| 00:08.10 | mindjuju | they put a lot of time into that chicken |
| 00:10.05 | mindjuju | breakdance and running man are my favs, though moonwalk ain't too bad either |
| 00:26.15 | bigdog_ut | y |
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| 02:07.13 | diskotec|w | http://mrcel.homelinux.org/jpr0grm/GotMilk.wmv |
| 04:16.39 | bigdog_ut | evenin all |
| 05:09.13 | diskotec|w | how late do you stay up bigdog? |
| 06:18.45 | bigdog_ut | between 12am and 3am |
| 06:18.53 | bigdog_ut | tonight i am heading early now |
| 06:19.00 | bigdog_ut | cause im really tired |
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| 14:22.39 | mindjuju | hilarious AP news article, possible NSFW, about a new product that a "rubber" company is putting out. Top product is called Clinton, and the not quite as quality product called Lewinsky. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050921/ap_on_fe_st/clinton_condoms |
| 14:24.01 | dataw0lf | ... |
| 14:24.10 | dataw0lf | the hilarious part? |
| 14:24.15 | dataw0lf | that anyone would consider that NSFW |
| 14:24.25 | dataw0lf | you guys need to get out more. |
| 14:24.35 | mindjuju | just being cautious |
| 14:24.47 | mindjuju | but you have to admit that was funny |
| 14:25.43 | dataw0lf | I'll stick with my ultra magnums |
| 14:25.45 | dataw0lf | >_> |
| 14:25.48 | dataw0lf | <_< |
| 14:25.57 | mindjuju | lol |
| 14:32.38 | mindjuju | k, this is just way cool |
| 14:32.39 | mindjuju | http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050920/ap_on_hi_te/apple_itunes |
| 14:33.02 | mindjuju | about steve jobs refusing to raise itune prices and calling record companys greedy |
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| 15:37.13 | trogdorr | i'm stuck! i am supposed to write a php script that connects to a remote services server to send a query and receive data. I have the ip address and port number for the remote services server. I have the xml format for the query. I don't know where to begin to connect and send the query! socket_? curl_? Help! |
| 15:52.24 | macnewbold | trogdorr: how can I help? |
| 15:52.42 | macnewbold | what type of server is the remote service? http? or something else? |
| 15:53.15 | trogdorr | the api for it just says TCP/IP |
| 15:53.16 | macnewbold | it's probably http, and I'd start with curl - it's easy cheezy |
| 15:53.26 | macnewbold | hm |
| 15:53.39 | macnewbold | so there's no wrapper around the xml or anything? just connect and send it? |
| 15:53.55 | trogdorr | i've looked at curl, and the only thing i can see that you send is the url |
| 15:54.02 | macnewbold | to test it out manually, try running "telnet server port" |
| 15:54.07 | macnewbold | then paste the xml request at it |
| 15:54.11 | macnewbold | and see what it responds with |
| 15:54.24 | macnewbold | if that works, then you need to open a socket rather than an http connection (curl) |
| 15:54.38 | trogdorr | ok i can try testing it |
| 15:54.54 | macnewbold | your server/port can be a URL, but unless the server's expecting http requests, it won't do the right thing |
| 15:55.08 | trogdorr | the api says to send the query with "0x00000152" at the top, representing the size of the message |
| 15:55.25 | macnewbold | that's specific bytes |
| 15:55.32 | macnewbold | you may have a hard time sending that via telnet |
| 15:55.44 | macnewbold | but that's not http, obviously, so socket it is |
| 15:56.07 | macnewbold | so in your php, open the socket, then write the request to it, starting with that magic number |
| 15:56.40 | macnewbold | then you should be able to read from it, which will block until they send you the data (which is okay), unless you do an async read |
| 15:56.59 | macnewbold | then when you're done reading, you can close it, or perhaps send another request if the api allows that |
| 15:57.30 | trogdorr | ok that is very helpful. |
| 15:57.47 | trogdorr | and how would i send the bytes, the api says "The value of the 4-byte header is an integer and should be in network byte order." |
| 15:58.35 | trogdorr | like maybe "5670<?xml version...." |
| 15:59.31 | trogdorr | or would it want a string starting with 0x0 that converts to a 4-byte header? |
| 16:14.12 | RyanE | trogdorr: do they have any sample code or a sample app that can access this service? Sometimes it's easier to sniff the network for what *actually* is sent than to interpret instructions... |
| 16:18.16 | trogdorr | it is vexing, but they don't have any sample app |
| 16:18.57 | trogdorr | it looks like socket_write may automatically prepend the 4-byte header |
| 16:19.22 | trogdorr | i'm trying out some things |
| 16:23.49 | trogdorr | oh great. the server i'm using is compiled --disable-sockets!!! |
| 16:24.56 | RyanE | yeah, that would be a problem. |
| 16:28.02 | trogdorr | it seems pretty common to disable sockets. is there a security risk or something with sockets? |
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| 17:05.20 | macnewbold | trogdorr: sockets usually aren't needed, but are very powerful, and can be used easily for evil things, so people sometimes disable them. But you'll need them, so you may have to look into using the telnet executable on your system or something, and piping data in and out from it |
| 17:05.55 | macnewbold | the thing about the 4-byte header is this: it expects it as an integer, not as a string representing an integer. You may need to use pack() or something. |
| 17:06.20 | cycokilr | could i use them for blackmail? |
| 17:06.39 | macnewbold | you may be able to write an integer-typed variable to a socket successfully, but that may also do the same thing as "echo" and convert it to a string before sending it. |
| 17:06.57 | macnewbold | blackmail could be done with sockets, somewhat indirectly, depending on what dirt you were able to dig up with your sockets |
| 17:07.08 | cycokilr | nice.. |
| 17:07.10 | cycokilr | thanks man.. |
| 17:11.38 | dataw0lf | >_> |
| 17:11.40 | dataw0lf | <_< |
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| 17:12.03 | dataw0lf | >_> |
| 17:12.05 | dataw0lf | <_< |
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| 17:12.23 | trogdorr | we should have a presentation on "php and blackmail" |
| 17:22.15 | cycokilr | motherland? i thought that was canada.. |
| 17:23.36 | mindjuju | maybe if your a canadian |
| 17:23.52 | mindjuju | ah! Texas, what a great place! |
| 17:26.58 | cycokilr | true though, rudy's comes from there.. and it might just be the best bbq sause around.. |
| 17:28.29 | mindjuju | never had rudy's but if it is from Texas it's 99+% likely that it is the best |
| 17:29.32 | mindjuju | where bouts you from cycokilr? |
| 17:30.05 | cycokilr | what? |
| 17:30.33 | cycokilr | you don't know the cycokilr? |
| 17:30.56 | mindjuju | ~cycokilr |
| 17:31.56 | cycokilr | take it easy.. i was just joking man.. |
| 17:32.02 | cycokilr | i live in slc.. |
| 17:32.22 | mindjuju | where you born in the SLC? |
| 17:32.34 | cycokilr | nope.. ventura california.. |
| 17:32.40 | cycokilr | well, really ojai ca.. |
| 17:32.46 | cycokilr | (right next door) |
| 17:33.28 | mindjuju | ah, california, been there once, its nice there |
| 17:34.02 | diskotec|w | Central Calif. sucks |
| 17:34.04 | cycokilr | in some places.. in ventura, it's right around 75 deg all year round.. |
| 17:34.06 | mindjuju | if memory serves, seems like dw said he was from cali |
| 17:34.12 | cycokilr | nope |
| 17:34.15 | cycokilr | he's from chicago.. |
| 17:34.43 | mindjuju | dag! darn memory! |
| 17:35.21 | diskotec|w | In Central Calif they have to postpone outdoor high school sporting events because of the polution. |
| 17:35.32 | cycokilr | yeah, that sucks.. |
| 17:35.39 | cycokilr | what do you mean central? |
| 17:35.44 | diskotec|w | Fresno |
| 17:35.51 | diskotec|w | ...inland |
| 17:36.21 | cycokilr | ahh.. yeah fresno is crap.. |
| 17:36.24 | diskotec|w | Central Calif on the coast is beautiful and I'd love to live there....a little expensive though. |
| 17:36.33 | mindjuju | postpone outdoor sports? is it really that polluted? |
| 17:36.34 | cycokilr | my dad moved out of fresno about 2 years ago.. |
| 17:36.38 | cycokilr | oh yeah |
| 17:36.47 | diskotec|w | Fresno, Bakersfield...I guess anytown in the San Jouquin Valley |
| 17:37.20 | diskotec|w | Yeah...they postpone football games until later in the evening if the air quality is too bad |
| 17:37.29 | diskotec|w | cross country events....etc. |
| 17:38.08 | diskotec|w | easy for smaller kids to get asthma there. |
| 17:38.33 | dataw0lf | me?? |
| 17:38.35 | dataw0lf | from California?? |
| 17:38.39 | dataw0lf | yeah. |
| 17:38.40 | dataw0lf | right. |
| 17:39.29 | dataw0lf | now, northern California is ok. |
| 17:39.43 | mindjuju | well, in my defense, California and Chicago both start with C s. now, it's true thats where the similarities end, but... |
| 17:39.46 | diskotec|w | yeah...northern Calif is pretty cool |
| 17:39.56 | cycokilr | dude, come on.. too many hippies in no cal.. |
| 17:40.25 | mindjuju | now the northwest like washington and oregon is suppose to be tops |
| 17:40.30 | dataw0lf | I was born in Oregon. |
| 17:40.30 | cycokilr | hippies |
| 17:40.33 | cycokilr | too many hippies |
| 17:40.37 | diskotec|w | hehe |
| 17:40.41 | cycokilr | i hate hippies |
| 17:40.44 | mindjuju | i'd consider that area, if it weren't for that dang snow |
| 17:40.46 | dataw0lf | better hippies than ahem... well, this is a Utah channel. |
| 17:41.03 | cycokilr | and that patchouli smell.. man.. i hate that.. |
| 17:41.03 | dataw0lf | I'll go to lunch before I'm crucified. |
| 17:41.24 | dataw0lf | I like patchouli |
| 17:41.25 | dataw0lf | that is all |
| 17:41.52 | dataw0lf | cycokilr: but I think me and you know what the REAL problem with hippie women is.... |
| 17:41.55 | dataw0lf | >_> |
| 17:41.57 | dataw0lf | <_< |
| 17:42.01 | cycokilr | yep |
| 17:42.13 | cycokilr | v_v |
| 17:42.36 | cycokilr | things that make you go hmmm.. |
| 17:42.47 | diskotec|w | lack of hygiene |
| 17:42.56 | dataw0lf | nah. |
| 17:43.02 | dataw0lf | hippie women are usually pretty clean, to be honest. |
| 17:43.05 | cycokilr | gillette |
| 17:43.09 | cycokilr | schick |
| 17:43.11 | dataw0lf | cycokilr: there you go. |
| 17:43.18 | cycokilr | x-acto |
| 17:43.21 | dataw0lf | haha |
| 17:43.24 | dataw0lf | they need something |
| 17:43.28 | dataw0lf | some lawn shears? |
| 17:43.34 | cycokilr | lawn-boy? |
| 17:43.36 | dataw0lf | omg I've outdone myself now |
| 17:43.42 | dataw0lf | I'm literally rofl |
| 17:43.42 | cycokilr | craftsman? |
| 17:43.45 | dataw0lf | well I was |
| 17:43.52 | cycokilr | weed eater? |
| 17:43.53 | diskotec|w | well...we there is a town in this valley where a lot of them live...I don't think they believe in deoderant or bathing all that often |
| 17:44.13 | dataw0lf | diskotec|w: there's a difference between hippies and the homeless, surprisingly enough. |
| 17:44.23 | diskotec|w | heh...they aren't homeless |
| 17:44.31 | cycokilr | wow, that sucks then.. |
| 17:44.36 | dataw0lf | squatting doesn't mean they're not homeless |
| 17:45.01 | cycokilr | actually, there are people on my porch every morning that don't shower much.. ahh, the beauty of living in downtown slc.. |
| 17:45.08 | diskotec|w | they have homes and some of them are well off financially |
| 17:45.17 | cycokilr | hippies |
| 17:45.40 | cycokilr | (well, aged-hippies) |
| 17:45.44 | dataw0lf | diskotec|w: then they're just dirty. |
| 17:45.49 | dataw0lf | I'm talking about little college girl hippies |
| 17:45.56 | diskotec|w | oh...those |
| 17:46.28 | diskotec|w | I'm talking about the ones that are old enough that they could have attended woodstock |
| 17:46.36 | dataw0lf | oh, those are just dirty people. |
| 17:46.44 | cycokilr | yeah, they just lost track of time.. |
| 17:46.51 | cycokilr | and showering.. |
| 17:46.54 | dataw0lf | but for the college girl hippies, that's why I carry a hedge trimmer around. |
| 17:47.02 | diskotec|w | hehe |
| 17:47.29 | cycokilr | tru dat man.. |
| 17:48.06 | dataw0lf | Disgusting. |
| 17:51.23 | mindjuju | i have to admit, i've never dated a woman with these kinds of problems |
| 17:55.44 | dataw0lf | who said anything about dating? |
| 17:55.46 | dataw0lf | muha |
| 18:07.23 | macnewbold | ~rimshot |
| 18:07.24 | jbot | ch-ch-chhh |
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| 20:00.30 | mindjuju | i need some music |
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| 21:00.25 | bradym | is it possible to call a function from inside of another function? |
| 21:01.57 | fungus | of course |
| 21:02.21 | bradym | anything special you have to do for it to work? |
| 21:02.45 | fungus | it's even possible to call a function within a function within a function within a function. |
| 21:03.14 | fungus | no. as long as the function is defined it is global. |
| 21:06.06 | bradym | thanks |
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| 21:46.54 | mindjuju | the thing that confused me and thankfully never had to use was something like a function in a variable, not sure how or where i would need that |
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| 23:16.42 | mindjuju | wow, man receives evidence of his kidnapped dog |
| 23:16.43 | mindjuju | http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/local/5002482/detail.html |
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| 23:17.10 | macnewbold | my dog was kidnapped |
| 23:17.13 | macnewbold | gone for over a month |
| 23:17.17 | macnewbold | finally got her back |
| 23:17.44 | macnewbold | we live in sugarhouse, and they picked her up after a month, at 4700 S and Redwood Road (1700 W) |
| 23:17.52 | macnewbold | (animal control, that is) |
| 23:27.27 | fungus | I am very happy you got him back. I know I would be devastated if my dog(s) were kidnapped. |
| 23:28.12 | macnewbold | yeah, it was weird |
| 23:28.53 | macnewbold | there was no evidence that she got out, nobody in the neighborhood had seen her, and she was just gone, in about 2.5 hr absence at night |
| 23:29.36 | macnewbold | then to have her reappear, a month later, over 5 miles away, across many busy streets, |
| 23:29.41 | macnewbold | there's just no way she got there on her own |
| 23:29.48 | macnewbold | plus someone had taken her collar and tags off |
| 23:30.08 | macnewbold | maybe they didn't know she had a microchip, who knows |
| 23:30.50 | macnewbold | it's not like she's a smart dog or anything, or even a purebred - just a chocolate lab/german shepherd mix |
| 23:31.07 | macnewbold | and she's big and hyper and pretty dumb |
| 23:31.13 | macnewbold | though she's been a lot better since we got her back |
| 23:34.50 | fungus | yeah, microchips are wonderful. |