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| 06:04.24 | *** topic/#uphpu by wps -> Utah PHP Users Group | uphpu.org |
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| 16:34.25 | Utah_Dave | bigdog_ut: how far were you able to get with the UPHPU eclipse? |
| 16:34.44 | wps | Utah_Dave, it's done |
| 16:34.47 | wps | which version do you want? |
| 16:35.27 | Utah_Dave | linux, also windows for work |
| 16:37.34 | wps | http://uphpu.org/downloads/eclipse/eclipse-3.1.2-linux-uphpu.tar.gz |
| 16:37.45 | wps | http://uphpu.org/downloads/eclipse/eclipse-3.1.2-win-uphpu.tar.gz |
| 17:22.28 | Utah_Dave | wps: thanks! |
| 17:24.50 | wps | you're welcome |
| 17:40.26 | herlo | I assume these builds remove all of the extra stuff except php? |
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| 17:51.46 | wps | correct |
| 17:52.05 | wps | and add plugins such as SVN, CVS, and php syntax/code-completion |
| 17:52.06 | wps | etc |
| 17:52.20 | wps | bigdog_ut: will be publishing an article and tutorial shortly |
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| 21:54.33 | mindjuju | anybody here have to import large quantities of XML data into a database? i'm looking for a tool that will build the fields on the fly according to the description in the xml file and insert the data into those fields |
| 21:55.44 | dataw0lf | that sounds like a job for... MINDJUJU MAN |
| 21:55.47 | dataw0lf | duh duh duuuuuuuuuh |
| 21:56.40 | herlo | post back to the list if you find a good solution, I am guessing many of us would be interested in what you find... |
| 21:57.00 | macnewbold | mindjuju: a php script could probably do it for you |
| 21:57.36 | dataw0lf | mindjuju: never heard of such a thing. I've written a tool to do something similar, but never seen any public tool that is extravagant enough to be released publically. |
| 21:57.53 | dataw0lf | macnewbold: and a python script could do it so much better. |
| 21:57.59 | macnewbold | probably |
| 21:58.08 | dataw0lf | it honestly could, with it's XML tools. |
| 21:58.16 | dataw0lf | PHP + XML = *shudder* |
| 21:58.17 | macnewbold | I used xml_parse_into_struct() for one a while back |
| 21:58.21 | macnewbold | ~bonk dataw0lf |
| 21:58.23 | jbot | ACTION bonks dataw0lf over the head |
| 21:58.28 | dataw0lf | it's the truth though. |
| 21:58.29 | macnewbold | it's not that bad in php |
| 21:58.33 | dataw0lf | oh man, it's pretty bad. |
| 21:58.35 | mindjuju | yeah, was thinking i'd need to write something but was hoping that i wouldn't |
| 21:59.09 | mindjuju | i'm going to try the #sql guys just in case, but i thought it not likely |
| 21:59.14 | mindjuju | is jsmith around? |
| 21:59.23 | dataw0lf | with Python's powerful iterator uses and oop approach it's perfect for XML hacking |
| 22:00.10 | mindjuju | well, i guess i don't need jsmith specifically, but was wondering, doesn't RAID 1 + 0 require 3 hdds ? |
| 22:00.58 | dataw0lf | 2 < |
| 22:01.06 | mindjuju | was wondering because I made a RAID 1 + 0 configuration on an HP dl360 with just 2 |
| 22:01.09 | herlo | I think it can be done with 2 because you can mirror 1 striped drive |
| 22:01.26 | herlo | or something like that |
| 22:01.33 | dataw0lf | you just need two or more 'sets' |
| 22:01.38 | dataw0lf | a set can be a single hard drive. |
| 22:02.14 | dataw0lf | it's rather pointless, but *shrug* most RAID uses are nowadays. |
| 22:02.23 | mindjuju | yeah, was going to say |
| 22:02.58 | dataw0lf | with raid 1+0 you have two or more drives mirrored together and then striped |
| 22:03.03 | dataw0lf | herlo ^ |
| 22:06.40 | jsmith | mindjuju: I'm here... |
| 22:06.52 | jsmith | mindjuju: (now) |
| 22:07.13 | mindjuju | heya jsmith, was going to ask about the RAID 1 + 0 configuration on the dl360, but dataw0lf answered the question |
| 22:07.23 | mindjuju | that you don't need 3 drives for 1 + 0, just 2 |
| 22:08.16 | jsmith | Ah -- we always just mirrored the drives for the DL360, since we didn't need high I/O on them. |
| 22:08.33 | jsmith | mindjuju: On the DL380, we went with RAID 5 |
| 22:08.52 | mindjuju | yeah, i'm going to go that way too |
| 22:09.43 | mindjuju | i got a new dl360 was going to turn into a database server, but after doing research found that i would get a performance boost by turning the dl360 in the webserver, and converting the dl380 into a database server |
| 22:10.25 | jsmith | Yeah... |
| 22:10.40 | jsmith | Especially if the DL380 is a Generation 4 server |
| 22:19.43 | mindjuju | i wish, the dl380 is gen 3 |
| 22:22.47 | jsmith | Still, the 5i controller isn't too bad |
| 22:26.13 | herlo | dataw0lf: did you wanna chat or something? |
| 22:26.32 | herlo | I saw -- (15:02:49) dataw0lf: herlo ^ -- |
| 22:27.33 | dataw0lf | ^ was pointing up at my explanation of raid 1+0 |
| 22:30.02 | herlo | thanx dataw0lf |
| 22:51.39 | wps | gag |
| 22:51.52 | dataw0lf | order |
| 22:52.20 | wps | I am touching a blog app for the first time and am very unimpressed |
| 22:52.39 | macnewbold | hehe |
| 22:52.45 | wps | it uses a database but doesn't run off it! |
| 22:52.57 | macnewbold | ? |
| 22:52.59 | macnewbold | wha? |
| 22:53.05 | wps | each time you make an edit you have to run a scrip that writes the entire site out to flat files! |
| 22:53.12 | macnewbold | eww, gross |
| 22:53.16 | macnewbold | whats' the db for then? |
| 22:53.16 | wps | my employer is having me skin it and it's a pain in butt |
| 22:53.26 | wps | movable type |
| 22:53.48 | wps | and even after (if) I get this thing skinned, I pity the blogger |
| 22:53.53 | wps | you can't just save your entry |
| 22:53.58 | wps | you have save and then "rebuild the site" |
| 22:54.02 | wps | what a joke |
| 22:54.09 | macnewbold | ew |
| 22:54.17 | wps | is wordpress that way? |
| 22:54.19 | macnewbold | are you sure it isn't just misconfigured? |
| 22:54.28 | macnewbold | I've heard great things about moveable type, IIRC |
| 22:54.34 | macnewbold | so it surprises me to have it work like that |
| 22:54.37 | _psychic_ | doesn't movable type have a live publish feature? |
| 22:54.39 | wps | pretty sure… been reading the help docs |
| 22:54.45 | jsmith | wps: No, wordpress isn't that way |
| 22:54.53 | wps | this is rediculous |
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| 23:07.09 | RyanE_ | wps: Is it a high-traffic site, or do they have another reason for having WordPress not run from the DB? |
| 23:10.28 | wps | it's movable type |
| 23:10.35 | wps | and from what I have ready that is how movable type works |
| 23:12.48 | RyanE_ | Aha. My skimming read it as being WordPress, from jsmith's comment |
| 23:13.30 | RyanE_ | yeah, WordPress is *definitely* not that way. Way easier. My wife can use it's interface. |
| 23:13.33 | RyanE_ | and does |
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