| 00:32.37 | macnewbold | What the heck, this guy is nuts... |
| 00:32.48 | macnewbold | so this guy emails me about the class, right? |
| 00:32.56 | macnewbold | and I reply to him, |
| 00:33.54 | macnewbold | and get this autoreply back from his "active" spam filter, |
| 00:34.09 | macnewbold | making me reply to it again in order to get my message through |
| 00:34.40 | jsmith | And it's broken! |
| 00:35.05 | macnewbold | I jumped through the hoop, then replied to him saying this: |
| 00:35.08 | macnewbold | By the way, if you're expecting a reply from me, you could at least have |
| 00:35.08 | macnewbold | whitelisted me instead of making me reply twice to get an answer to you. I |
| 00:35.08 | macnewbold | recommend SpamAssasin or the filters built into mail clients like |
| 00:35.08 | macnewbold | Thunderbird. |
| 00:35.19 | macnewbold | and he totally went postal about it |
| 00:35.38 | macnewbold | I replied to that, nicely, gently, calmly, and he replied again |
| 00:35.44 | macnewbold | with all this crazy stuff |
| 00:36.04 | macnewbold | about how immature I am, how he marvels that I can stay in business, |
| 00:36.14 | macnewbold | how I just cost myself $300 in sales, |
| 00:36.31 | macnewbold | and him and his buddy are falling out of their chairs in laughter at the whole thing |
| 00:36.41 | macnewbold | okay, everybody, |
| 00:36.44 | macnewbold | or at least somebody |
| 00:36.57 | macnewbold | read that paragraph, from "By the way" to "Thunderbird", |
| 00:37.07 | xilch|w | ok |
| 00:37.20 | macnewbold | and tell me honestly if I'm out of line or if that would have upset you |
| 00:37.28 | macnewbold | if I had sent it to you and you were using a system like that |
| 00:37.48 | xilch|w | nah - especially if I was requesting info from you |
| 00:37.53 | macnewbold | (sorry, had to vent a bit... anyone want to see the transcript?) |
| 00:38.04 | macnewbold | (if so, msg me an email addy and I'll forward them to you) |
| 00:38.10 | macnewbold | (then we can all laugh about them too) |
| 00:38.13 | xilch|w | but if I found out you were using apple hardware, then it would have been ON! |
| 00:38.21 | macnewbold | hehe, not I |
| 00:38.24 | xilch|w | :) |
| 00:38.34 | macnewbold | mindjuju: you're on |
| 00:39.20 | mindjuju | cool |
| 00:40.11 | macnewbold | sent |
| 00:42.20 | macnewbold | am I weird for telling people who use those that they annoy the rest of us? |
| 00:42.39 | macnewbold | I hate how they make _his_ spam issues _my_ problem, and I'm the one stuck doing extra work if I want to talk to him |
| 00:43.15 | fungus | I agree that they are annoying. I never respond to them. |
| 00:43.24 | jsmith | macnewbold: I've seen worse... |
| 00:43.31 | macnewbold | it's like setting up your home phone so that when anyone new calls you, it takes a message, dials them back again, and makes them call back a 2nd time to actually talk to them |
| 00:43.47 | jsmith | macnewbold: I had one where the guy required you to go to a website and type in your email address to approve it. |
| 00:43.58 | jsmith | macnewbold: Only his website was broken, and gave database errors. |
| 00:44.00 | macnewbold | the stupid thing is that by the time I found out it got held up, I'd already taken time to write up a nice reply, and didn't want to waste that |
| 00:44.06 | macnewbold | jsmith: yeah, that's worse |
| 00:44.17 | jsmith | macnewbold: And of course I couldn't email him to tell him it was broken. |
| 00:44.17 | macnewbold | but I bet he didn't get much spam |
| 00:44.21 | macnewbold | or email from any new people... |
| 00:44.32 | jsmith | macnewbold: He didn't get any response to his plea for Asterisk help either... |
| 00:44.35 | macnewbold | hehe |
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| 00:56.08 | mindjuju | wow, that guy was a jerk. i think you handled it professionally |
| 00:57.22 | macnewbold | oh, good, thanks. You're not just saying that because you're a friend right? |
| 00:57.46 | Utah_Dave | is he in here or #utaug often? |
| 00:57.47 | macnewbold | oh, and funniest thing: He's not even a real geek, it doesn't seem. He's the customer service manager for a cleaning supplies and chemicals company. |
| 00:58.04 | macnewbold | Utah_Dave: the guy I corresponded with? No, never heard of him before. |
| 00:58.17 | macnewbold | I don't even know how he heard about the class |
| 00:58.29 | Utah_Dave | maybe he's on the uphpu list |
| 01:00.14 | mindjuju | sorry, boss came in and asked a quick question. wasn't just saying that. he has to know that he look unprofessional by initiating an email thread and then making people go through the spam filter |
| 01:02.58 | macnewbold | yeah, that's what I think |
| 01:03.38 | macnewbold | all he had to do was whitelist me when he asked the question, or better yet, set up his email so that anyone in his sent-mail folder is auto-whitelisted |
| 01:03.48 | macnewbold | and then it wouldn't have been a problem at all |
| 01:03.50 | mindjuju | i probably would have sent one final email saying that the spam advice was a freebie and that he should consider himself lucky for you throwing him a clue for free |
| 01:03.55 | macnewbold | hehe |
| 01:04.05 | macnewbold | yeah, I was trying not to get inflammatory |
| 01:04.08 | macnewbold | I was struggling :) |
| 01:04.35 | macnewbold | anyway, gotta go give a pint of blood, then get my slides done for tomorrow's class at 9am |
| 01:04.39 | macnewbold | have a good night, all! |
| 01:04.44 | mindjuju | cya |
| 01:04.58 | macnewbold | thanks for reading that, btw, mindjuju |
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| 01:23.32 | Utah_Dave | woohoo |
| 01:23.49 | Utah_Dave | gmail is now hosting my family domain's email. it is pretty slick |
| 01:30.05 | mindjuju | love gmail |
| 01:30.10 | mindjuju | i hope they take over the world |
| 01:32.04 | Utah_Dave | yup |
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| 14:58.37 | Lone_Wanderer | The class this morning is at 9 am right? |
| 15:01.51 | Lone_Wanderer | Fine, fine, I'll search my email. |
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| 18:31.16 | bigdog_ut | whatz up all? |
| 18:32.12 | jsmith | PHP programming, for the first time in quite a while... |
| 18:32.19 | bigdog_ut | lol |
| 18:32.28 | jsmith | (Well, it's more pgsql programming than PHP, but it's some PHP too) |
| 18:32.37 | bigdog_ut | nice |
| 18:38.08 | wps | that'll get bigdog_ut's attention |
| 18:38.24 | wps | being a big PostgreSQL fan |
| 18:38.34 | jsmith | Well, he and me both... |
| 18:51.00 | veruus | clipart is evil |
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| 18:54.13 | jsmith | veruus: Not when someone donates a bunch to you, which drives up the number of website visitors, which drives up revenue... |
| 18:54.32 | veruus | ill-gotten gains... |
| 18:54.39 | veruus | ;) |
| 18:54.49 | jsmith | Nope... not ill-gotten at all. |
| 18:55.00 | jsmith | The person donating them knew full well what was going to happen. |
| 18:55.21 | jsmith | (That person had sold them on floppies over 10 years ago, but the market dried up) |
| 18:55.32 | veruus | no, I mean the fact that it's based on propagating clipart throughout the world |
| 18:55.36 | veruus | :D |
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| 18:55.49 | veruus | DIE CLIPART!!1 |
| 18:56.14 | jsmith | Hey, I don't mind if somebody else wants all that artsy stuff... just as long as I don't see it on my walls... |
| 18:56.29 | herlo | kind of like watching Big Love |
| 18:56.31 | jsmith | Luckily, my wife hates all the artsy crafty stuff |
| 18:56.31 | herlo | :-D |
| 18:56.47 | veruus | that's a good woman you got there |
| 18:56.55 | jsmith | Yes sir! |
| 18:57.05 | herlo | jsmith: agreed |
| 18:57.27 | herlo | and she lets him out of the house once in a while to play games too!!! |
| 18:57.45 | veruus | no "kountry kraft" pastel colored bits of wood glued together sprinkled on the walls |
| 18:57.54 | veruus | and you're in Utah? |
| 18:57.55 | veruus | ;) |
| 18:58.05 | jsmith | veruus: Luckily, my wife isn't from Utah :-) |
| 18:58.22 | veruus | score |
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