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| 02:41.33 | bigdog_ut | evening all |
| 03:03.41 | diskotec|w | hi bigdog |
| 03:29.10 | bigdog_ut | whatz up |
| 03:42.29 | diskotec|w | got out of class, came to work to finish things up for the day |
| 03:42.38 | bigdog_ut | oh nice |
| 03:48.55 | diskotec|w | class aint so nice....intro to music (having to learn classical music). I mean if you're going to hold a NIGHT music course, don't make it classical and expect people not to get sleepy. |
| 03:50.11 | diskotec|w | heh....have to get a mountain dew and put an iv straight into my veins to keep me awake in there. |
| 03:50.50 | diskotec|w | veins...arteries....whatever |
| 03:55.27 | bigdog_ut | lol |
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| 04:09.46 | bigdog_ut | i actually enjoyed my music class |
| 04:09.59 | bigdog_ut | got me into many classical composers |
| 04:10.33 | bigdog_ut | i really enjoy vivaldi, haden and wagner |
| 04:23.24 | diskotec|w | I think haden is on our list to listen to. |
| 04:24.15 | diskotec|w | I chose the wrong time of day to take it though. had a brain fart and wasn't thinking. |
| 04:24.28 | bigdog_ut | lol |
| 04:24.37 | bigdog_ut | i took it saturday morning which sucked |
| 04:24.45 | bigdog_ut | teacher was boring...but the music was good |
| 04:24.47 | diskotec|w | hehe |
| 04:26.39 | diskotec|w | I've paid the most for my books this semester than I have any other....having to buy the cd's for my music class bumped me from $467 to $525 |
| 04:27.53 | diskotec|w | I think they were wanting to make sure we spent more in books than we did for gas for the whole semester. |
| 04:28.17 | bigdog_ut | no doubt |
| 04:28.19 | bigdog_ut | i hate it |
| 04:28.27 | bigdog_ut | i actually got on emusic and did it that way |
| 04:28.37 | bigdog_ut | cheaper and greater selection for classical music |
| 04:31.13 | diskotec|w | I'll have to keep emusic in mind. I found out that they took these music pieces and chopped them up into 40 second, 90 second, 3 minute etc slices and explained what was playing and how they were playing etc. So I would have had to do some really good listening had I downloaded the individual pieces. |
| 04:31.41 | diskotec|w | ...from emusic |
| 04:32.11 | bigdog_ut | yeah |
| 04:32.15 | bigdog_ut | we did not get those |
| 04:32.23 | bigdog_ut | we had to just go get some cds |
| 04:34.08 | diskotec|w | well....I'm going home.....wife needs my help with the youngin. |
| 04:34.12 | diskotec|w | good night |
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| 16:36.36 | macnewbold | ~cookie |
| 16:37.36 | mindjuju | Internet Pioneer Vinton Cerf Joins Google -- http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050908/ap_on_hi_te/google_cerf |
| 17:00.56 | macnewbold | ~seen jsmith |
| 17:01.01 | jbot | jsmith <n=jsmith@64.0.192.254> was last seen on IRC in channel #utah, 5d 18h 12m 47s ago, saying: 'goozbach: Go read the man page for at'. |
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| 17:07.55 | macnewbold | ah, there he is. is dataw0lf himself or dataw0lf- today? |
| 17:08.17 | macnewbold | dataw0lf- isn't in #phlyte, where I've been talking to dataw0lf for the past several days |
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| 17:48.41 | RyanE | hula? |
| 17:48.44 | RyanE | oops! |
| 17:51.24 | macnewbold | ~hula |
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| 18:38.49 | mindjuju | dw, you around? |
| 19:40.01 | macnewbold | ~yow |
| 19:40.08 | macnewbold | ~zippy |
| 19:40.29 | dataw0lf | mrawr |
| 19:41.47 | mindjuju | sup dw |
| 19:41.59 | dataw0lf | my blood pressure! |
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| 19:51.39 | RyanE | and your BAL... ? |
| 19:52.22 | mindjuju | if the pressure is high, then the BAL has to be low |
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| 20:38.46 | wps | what comes next in this series? |
| 20:39.03 | wps | initial, secondary, tertiary, __________ |
| 20:39.09 | macnewbold | quaternary |
| 20:39.13 | macnewbold | IIRC |
| 20:39.24 | macnewbold | if you go to google labs, you could try google sets |
| 20:39.39 | wps | that works |
| 20:39.40 | macnewbold | you can also s/initial/primary/ |
| 20:39.42 | wps | it's in the dictionary |
| 20:39.46 | wps | ah |
| 20:39.56 | wps | thanks… "initial" didn't sound right |
| 20:39.59 | wps | thanks, macnewbold |
| 20:41.50 | mindjuju | macnewbold isn't just smart, he's jeopardy smart |
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| 20:41.58 | macnewbold | hehe |
| 20:41.59 | macnewbold | right |
| 20:42.35 | wps | jbot, macnewbold is smarter than Ken Jennings |
| 20:42.39 | jbot | ...but macnewbold is already something else... |
| 20:42.51 | wps | jbot, macnewbold is also smarter than Ken Jennings |
| 20:42.53 | jbot | okay, wps |
| 20:43.25 | macnewbold | aw, shucks |
| 20:43.28 | macnewbold | ~wps++ |
| 20:43.28 | mindjuju | ~macnewbold |
| 20:43.30 | jbot | methinks macnewbold is in da house!, or smarter than Ken Jennings |
| 20:43.35 | macnewbold | ~karma wps++ |
| 20:43.35 | jbot | wps++ has neutral karma |
| 20:43.43 | wps | neutral? |
| 20:43.46 | macnewbold | ~karma wps |
| 20:43.46 | jbot | wps has karma of 8 |
| 20:43.55 | macnewbold | no, I typo'd it |
| 20:43.57 | wps | that's better |
| 20:48.30 | mindjuju | Inspired by wheelbarrow, BIC sells 100 billionth pen -- http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050908/us_nm/retail_pen_dc |
| 21:02.14 | macnewbold | correction: they said to get 1 billion, they averaged 57 pens a second since 1950 |
| 21:02.24 | macnewbold | that's total B.S. |
| 21:02.38 | macnewbold | 1 billion seconds is 31.7 years |
| 21:03.05 | macnewbold | so since 1950, selling 1 billion pens, they've averaged closer to one pen every 2 seconds |
| 21:06.02 | RyanE | maybe they were talking 8 hour days. |
| 21:06.37 | RyanE | still, that'd only be *3 from every 2 seconds, so 1.5 / second? |
| 21:06.55 | RyanE | they're probably using METRIC seconds. :) |
| 21:08.18 | macnewbold | maybe they meant something like 1 billion pens in 57 years of seconds... |
| 21:09.15 | macnewbold | it could almost be 1 pen every 57 seconds, but not really |
| 21:09.25 | macnewbold | they would have passed a billion in 30 years |
| 21:10.06 | RyanE | like i said, METRIC years. :) |
| 21:10.21 | RyanE | stupid Frenchies |
| 21:10.37 | mindjuju | metric years? never heard of that |
| 21:13.10 | macnewbold | Yeah, Metric time... |
| 21:13.21 | macnewbold | 100 seconds in a minute |
| 21:13.25 | macnewbold | 100 minutes in an hour |
| 21:13.29 | macnewbold | 10 hours in a day |
| 21:13.32 | macnewbold | 10 days in a week |
| 21:13.42 | macnewbold | 1000 days in a year |
| 21:13.59 | macnewbold | centuries, millenia, etc. still work the same |
| 21:14.00 | fungus | no, more like all dates and times are in terms of days. |
| 21:14.15 | fungus | 285843.4567 |
| 21:14.17 | mindjuju | now ya'll are making this up |
| 21:14.19 | macnewbold | right, so an hour is a deciday, |
| 21:14.30 | macnewbold | a minute is a milliday |
| 21:14.35 | macnewbold | a second is 10 microdays |
| 21:14.43 | macnewbold | and a year is a kiloday |
| 21:14.55 | macnewbold | ~dict gullible |
| 21:15.01 | fungus | ~calc 60*60*24*365*55*57 |
| 21:15.03 | RyanE | I think *both* are valid and different definitions for metric days. |
| 21:15.15 | macnewbold | right... why standardize if they're both good? |
| 21:15.45 | RyanE | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decimal_time |
| 21:15.53 | RyanE | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metrication |
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| 21:18.03 | mindjuju | http://www.sudftw.com/jackcon.htm |
| 21:20.46 | bradym | i'm working on a system that has user groups, and i'm trying to decide on the best way to modify the group membership. Are there any reasons not to do a simple "delete all group members" SQL then a "add all these members to the group" SQL statement? that would definitely be the easiest way to go.. |
| 21:21.17 | bradym | or am i missing something that would make this a bad idea? |
| 21:24.26 | mindjuju | i'm not sure if i'm understanding your question, bradyn, are you saying that your users' rights are a groupped together in a security access level, like you have a group of admins, and a group of power users and a group of grunt users |
| 21:24.44 | mindjuju | and your wondering what would happen if you delete the membership for the grunt users group? |
| 21:25.41 | bradym | basically, yes... i have a user_groups table that has user_id & group_id -- I'm making a management page where i can manage the users and I've come up with two ways to do the code... |
| 21:26.10 | bradym | 1 - Delete everyone in that group, then re-enter everyone (very easy with generated SQL code & foreach loop) |
| 21:26.37 | bradym | 2 - compare list of new group members to old list of members and delete/add as needed (still attempting to figure out how to do this) |
| 21:26.57 | mindjuju | k, so since your asking this question, i'm assuming you didn't write the code, is the code something that was created privately or something that was created by open source |
| 21:27.00 | mindjuju | the reason i ask is this |
| 21:27.13 | bradym | i'm attempting to write the code now :) |
| 21:27.53 | bradym | i have it working properly with method number 1, but something about doing it that way doesn't sit well with me |
| 21:27.53 | mindjuju | that table probably has relations all over the place, i'd hate to have you go and kill a table that appears insignificant and later find out another table or code on some auxillary page depended on that table |
| 21:28.20 | mindjuju | does that make since? |
| 21:28.29 | mindjuju | s/since/sense |
| 21:28.59 | bradym | yeah, i'm not deleting the entire table, just records from the table - and it's something i'm writing basically from scratch so... |
| 21:31.11 | mindjuju | sorry, was going back and rereading everything |
| 21:31.13 | mindjuju | i'm confused |
| 21:31.19 | bradym | i was afraid of that... |
| 21:31.26 | bradym | one sec |
| 21:31.33 | mindjuju | let say that you have user Pepe Lepue and he is a power user |
| 21:31.48 | mindjuju | so you would remove Pepe and then re add as a power user again? |
| 21:32.52 | mindjuju | or are you saying your not sure if Pepe is a power user or not but you defininantly want him to be power user now and so you remove it to update it? |
| 21:35.13 | macnewbold | bradym: comparing the lists is probably best... |
| 21:35.35 | macnewbold | an easy way is to do an array_diff() - one will tell you who should be deleted |
| 21:35.42 | macnewbold | and another will tell you who should be added |
| 21:35.50 | macnewbold | (in other words, put your user lists into arrays) |
| 21:36.02 | macnewbold | if you know who should be added/deleted, you can just run the queries on them. |
| 21:37.58 | bradym | ok.. so say i have two arrays - currentGroupMembers (all group members before making changes) and newGroupMembers (all group members after making changes) - what i can't wrap my head around is if i need to add some people to the group, and remove some at the same time - how do i do that? can i just run array_diff with the parameters in reverse order or something? |
| 21:40.47 | bradym | ok... reading the manual, it appears that i can do exactly that... |
| 21:40.56 | macnewbold | yes |
| 21:41.51 | mindjuju | BYU Named Nation's Fittest College Campus - http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050908/ap_on_he_me/fittest_colleges |
| 21:46.41 | fungus | that is only because the kids pre-drinking age (the biggest binge drinkers) are shipped off to another place and watched like a hawk. |
| 21:47.20 | bradym | and because i'm not there ;) |
| 21:48.00 | bradym | btw - thanks mac, array_diff should do exactly what i was needing :) |
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