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| 16:40.55 | mindjuju | ~seen bigdog_ut |
| 16:41.01 | jbot | bigdog_ut <n=bigdog_u@shylonhunter.dsl.xmission.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #uphpu, 4d 19h 48m 47s ago, saying: 'doing a ton of things really'. |
| 16:41.31 | mindjuju | hmmm.... haven't seen him logged on in a couple of days |
| 16:42.12 | tierra | I still have someone's nice big knife from the BBQ, and can't remember who belongs to... |
| 16:43.21 | macnewbold | tierra: what does it look like? |
| 16:43.46 | tierra | it's really long, seraded... I think whoever brought the two watermelons |
| 16:44.02 | tierra | has two sharp points on the end |
| 16:44.47 | tierra | pretty nice knife, I wouldn't want to part with it =) |
| 16:48.31 | tierra | anyway, I don't know if I can make it down to the meeting tonight, but if you didn't hear, I moved, and am actually a lot closer to LinuxNetworx, so if you want to ask at the meeting or something, I should be back or on my way back to my place by the time the meeting gets out |
| 16:48.52 | tierra | so if they want to give me a call and pick it up on the way back from the meeting or something |
| 16:49.06 | tierra | I live off of 112th So and State now |
| 16:49.41 | tierra | If I make it back home a bit earlier tonight, I'll just drop in at the meeting |
| 17:07.04 | macnewbold | ah, the watermelons - those were from greygnome - Jeff Shuey - IIRC |
| 17:07.08 | macnewbold | ~seen greygnome |
| 17:07.12 | jbot | greygnome <n=greygnom@c-67-186-198-153.hsd1.ut.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #uphpu, 47d 23h 48m 4s ago, saying: 'Okay everyone, I'll see you later today.'. |
| 17:07.19 | macnewbold | yeah, been a while :) |
| 17:08.16 | mindjuju | yeah, where is greygnome? |
| 17:08.53 | mindjuju | well, where ever he is, surely, he is missing us |
| 17:09.03 | mindjuju | :) |
| 17:14.26 | macnewbold | he still comes to all the phlyte meetings |
| 17:14.43 | *** topic/#uphpu by macnewbold -> Jeff Barr Tonight! 7pm - Amazon Web Services | Utah PHP User Group | http://www.uphpu.org |
| 17:15.00 | macnewbold | dataw0lf: wanna bring the phlyte server to the meeting tonight? |
| 17:15.05 | macnewbold | or is tonight the urapug meeting? |
| 17:30.19 | tierra | might be a URAPUG meeting tonight... I think I remember him talking about one in the last week |
| 17:30.39 | tierra | eco says there is supposed to be one |
| 17:31.35 | macnewbold | well, urapug is invited to come ask Jeff Barr questions about python/ruby web services at amazon... |
| 17:33.20 | eco | :) |
| 18:13.22 | mindjuju | i've heard that silica sand is used to make computer parts, but i'm curious as to exactly which parts? seems like it was to make transistors. is that right? anybody know? is it used to make anything else? |
| 18:15.11 | macnewbold | silica sand would be used to make silicon |
| 18:15.24 | macnewbold | which is used in making chips, which include transistors |
| 18:16.59 | mindjuju | coolio, thnx! |
| 18:17.24 | jsmith | Usually, the silica has to be impregnated with germanium, etc. to create a semiconductor |
| 18:20.08 | macnewbold | some use arsenic I believe, too |
| 18:20.45 | macnewbold | silicon dioxide is the main ingredient I believe |
| 18:20.59 | macnewbold | it's been a long time, so I'm not sure how well I'm remembering |
| 18:21.05 | macnewbold | I bet wikipedia would know, though |
| 18:21.31 | mindjuju | been there, tried it already |
| 18:21.43 | jsmith | This month's Popular Science shows how to extract pure silicon from ordinary sand. |
| 18:21.51 | mindjuju | well, from the silca sand keywords, didn't try it from transistors though |
| 18:22.58 | macnewbold | try silicon rather than silica sand |
| 18:23.31 | macnewbold | jsmith: what's the magic? I imagine they don't try to distill it by evaporation... |
| 18:25.13 | jsmith | macnewbold: There are a couple of ways -- this one put it and something else in acid... |
| 18:28.12 | macnewbold | any particular acid? how does the acid affect the silicon vs other stuff in the sand? |
| 18:31.04 | jsmith | Yeah, I think it was muriatic, but I could be wrong. |
| 18:32.41 | dataw0lf | commercially I think they use graphite coke + sand + heat |
| 18:33.21 | macnewbold | sounds plausible - muriatic acid is the one that can dissolve glass (mostly silicon) right? |
| 18:33.53 | jsmith | dataw0lf: Yup. |
| 18:34.03 | macnewbold | yeah coke + fire = extreme heat, melt the sand and get the silicon out. They use coke to process iron ore into steel, too |
| 18:34.17 | jsmith | dataw0lf: You can also do it by burning magnesium in sand, but it's more work. |
| 18:34.36 | macnewbold | and probably more costly to get magnesium than coke |
| 18:34.56 | dataw0lf | <3 magnesium |
| 18:38.28 | macnewbold | burning magnesium underwater is tons of fun |
| 18:38.31 | macnewbold | ~burninate |
| 19:05.19 | jsmith | I'll bet :-) |
| 19:08.57 | macnewbold | ~listkeys burnin |
| 19:09.10 | macnewbold | ~burninate trogdor |
| 19:09.12 | jbot | ACTION burninates trogdor and thrashes him soundly with Trogdor's meat arm. |
| 19:16.57 | macnewbold | ~burninate is <reply> Trogdor terrorizes the countryside, burninating the peasants, thrashing them soundly with his meat arm |
| 19:16.58 | jbot | ACTION burninates is <reply> Trogdor terrorizes the countryside, burninating the peasants, thrashing them soundly with his meat arm and thrashes him soundly with Trogdor's meat arm. |
| 19:17.33 | macnewbold | jbot, burninate |
| 19:17.46 | macnewbold | jbot, burninate is something |
| 19:17.47 | jbot | ACTION burninates is something and thrashes him soundly with Trogdor's meat arm. |
| 19:18.02 | macnewbold | jbot, no, burninate is <reply> Trogdor terrorizes the countryside, burninating the peasants, thrashing them soundly with his meat arm |
| 19:18.03 | jbot | okay, macnewbold |
| 19:18.07 | macnewbold | ~burninate |
| 19:18.08 | jbot | Trogdor terrorizes the countryside, burninating the peasants, thrashing them soundly with his meat arm |
| 19:18.12 | macnewbold | ~burninate jbot |
| 19:18.13 | jbot | ACTION burninates jbot and thrashes him soundly with Trogdor's meat arm. |
| 19:18.17 | macnewbold | nice |
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| 20:06.26 | mindjuju | burninate? sounds like a personal health issue to me! that mac is bringing it up, hmm... i wonder what that means? isn't burninating a symptom of an syphilis or the like? |
| 20:14.52 | fungus | "In Python, how do you create a string of random characters?" -- "Read a Perl file!" |
| 20:16.12 | mindjuju | heya fungus, what did you have for lunch, the coke or the monster size mocha latte ? |
| 20:16.28 | fungus | just a coke. |
| 20:16.49 | fungus | brb, gotta run upstairs to get another one. |
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| 21:36.15 | mindjuju | does anybody know off hand, isn't there a rule that says that you can't send off a form that exists in an iframe with javascript in the parent window? |
| 21:48.07 | macnewbold | huh? |
| 21:48.22 | macnewbold | having not really used iframes, I can't say for sure, |
| 21:48.37 | macnewbold | but with normal frames, I think you can control them from the parent window |
| 21:48.57 | macnewbold | one requirement would be that you have a way in the DOM to get a handle on the stuff inside the frame |
| 21:49.25 | mindjuju | yeah, with frames frames, yes. just go out to the parent and do it. but i've been trying to do so with an iframe have getting my butt kicked |
| 21:59.38 | macnewbold | I thought you were used to that by now... |
| 21:59.46 | macnewbold | ;) |
| 22:00.08 | mindjuju | did you see the comments above about you burninating? |
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| 23:26.31 | macnewbold | doh |
| 23:26.36 | macnewbold | missed fungus already |
| 23:28.24 | macnewbold | anyone in here happen to know a phone number for fungus? |
| 23:28.25 | jsmith | You guys have wireless at the Linux Networx place? |
| 23:28.32 | macnewbold | yeah, IIRC |
| 23:28.37 | jsmith | Cool. |
| 23:29.14 | macnewbold | nice |
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| 23:56.33 | fungus | macnewbold, Can you still pick me up tonight? :) |
| 23:56.49 | macnewbold | ah, there you are :) |
| 23:56.53 | macnewbold | I just emailed you |
| 23:57.02 | macnewbold | yeah, I'll msg you |
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