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| 19:05.28 | RyanE | A |
| 19:45.04 | jsmith | B |
| 19:47.25 | fungus | C |
| 19:47.41 | wps | Q! |
| 19:48.08 | jsmith | wps: You always have to be different, don't you... |
| 19:48.14 | wps | yup |
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| 19:48.42 | jsmith | Must be those artistic tendancies coming out again... |
| 19:49.47 | wps | yup |
| 19:50.07 | wps | @)>-----}------- |
| 19:51.38 | wps | I actually detest ascii art |
| 20:14.18 | wps | does ATAPI == IDE ? |
| 20:15.56 | _psychic_ | I think so.. |
| 20:15.58 | _psychic_ | "ATAPI provides the command set for controlling devices connected via an IDE interface." |
| 20:19.32 | wps | what's the difference between IDE Ultra ATA100 and IDE Ultra ATA133 ? |
| 20:20.14 | jsmith | wps: The theoretical speed at which the machine can pull data from the driv.e |
| 20:22.27 | wps | hard decisions! |
| 20:22.50 | wps | I want SATA + firewire 800 + USB 2, but it doesn't exist |
| 20:22.55 | wps | so I have to choose between |
| 20:23.02 | wps | IDE + FW 800 + USB 2 |
| 20:23.03 | wps | and |
| 20:23.12 | wps | SATA + FW 400 + USB 2 |
| 20:23.54 | wps | after paying all this dough for a sweet powermac with FW 800, I'd like an external that can utilize the speed… but I also like having the enclosure do SATA so that I can swap drives if I need to |
| 20:29.46 | jsmith | wps: That's a tough decision... but to be honest, FW800 is way faster than the drive will ever be :-) |
| 20:30.05 | wps | oh? |
| 20:30.20 | wps | the 7200 rpm drive won't even move that fast? |
| 20:32.28 | jsmith | Well, let's see... ATA 133 is what, 133mbits per second? |
| 20:32.45 | jsmith | And gee -- what's the transfer rate for firewire 800? |
| 20:33.09 | jsmith | Get the idea? |
| 20:33.33 | RyanE | And, even on SATA, the *drive*'s maximum sustained transfer rate is waaay lower... |
| 20:34.00 | jsmith | Yup... again, the 133 is a theoretical maximum... |
| 20:34.07 | wps | wait, if a drive can only do 133 Mbps, then FW 400 is even a lot |
| 20:34.15 | wps | when is FW 800 even going to be of any benefit then? |
| 20:34.16 | RyanE | about 57MB/s for a single, non-striped disk, IIRC |
| 20:34.24 | jsmith | Although, the NTQ stuff in SATA2 is actually noticably faster |
| 20:34.36 | jsmith | RyanE: That's Mb/s, right? |
| 20:34.37 | RyanE | yeah, but even getting it off the disk is a bottleneck, no? |
| 20:34.43 | jsmith | bits, not bytes... |
| 20:35.24 | RyanE | jsmith: don't really remember... I just know that actual sustained transfer rates are even lower than ATA100, IIRC. |
| 20:35.42 | jsmith | Depends on the controller. |
| 20:35.59 | wps | wait… perhaps I found one |
| 20:35.59 | wps | http://fwdepot.com/thestore/product_info.php/products_id/1328 |
| 20:37.00 | RyanE | The Barracuda 7200.8 doesn't support Serial ATA II transfer rates, but that shouldn't constrain the drive's performance. Even its 95MB/sec internal transfer rate is a long way from saturating Serial ATA's 150MB/sec pipe, and its average sustained transfer rate is even lower. Note that 7200.8's internal and sustained transfer rates are both higher than the 7200.7's. The new Barracuda's seek time is also half a millisecond faster, despite the fact that |
| 20:37.23 | RyanE | jsmith: I think it is MB/sec. |
| 20:37.43 | RyanE | and on that drive, the sustained transfer rate is 65MB/sec. |
| 21:30.45 | jsmith | I see. |
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| 22:51.54 | wps | trailer for Nacho Libré http://www.aintitcool.com/Nacho_large_vid.html |
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| 23:44.05 | mindjuju1 | dataw0lf, you around? |
| 23:48.08 | mindjuju1 | question to anybody, this is my first RHEL box, and i'm not sure if i'm understanding the finer points between the "Hostname" under the DNS tab on Network Configuration and the "Host Entry" under the Hosts tab on the same Network Configuration window |
| 23:48.54 | mindjuju1 | help on that screen doesn't really help, and i'm currently googling for more context to see what up |
| 23:48.55 | jsmith | The "hostname" is the name of your box. |
| 23:49.27 | jsmith | The "Host Entry" items are entries in /etc/hosts -- i.e. the hostname and IP address of other hosts (that don't resolve via DNS, for example) |
| 23:49.34 | mindjuju1 | k, that's what i thought, same as windows, but when i put what i want for host name, when i reboot the box, i get an error that gnome couldn't find it |
| 23:49.53 | jsmith | OK, that's because the name doesn't resolve in DNS. |
| 23:50.22 | jsmith | Add an entry under "Host Entry" with the 127.0.0.1 as the IP and the same name that you put in "hostname". |
| 23:50.36 | jsmith | Or, just open /etc/hosts and add the hostname to the line that begins 127.0.0.1 |
| 23:51.17 | mindjuju1 | k, cool, in windows i knew how to do it (add it to the host file in win/system32/etc/hosts) |
| 23:51.30 | mindjuju1 | so that last host tab, adding it there, is the same thing, right? |
| 23:52.30 | mindjuju1 | k, i'm rebooting to test this out, thanx jsmith |
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