| 00:05.24 | mindjuju | yo bigdog_ut, sup |
| 00:05.45 | bigdog_ut | not much...how are you doing? |
| 00:06.02 | mindjuju | not too shabby. how goes the search? |
| 00:06.33 | bigdog_ut | kinda sucks really...havent found any good companies...had and interview with zions bank and i was not impressed with them |
| 00:07.01 | mindjuju | yeah, pickings are slim if your going corporate |
| 00:07.21 | mindjuju | eBay is good with tons of perks but all their DBAs are in San Jose |
| 00:07.25 | bigdog_ut | yeah...they are the ones that can afford |
| 00:07.37 | mindjuju | though i don't know what they are doing for J2EE |
| 00:07.41 | bigdog_ut | utah sucks for high end |
| 00:07.50 | mindjuju | true that |
| 00:08.14 | mindjuju | my start wage in the field was 10k higher in houston then what I landed in utah, but it was what the market would pay here |
| 00:08.15 | bigdog_ut | so im still looking...not too worried now |
| 00:08.37 | bigdog_ut | yeah...utah is not good for high tech market imho |
| 00:09.13 | bigdog_ut | and i have just had some crappy interviews really...guys trying to so me up on skillz |
| 00:09.34 | bigdog_ut | s/so/show |
| 00:09.45 | mindjuju | you know, now that i think about it, eBay was converting a lot of things to Java before I left them |
| 00:10.04 | mindjuju | i still have tons of pull with some of the dev people |
| 00:10.20 | bigdog_ut | but it is not here is it? |
| 00:10.30 | bigdog_ut | or they are down southern utah? |
| 00:10.49 | mindjuju | well, they have a building here in draper, support center, but that support center does have a small team of dev |
| 00:11.19 | bigdog_ut | do you know those guys? |
| 00:11.27 | mindjuju | yup, several |
| 00:11.51 | mindjuju | trying to see what is open right now officially and i'll send out an email to a friend o mine to see what might be coming down the pipe |
| 00:11.54 | bigdog_ut | i would be interested in hearing more about it if you know |
| 00:12.03 | bigdog_ut | cool |
| 00:12.26 | bigdog_ut | hope we dont have any zions employees here...cuz they suck |
| 00:12.41 | mindjuju | i've heard that before |
| 00:13.07 | bigdog_ut | i wish i could just vent on how crappy they are |
| 00:14.25 | bigdog_ut | the interview questions sucked...i guess i came off a little short with them |
| 00:14.47 | mindjuju | here is the general page for their careers |
| 00:14.49 | mindjuju | http://www.ebaycareers.com/jobsearch/index.html |
| 00:15.19 | mindjuju | pay in SLC is a smidge lower than SJ, but higher than fair market here |
| 00:15.33 | mindjuju | perks were nice |
| 00:15.41 | mindjuju | options were good, benefits, etc |
| 00:16.38 | mindjuju | total corporate atmosphere, though the downstairs is a call center |
| 00:16.50 | mindjuju | upstairs is where the dev teams are |
| 00:17.16 | bigdog_ut | cool |
| 00:17.52 | mindjuju | so, before i send off this email to some people, what was the general area / career path |
| 00:18.06 | mindjuju | seems like last time we talked it was J2EE first, DBA second? |
| 00:18.16 | mindjuju | oh yeah, all their database stuff is oracle |
| 00:19.07 | bigdog_ut | j2ee/software architecture |
| 00:19.30 | bigdog_ut | dba is a hat i would wear...not a full time type of position i would like to do |
| 00:25.20 | mindjuju | hey bigdog_ut, mind if i ask how long J2EE, and how long oracle? |
| 00:25.46 | mindjuju | is there anything else you want me to mention skills wise? |
| 00:25.50 | bigdog_ut | j2ee 6 yrs, oracle 4 yrs |
| 00:26.17 | bigdog_ut | struts and jms |
| 00:27.37 | bigdog_ut | mindjuju, i can email you a resume if you like |
| 01:20.33 | mindjuju | anybody around? |
| 01:22.20 | mindjuju | bigdog_ut, you still around? |
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