| 00:01.28 | wps | dataw0lf: you have a minute? |
| 00:01.54 | wps | or anyone actually |
| 00:01.58 | wps | this is driving me crazy |
| 00:02.12 | wps | I posted to mailing lists about it a bit ago, but still have not found a solution |
| 00:02.20 | wps | I am getting erros in my maillog such as: |
| 00:03.00 | wps | Jan 30 16:52:32 pedro sendmail[4293]: k0UNqQO6004285: forward /home/username/.forward.pedro: Group writable directory |
| 00:03.03 | wps | Jan 30 16:52:32 pedro sendmail[4293]: k0UNqQO6004285: forward /home/username/.forward: Group writable directory |
| 00:03.11 | wps | …and I don't understand what is wrong or what I need to fix |
| 00:03.42 | wps | I have tried all sorts of permissions on the directory, but the error message persists |
| 00:03.57 | wps | the strange thing is that I only get it on two email accounts and non others (on the system) |
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| 02:27.52 | bigdog_ut | wps you have changed the perms for the group to r-x |
| 02:35.56 | wps | I don't understand that method |
| 02:36.04 | wps | how does that translate to the 7 system? |
| 02:36.12 | wps | I tried 755 and I think I might have fixed it |
| 02:39.05 | bigdog_ut | yes...you would need 750 or 755 for the it |
| 02:39.31 | wps | k, I will monitor it and see if I finally got it |
| 02:39.44 | wps | explain the r-x system |
| 02:40.03 | wps | just [user][group][world] ? |
| 02:40.24 | wps | r = read, w = write, x = execute |
| 02:40.39 | wps | and each including the previous in that order? |
| 02:41.15 | wps | so "xxx" would == 777 ? |
| 02:45.46 | bigdog_ut | rwxrwxrwx == 777 |
| 02:45.54 | bigdog_ut | rwxr-xr-x == 755 |
| 02:46.44 | wps | I understand that… as it is read in the terminal |
| 02:46.54 | wps | but you can't assign them at way, can you? |
| 02:46.59 | bigdog_ut | yep |
| 02:47.01 | bigdog_ut | man chmod |
| 02:47.07 | bigdog_ut | and you will see all the cool stuff |
| 02:47.15 | bigdog_ut | and then you can learn about stick bits |
| 02:47.24 | wps | this: chmod rwxr-xr-x |
| 02:47.26 | wps | ? |
| 02:48.29 | bigdog_ut | chmod g= <filename> |
| 02:48.44 | bigdog_ut | chmod og=rw <file> |
| 02:49.09 | bigdog_ut | rw-rw-rw where only the other and group change |
| 02:49.13 | bigdog_ut | the user stays the same |
| 02:50.13 | bigdog_ut | wps, http://catcode.com/teachmod/chmod_cmd2.html |
| 02:50.49 | wps | interesting |
| 02:50.50 | wps | thanks |
| 02:50.53 | wps | makes much more sense now |
| 02:50.58 | wps | didn't know there were so many options |
| 02:51.11 | bigdog_ut | yes |
| 02:51.22 | bigdog_ut | did you read my article on the commands? |
| 02:53.52 | wps | yup |
| 02:54.01 | wps | haven't had a chance to man each command yet though |
| 02:54.29 | bigdog_ut | yeah there are alot of good ones out there |
| 03:14.49 | wps | mmm… hamburgers on the grill |
| 06:00.18 | wps | ha ha ha |
| 06:00.35 | wps | bigdog_ut: I was just reading your email about "…some things that I have noticed about ads for php positions…" |
| 06:00.48 | wps | and I thought that you were referring to UPHPU volunteer positions |
| 06:00.52 | wps | I was about to be offended! |
| 06:00.53 | wps | :) |
| 06:00.54 | wps | ha ha ha |
| 06:01.01 | bigdog_ut | lol |
| 06:01.25 | bigdog_ut | no i just dont respond |
| 06:01.41 | bigdog_ut | i wrote a huge email...then cut it...cause i was rantin hardcore |
| 06:02.29 | bigdog_ut | i was going to tell about a recent interview for a position off the list for the sys admin |
| 06:07.35 | wps | man, my connection is sucking it up tonight |
| 06:07.38 | wps | I feel like I'm on dialup |
| 06:09.21 | bigdog_ut | lol |
| 06:09.25 | bigdog_ut | did you hear me man? |
| 06:09.37 | bigdog_ut | quit complainin about your connection |
| 06:10.03 | wps | :( |
| 06:10.42 | wps | man, mailman has me so frustrated |
| 06:10.46 | wps | I know that it's working |
| 06:10.46 | bigdog_ut | lol |
| 06:10.52 | wps | I even created a new list to test and it works |
| 06:10.59 | wps | but uphpu-jobs-announce is just dead |
| 06:11.03 | wps | the little piece of crap |
| 06:12.51 | bigdog_ut | lol |
| 06:12.58 | bigdog_ut | breath...no repeat after me |
| 06:13.09 | bigdog_ut | bigdog_ut, is the greatest developer...okay now you |
| 06:13.33 | wps | bigdog_ut is the greatest developer |
| 06:13.52 | bigdog_ut | good...now you are almost there...think what would the bigdog_ut do? |
| 06:13.59 | wps | go get a soda |
| 06:14.12 | bigdog_ut | okay...nice...i would |
| 06:14.26 | bigdog_ut | then listen to what he is sayin in irc |
| 06:14.49 | wps | my wive looks so funny right now |
| 06:15.05 | wps | she is on the couch on her back… asleep… with her fee up in the air |
| 06:15.07 | bigdog_ut | okay...you are deviating |
| 06:17.21 | wps | I got the permission thing figured out |
| 06:17.24 | wps | this is a different problem |
| 06:17.43 | bigdog_ut | what is the problem? |
| 06:17.43 | wps | thud… thud… thud |
| 06:18.00 | wps | it's weird |
| 06:18.17 | wps | the list was working fine… I logged into the admin interface… turned on archiving… and then it died |
| 06:18.47 | wps | the list stopped working (processing mail) |
| 06:18.58 | wps | I tinkered around and it appears that the .mbox file dissappeared |
| 06:19.02 | wps | ! |
| 06:19.18 | wps | so, I copied one of the other lists .mbox over, truncated it to zero, and renamed it |
| 06:19.23 | wps | but still nothing |
| 06:19.33 | bigdog_ut | did you turn off archive? |
| 06:19.37 | wps | yup |
| 06:19.40 | wps | still noda |
| 06:19.52 | bigdog_ut | try removing the list...and then recreating it |
| 06:20.06 | wps | yes, but then everyone will be mad at me because then will have to resubscribe |
| 06:20.10 | wps | :) |
| 06:20.19 | bigdog_ut | i imed nate and he did not reply...probably hates the bigdog_ut |
| 06:20.27 | bigdog_ut | oh |
| 06:20.38 | bigdog_ut | do you have a backup .mbox for the list? |
| 06:20.41 | wps | nate just knows that he's in the dog house because his friend roberto is a dork |
| 06:20.47 | wps | nope |
| 06:21.01 | bigdog_ut | roberto...me like that...hola roberto...que pasa |
| 06:21.01 | wps | I have RAID… does that count? :) |
| 06:21.17 | bigdog_ut | you need a back up of the file before you packed it up |
| 06:21.56 | *** kick/#uphpu [mindjuju!n=bigdog_u@207.135.132.13] by bigdog_ut (bigdog_ut) |
| 06:22.02 | bigdog_ut | lol |
| 06:22.03 | wps | ha ha ha ha ha ha |
| 06:22.04 | bigdog_ut | i still love that |
| 06:22.14 | bigdog_ut | bye mac |
| 06:22.15 | wps | I love it how my app makes an explosion sound |
| 06:22.19 | *** kick/#uphpu [macnewbold!n=bigdog_u@207.135.132.13] by bigdog_ut (bigdog_ut) |
| 06:22.25 | bigdog_ut | lol |
| 06:22.35 | *** topic/#uphpu by wps -> BOOM! |
| 06:22.41 | bigdog_ut | lol |
| 06:22.48 | wps | I haven't had this good of a laugh in IRC in a long while |
| 06:22.59 | bigdog_ut | yeah...cause im not here |
| 06:23.08 | bigdog_ut | we can laught at the job announcements |
| 06:23.29 | bigdog_ut | yes we need a php developer for high performance system analysis and integration |
| 06:23.31 | wps | mailman has an export users an db script, but there is no import script |
| 06:23.33 | wps | retarded app |
| 06:23.44 | bigdog_ut | skills incluce kernel hacking, network terminology |
| 06:23.59 | wps | "network terminology" <-- ha ha ha |
| 06:24.00 | bigdog_ut | wps, you dont have a backup of the file |
| 06:24.11 | wps | no, but I shouldn't need one |
| 06:24.31 | bigdog_ut | raid is only good when a disk goes down |
| 06:24.32 | bigdog_ut | lol |
| 06:24.36 | wps | right |
| 06:24.39 | wps | we weren't keeping archives before, so the .mbox should have been empty |
| 06:24.53 | wps | so it shouldn't make any difference |
| 06:24.54 | bigdog_ut | job desc cont. --> space shuttle propultion systems |
| 06:25.05 | bigdog_ut | but the .mbox is messed up |
| 06:25.16 | wps | but isn't an mbox just a flat file? |
| 06:25.39 | wps | you need to write up a really _good_ job description and post it to the list |
| 06:25.43 | wps | seriously |
| 06:25.48 | wps | well… once I get it fixed |
| 06:25.52 | wps | :) |
| 06:25.57 | bigdog_ut | job desc --> plate techtonics and underwater earthquake knowledge |
| 06:26.07 | wps | rwl |
| 06:26.15 | bigdog_ut | it is kinda |
| 06:26.31 | bigdog_ut | not sure what you have done to mess it up |
| 06:26.36 | wps | and the applicant must be a registered AFLAC rep |
| 06:26.42 | bigdog_ut | the perms and owner is correct on the files |
| 06:26.50 | wps | I checked that |
| 06:26.53 | wps | it's the same as the others |
| 06:27.31 | bigdog_ut | job desc --> excellent understanding of bird migration and storm patterns |
| 06:27.53 | bigdog_ut | with an empasize on solar dial reading |
| 06:28.12 | wps | 20+ years experience |
| 06:28.24 | bigdog_ut | must be able to rebuild a jeep and iron shirts |
| 06:28.42 | bigdog_ut | good humor and be able to work 75 hrs per week |
| 06:28.46 | *** topic/#uphpu by wps -> Stand up with bigdot_ut! |
| 06:29.05 | *** topic/#uphpu by bigdog_ut -> Stand up with bigdog_ut! |
| 06:29.05 | wps | must be able to lift 245 pounds over his head |
| 06:29.28 | bigdog_ut | and know the chemical difference between coke and pepsi |
| 06:29.45 | wps | did you just change the topic to the same thing it already was? |
| 06:29.53 | wps | oh… I see |
| 06:29.57 | wps | dot to dog |
| 06:30.03 | bigdog_ut | database skills include none of the following: relation mappings, abstract theory |
| 06:30.18 | wps | you have to have something in there about AJAX |
| 06:30.20 | bigdog_ut | referential integrity |
| 06:30.32 | wps | bob knows all about ajax |
| 06:30.56 | bigdog_ut | btree indexing, query optimizing, and merge command |
| 06:30.57 | wps | how he… eh… a… jax you around |
| 06:31.21 | wps | cat /dev/null > roberto |
| 06:31.22 | bigdog_ut | javascript guru as in java guru...cause really java and javascript are the same |
| 06:31.37 | bigdog_ut | select * from clue where userid = roberto |
| 06:31.41 | bigdog_ut | --> 0 results |
| 06:31.46 | wps | ha ha ha |
| 06:32.12 | wps | jbot, bring out some drinks! |
| 06:32.14 | bigdog_ut | job desc cont. --> understanding that xml is nothing more than glorified html |
| 06:32.44 | bigdog_ut | familiar with head cleaning utilizing ajax technology |
| 06:33.00 | wps | ~ajax |
| 06:33.01 | jbot | it has been said that ajax is Asynchronous JavaScript + XML |
| 06:33.02 | bigdog_ut | must be bald and willing to be called "Mr. Clean" at all times |
| 06:33.14 | wps | ~mr. clean |
| 06:33.25 | bigdog_ut | enjoy being yelled at! |
| 06:33.32 | wps | jbot! |
| 06:33.50 | bigdog_ut | you get all this for the great salary of $6.45/hr |
| 06:34.09 | wps | and that's an entire dollar more than minimum |
| 06:34.17 | bigdog_ut | around there |
| 06:34.41 | bigdog_ut | benefits after the first 6 months |
| 06:35.01 | wps | it was after the first 12 at that company that shall not be mentioned!! |
| 06:35.09 | bigdog_ut | lol |
| 06:35.14 | bigdog_ut | that is even worse |
| 06:36.05 | bigdog_ut | i will write up a job description |
| 06:36.18 | wps | please, please do |
| 06:36.38 | bigdog_ut | i will do it using real ones |
| 06:36.45 | bigdog_ut | mix them up |
| 06:36.49 | wps | combine them all |
| 06:36.52 | wps | the best of each |
| 06:36.57 | bigdog_ut | add some bigdog touch |
| 06:50.05 | bigdog_ut | wps, you added me to a new list? |
| 06:50.29 | wps | no one was supposed to know :( |
| 06:50.37 | wps | I forgot to uncheck "send notice to user" |
| 06:50.39 | bigdog_ut | lol |
| 06:50.42 | wps | it'd deleted now |
| 06:50.44 | wps | it's |
| 06:50.48 | bigdog_ut | lol |
| 06:51.42 | bigdog_ut | wps, we need ot work on a project man...im bored |
| 06:52.54 | wps | I think that this real estate thing will fly |
| 06:54.07 | bigdog_ut | im hoping |
| 06:55.32 | wps | almost have this fixed |
| 06:56.24 | bigdog_ut | cool |
| 07:01.13 | bigdog_ut | lol so you created a new one |
| 07:01.31 | wps | UPHPU-jobs-announce was too long anyway :) |
| 07:02.38 | bigdog_ut | lol |
| 07:14.32 | wps | done |
| 07:14.47 | wps | time to sleep |
| 07:14.53 | *** topic/#uphpu by wps -> Zzzzzzz… |
| 07:14.59 | bigdog_ut | lol |
| 07:15.08 | bigdog_ut | now that you have jacked it all up |
| 07:15.10 | bigdog_ut | again! |
| 07:15.16 | wps | what? |
| 07:15.36 | wps | you better just be messing with me |
| 07:15.51 | bigdog_ut | as always |
| 07:16.21 | wps | alright |
| 07:16.22 | wps | i'm out |
| 07:16.29 | wps | goodnight all |
| 07:18.19 | bigdog_ut | night |
| 07:18.20 | bigdog_ut | slacker |
| 07:18.29 | wps | WAIT!!! |
| 07:18.34 | wps | I'll show you… |
| 07:18.37 | wps | I'll install a bb |
| 07:18.45 | bigdog_ut | what crap |
| 07:18.53 | bigdog_ut | just join the list and quit complainin |
| 07:19.03 | wps | I think bb's are stupid |
| 07:20.07 | bigdog_ut | yeah...so we dont need one |
| 07:20.15 | bigdog_ut | well it could draw more to the site |
| 07:36.48 | tierra | psh, thanks for making me update my mail filters... |
| 07:38.04 | wps | I thought you were bored |
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| 16:10.19 | dataw0lf | dang, mail filter update. |
| 16:10.49 | dataw0lf | heh. 'replacing the list with forums' |
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| 16:32.37 | wps | replacing will _never_ happy as long as I'm alive :) |
| 16:32.44 | wps | in addition to, perhaps, but not replace |
| 16:32.50 | wps | sorry to make everyone update their filters |
| 16:34.06 | jsmith | Hey, just as long as it's not forums, I'm ok :-) |
| 16:34.28 | wps | you not a forum fan either, jsmith ? |
| 16:34.32 | dataw0lf | yea, I'll update filters all day |
| 16:34.39 | dataw0lf | let's just stick to a mailing list :) |
| 16:34.42 | wps | I hate forums |
| 16:34.51 | dataw0lf | attracts the wrong crowd |
| 16:34.59 | wps | yeah |
| 16:35.03 | jsmith | I've wasted too many hours of my life on forums. |
| 16:35.05 | dataw0lf | Now, adding forums, where you could dump the actual mailing list *shrug* |
| 16:35.14 | jsmith | And I hate them with a perfect purple passion. |
| 16:35.14 | wps | and I just don't understand why the approach is appealing |
| 16:35.19 | dataw0lf | jsmith: I hear yah! |
| 16:35.24 | wps | the feed approach is so much better |
| 16:35.37 | wps | why have to go to eighteen different sites to get your news/info/coversations |
| 16:35.41 | wps | I like the morning paper approach |
| 16:35.44 | dataw0lf | yea |
| 16:35.44 | jsmith | It's because forum people don't care about "content", they care about having their cute little avatar posted next to their nonsense... |
| 16:35.47 | wps | I want it delivered to my front door |
| 16:35.57 | wps | oh, gag… the avator is the worst part |
| 16:36.01 | dataw0lf | jsmith: and the omnipotent post count |
| 16:36.06 | dataw0lf | jsmith: don't forget that |
| 16:36.09 | _psychic_ | lol |
| 16:36.31 | dataw0lf | when I was helping run the official Ubuntu forums, I actually was told that I should look into posting more |
| 16:36.37 | dataw0lf | I won't repeat what I replied with |
| 16:36.54 | dataw0lf | but when people put more weight on bulk rather than quality, I'm outta there |
| 16:37.03 | wps | the difference between mailing lists and forums is like the difference between RSS and going to each news website individually to read the morning news |
| 16:37.32 | dataw0lf | the difference between mailing lists and forums is like the difference between the Salt Lake Tribune and the Onion |
| 16:37.43 | wps | ha ha |
| 16:38.04 | dataw0lf | I mean, you go to the latter for a laugh every now and then, but that's it. |
| 16:38.12 | dataw0lf | you certainly don't take it SERIOUSLY. |
| 16:38.13 | dataw0lf | :) |
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| 16:50.45 | macnewbold | ~bigdog_ut |
| 16:50.46 | jbot | it has been said that bigdog_ut is Mullet Man, a.k.a. El Perro Loco, or "the gimp", or known as the schwagmeister, or a big meany, or laden, or full of Schmack at times, or the nagios king, or a resident loser, or a mind reader |
| 16:51.00 | macnewbold | ~bigdog_ut is also a retard at times |
| 16:51.01 | jbot | macnewbold: okay |
| 16:51.17 | _psychic_ | haha |
| 16:51.34 | _psychic_ | logged in just to make an update? |
| 16:52.26 | macnewbold | bigdog kicked me last night at about 11:30pm |
| 16:52.29 | macnewbold | while I wasn't around |
| 16:52.42 | macnewbold | just to hear the cool "explosion sound" that his client makes when he kicks someone |
| 16:58.48 | dataw0lf | hehe |
| 16:58.56 | dataw0lf | he is definitely a retard at times |
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| 20:24.52 | _psychic_ | anyone remember which php function execs an external system command and returns the result? |
| 20:25.22 | jsmith | exec |
| 20:25.25 | jsmith | shell_exec |
| 20:25.32 | RyanE_ | system? |
| 20:25.35 | jsmith | or, the infamous backticks |
| 20:25.42 | jsmith | Yeah, I think system does too. |
| 20:25.44 | RyanE_ | you did say 'remembers', not 'can look up on php.net' |
| 20:26.11 | _psychic_ | backticks don't seem to do it |
| 20:26.32 | _psychic_ | I'm trying to have it tar and gzip something... but I don't get anything back, and the tar.gz isn't there.. :/ |
| 20:27.43 | jsmith | exec let's you get the return values, as well as the output. |
| 20:29.09 | _psychic_ | the output arrays are empty... :/ |
| 20:29.29 | jsmith | Mind pasting your code on uphpu.pastebin.com so we can take a look? |
| 20:30.22 | RyanE_ | I think system exec-type commands can also be turned off by the administrator, if PHP is running in 'safe mode'. |
| 20:30.25 | _psychic_ | http://uphpu.pastebin.com/532687 |
| 20:30.30 | RyanE_ | you should be able to check that on phpinfo() |
| 20:30.33 | _psychic_ | I'm the administrator. |
| 20:30.38 | RyanE_ | well, there you go. :) |
| 20:30.41 | _psychic_ | We're not in safe mode. |
| 20:30.56 | RyanE_ | permissions to run the tar are correct for that user? |
| 20:31.04 | RyanE_ | have you tried putting full path to tar / gz? |
| 20:31.10 | _psychic_ | good idea |
| 20:31.19 | RyanE_ | I don't know if path is set for running under apache. |
| 20:31.53 | RyanE_ | I would also try running something simpler first, see if you can make that work, then move on to tar / gz... Just to ensure that your exec call is correct and returning values. |
| 20:31.55 | _psychic_ | hm |
| 20:32.38 | jsmith | exec('pwd',$output); |
| 20:32.44 | _psychic_ | exec('echo foo', $output1); seems to work |
| 20:32.45 | jsmith | That's usually a good first step :-) |
| 20:33.29 | _psychic_ | whereis tar works... |
| 20:34.14 | _psychic_ | but running tar doesn't :/ |
| 20:34.53 | jsmith | What about putting in the whole path to tar? |
| 20:35.03 | _psychic_ | I tried that |
| 20:35.12 | _psychic_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:35.15 | _psychic_ | nothing comes back |
| 20:35.17 | jsmith | As in "/usr/bin/tar -zcvf backup.tar /tmp/files/" |
| 20:35.21 | _psychic_ | yep |
| 20:35.24 | _psychic_ | no dice |
| 20:35.26 | _psychic_ | hm |
| 20:37.03 | dataw0lf | what type of environment does exec() run in? |
| 20:37.16 | dataw0lf | and try /bin/tar |
| 20:37.50 | dataw0lf | I've never seen tar in /usr/bin |
| 20:38.05 | _psychic_ | ah then you've never used a mac ;) |
| 20:38.14 | dataw0lf | that's correct. |
| 20:38.16 | dataw0lf | thank god |
| 20:38.22 | _psychic_ | oddly enough, adding the -zv did it... ? |
| 20:38.35 | _psychic_ | he probably doesn't care dataw0lf |
| 20:38.42 | _psychic_ | though my guess is that he uses one |
| 20:38.46 | _psychic_ | ;) |
| 20:38.57 | dataw0lf | God? use a Mac? |
| 20:39.01 | dataw0lf | I guess he has the money to buy one. |
| 20:39.33 | jsmith | _psychic_: Well, the -z make it so that it tells you the names of the files being tarred, and the -z, well -- I'll let you figure that one out on your own :-) |
| 20:39.56 | dataw0lf | s/-z/-v |
| 20:41.30 | _psychic_ | thanks for the help. that was odd. |
| 20:42.47 | jsmith | dataw0lf: Yeah, I can't type after eating too much lunch... thanks for catching that. |
| 20:43.19 | dataw0lf | aye, I thought your hands might've been shaking after finding out you were helping a Mac user. |
| 20:43.42 | jsmith | Naw, to each his own... different strokes for different folks, you know? |
| 20:43.43 | *** topic/#uphpu by wps -> bigdot_ut on stage tonight… 23:30 |
| 20:43.54 | jsmith | How boring would it be if everyone was just like me :-) |
| 20:44.06 | wps | you guys missed out last night |
| 20:44.11 | wps | bigdog_ut was on one |
| 20:44.19 | wps | I about cried I was laughing so much |
| 20:45.07 | dataw0lf | jsmith: true. not everybody can be right like us. |
| 20:45.14 | dataw0lf | wps: oh? darn, I missed it. |
| 20:45.25 | jsmith | dataw0lf: Speak for yourself... I don't even claim to be right! |
| 20:45.34 | dataw0lf | jsmith: about Macs?? |
| 20:45.39 | dataw0lf | c'mon now |
| 20:45.43 | jsmith | dataw0lf: About anything :-) |
| 20:45.48 | dataw0lf | jsmith: You're too humble. |
| 20:45.54 | wps | he was making fun of job postings |
| 20:46.12 | dataw0lf | I might not be right about EVARYTHING (I guess it could be disputed), however, about Macs, yes, yes I am. |
| 20:46.13 | dataw0lf | ;) |
| 20:46.33 | dataw0lf | wps: I'll have to read my logs |
| 20:52.37 | dataw0lf | I'm so tired of development in anything other than Python. |
| 20:52.39 | dataw0lf | :\ |
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