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| 16:49.01 | macnewbold | ~yow |
| 17:24.37 | jsmith | How appropriate -- my wife bought me a new fishing pole yesterday |
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| 17:43.14 | RyanE_ | jsmith: did she navigate the largish Cabelas to find you a fishing pole? |
| 17:43.27 | jsmith | RyanE_: Oh, I wish... |
| 17:43.41 | jsmith | (Although we were going to go to Cabelas last weekend) |
| 17:44.22 | jsmith | In short, she bought a cheap one for me, and an even cheaper one for my son. |
| 17:44.27 | RyanE_ | I haven't been yet, although my kids have on school field trips... not quite sure how educational it was, but they enjoyed it. |
| 17:44.57 | jsmith | Ah, it's mostly just a way to spend time talking... it's not about the fish. |
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| 17:47.52 | RyanE_ | yep |
| 18:12.45 | wps | uphpu.org Google-ranks at 7! |
| 18:12.49 | wps | yeah for us |
| 18:22.07 | jsmith | Way to go! |
| 18:22.15 | jsmith | Now I need more links from there to my website. |
| 18:22.44 | jsmith | wps: You need a "members" page where we can all but info about ourselves. |
| 18:22.54 | wps | already exists |
| 18:23.00 | jsmith | wps: Projects we work on, books we've written (shameless plug), etc. |
| 18:23.03 | jsmith | Doh! |
| 18:23.04 | jsmith | Where? |
| 18:23.29 | mindjuju | http://www.uphpu.org/member/user.php |
| 18:32.02 | jsmith | How about that... it even lets me upload my ugly mugshot to torture anyone who visits! |
| 18:35.09 | macnewbold | jsmith said "it's not about the fish", but really, that's just an excuse poor fishermen use |
| 18:35.12 | macnewbold | ;) |
| 18:35.30 | jsmith | macnewbold: If it were about catching fish, they'd call it catching, not fishing :-) |
| 18:36.23 | macnewbold | I thought you said you hadn't been fishing yet, but I guess that meant with the new pole |
| 18:42.22 | jsmith | No, not with the new pole. |
| 18:42.32 | jsmith | (I actually haven't been in a couple of years) |
| 18:50.31 | macnewbold | I go occasionally, but not very much - no time |
| 18:50.46 | jsmith | No kidding. |
| 18:51.44 | jsmith | At least I get to make it to this week's meeting :-) |
| 18:58.48 | mindjuju | anybody got any resources of good project workflow from brainstorm to project completion with guidebars to prevent scope creep, etc? |
| 18:59.05 | jsmith | Uh... no. |
| 18:59.30 | mindjuju | i saw a template on the web once that had good forms for project description, etc, etc and it walked the whole process, but can't find the template anymore |
| 19:00.11 | jsmith | If you find it, please let me know :-) |
| 19:00.48 | mindjuju | i really should have saved it, tatooed it on my arm, etc |
| 19:00.56 | mindjuju | it was beautiful, literally had everything |
| 19:03.15 | jsmith | And google can't find it? |
| 19:03.38 | mindjuju | well, google finds 19,500,000 pages with project and workflow |
| 19:05.17 | mindjuju | argh!!! it was crazy beautiful even, cause even though it was the lifecycle for applications [conception, delivery, upgrades], it was basic enough that it wouldn't have taken 2 braincells to transfer it to other things like marketing strategy, etc |
| 20:34.25 | macnewbold | ~philosophize |
| 20:34.26 | jbot | i heard philosophize is this... i'd rather have a bottle in front of me then a frontal labotomy |
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| 21:28.03 | Utah_Dave | macnewbold: have you tried out that Mozy service yourself? |
| 21:28.26 | macnewbold | not yet |
| 21:28.35 | macnewbold | don't have a box that could use it at the moment |
| 21:28.56 | macnewbold | it's pretty sweet, he's told me how it works and stuff |
| 21:30.22 | Utah_Dave | cool. I think I'm going to use it to back up all my digital photos. just to try it out. I've been debating spending a bunch of money on a raid, but the one I want is kind of spendy |
| 21:31.07 | Utah_Dave | jsmith: that thought did cross my mind, too |
| 21:31.57 | fungus | The general idea of Mozy has lots of potential however. |
| 21:32.24 | fungus | Backup and the iDisk is a huge part of .mac subscriptions. but they are the only competitor I can think of. |
| 21:33.17 | fungus | Josh just needs to get it cross platform, and have a subscription model for additional storage and he is set. |
| 21:35.23 | RyanE_ | yeah, but for Photos that are already web-accessible, it might not be a bad idea. i.e. my Gallery, which only gets rarely backed up now... |
| 21:39.42 | mindjuju | s/went/meant |
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| 22:22.27 | macnewbold | fungus: you already can subscribe to get additional storage |
| 22:22.37 | macnewbold | the cross platform clients are in the works |
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| 22:23.12 | fungus | very nice. |
| 22:23.22 | macnewbold | I know they're finalizing a linux one, which may also be a mac OSX one, or the start of one anyway, and they're almost done with a web-based client that at least can do recovery |
| 22:24.49 | macnewbold | ~celebrate |
| 22:24.50 | jbot | ACTION dances around firing six-shooters in the air |
| 22:24.57 | macnewbold | my copy of ~thebook by jsmith just shipped! |
| 22:25.04 | jsmith | macnewbold: Cool! |
| 22:25.06 | macnewbold | (it's about time) |
| 22:25.15 | jsmith | macnewbold: My copy should be here tomorrow (the one from Amazon, not from O'Reilly) |
| 22:25.18 | macnewbold | (buy.com was really slow this time... I ordered two weeks ago) |
| 22:25.25 | jsmith | Youch. |
| 22:25.34 | macnewbold | wha? you have to buy your own copy? |
| 22:26.00 | jsmith | No, but O'Reilly is shipping the books to paying customers first, so the authors have to wait for their copies. |
| 22:26.11 | jsmith | And I'm too impatient, so I just bought one off of Amazon. |
| 22:26.58 | macnewbold | what, they didn't print enough copies to send it to paying customres and authors at the same time? |
| 22:27.26 | jsmith | It's not a matter of printing enough copies -- it's a matter of which ones to ship from the warehouse first. |
| 22:27.36 | jsmith | (They can't get all the thousands of copies shipped out on the same day) |
| 22:36.00 | macnewbold | I'd be surprised if O'Reilly didn't ship thousands of books a day |
| 22:36.23 | macnewbold | they just need to make tomorrow "Asterisk Day" and send out all the books |
| 22:36.25 | macnewbold | :) |
| 22:37.11 | jsmith | macnewbold: You don't realize the logistical problem they have -- they're releasing new books every day, and everybody wants theirs :-) |
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| 22:37.57 | jsmith | macnewbold: They're doing the best they can, but for the most part, they tell me it's the bookstores that are slow to put their orders in. Many bookstores wait until the have orders for X books before they actually order them from O'Reilly. |
| 22:38.03 | macnewbold | I know, I was kididng |
| 22:38.15 | macnewbold | anyone should know that your book is more important than the rest |
| 22:38.22 | jsmith | No, it's not. |
| 22:38.31 | macnewbold | it is to me |
| 22:38.34 | jsmith | It's the 7th most important computer book that Amazon sells. |
| 22:38.41 | macnewbold | wow, cool! |
| 22:38.51 | jsmith | (importance being judged by book sales) |
| 22:38.57 | macnewbold | that's great! |
| 22:39.02 | jsmith | And the number one telecom book, of course. |
| 22:39.13 | macnewbold | have you checked other sites like bn.com or others? |
| 22:39.20 | macnewbold | I hope it's at least that popular across the board |
| 22:39.41 | jsmith | Yeah... but BN combines their stats from in-store sales and online sales, so the numbers don't equate. |
| 22:39.55 | macnewbold | ah |
| 22:40.47 | jsmith | We're like #400 in Amazon, but number 1500 on BN -- because BN sells a lot of the same dumb books in their stores. |
| 22:40.58 | macnewbold | ah |
| 22:41.55 | jsmith | Last week we got as high as #280 on Amazon. |
| 22:42.11 | jsmith | (They recalculate every hour for their most popular books) |
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| 23:52.30 | mindjuju | anybody around? |
| 23:53.49 | macnewbold | barely |
| 23:53.52 | macnewbold | I'm headed out |
| 23:54.03 | mindjuju | bummer |
| 23:54.06 | macnewbold | sup? |
| 23:54.08 | mindjuju | i'll ask tomorrow |
| 23:54.11 | macnewbold | k |
| 23:54.13 | macnewbold | see ya |
| 23:54.16 | mindjuju | cya |