macnewbold | the language for stored procedures is more limited than the other languages I use, and almost 100% of my stuff has an interface in only one language |
| 22:28.52 | macnewbold | so I can do stuff easier in PHP, without worrying about having to reimplement that functionality in another language that used the same db |
| 22:28.52 | Utah_Dave | I'm thinking of moving some logic to the database because we might be using some python gui stuff to access data in our MySQL database |
| 22:29.20 | macnewbold | if I did, the stored procedures would make the most sense, so I could make sure every interface was using the same code to interact with the db |
| 22:31.06 | Utah_Dave | yeah, there's come data summary stuff that seems ripe for a stored procedure. |
| 22:32.53 | macnewbold | yeah, probably so |
| 22:33.05 | macnewbold | I've used them in oracle a bit while I was in a databases class |
| 22:36.17 | fungus | Stored procedures would be interesting, but what I really want is subqueries and views! |
| 22:37.04 | Utah_Dave | yep |
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