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00:25.50_psychic_macnewbold: you here?
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00:26.11macnewboldI'm here
00:26.12macnewboldsup?
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03:55.28bigdog_utevenin all?
04:19.17diskotec|whi
04:19.25bigdog_utwhatz up man
04:19.41diskotec|wtryin to teach myself python
04:20.15bigdog_utcool
04:20.40diskotec|wwhat are you up to?
04:21.09bigdog_utjust checking email and such...will be starting work on some xml stuff and then perhaps some rss stuff
04:21.22bigdog_uttrying to help some guy understand java
04:21.56diskotec|wI'm gonna have to learn that too...probably next year
04:22.58diskotec|wwell...start learning it next year...heh
04:23.13bigdog_utyeah...pyhton is good now
04:23.23diskotec|wstarting with python first because Zope/plone caught my interest
04:23.40bigdog_utit is nice
04:23.59bigdog_uti wish i had more python stuff too do...im getting into python and wxwindows though
04:25.33diskotec|wI was going to look into bricolage because our school is using it now but I haven't talked with anyone that could recommend it.  all kinds of good reviews on plone though
04:26.03diskotec|wwxwindows....I was thinking about that too.
04:26.55diskotec|wsticking with the basics for now
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04:29.09bigdog_utyeah get a good foundation and then move on
04:30.12diskotec|wbigdog: are you on the python mailing list?
04:30.19bigdog_utnope
04:30.24bigdog_utnot a big mailing list fan
04:30.33bigdog_utjust use it when i need it and search them alot
04:31.43diskotec|wThis link was posted on the python list...
04:31.44diskotec|whttp://oodt.jpl.nasa.gov/better-web-app.mov
04:31.50diskotec|whave you seen that?
04:32.14bigdog_utlet me check it out
04:32.51diskotec|walmost 400 meg
04:32.52diskotec|wheh
04:33.04bigdog_utoh...one sec
04:33.24bigdog_utlet me grab it and see
04:33.31bigdog_utit will take a few minutes
04:33.41diskotec|w30 minute....maybe 40 minute demonstration?  so you can let me know later what you think of it.
04:33.49bigdog_utwhat is it?
04:33.53bigdog_uti dont think i have seen it
04:34.40diskotec|wit's a guy using presentation software talking about and comparing j2ee, turbo gears, zope(plone) and ruby
04:34.53bigdog_utoh cool
04:34.54diskotec|woh and django
04:35.52diskotec|wso all you see is slides and hear him talking
04:37.41bigdog_utoh that is it
04:37.54bigdog_uthe sucks then
04:37.59bigdog_utif he cant do something cool
04:39.50diskotec|wheh.  I've read articles and such but watching that presentation made me want to learn python so that I could try and do something with zope/plone where i work.
04:41.05bigdog_utwhere you work at?
04:41.18diskotec|whospital in Alamosa, Colorado
04:41.29bigdog_utokay...i probably asked that a couple times
04:41.35diskotec|whehe...it's ok
05:40.51bigdog_utdiskotec|w, what do you do for them?
06:00.28diskotec|wbigdog: computer support, write reports, and was given permission to learn anything I wanted to make my manager's job easier (thinking about making a program for our front desk where patients check-in)
06:01.02bigdog_utthat would be cool
06:02.23diskotec|wsupposed to learn mssql as well so I can support it and maintain a few of our servers.
06:02.32bigdog_utouch that sucks
06:03.39diskotec|wthey want to try and make me a dba I guess but I want to try and create a full time development position
06:03.58bigdog_utyeah...dba stuff will be really good for ya
06:04.10bigdog_uthaving strong dba skills = $$$
06:04.32bigdog_utonly if you know what you are doing...i know so many developers that dont know sql that well
06:04.33diskotec|wthats what I kind of figure until I get the hang of a good language  =)
06:05.24bigdog_utyeah get good with python and databases...cute your teeth on mysql and then you can move to pgsql
06:05.34bigdog_utor mssql
06:05.36bigdog_utor oracle
06:11.46diskotec|wthe I.S. manager ordered this for me to view (it's been back ordered for awhile though...not sure when it'll be here).....
06:11.46diskotec|whttp://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0000CGDQT/qid=1141884595/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/103-3574132-2593452?s=dvd&v=glance&n=130
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06:19.18bigdog_utthat could be good
06:19.34bigdog_utthe best way is to get a copy of the db and start learning how to use it really
06:34.08diskotec|wI think I know how to maintain mssql to the extent that enterprise manager lets you. I want to learn more sql to get information you can't get using a mouse...at least with the basic tools ms provides.  when I'm not messing with that, I'm messing with mysql or python etc.
06:59.05diskotec|wgnight bigdog
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13:18.53Utah_Davewhat?
13:19.39Utah_Davewhy is everyone voting for Eclipse, etc on the poll on the website? aah.  Postgresql + stored procedures would be so much more fun!
13:20.06Utah_Daveeclipse is bloated, slow and written in java, ugh
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15:35.47bigdog_utUtah_Dave, obviously you have not used eclipse
15:36.03bigdog_utit is a very powerful ide
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16:27.00Utah_Davebigdog_ut: I have used it some. Maybe a good meeting would help me appreciate it
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17:32.20dataw0lfjsmith: might be too late, but I know mod_rewrite fairly well.
17:35.18jsmithdataw0lf: It was something super-simple, and I still couldn't get it to work, so I just hacked around it.
17:35.39jsmithdataw0lf: In short, I wanted to redirect any request to one domain to a specific page on another domain.
17:36.04jsmithShould be about the most simple recipe ever, so I was going nuts trying to get it to work...
17:41.19wpsis there a simple way to test if mod_rewrite is install on my system?
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17:43.00synicwps: what distro?
17:43.07wpsFC3
17:43.16synicrpm -qa | grep rewrite
17:43.44wpsreturned nothing
17:44.12wpsdoes that mean it isn't installed?
17:44.23synicnah... it's probably installed
17:44.28cycokilryeah..
17:44.30synicI think it comes with apache
17:44.34cycokilrsometimes it's just not enabled..
17:44.45cycokilrsuse 9.3 was like that..
17:45.45RyanEI think listed in phpinfo
17:48.15wpsah, good call, RyanE
17:48.21wpsit says that it's loaded
17:48.22wpsthanks
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22:53.10mindjujujsmith, you around?
22:53.19jsmithYup
22:53.21jsmithWhat's up?
22:53.35mindjujudo you have any experience / opinions about the dl560 ?
22:54.01mindjujustill haven't bought my server and found what looks like a good deal for one
22:54.04mindjuju5873982334 on eBay
22:55.53jsmithNever used a 560 before...
22:56.39mindjujuyeah, looks beefy.  i should price it against other 560s to see what the top should be
22:57.51jsmithIt's only got two of the four procs
22:57.59jsmithAnd as such, is probably a little overpriced

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