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| 01:07.09 | mindjuju | anybody around? |
| 01:07.58 | cycokilr | nope |
| 01:09.40 | mindjuju | i just got in a g3 dl360 |
| 01:09.57 | mindjuju | having some questions about installing the hot swap scsi drives |
| 01:10.23 | mindjuju | figured i'd better find me a manual on it, but thought i'd check to see who i had for backup on the IRC channel |
| 01:10.37 | mindjuju | you work much on the dl360, cycokilr ? |
| 01:17.51 | cycokilr | i did back in 2002ish |
| 01:17.59 | cycokilr | for someone over at byu.. |
| 01:19.18 | cycokilr | didn't do any hot swap stuff though.. |
| 01:19.31 | cycokilr | mostly just gettin' linux installed for the guy cause he couldn't.. |
| 01:21.02 | mindjuju | hmmm... i've just worked on them after the scsi drives have been installed and since this is new drives and new to me server, scsi hadn't been set |
| 01:21.10 | mindjuju | but i've found a couple of manuals on the HP site |
| 01:21.14 | mindjuju | so i think i'll be ok |
| 02:12.34 | mindjuju | WOOT!!! there is a magic CD that is suppose to make everything easy to install and config and I just found the download for it! |
| 03:02.44 | mindjuju | anybody around? |
| 03:07.54 | mindjuju | bigdog_ut |
| 03:42.07 | mindjuju | anybody out there? |
| 04:11.34 | RyanE_ | c'mon, Friday Night. Who's reading IRC on Friday Night? |
| 04:13.36 | mindjuju | well, i guess we both are |
| 04:13.57 | RyanE_ | Just got the kids to bed, time to check it. |
| 04:13.59 | RyanE_ | :) |
| 04:13.59 | mindjuju | know anything about RAID 1+0 by chance? |
| 04:14.12 | RyanE_ | afraid not. I was reading your #utah asking about it. |
| 04:14.21 | RyanE_ | I just use LVM, no mirroring or RAID |
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| 19:58.00 | wps | how do you get a directory via command line FTP? |
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| 21:52.53 | macnewbold | wps: ls |
| 21:52.57 | macnewbold | sometimes ls -l works too |
| 21:53.14 | wps | "get" as in "pull down" |
| 21:53.19 | bigdog_ut | yep |
| 21:53.45 | wps | equivalent of scp -r <directory name> |
| 21:56.53 | wps | does that make sense? |
| 21:57.01 | wps | I don't want to view the contents of a directory. |
| 21:57.11 | wps | I want to download an entire directory |
| 22:02.57 | macnewbold | ah |
| 22:03.26 | macnewbold | I don't know that there's a way to download it into a file other than to save the output of your ftp client when it displays to the terminal |
| 22:03.31 | macnewbold | sorry :( |
| 22:03.50 | wps | what do you mean by "into a file" ? |
| 22:04.07 | wps | I just want to download entire dir (including all of it's contents) |
| 22:04.41 | macnewbold | right |
| 22:04.47 | wps | k |
| 22:04.48 | macnewbold | ls will show that to you |
| 22:04.51 | macnewbold | ah |
| 22:04.53 | macnewbold | wait |
| 22:04.58 | macnewbold | yoiu want to get all the files, not the list of files |
| 22:05.04 | macnewbold | nevermind I misunderstood |
| 22:05.16 | wps | yes, I don't want to list out the files |
| 22:05.16 | macnewbold | the way to do that in a command-line ftp client is with mget (multi-get) |
| 22:05.19 | macnewbold | mget * |
| 22:05.27 | wps | I want to DOWNLOAD an entire dir |
| 22:05.29 | macnewbold | then answer "a" for all when it asks if you want to get it |
| 22:05.41 | wps | awesome |
| 22:05.42 | wps | thanks |
| 22:05.42 | macnewbold | then you'll have to go into each of the subdirs and do the same thing |
| 22:05.44 | macnewbold | most clients though |
| 22:05.53 | wps | there's no recursive? |
| 22:05.54 | macnewbold | will have a recursive mode (except for commandline ones) |
| 22:06.02 | wps | lame |
| 22:06.06 | macnewbold | yeah, well |
| 22:06.08 | bigdog_ut | wps, try ncftp |
| 22:06.17 | macnewbold | the protocol is older than you and I pretty much |
| 22:06.19 | bigdog_ut | that is a nice commandline one |
| 22:06.25 | macnewbold | hasn't changed much since |
| 22:06.25 | wps | I have a friend that I am trying to help with his site and he only has ftp access |
| 22:06.26 | wps | it's painful |
| 22:06.34 | macnewbold | bigdog_ut: what do you have to do in ncftp to get it to recurse? |
| 22:07.04 | macnewbold | wps: on your osx box, cyberduck will do it, or fugu if you can do sftp |
| 22:07.09 | macnewbold | IIRC |
| 22:07.31 | wps | yeah, I use Fugu occassionally, but he doesn't have SFTP access |
| 22:07.36 | bigdog_ut | use ncftpget with -R |
| 22:07.37 | wps | and fugu doesn't do just plain FTP |
| 22:10.39 | bigdog_ut | also with ncftp you can use the get command with the -R and -T option |
| 22:10.54 | bigdog_ut | this will grab a whole directory and tar it up and place the tar on your filesystem |
| 22:11.32 | bigdog_ut | so when in ncftp commandline you would do this: ncftp> get -R <dir> |
| 22:11.56 | bigdog_ut | or you could do bgget -R <dir> and have that process run in the background |
| 22:12.59 | bigdog_ut | wps you still have those uphpu images for eclipse you made? |
| 22:13.29 | wps | yes |
| 22:13.40 | bigdog_ut | cool i might do some more than |
| 22:14.11 | wps | cool |
| 22:14.19 | wps | let me know the rev number and I will update them |
| 22:14.25 | bigdog_ut | k |
| 22:14.33 | bigdog_ut | 3.1.2 will be the eclipse version |
| 22:16.22 | wps | which do you want? |
| 22:16.38 | bigdog_ut | what number do you have on there now? |
| 22:16.40 | wps | if you remember, there were three: brown canvas, colored stripes, and black |
| 22:16.47 | wps | 3.0 |
| 22:17.05 | bigdog_ut | can you email them too me again and lets just do one |
| 22:17.19 | wps | k |
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| 22:22.15 | wps | bigdog_ut: http://home.wadeshearer.com/eclipse_uphpu_splash_1.bmp http://home.wadeshearer.com/eclipse_uphpu_splash_2.bmp http://home.wadeshearer.com/eclipse_uphpu_splash_3.bmp |
| 22:23.00 | bigdog_ut | k |
| 22:23.22 | bigdog_ut | i dont like number 2 |
| 22:23.29 | bigdog_ut | 1 and 3 are good |
| 22:23.31 | bigdog_ut | i like 3 |
| 22:24.05 | wps | use whichever one you'd like |
| 22:24.17 | bigdog_ut | k |
| 22:24.23 | bigdog_ut | i might use black for linux |
| 22:24.30 | bigdog_ut | and the other for window/mac |
| 22:26.24 | bigdog_ut | im going to do a tutorial on all my stuff and do it with a tons more information |
| 22:27.07 | bigdog_ut | that will even drive more people to the site |
| 22:27.10 | bigdog_ut | :) |
| 22:27.16 | wps | yup |
| 22:28.02 | bigdog_ut | anyone use the zend framework yet |
| 22:28.12 | bigdog_ut | i have it downloaded but it doesnt look all that great |
| 22:28.29 | bigdog_ut | zend pear should have been its name |
| 22:28.42 | wps | ha ha |
| 22:41.30 | Utah_Dave | I've started messing with the zend framework. I really like it so far |
| 22:41.59 | bigdog_ut | lol |
| 22:42.05 | Utah_Dave | :) |
| 22:42.18 | Utah_Dave | what don't you like about it? |
| 22:42.37 | bigdog_ut | it is a framework is all |
| 22:42.45 | bigdog_ut | i thought they would provide tools for the framework |
| 22:42.49 | bigdog_ut | which is what is needed |
| 22:43.34 | Utah_Dave | I like that it stays out of way in regards to the design of the site. I hate how most frameworks are good only if you like the default look and layout |
| 22:44.10 | bigdog_ut | i need to look at it some more |
| 22:44.17 | Utah_Dave | wps: you probably were just asking bigdog_ut, but I like the splash with the cloth background and the dark background |
| 22:44.17 | bigdog_ut | but their api was not complete |
| 22:44.23 | Utah_Dave | no, it's not complete yet |
| 22:44.36 | bigdog_ut | even the docs are not complete |
| 22:44.36 | Utah_Dave | it's only a 0.1.2 release or something like that |
| 22:44.49 | bigdog_ut | yeah but you should have docs for the code you do have |
| 22:45.23 | Utah_Dave | I thought the docs were pretty good compared to other frameworks I've tried to learn that had been around quite a while |
| 22:45.42 | Utah_Dave | I agree that they need a lot of work still |
| 22:46.13 | Utah_Dave | so bigdog_ut, are you coming out with a PHP User's Group eclipse plugin? |
| 22:46.32 | bigdog_ut | nope |
| 22:46.46 | bigdog_ut | just a striped down eclipse version for php developer |
| 22:46.48 | bigdog_ut | developers |
| 22:47.08 | bigdog_ut | i think its funny they added lucene to the framework though |
| 22:47.12 | bigdog_ut | but does not suprise me |
| 22:48.11 | bigdog_ut | Utah_Dave, zend will be coming out with a php plugin for eclipse though sometime soon |
| 22:48.17 | Utah_Dave | it is interesting. I haven't tried that module out yet. I've looked through it's documentation and it seems interesting. I don't have any experience with Lucene |
| 22:48.38 | Utah_Dave | how will the eclipse plugin compare to the Zend IDE? |
| 22:49.05 | bigdog_ut | Utah_Dave, zend ide is built on eclipse core |
| 22:49.19 | bigdog_ut | so making there zend studio a plugin will be very simple |
| 22:49.32 | bigdog_ut | then you just added zend studio to eclipse as a normal plugin |
| 22:49.43 | mindjuju | sup gents |
| 22:49.54 | bigdog_ut | easier for zend to have a plugin then the whole app |
| 22:50.07 | Utah_Dave | cool. I'm actually testing the Zend IDE right now for my boss. Should I just wait for the plugin instead of buying from Zend? |
| 22:51.28 | bigdog_ut | it will be a while they are working with ibm on it...so it could be another year |
| 22:51.44 | bigdog_ut | if you really need the debugging that is all i see the zend studio good for |
| 22:51.56 | bigdog_ut | the other stuff you can get from eclipse and variuos plugins |
| 22:52.43 | Utah_Dave | OK, I'll have to download eclipse again. I played around with it about a year ago. |
| 22:53.36 | bigdog_ut | hopefully i can get a eclipse uphpu version with all that one needs done this weekend |
| 22:53.46 | Utah_Dave | that would be great. |
| 22:53.49 | bigdog_ut | basically just taking out all the java ide plugins |
| 22:53.59 | Utah_Dave | let me know if you need a beta tester. :) |
| 22:54.15 | bigdog_ut | it will be fine |
| 22:54.20 | bigdog_ut | no need for testing |
| 22:55.59 | Utah_Dave | do you have any notes or slides from your presentation? |
| 22:56.12 | bigdog_ut | i will have some with the eclipse release |
| 22:56.28 | bigdog_ut | not all of them cause im going to turn it into a tutorial with various parts |
| 22:56.37 | bigdog_ut | like php + eclipse intro |
| 22:56.48 | bigdog_ut | php + eclipse adding yoru projects |
| 22:56.55 | bigdog_ut | php + eclipse adding ajax |
| 22:57.07 | bigdog_ut | php + eclipse ajax debuggin |
| 22:57.10 | bigdog_ut | etc... |
| 22:57.18 | bigdog_ut | but i want it too have tons of meat |
| 22:57.27 | bigdog_ut | wps |
| 22:57.38 | bigdog_ut | i think will should also make this stuff for members only |
| 22:57.38 | Utah_Dave | cool. sounds really good |
| 22:58.07 | bigdog_ut | cause the time i spend too put into it i want just the members to have access |
| 22:58.20 | bigdog_ut | i dont want other sites taking the content and placing it on there sites |
| 22:58.30 | bigdog_ut | i dont mind a rss feed about it |
| 22:58.56 | bigdog_ut | anyone know a firefox plug that takes screenshots of the browser only |
| 22:59.52 | bigdog_ut | fyi: killer plugin -> http://fasterfox.mozdev.org/ |
| 23:01.58 | mindjuju | the page load timer could be cool |
| 23:02.06 | bigdog_ut | it is |
| 23:02.22 | mindjuju | how did your presentation go on thursday? |
| 23:02.25 | bigdog_ut | i had to be careful cause i overloaded my router |
| 23:02.29 | bigdog_ut | sucked |
| 23:02.40 | bigdog_ut | forgot my laptop...remember all the books though |
| 23:02.47 | bigdog_ut | so everyone got like 2 books |
| 23:02.52 | bigdog_ut | free mind you |
| 23:02.55 | mindjuju | sorry to hear that. i couldn't go cause my mom was in town |
| 23:03.00 | mindjuju | yeah, it pains me to hear that |
| 23:03.00 | bigdog_ut | np |
| 23:03.07 | bigdog_ut | i had a book for you mindjuju |
| 23:03.09 | mindjuju | sounded like it was going to be good though |
| 23:03.10 | bigdog_ut | asp.net |
| 23:03.49 | mindjuju | is that even legal to say in this channel? |
| 23:03.59 | bigdog_ut | not really |
| 23:04.05 | bigdog_ut | no one took that book though |
| 23:04.17 | mindjuju | i'll take it if you still got it |
| 23:04.34 | mindjuju | and aren't using it for firewood |
| 23:05.00 | bigdog_ut | i still have it...i will keep it in the car for next month |
| 23:05.09 | bigdog_ut | or if you are in layton you can get it |
| 23:06.42 | mindjuju | actually, i'm rolling out a new server and retasking an old one so i prolly won't be needing it for a little while |
| 23:06.54 | bigdog_ut | k |
| 23:07.22 | mindjuju | have you used an HP dl360 before? |
| 23:07.39 | bigdog_ut | np |
| 23:07.42 | bigdog_ut | nope |
| 23:08.20 | mindjuju | hmmm... i just configed the RAID for it last night, i only have 2 SCSI drives in it and i have it configed to RAID 1+0 |
| 23:08.30 | mindjuju | thought RAID 1+) had to be 3 drives? |
| 23:08.51 | mindjuju | i'll have to see how HP defines its RAIDs |
| 23:29.20 | bigdog_ut | Utah_Dave, what os are you running |
| 23:29.43 | Utah_Dave | dual boot WinXP and Ubuntu |
| 23:29.50 | bigdog_ut | okay |
| 23:29.56 | bigdog_ut | what are you in now? |
| 23:30.02 | Utah_Dave | I'm in XP right now. |
| 23:30.08 | bigdog_ut | just crap |
| 23:30.31 | Utah_Dave | I know. |
| 23:30.45 | Utah_Dave | I can jump into Ubuntu if you want me to |
| 23:30.51 | bigdog_ut | nope |
| 23:31.01 | bigdog_ut | but i will do the linux eclipse one first |
| 23:31.17 | bigdog_ut | then i will try windows next and then do the mac one if we need it |
| 23:31.22 | Utah_Dave | cool |
| 23:31.24 | bigdog_ut | wps you want a mac one? |
| 23:31.27 | Utah_Dave | I'm looking forward to it |
| 23:31.39 | Utah_Dave | the linux one, and maybe the windows one |
| 23:36.44 | wps | yeah |
| 23:37.35 | bigdog_ut | k |
| 23:37.47 | bigdog_ut | i will need your help with that wps as i dont have a mac box |
| 23:37.59 | wps | oh? how'd you do it before? |
| 23:38.49 | bigdog_ut | im trying to remember |
| 23:38.58 | bigdog_ut | i might not...cause you dont want too help me |
| 23:39.29 | wps | ~melvin bigdog_ut |
| 23:39.30 | jbot | ACTION pulls bigdog_ut underwear up to the ceiling...and smiles |
| 23:39.37 | bigdog_ut | should i just add the php plugins or should i have the ruby and python ones too |
| 23:39.59 | wps | i'd say just php and then they can add the others if they want |
| 23:43.24 | Utah_Dave | does the php eclipse plugin code-complete for classes that are included from another file? |
| 23:43.48 | bigdog_ut | yep |
| 23:43.58 | Utah_Dave | nice. |
| 23:44.08 | bigdog_ut | you set up an include path for the project and it will do anything in that include path |
| 23:44.19 | bigdog_ut | and all your standard php functions |
| 23:44.42 | Utah_Dave | ok, I'll definitely have to give it a try again. |
| 23:44.47 | bigdog_ut | wps then i will just do that and add the subversion plugin too |
| 23:44.56 | wps | nice |
| 23:45.52 | Utah_Dave | gotta have the subversion plugin |
| 23:46.03 | Utah_Dave | well, I have to run. |
| 23:46.21 | Utah_Dave | bigdog_ut: are you going to post these to the uphpu site? |
| 23:46.38 | bigdog_ut | yes wps will |
| 23:46.52 | bigdog_ut | did we do that last time? wps |
| 23:47.07 | wps | yes |
| 23:47.24 | wps | http://uphpu.org/article.php?story=20050623220028938&query=eclipse |
| 23:48.28 | Utah_Dave | great |
| 23:49.01 | bigdog_ut | one thing to not is that you need java to run eclipse |
| 23:50.03 | Utah_Dave | got it |
| 23:50.14 | Utah_Dave | ok |
| 23:50.36 | Utah_Dave | later everyone |
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| 23:50.52 | wps | what's Utah_Dave's real name? |
| 23:51.13 | bigdog_ut | Dave Turnbull |
| 23:51.30 | wps | I thought Utah_Dave _wasn't_ Dave Turnbull |
| 23:51.40 | bigdog_ut | i thought he was |
| 23:52.06 | bigdog_ut | wps i got the linux one done |
| 23:52.13 | bigdog_ut | i will do mac next |
| 23:54.08 | bigdog_ut | wps, you ready for the linux one |
| 23:54.30 | wps | to put on the site? |
| 23:55.50 | wps | I am pretty sure that Utah_Dave is David Boucha |
