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| 02:22.58 | bigdog_ut | evenin all |
| 02:23.09 | mindjuju | yo |
| 02:23.20 | bigdog_ut | hows it going |
| 02:23.34 | mindjuju | not too shabby, u? |
| 02:23.50 | bigdog_ut | just workin |
| 02:28.49 | diskotec | at work or at home? |
| 02:29.47 | bigdog_ut | home now |
| 02:31.15 | bigdog_ut | mindjuju, what music you got? |
| 02:31.19 | bigdog_ut | anything good |
| 02:31.41 | diskotec | oh ok...I'm going to try and setup that linux box at work sometime next week...maybe you could help me then? I'm in North Carolina right now for the rest of the week for SQL training. |
| 02:31.42 | mindjuju | actually watching lethal weapon 2 |
| 02:32.11 | bigdog_ut | diskotec, that is cool if i am around...usually in the evening |
| 02:32.22 | diskotec | ok...thats cool. |
| 02:32.33 | diskotec | I have to work later hours next week anyway |
| 02:32.52 | diskotec | thanks |
| 02:33.01 | bigdog_ut | np |
| 02:34.45 | bigdog_ut | mindjuju, any new musik for me? |
| 02:35.07 | mindjuju | that DJ Budda is pretty good |
| 02:35.11 | mindjuju | keep you going for hours |
| 02:35.21 | bigdog_ut | lol...not techno |
| 02:57.32 | bigdog_ut | mindjuju, that must be a good movie |
| 02:57.51 | mindjuju | yup |
| 02:58.00 | mindjuju | have it memorized so i can code without really watching |
| 02:58.05 | bigdog_ut | no body listens to the bigdog |
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| 03:27.51 | bigdog_ut | mindjuju, what did you do about decrypt with gpg? |
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| 15:54.25 | cycokilr | hey, what's the name of that computer parts place on the north end of salt lake? (not ebc) |
| 16:09.21 | macnewbold | north end of SLC? I'm not sure I know which one you're talking about |
| 16:09.34 | macnewbold | EBC and LSMicro were the two I used most, and LSMicro went south |
| 16:09.53 | macnewbold | (I heard LSMicro went under because they got caught pirating MS Windows) |
| 16:10.08 | wps | there's still an LS Micro in Orem |
| 16:10.16 | macnewbold | really?!? |
| 16:10.24 | wps | yeah |
| 16:10.31 | macnewbold | lsmicro.com is down though, now, isn't it? |
| 16:10.39 | wps | at least there is a sign on the site of the road with that name on it |
| 16:10.50 | wps | s/site/side |
| 16:13.47 | macnewbold | hm |
| 16:15.44 | macnewbold | Any of you seen this? http://www.ecost.com/ecost/shop/detail.asp?DPNo=194280 |
| 16:15.49 | macnewbold | I'd never heard of a Wireless DVD player before... |
| 16:15.56 | macnewbold | it's got a PCMCIA slot, and will let you browse your home network with the remote... |
| 16:16.05 | macnewbold | for $89, I was surprised |
| 17:04.40 | dataw0lf | EBC is pure evil |
| 17:04.43 | dataw0lf | or so I'm told |
| 17:06.42 | fungus | EBC isn't evil. They are just the Wal-Mart of PC parts. |
| 17:07.52 | dataw0lf | Wal-Mart is evil. |
| 17:08.38 | dataw0lf | kryp71k|w: you can stop messaging my phone, you tard. I'm in now. |
| 17:08.56 | kryp71k|w | HOO-RAH!!! |
| 17:09.34 | dataw0lf | don't act like a jarhead, now. |
| 17:10.51 | macnewbold | hehe |
| 17:15.16 | mindjuju | i don't think walmart is evil... i mean just because 4 members of the family are on Forbes' richest in the US (the 5th died recently in airplane crash) |
| 17:16.52 | dataw0lf | I'm not talking about how rich they are, directly anyways. |
| 17:17.04 | dataw0lf | I'm talking about their complete and utter lack of any business morals whatsoever. |
| 17:17.09 | dataw0lf | I certainly don't shop there. |
| 17:17.40 | dataw0lf | I think Wal-Mart is probably the de facto shopping center in Hell. |
| 17:17.56 | dataw0lf | not to mention the.... culture....Wal-Mart attracts. |
| 17:18.01 | mindjuju | is that the monopolistic side, or the lets pay our workers as little as possible side |
| 17:19.35 | kryp71k|w | it's the "I can't believe it's not butter" side :D |
| 17:20.18 | dataw0lf | mindjuju: both. |
| 17:20.23 | dataw0lf | their worker care is terrible. |
| 17:21.32 | mindjuju | well, truth told, i agree on those points, they are monopolistic, knocking out mom and pop shops, local supermarkets, etc and i used to work there and they pay like .50 cents over minimum wage |
| 17:21.49 | dataw0lf | that's just the crust. |
| 17:21.51 | mindjuju | on the other hand, in the global market place, i'm not sure if we can do without wal mart |
| 17:22.12 | dataw0lf | we can have something similar to walmart. |
| 17:22.20 | dataw0lf | that doesn't have a negative effect on, let's see: |
| 17:22.25 | dataw0lf | agriculture |
| 17:22.33 | dataw0lf | international plants |
| 17:22.37 | dataw0lf | industry wages |
| 17:22.46 | dataw0lf | small-business ownership |
| 17:22.46 | dataw0lf | etc |
| 17:22.49 | macnewbold | aren't agriculture and international plants the same thing? |
| 17:22.56 | dataw0lf | wit! |
| 17:22.57 | RyanE | I didn't realize it was already "let's discuss Wal-Mart day" again. Seems like it was only a few days ago, but I guess it *has* been a month... |
| 17:22.57 | macnewbold | ;) |
| 17:23.17 | macnewbold | ~dwhit dataw0lf |
| 17:23.17 | jbot | ACTION slaps the diviner's tin avalanche on dataw0lf |
| 17:23.22 | mindjuju | did we talk about walmart a few days ago? |
| 17:23.35 | dataw0lf | I dunno, I've been really busy |
| 17:23.40 | dataw0lf | ~dhit macnewbold |
| 17:23.40 | jbot | ACTION manages to land Gentoo Install Time on macnewbold, freezing him for days |
| 17:23.50 | RyanE | naw, but we did a month ago... it just SEEMS like a few days ago... |
| 17:24.19 | dataw0lf | I have something we could talk about. |
| 17:24.24 | dataw0lf | this might come as a surprise to some of you |
| 17:24.25 | dataw0lf | PHP! |
| 17:24.32 | dataw0lf | woot woot |
| 17:24.44 | dataw0lf | and, in closing, heredocs pwn you. |
| 17:24.48 | dataw0lf | Thank you for your time. |
| 17:24.55 | synic | nope, they are lame. |
| 17:26.05 | synic | seriously. |
| 17:28.36 | dataw0lf | Everyone boo the professional Perl programmer |
| 17:28.38 | dataw0lf | BOOO! |
| 17:28.51 | dataw0lf | like you'd know good techniques if they hit you in your head, synic. pshaw. |
| 17:29.02 | dataw0lf | see? |
| 17:29.03 | synic | heredocs should be banned. |
| 17:29.07 | dataw0lf | you should be banned. |
| 17:29.43 | synic | one good way to make your code hard to read. |
| 17:29.52 | dataw0lf | Now I'm scared to jump on the CJ network in fear of retribution from synic. |
| 17:29.59 | macnewbold | huh? |
| 17:30.05 | macnewbold | heredocs rock! |
| 17:30.11 | dataw0lf | synic: what're you talking about? |
| 17:30.12 | synic | what do they rock for? |
| 17:30.20 | macnewbold | cause they're great |
| 17:30.20 | synic | what purpose do they serve? |
| 17:30.23 | dataw0lf | anything that's more than a couple lines. |
| 17:30.32 | synic | anything that's more than a couple lines should be in a template. |
| 17:30.38 | macnewbold | it's the best way to embed blocks of html that are more than two lines in a PHP script |
| 17:30.49 | synic | see? there's the keyword: embed |
| 17:30.49 | macnewbold | cause they interpolate variables, don't need any quote escaping, |
| 17:30.52 | macnewbold | and are easy to read |
| 17:31.07 | macnewbold | flipping in and out of php mode all the time annoys the heck out of me |
| 17:31.16 | dataw0lf | me too. |
| 17:31.23 | synic | that's what templating systems are for |
| 17:31.35 | macnewbold | and i hate even more when I have to flip through a bajillion files to make a single script |
| 17:31.40 | macnewbold | like you have to with templating systems |
| 17:31.46 | macnewbold | :-p |
| 17:31.50 | dataw0lf | :-) |
| 17:31.54 | synic | I have even more when there's html all over in your php |
| 17:31.59 | synic | or visa versa |
| 17:32.02 | macnewbold | that's what PHP is _for_! |
| 17:32.08 | macnewbold | for crying out loud... |
| 17:32.10 | synic | that's what php is gay for. |
| 17:32.22 | macnewbold | next thing you know, you'll be crying about MVC or Smarty or something... |
| 17:32.24 | RyanE | You got your *chocolate* in my *peanut butter*! |
| 17:32.24 | dataw0lf | PHP isn't the best programming language design wise. |
| 17:32.37 | dataw0lf | It's the best option available though. |
| 17:32.40 | macnewbold | but it works very well for its intended purpose(s) |
| 17:32.56 | dataw0lf | It's only the best option, however, if you actually understand what you're doing. |
| 17:32.59 | synic | macnewbold: I'm not crying about any templating system in particular... but I will say that they should be separate |
| 17:32.59 | dataw0lf | Which synic never does. |
| 17:33.01 | macnewbold | synic quote: "I just had my entire INTESTINAL TRACT coated with TEFLON!" |
| 17:33.14 | jsmith | I also works quite well for non-intended purposes... :-) |
| 17:33.16 | macnewbold | and I say they can be in the same file, and still be separate enough |
| 17:33.29 | macnewbold | Hmmm... a PINHEAD, during an EARTHQUAKE, encounters an ALL-MIDGET FIDDLE |
| 17:33.29 | macnewbold | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:33.46 | dataw0lf | we're still making fun of synic, right?!? |
| 17:33.48 | dataw0lf | :) |
| 17:33.57 | dataw0lf | anyways. |
| 17:34.00 | synic | psh. heredocs are still gay :P |
| 17:34.01 | dataw0lf | Python Uber Alles! |
| 17:34.16 | dataw0lf | synic: Perl coder. |
| 17:34.30 | synic | D-Ren lover. |
| 17:34.50 | synic | haha. |
| 17:35.08 | synic | I win. Next song. |
| 17:35.19 | dataw0lf | ok.... Ruby sux0rz! |
| 17:35.31 | synic | blah blah... |
| 17:35.32 | dataw0lf | Just admit it, Python is better. |
| 17:35.37 | dataw0lf | C'mon, just admit it. |
| 17:35.47 | synic | I wouldn't know, I haven't used it for anything yet. |
| 17:36.19 | synic | brb, restroom. |
| 17:40.12 | dataw0lf | macnewbold: got any idea how many have RSVPed for the BBQ ? |
| 17:46.26 | macnewbold | yeah, one sec, dataw0lf |
| 17:46.36 | dataw0lf | word |
| 17:46.54 | macnewbold | 7 members have RSVP'd so far |
| 17:47.05 | dataw0lf | who's dem? |
| 17:47.07 | macnewbold | (one of you slap tierra when you see him, he hasn't rsvp'd yet even) |
| 17:47.16 | dataw0lf | noted. |
| 17:47.26 | dataw0lf | kryp71k|w is coming too, so put him down. |
| 17:47.31 | macnewbold | with guests, 16.5 people planning on attending |
| 17:47.50 | dataw0lf | and synic and xilch|w I should be able to make them go. |
| 17:48.06 | macnewbold | yeah |
| 17:48.32 | dataw0lf | and com4, maybe eco too, since we have to talk about IF and it's on a Friday so they might as well come to a geek barbeque. |
| 17:48.42 | macnewbold | nice |
| 17:48.49 | dataw0lf | yar |
| 17:48.54 | dataw0lf | so who's operating the grill? |
| 17:49.05 | macnewbold | I'm not sure what tierra has planned |
| 17:49.20 | macnewbold | they have built-in grills there, I think, but they'll need fuel and stuff |
| 17:49.40 | kryp71k|w | whenz iz dis? |
| 17:49.54 | macnewbold | I'm pretty handy with a bottle of lighter fluid, but I'd be more than happy if someone else ran the grill |
| 17:50.14 | kryp71k|w | I'll cook if ya want me too... it's in my blood! :D |
| 17:50.19 | kryp71k|w | *to |
| 17:50.23 | macnewbold | Next activity: BBQ, Friday 12 Aug @ 7pm |
| 17:50.33 | macnewbold | @ Fairmont park, 2351 S 900 E SLC |
| 17:51.13 | dataw0lf | you're not touching the bbq kryp71k|w |
| 17:51.26 | dataw0lf | I'll do some meat. |
| 17:51.26 | kryp71k|w | pshh.. |
| 17:51.29 | dataw0lf | see what I can scrounge up |
| 17:52.38 | kryp71k|w | I'll touch whatever I want ... as you well know :D |
| 17:56.16 | dataw0lf | *sigh* |
| 17:56.20 | dataw0lf | Ok, so who here likes ribs? |
| 17:56.22 | dataw0lf | I can do ribs |
| 17:56.25 | dataw0lf | or I can do chicken. |
| 17:56.39 | dataw0lf | well, I can do just about anything on a grill, but those seem the most appropriate. |
| 17:56.44 | dataw0lf | I don't gots the money to feed everyone steak. |
| 17:57.41 | com4 | don't give me that |
| 17:57.44 | com4 | III know how much you make |
| 17:58.11 | RyanE | is it not bring your own meat? |
| 17:58.29 | dataw0lf | sure, you can bring your own meat, but I was thinking I'd treat everyone to some ribs. |
| 17:58.34 | dataw0lf | I am the grill master. |
| 17:58.39 | dataw0lf | com4: psh, not THAT much. |
| 17:59.38 | dataw0lf | I made my burgers for tierra and co. before, and that's my worst grilling type of meat. |
| 18:00.10 | dataw0lf | let me go on some chickenz, ribs, or steak, and it's ovah. |
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| 20:13.10 | xilch|w_ | dataw0lf: don't forget to bring your board to the bbq, as there is the park that we can suck on |
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| 20:15.23 | xilch|w_ | macnewbold, dataw0lf : I just remembered, I will be in Brigham City that night babysitting kinfolk |
| 20:17.11 | macnewbold | xilch|w_: you've got kinfolk in Brigham City? |
| 20:17.15 | macnewbold | who are you, anyway? |
| 20:17.35 | dataw0lf | he's a loser |
| 20:17.38 | macnewbold | now you're going to be the butt of some ugly jokes, i'm sure |
| 20:18.07 | dataw0lf | he's synic's boss too. I'm not sure which is worse. |
| 20:42.00 | xilch|w_ | it's cumulative, because I have brigham kin AND have to work with synic |
| 20:42.21 | xilch|w_ | add that to the fact that I associate with dataw0lf, and my life is truly miserable |
| 20:44.35 | dataw0lf | well I never! |
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| 21:07.53 | xilch|w | man, our serbar is on it's knees crying |
| 21:08.09 | xilch|w | synic bzipped a 3 gig log file at my behest |
| 21:08.28 | xilch|w | and so I have driven it into nonresponse |
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| 21:13.12 | xilch|w | and now our uptime is below 1 minute |
| 21:14.12 | dataw0lf | .... |
| 21:14.15 | dataw0lf | yeah, it would be. |
| 21:14.21 | dataw0lf | bzip2 compression be arocking |
| 21:14.30 | dataw0lf | if you got the CPU and time to aspend |
| 21:14.35 | dataw0lf | which most people don't. |
| 21:14.38 | dataw0lf | so that's why we use gzip |
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| 21:20.25 | xilch|w | dataw0lf: turns out, someone hit our power switch |
| 21:20.49 | xilch|w | so I am investing in a 1u case face lock |
| 21:35.21 | macnewbold | hehe |
| 21:35.25 | macnewbold | so who hit your power switch? |
| 21:35.43 | macnewbold | that reminds me of the time some dork pulled the plug on our server, in XMissions data center |
| 21:36.04 | macnewbold | his box had two cords, he pulled three, and only plugged two back in, not including ours |
| 21:36.16 | macnewbold | took over 30 minutes for XM staff to find out what happened |
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| 22:37.02 | tierra | xilch|w, things cooling down a little at work yet? |
| 22:47.41 | synic | heh, not really. |
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| 23:14.10 | xilch|w | tierra: things are still way too hectic - we got most of the existing problems taken care of, but lots of other stuff out of our control busted today |