| 00:14.23 | mindjuju | hey macnewbold |
| 00:16.28 | mindjuju | hey mac mentioned something once about being able to put in whole blocks of html inside of php code |
| 00:16.33 | mindjuju | can't remember what you had to do to do it |
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| 01:33.25 | bigdog_ut | too bad thursday nights are for survivor |
| 01:36.15 | mindjuju | yo |
| 01:36.32 | bigdog_ut | evenin |
| 01:36.39 | mindjuju | did you get that CERT email on the Oracle patches? |
| 01:37.20 | mindjuju | HTML version of email here |
| 01:37.21 | mindjuju | http://www.us-cert.gov/cas/techalerts/TA05-292A.html |
| 01:37.31 | mindjuju | several instances of their database |
| 01:37.41 | mindjuju | 8, 8i,9i, etc |
| 01:37.50 | bigdog_ut | yeah...already done |
| 01:38.12 | mindjuju | figured you were on top of everything, but thought i'd say soemthing just in case |
| 01:38.31 | bigdog_ut | thanks...yeah i get them cause of my metalink account |
| 01:40.18 | mindjuju | k, so got time for a quick question? |
| 01:41.22 | bigdog_ut | y |
| 01:42.10 | mindjuju | i've got a query with some subquries. now, i've got to do some math on the results of the subquires. where i subtract the result of one subquery with the result of another subquery |
| 01:42.26 | mindjuju | is this possible? |
| 01:42.44 | bigdog_ut | example please? |
| 01:43.26 | mindjuju | k, let me sanitize super quick |
| 01:44.23 | mindjuju | actually, go do what ever you were going to do, i think i found my answer |
| 01:44.40 | bigdog_ut | k |
| 01:45.01 | bigdog_ut | im just setting up my eclipse with a few new projects |
| 01:58.20 | bigdog_ut | ~hail the bigdog_ut |
| 01:58.22 | jbot | ACTION bows down to the bigdog_ut and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" |
| 02:00.19 | mindjuju | k, i was wrong |
| 02:00.24 | mindjuju | here is a sample sql statement |
| 02:00.25 | mindjuju | SELECT userID, |
| 02:00.25 | mindjuju | (SELECT fee |
| 02:00.25 | mindjuju | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:00.26 | mindjuju | (SELECT fee |
| 02:00.26 | mindjuju | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:00.27 | mindjuju | (Select shippping_fee + handling_fee) AS total_fee |
| 02:00.29 | mindjuju | From purchases |
| 02:01.24 | mindjuju | where I want to add a fee from the shipping table with a fee from handling creating a 4th colunn called total_fee with shipping and handling listed per record of UserID |
| 02:02.27 | mindjuju | on my statement i get back the answer thta it doesn't know what shipping_fee is or handling_fee |
| 02:05.59 | bigdog_ut | one sec |
| 02:09.04 | bigdog_ut | do shipping_fee + handling_fee as total_fee |
| 02:10.38 | bigdog_ut | ill be back in a fee |
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| 03:49.36 | Utah_Dave | yessss! My broadband is working at home now! |
| 03:50.56 | RyanE | Utah_Dave: Why was it not working previously? |
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| 05:49.55 | bigdog_ut | mindjuju, you still awake? |
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| 13:46.58 | mindjuju | you still there bigdog? |
| 13:50.20 | mindjuju | wow, looks like huricane wilma is delibrately going after mexico and miami |
| 13:50.41 | mindjuju | after running on shore on the yucatan, it's pratically taking a 90 degree turn to florida |
| 13:50.42 | mindjuju | http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at4%2Bshtml/145344.shtml?3day?large |
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| 14:53.43 | macnewbold | mindjuju: the way to do blocks of html code in your php is with a here-doc, like this |
| 14:53.46 | macnewbold | echo <<<END |
| 14:53.49 | macnewbold | foo |
| 14:53.50 | macnewbold | bar |
| 14:53.51 | macnewbold | baz |
| 14:53.53 | macnewbold | END; |
| 14:54.13 | mindjuju | oh yeah! heredoc |
| 14:54.22 | mindjuju | i was lazy and did the |
| 14:54.34 | mindjuju | <?php do { ?> |
| 14:54.47 | mindjuju | <p>cool</p> |
| 14:54.56 | mindjuju | <?php } ?> |
| 14:55.15 | mindjuju | i'll go back though and put in heredoc |
| 14:55.18 | macnewbold | yeah, that works too. You can do it without the do { } too, it makes no difference |
| 14:55.35 | macnewbold | the thing I like about heredocs over going in and out of php mode |
| 14:55.49 | macnewbold | is that in a heredoc, you can embed $variables and they'll get filled in properly |
| 14:56.07 | macnewbold | without having <?=$variables?> everywhere, or even worse, <?php echo $variables; ?> |
| 14:56.12 | mindjuju | i remembered you saying that, plus i think that is prolly the better way of doing it |
| 14:57.04 | macnewbold | others will tell you that they prefer to go out of php mode, but I'm not too keen on it. I like having <?php at the top, and ?> at the bottom of the script, and nowhere else. |
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| 16:00.32 | mindjuju | anybody around? |
| 16:03.18 | fungus | partially |
| 16:03.42 | wps | nope, I exercise |
| 16:03.51 | mindjuju | :( |
| 16:04.00 | mindjuju | if i have a sql query |
| 16:04.22 | mindjuju | where i'm doing some division and there is the possiblity of 0/3 |
| 16:04.52 | mindjuju | how do i fix that? |
| 16:05.06 | wps | what is wrong? |
| 16:05.37 | mindjuju | it's either 0/3 or 3/0 which ever one is the impossible one, i'm getting that one |
| 16:05.44 | mindjuju | and it stops my query saying division error |
| 16:06.14 | fungus | what db? I just tested on mysql 4.0 and it just returns NULL |
| 16:06.39 | mindjuju | ms sql 2k |
| 16:06.48 | fungus | eek, |
| 16:06.56 | fungus | run-away, run-away |
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| 17:12.27 | mindjuju | quick question on networking. a packet contains data, the protocol handles how the packet is sent, or in other words, a packet of http data would be similar to a packet of ftp data, but they are handled differently by the protocol, right? |
| 17:15.25 | jsmith | mindjuju: Similar in what ways? |
| 17:15.43 | jsmith | mindjuju: The data all depends on the protocol :-) |
| 17:16.12 | mindjuju | similar in the amount of data they can carry |
| 17:17.01 | jsmith | Sure... that's all set at the TCP layer. |
| 17:17.12 | jsmith | (or UDP, or whatever) |
| 17:17.53 | mindjuju | so when they say that FTP is great at transfering files, while the data packet is the same, the protocol efficently transfers better |
| 17:47.39 | fungus | If you are comparing efficiency of FTP and HTTP for file transfers, HTTP has less overhead at the beginning, but FTP is better designed for file transfers. |
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| 17:59.06 | fungus | heh mindjuju has the Admin power now. |
| 17:59.29 | mindjuju | admin power? |
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| 18:00.26 | mindjuju | oh, i switched clients, was using trillian jumped over to GAIM because i wanted to see the IRC list |
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| 19:11.21 | beandog | who is presenting tonight? |
| 19:11.48 | beandog | doh |
| 19:11.50 | beandog | its on the website. |
| 19:27.09 | macnewbold | Alvaro Carrasco |
| 19:27.09 | macnewbold | presenting on AJAX |
| 19:27.09 | macnewbold | should be very good |
| 19:27.09 | macnewbold | but I'll warn y'all: he's really big on OOP |
| 19:27.12 | wps | you know him, macnewbold? |
| 19:27.18 | wps | bigdog_ut, you have any loot for us? |
| 19:30.02 | fungus | There has been some ... interesting ... discussions about OOP vs. Procedural in the phlyte meetings. :) |
| 19:30.21 | Utah_Dave | yup |
| 19:30.34 | Utah_Dave | are those discussions still going on? |
| 19:30.44 | Utah_Dave | I thought we'd already voted on that |
| 19:32.29 | fungus | I think so. |
| 19:32.31 | beandog | OOP++ |
| 19:33.06 | fungus | Procedural++; OOP++ |
| 19:33.13 | beandog | yahp |
| 19:33.16 | beandog | that too |
| 19:33.17 | beandog | :) |
| 19:35.32 | Utah_Dave | jsmith: have you any experience with Astbill? |
| 19:40.14 | macnewbold | ~astbill |
| 19:40.43 | macnewbold | wps: yeah, I know Alvaro - he came to 2-3 of our Phlyte meetings. The first one was just an hour or two after he got a bunch of wisdom teeth pulled. |
| 19:40.53 | macnewbold | it was pretty sad, seeing him all puffed up |
| 19:41.00 | macnewbold | but he was feeling no pain at the time |
| 19:41.08 | wps | everyone, please drive safely to the meeting |
| 19:41.11 | wps | :) |
| 19:41.15 | macnewbold | yeah, you too :) |
| 19:41.22 | macnewbold | fungus: wanna car pool again? |
| 19:41.43 | macnewbold | (BTW, anyone else in SLC who wants to, there's room for 1-2 more in my car) |
| 19:45.20 | jsmith | Utah_Dave: Nope... |
| 19:45.27 | jsmith | Utah_Dave: Haven't had the need. |
| 19:47.18 | fungus | macnewbold, sure. :) |
| 19:47.28 | macnewbold | cool |
| 19:47.34 | macnewbold | I'll see you at the usual time then |
| 19:47.48 | Utah_Dave | I just ran into astbill while searching for asterisk info last night and found it interesting |
| 19:48.44 | jsmith | Yeah, I know sinapps.com/news.php had something on it... but I haven't looked at it. |
| 21:39.51 | mindjuju | elderly hit and run? what's going on in the world??? |
| 21:39.52 | mindjuju | http://www.tampabays10.com/thismorning/thismorning_article.aspx?storyid=20176 |
| 22:04.11 | beandog | is there gonna be doughnuts? |
| 22:04.14 | beandog | should I bring halloween candy? |
| 22:04.26 | beandog | mmmmmmm candy |
| 22:06.34 | Utah_Dave | mindjuju: I just read that article. crazy! |
| 22:07.02 | macnewbold | candy is good |
| 22:07.11 | beandog | man |
| 22:07.12 | macnewbold | I wasn't planning on bringing donuts, but I could |
| 22:07.12 | beandog | poor guy |
| 22:07.13 | mindjuju | i know. drove 3 extra miles |
| 22:07.30 | beandog | when does it start? is it at linux networx again |
| 22:07.36 | beandog | I could bring halloween candy, really. |
| 22:07.46 | beandog | Ive got a bucket here at work. :) |
| 22:08.00 | beandog | How many people usually show up though? I havent gone to one in quite a while. |
| 22:10.25 | wps | hundreds |
| 22:10.39 | beandog | Youre just saying that so I bring extra M&Ms |
| 22:10.42 | wps | …if mac is presenting |
| 22:10.52 | wps | usually 20-30 |
| 22:11.16 | beandog | bueno |
| 22:12.48 | Utah_Dave | beandog: ooh, are you bringing Peanut M&M's? |
| 22:13.02 | beandog | heh |
| 22:13.05 | beandog | if you want |
| 22:13.24 | beandog | er, note |
| 22:13.27 | beandog | any other requests? |
| 22:14.04 | jsmith | Take notes for the people who can't make it :-) |
| 22:14.50 | Utah_Dave | Actually, I can't make it either :( |
| 22:21.25 | beandog | poopy |
| 22:21.46 | wps | peanut butter m&ms are the best |
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