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| 00:39.47 | mindjuju | RyanE! |
| 00:46.27 | mindjuju | i think i found a mega powerful frontend to complement AJAX |
| 01:09.19 | RyanE_ | groovy. |
| 01:09.22 | RyanE_ | which one? |
| 01:09.44 | mindjuju | dude, this thing is frickin' crazy cool, pulling URL back up for ya |
| 01:09.57 | mindjuju | xml based with xsl |
| 01:10.02 | RyanE | cool. I don't do HTML / PHP / Web dev anymore fulltime, but I'm always up to learning something new. |
| 01:10.09 | mindjuju | open platform |
| 01:10.13 | mindjuju | k, found it, here it is |
| 01:10.13 | RyanE | groovy. |
| 01:10.13 | mindjuju | http://www.laszlosystems.com/ |
| 01:10.22 | mindjuju | http://www.laszlosystems.com/ |
| 01:10.30 | mindjuju | check this app out |
| 01:10.30 | mindjuju | http://www.laszlosystems.com/lps/sample-apps/amazon/amazon2.lzx?lzt=html |
| 01:10.31 | RyanE | yeah, got it the first time. :) |
| 01:10.56 | mindjuju | drag those albums to the cart, or to wish list or between cart and wish list |
| 01:11.03 | RyanE | something tells me I have to allow JavaScript for this site. :) |
| 01:11.16 | mindjuju | yeah, you will |
| 01:11.42 | mindjuju | gotta scram, i'll be back |
| 01:11.53 | RyanE | it's swf |
| 01:11.57 | RyanE | not javascript. |
| 01:12.47 | RyanE | I thought you wanted a JavaScript solution. If you wanted a Flash-based solution, this would be lovely. |
| 01:13.49 | RyanE | at least the demo you show is... maybe you can do all the demo stuff w/o flash... we shall see. |
| 01:14.24 | RyanE | hmmm... Here's what it says on the Welcome page: No-install open Web deployment: compatible with any Web browser enabled with the Flash 6 player |
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| 13:58.37 | mindjuju | Ryan, i should have looked closer, it did look pretty impressive, but didn't have time to really look into it until now |
| 13:59.06 | mindjuju | This is just sad, you guys will never guess what is the top FAQ on the windows ME support page |
| 13:59.18 | mindjuju | How to uninstall Windows Me. |
| 13:59.22 | mindjuju | http://www.microsoft.com/windowsme/support/default.asp |
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| 15:35.07 | dataw0lf | I'm giving an iptables presentation tonight, anyone want to look over my handout? |
| 15:35.22 | mindjuju | fo sho |
| 15:36.03 | dataw0lf | http://dataw0lf.org/iptablespres.pdf |
| 15:36.10 | dataw0lf | http://dataw0lf.org/fig1.pdf |
| 15:36.28 | dataw0lf | Oh, and on the fourth page of the iptablepres.pdf, there's *ahem* some nasty language, so please disregard. |
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| 18:30.45 | macnewbold | anyone going to jsmith's asterisk presentation for UVLUG tomorrow? |
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| 19:07.12 | RyanE | mac: I'm trying to convince my wife that I should go. |
| 19:10.03 | macnewbold | yeah, I had the same discussion with mine yesterday ;) |
| 19:10.21 | macnewbold | you're a lot closer even, so it should be an easier sell for you, hopefully |
| 19:10.48 | macnewbold | I had to help her arrange for a place for the boys to stay and promise to take her to lunch and on a date |
| 19:11.05 | macnewbold | not that I mind, it will all be fun :) |
| 19:11.38 | RyanE | My wife has a practice in SLC at the same time, so if she can arrange a babysitter, I'll likely be able to go, otherwise, forget it. |
| 19:11.52 | RyanE | it will also involve one (or both) of our girls missing soccer games, so I'm doubtful. :) |
| 19:12.20 | macnewbold | ouch |
| 19:12.53 | RyanE | yeah. I went to his PLUG presentation, but I wanted to go again to get myself going on getting things setup. |
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| 21:04.58 | mindjuju | this is prolly the funniest news article i've read in YEARS |
| 21:05.06 | mindjuju | about 2 neighbors fighting over a property line |
| 21:05.07 | mindjuju | http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20051006/ap_on_re_us/feuding_neighbors_1 |
| 21:05.28 | mindjuju | one neighbor ran for govenor, the other a high profile lawyer |
| 21:05.30 | mindjuju | Videotapes played in court also showed the Hutchinses giving the finger toward the Hollingworth house and Mrs. Hutchins slapping her buttocks and bending over as Hollingworth and Gilligan passed in their car. Mrs. Hutchins said last week she was simply bending over. |
| 21:28.19 | macnewbold | wah wah wah... crybabies |
| 21:28.32 | macnewbold | don't know how to handle it when they don't get their way |
| 21:33.20 | mindjuju | :) |
| 21:33.33 | mindjuju | i just love that part though where she's slapping her butt at the neighbor |
| 22:41.12 | mindjuju | hey wps, or anybody |
| 22:41.24 | mindjuju | there doesn't appear to be a vertical center in CSS for text, is there? |
| 22:41.24 | RyanE | 'sup, mindjuju? |
| 22:41.48 | RyanE | dang. CSS question. Sorry, no help here. |
| 22:42.09 | mindjuju | seems like vertical-align is just for inline objects like img and such |
| 22:42.14 | mindjuju | nothing for text though |
| 22:42.24 | mindjuju | i'll prolly have to use padding |
| 22:54.26 | macnewbold | you can do vertical centering of an element _around_ the text, |
| 22:54.36 | macnewbold | like put a single-celled table around your text, |
| 22:54.51 | mindjuju | yeah, but that's cheating |
| 22:54.52 | macnewbold | and put "vertical-align: middle" |
| 22:54.57 | macnewbold | :-p |
| 22:55.02 | macnewbold | cheating shmeating |
| 22:55.10 | mindjuju | :) |
| 22:55.14 | macnewbold | you just need something that supports vertical-align |
| 22:55.17 | macnewbold | div's don't |
| 22:55.21 | macnewbold | but tables and table cells do |
| 22:55.28 | mindjuju | i love tables for that |
| 22:55.32 | macnewbold | it's still CSS doing the magic |
| 22:55.32 | mindjuju | tables = crack |
| 22:55.41 | macnewbold | me = addict |
| 22:55.46 | mindjuju | :) |
| 22:56.13 | mindjuju | i've hit this wall before where I need divs centered in a div, and i just can't seem to figure it out |
| 22:56.25 | macnewbold | I haven't taken the time to figure out what else does/doesn't support vertical-align in which browsers, |
| 22:56.34 | macnewbold | but I haven't found a way with pure divs yet |
| 22:56.37 | macnewbold | wps might know |
| 22:56.42 | macnewbold | and if he does, |
| 22:56.44 | macnewbold | I want to know too |
| 22:57.10 | mindjuju | i know this is suppose to do it |
| 22:57.11 | mindjuju | margin-left:auto; margin-right:auto; |
| 22:57.20 | mindjuju | but, i can't seem to find where to put it |
| 22:57.28 | mindjuju | every div i assign it to just ignore it |
| 22:57.55 | macnewbold | that will horizontal center, not vertical center |
| 22:58.13 | mindjuju | right right, i need both |
| 22:58.16 | macnewbold | you may get it with margin-top and margin-bottom set to auto |
| 22:58.18 | mindjuju | well, vert center text |
| 22:58.31 | macnewbold | to horizontal center, try text-align:center |
| 22:58.31 | mindjuju | hort center divs |
| 22:59.02 | mindjuju | sadly, i've tried that |
| 22:59.52 | mindjuju | grrr... and that stinkin' IE is pissin' me off big time! |
| 23:00.02 | mindjuju | when I add padding to a div, what do you suppose it do? |
| 23:00.11 | mindjuju | pad you the pix you want and let you go at that? |
| 23:00.16 | mindjuju | no, cause that would make since |
| 23:00.23 | mindjuju | s/since/sense |
| 23:00.42 | mindjuju | it pads you down that far, but splits the pixel and adds it to the top and bottom |
| 23:00.57 | mindjuju | so if your div is 50px high and you have padding:5px |
| 23:01.13 | mindjuju | you know have a div of 54px height |
| 23:01.17 | mindjuju | and that is just wrong |
| 23:01.55 | mindjuju | the HUMANITY!!!! AGHHHHHHHHH! |
| 23:05.45 | diskotec|w | ~dhit bill gates |
| 23:05.49 | jbot | ACTION manages to land Gentoo Install Time on bill gates, freezing him for days |
| 23:06.04 | mindjuju | ~bdhit bill gates |
| 23:06.05 | jbot | ACTION and mindjuju demonstrates the Iron Two Killers Hand on bill gates's forehead |
| 23:06.21 | diskotec|w | thats letting him off easy |
| 23:08.12 | diskotec|w | should be a 50 floppy disk win 95 install instead of gentoo install. (can't remember how many disks win 95 used.) |
| 23:08.54 | mindjuju | no, your right, i think it was 30 something |
| 23:09.00 | mindjuju | like 33 or 34 |
| 23:09.20 | diskotec|w | that would have been my second guess....somewhere in the 30's |
| 23:09.41 | mindjuju | i won paper, rocks and scissors so i didn't personally have to do it, but the guy that lost, had to do the install |
| 23:09.44 | mindjuju | boy, that was a close one |
| 23:09.50 | mindjuju | always go paper, i always say |
| 23:10.03 | mindjuju | :) |
| 23:10.06 | diskotec|w | the other twenty could be an imaginary 20 disk service pack...heh |
| 23:13.40 | diskotec|w | hmm...whats the linux command to see computer uptime? |
| 23:17.08 | fungus | hmm, could it be "uptime" :P |
| 23:21.45 | diskotec|w | heh....never heard of it and didn't think the command would be that obvious |
| 23:21.52 | diskotec|w | thanks |
| 23:30.35 | diskotec|w | heres something obvious... |
| 23:30.39 | diskotec|w | <PROTECTED> |
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