| 00:39.31 | mindjuju | ghostrider the movie? wow! who knew? |
| 00:40.46 | mindjuju | spiderman looks cool |
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| 01:26.52 | mindjuju | you around bigdog_ut |
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| 04:12.27 | bigdog_ut | i am now |
| 04:28.55 | bigdog_ut | mindjuju, wake up brother!!!! |
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| 15:51.01 | Utah_Dave | macnewbold: are still looking for beta testers? I have a brother in school that might be interested |
| 15:51.11 | macnewbold | yeah, we are |
| 15:52.20 | Utah_Dave | how can he and I sign up? I sent in my email from the webpage |
| 15:52.23 | macnewbold | what do you want to know about it? |
| 15:52.25 | macnewbold | ah great |
| 15:52.39 | macnewbold | okay, I'll make sure I've got that okay, and I'll pass his name along |
| 15:52.48 | Utah_Dave | ok, cool |
| 15:53.14 | macnewbold | does his email start with emails@ |
| 15:53.20 | macnewbold | domain includes boucha? |
| 15:53.40 | macnewbold | what's his name? |
| 15:55.00 | macnewbold | if he has questions, have him contact me, I think you have my email address |
| 15:55.06 | macnewbold | thanks Utah_Dave! |
| 15:55.30 | macnewbold | by the way, the guy you referred called me the other day, and he's coming in monday |
| 15:55.50 | macnewbold | he was a little confused, and thought he wanted his highly proprietary app to be open source GPL |
| 16:00.47 | Utah_Dave | yeah, his name is Mark |
| 16:00.55 | macnewbold | k |
| 16:00.58 | Utah_Dave | my brother |
| 16:01.01 | macnewbold | I'll add him to the list |
| 16:01.12 | macnewbold | I think we've still got some invites available, there are only 20 |
| 16:01.24 | Utah_Dave | Yeah, Lorin's doesn't 'get' some tech ideas |
| 16:01.57 | macnewbold | mindjuju's brother might be doing it too |
| 16:02.00 | macnewbold | which would be cool |
| 16:02.05 | macnewbold | we want to get a diverse group if we can |
| 16:02.06 | Utah_Dave | but he's definitely willing to pay. He's always paid me on time for stuff I've done for him |
| 16:02.09 | macnewbold | that's good |
| 16:02.22 | macnewbold | hopefully we can set him up with something that will do what he wants |
| 16:02.47 | macnewbold | (Lorin, I mean, but it applies to your brother too) |
| 16:02.47 | Utah_Dave | yeah, he bought some php dating software that I was customizing for him. |
| 16:03.15 | macnewbold | yeah, customizing or overhauling software that someone else built isn't usually very fun, and can take a long time |
| 16:03.15 | Utah_Dave | but it was too much work to get all the features he wanted integrated with the package he bought |
| 16:03.20 | macnewbold | yeah, I bet |
| 16:03.39 | macnewbold | we have had the same problem before, with anything from shopping carts to you name it |
| 16:03.43 | Utah_Dave | I figured it would be cheaper in the long run to have a professional do it |
| 16:04.02 | macnewbold | now we go custom unless there's something that is almost exactly what we need, right out of the box, that we won't have to significantly customize |
| 16:05.04 | Utah_Dave | yeah, I thought it would be easier to buy something and base it off of that, but it was such a pain to figure out their code and work around the strange idiosyncrasies. |
| 16:05.32 | macnewbold | yeah, I haven't found one yet that isn't like that... |
| 16:05.36 | macnewbold | it's really disappointing |
| 16:05.43 | macnewbold | and most of the time they're really scarce on docs |
| 16:05.49 | Utah_Dave | In the end, it was going cost too much money in labor and plus my wife and I got 3 foster kids and my extra time evaporated |
| 16:05.58 | macnewbold | especially docs for people who want to figure out how it works |
| 16:06.01 | macnewbold | cool! Congrats! |
| 16:06.10 | macnewbold | do you have them for a fixed time or indefinitely? |
| 16:06.20 | Utah_Dave | NO docs at all, and the coder was russian |
| 16:06.28 | macnewbold | what ages are they? are they related? |
| 16:06.33 | macnewbold | (to you or to each other) |
| 16:06.51 | Utah_Dave | we'll probably have them for a long time. 8, 6, and 5. 2 brothers and a sister |
| 16:07.04 | macnewbold | we've been wanting to do something like that in a few years |
| 16:07.08 | macnewbold | do you have any other kids? |
| 16:07.25 | macnewbold | that's awesome |
| 16:07.56 | Utah_Dave | nope, no kids of our own. although we've been "trying" for like 6 years. :) |
| 16:08.20 | macnewbold | ah |
| 16:09.00 | macnewbold | we started trying about 5-6 years ago, and have 3 boys now, one turns 5 in less than a month, one is 3.5, and one is 0.5 |
| 16:10.23 | Utah_Dave | cool! |
| 16:10.39 | Utah_Dave | I grew up in a family of 5 boys. |
| 16:13.10 | macnewbold | you don't have a brother named Oliver do you? |
| 16:13.17 | Utah_Dave | nope |
| 16:13.19 | macnewbold | We do have a David and a Mark though :) |
| 16:13.31 | macnewbold | my dad is one of 5 boys too |
| 16:14.14 | Utah_Dave | hey, with Lorin, make sure you figure out EXACTLY what he wants. Sometimes he thinks he's telling you what features he wants, but he doesn't always have enough tech vocabulary to express it. |
| 16:14.18 | macnewbold | and my wife is one of 6 girls |
| 16:14.30 | macnewbold | yeah, our meeting monday should help a lot |
| 16:14.37 | macnewbold | I already got a lot from him in a phone conversatoin |
| 16:15.48 | Utah_Dave | good. He's a good guy. I told him you were the bomb and one of the top professionals in Utah. :) I'm afraid you might have a lot to live up to! :) |
| 16:25.56 | wps | anyone know which options are available for internet in Lehi? |
| 16:26.10 | wps | I am aware of three: digis, high speed utah, and comcost |
| 16:26.12 | wps | any others? |
| 16:28.09 | wps | anyone remember the name of the ISP in American Fork that is part of Utopia? |
| 16:28.43 | wps | ah… found it |
| 16:28.45 | wps | AF Connect |
| 16:28.50 | wps | thanks, Wade |
| 16:28.53 | wps | any time |
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| 18:50.11 | mindjuju | referring to yourself in the 3rd person can be dangerous |
| 18:50.38 | mindjuju | even if your congratulating yourself on a job well done |
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| 21:19.49 | _psychic_ | wps: we use cakephp for our intranet |
| 21:20.07 | wps | does it have any intranet features or is it just a general CMS? |
| 21:21.40 | _psychic_ | "intranet features" ? |
| 21:21.47 | _psychic_ | and its a framework, not a CMS |
| 21:21.56 | _psychic_ | its made it easy for us to plug things into it |
| 21:24.11 | wps | HR-style stuff |
| 21:24.15 | wps | examples: |
| 21:24.15 | wps | http://www.intranetconnections.com/ |
| 21:24.16 | wps | http://www.vialect.com |
| 21:24.16 | wps | http://www.mindbridge.com |
| 21:24.16 | wps | http://phpgroupware.org |
| 21:25.01 | _psychic_ | no... its not intranet software if that's what you were asking |
| 21:25.13 | _psychic_ | we wanted something we could build anything into without any hassle |
| 21:25.31 | wps | we need something mostly done that we just have to skin |
| 21:27.43 | macnewbold | I've heard things about phpgroupware I think |
| 21:27.44 | macnewbold | sugarcms might have some intranet-like features you'd like |
| 21:27.55 | wps | the other people assigned to the project are suggesting Share Point :( |
| 21:29.00 | fungus | SugarCRM is for managing sales type stuff. It will take quite a bit of work to get it to do more Intranet type stuff. |
| 21:34.51 | macnewbold | okay |
| 21:34.58 | macnewbold | I haven't really played with it much |
| 21:35.26 | macnewbold | there are a bunch of proprietary programs that purport to do what you want |
| 21:37.08 | fungus | SugarCRM is really cool and does a whole lot. It looks pretty extendable, but the base is geared toward Customer Relations, not employee relations. |
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| 21:40.17 | wps | jbot, pass out some drinks |
| 21:40.36 | wps | jbot, kiss jbot |
| 21:40.38 | jbot | ACTION smooches jbot on the cheek |
| 21:40.50 | wps | he's quite flexible |
| 21:41.21 | mindjuju | sup wps |
| 21:43.48 | wps | yo |
| 21:44.19 | mindjuju | you live a mean schedule. I'm close but not quiet that bad |
| 21:44.32 | mindjuju | i get between 5 1/2 and 6 a day |
| 21:44.37 | mindjuju | sleep hours that is |
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