| 00:09.39 | macnewbold | if anyone knows of a place in Utah Valley that is looking for an experienced HTML/CSS/JS guy (he's learning PHP now too), let me know. I know a guy who is looking. |
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| 03:41.18 | diskotec|w | hey bigdog |
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| 03:53.45 | bigdog_ut | whatz up diskotec|w ? |
| 03:53.49 | bigdog_ut | how is work going? |
| 04:16.11 | diskotec|w | oh just working through some python |
| 04:17.37 | diskotec|w | I'm working through lists, dictionaries and tuples.... where do I find documentation on %s or %d or %f |
| 04:18.10 | diskotec|w | I keep seeing those used in examples and I either missed their descriptions or I'm supposed to know what they mean |
| 04:18.53 | diskotec|w | I've been back through the documentation but can't seem to find the description when to use one over the other |
| 04:21.34 | diskotec|w | ...I'm in chapt 3 of "Dive Into Python" |
| 04:21.43 | diskotec|w | I have a hunch %s is for strings |
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| 04:36.35 | diskotec|w | ah nm....found my the answer to my question... http://www.python.org/doc/current/lib/typesseq-strings.html |
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| 04:41.19 | bigdog_ut | yep that be the case |
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| 04:43.08 | mindjuju | bigdog_ut |
| 04:43.13 | mindjuju | have you used lgpl ? |
| 04:43.21 | bigdog_ut | the license? |
| 04:43.28 | mindjuju | yup |
| 04:43.43 | bigdog_ut | nope i have just really used gpl |
| 04:43.50 | bigdog_ut | and an apache license |
| 04:44.11 | mindjuju | if you use a piece of code that is marked lgpl, it seems to say that the source has to be freely available (reading the lgpl license agreement) |
| 04:44.28 | mindjuju | wasn't sure if it meant the source, ie the part that was lgpl or the new source using the lgpl source |
| 04:44.31 | mindjuju | does that make sense? |
| 04:44.49 | bigdog_ut | not really too me |
| 04:44.55 | bigdog_ut | im not a big license guru |
| 04:45.02 | bigdog_ut | i woudl have to read it |
| 04:45.37 | mindjuju | i'll spare you the torture and just feed it to our legal counsel and see what he says |
| 04:45.56 | mindjuju | here it is though, if you feel like inflicting pain on yourself |
| 04:45.57 | mindjuju | http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/lesser.html |
| 04:46.23 | bigdog_ut | not really |
| 04:46.42 | bigdog_ut | i have a lawyer neighbor that i forward that crap too |
| 04:46.56 | RyanE | mindjuju: so the app you're developing is closed-source? |
| 04:47.29 | mindjuju | no, i'm just poking around some software I have that has code in it |
| 04:47.58 | mindjuju | when i popped open the code, it had a commented field that mentioned the lgpl license |
| 04:48.03 | RyanE | the lgpl is mainly used to be able to use a library without revealing the source of what uses that library. |
| 04:51.07 | bigdog_ut | ~smoke it |
| 04:51.11 | jbot | ACTION smokes it |
| 04:52.12 | bigdog_ut | ~roll the lgpl and smoke it |
| 04:52.13 | jbot | ACTION stuffs the lgpl and smoke it in a hamster ball and rolls it down a steep, snow-covered mountain |
| 04:52.57 | mindjuju | never seen that jbot command, you make it? |
| 04:53.08 | bigdog_ut | nope |
| 04:53.42 | bigdog_ut | i just typed it and jbot created it |
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| 04:54.46 | mindjuju | have you ever looked at sqlite ? |
| 04:54.51 | mindjuju | it looks pretty cool |
| 04:55.03 | RyanE_ | freenode keeps lagging until irssi drops and reconnects. |
| 04:55.46 | bigdog_ut | RyanE_, use xchat |
| 04:55.50 | bigdog_ut | or bitchX |
| 04:55.59 | RyanE | do they not lag? |
| 04:56.07 | bigdog_ut | they are better |
| 04:56.10 | RyanE | I've never seen this as often as today with irssi / freenode |
| 04:57.16 | bigdog_ut | could be freenode to |
| 04:57.24 | bigdog_ut | but i have not had any issues |
| 05:02.58 | RyanE | well, if it continues to do this for a while, I may have to try something else, but irssi has worked well, and I hate to learn something new. :) |
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| 21:54.43 | wps | how do you make a group from the command line? |
| 21:55.26 | RyanE | a group of what? |
| 21:55.28 | _psychic_ | what OS? |
| 21:55.36 | wps | RH |
| 21:55.55 | RyanE | groupadd? addgroup? |
| 21:56.08 | RyanE | don't remember. |
| 21:56.16 | wps | hmm… neither of those work |
| 21:56.33 | RyanE | version? |
| 21:56.59 | RyanE | you're su? |
| 21:57.05 | RyanE | should be groupadd |
| 21:57.22 | wps | I have sudo |
| 21:57.27 | wps | says groupadd command not found |
| 21:57.48 | RyanE | and you can't edit the /etc/group file, or you need to do it in a script? |
| 21:58.33 | wps | if I manually edit that file, do I have to do any sort of a make afterwards? |
| 21:58.33 | RyanE | at least RH9, it should be groupadd http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-9-Manual/ref-guide/ch-users-groups.html |
| 21:58.42 | RyanE | I don't think so |
| 21:58.48 | RyanE | but that's why you'd use the tool. :) |
| 21:59.10 | RyanE | I don't think users are added to the group until they've logged in, though, but I could be wrong on that. |
| 21:59.24 | RyanE | I think if you add the group, specify that members are members, then the next time they login, they've got it. |
| 21:59.38 | RyanE | but unix user/group admin is not my strong point. |
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| 22:00.44 | wikiwolf | they're added to the group whenever. |
| 22:00.46 | wikiwolf | They don't need to login. |
| 22:00.49 | RyanE | cool |
| 22:00.51 | RyanE | thanks dw |
| 22:00.52 | wikiwolf | This isn't windows, we're talking about, after all. |
| 22:00.53 | wikiwolf | np |
| 22:01.01 | RyanE | valid point |
| 22:04.54 | RyanE | wikiwolf: why not dw today? |
| 22:05.18 | wikiwolf | *shrug* |
| 22:05.22 | wikiwolf | I've been staring at wikis all day |
| 22:05.24 | wikiwolf | it seemed fitting |
| 22:06.09 | RyanE | maybe I should be "reading others' buggy C-w0lf" today |
| 22:06.28 | RyanE | not that I'm bitter. :) |
| 22:06.38 | wikiwolf | I actually have alot of work to do. |
| 22:06.43 | wikiwolf | but it's Tuesday |
| 22:07.09 | RyanE | yep |
| 22:07.13 | wikiwolf | and I did alot of work this weekend. |
| 22:07.21 | RyanE | speaking of work, some crappy C code is calling my name... |
| 22:07.35 | wikiwolf | good luck |
| 22:07.37 | wikiwolf | :) |
| 22:12.14 | RyanE | hey, we can't all be python wizards. :) |
| 22:17.42 | wikiwolf | What is an unfortunate fact of life for 300, Alex? |
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