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00:17.00mindjujui've got a form i'm looking to jazz up a little in both layout and in appearance.  anybody seen any websites that jazz up their forms?
00:26.08mindjujuwow, that's like the 3rd school of design specializing in web that is using tables for layout and all forms look drab
00:26.29mindjujui need something popping fresh -- spicy
00:39.39mindjujuholy smokes! br has an end tag???
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03:59.10el_gauchoevenin all
04:02.33RyanEevening
04:07.50el_gauchou always awake now
04:10.08RyanEusually
04:10.28RyanEI'm usually late to bed, somewhat early to rise.
04:34.49el_gauchosame here
04:35.09el_gauchoi got tons of work to do
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14:32.51mindjujuWOW!  what an action packed day!
14:33.45mindjujui usually read the news in the morning to get a grasp on what is happening, today there are like 10 articles to read
14:33.57mindjujuincluding "Novell Goes for SCO's Throat"
14:33.58mindjujuhttp://news.yahoo.com/s/zd/20050729/tc_zd/157047
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14:44.55diskotec|wgood article.
14:45.09mindjujuyeah, i try to keep up to date on that topic
14:45.13mindjujuit's really interesting
14:45.54mindjujuHave you seen the whole thing explained with the Dukes of Hazzard?
14:46.09mindjujuIf not, read here
14:46.10mindjujuhttp://www.arie.org/doh/
14:46.30mindjujuclick link that says begin
14:46.44diskotec|woh man....someone had too much time on their hands
14:46.52diskotec|wfunny
14:46.57mindjujuyeah, it's hiarlious
14:55.14mindjujui wonder how dataw0lf is doing?
14:55.15mindjujuhttp://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050802/ap_on_hi_te/hacker_conference
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14:56.19mindjujumac to offer 2 button clicking!
14:56.19mindjujuhttp://www.apple.com/mightymouse/#mouse
14:57.03dataw0lfmindjuju: pretty good.
14:57.08dataw0lfback from DC.
14:57.28mindjujuoh!  i thought it was week long?
14:58.11dataw0lfnope, just the weekend.
14:58.20mindjujuso what up with this Cisco vuln that everybody at the ISS got pissed about?
14:58.22dataw0lfFriday, Saturday, and Sunday..
14:58.56dataw0lfLynn decided to go through with it at BH and present on it.
14:59.03dataw0lfhttp://geeksyndicate.net/gallery/dc13
14:59.46mindjujudid you win the arm wrestle?
15:00.05dataw0lfof course.
15:01.25dataw0lfanybody have a favorite cell phone from Verizon they use?
15:05.29mindjujukevin mitnick was there?
15:05.48mindjujuwasn't his avenue more of social engineering than straight up hacks?
15:06.02dataw0lfhe's an idiot, but yeah.
15:07.44mindjujuso did they give you pdfs of everybody's speech?
15:08.05dataw0lfyeah.
15:08.05mindjujuand what up with ATMs?
15:08.13mindjujui didn't know they were for sale on eBay!!!
15:08.21mindjujuand I used to work at the 'bay
15:08.41mindjujui called the wife to tell her to lay off all ATMS unless inside the bank
15:09.56diskotec|whow long does it take Ubuntu to ship cd's?  On dial up at home and don't have a cd burner here at work.
15:10.46dataw0lfI heard that Ubuntu distro sucks.
15:11.21diskotec|wnah...just their shipping dept.
15:11.54mindjujuis it just an ISO download?
15:12.05mindjujuif your near draper, i can get it and burn a copy for you
15:12.14diskotec|wno...im in colorado
15:12.46dataw0lfdiskotec|w: just use Gentoo, it's much better.
15:13.29diskotec|wok... is that bigdog_ut hiding under that dataw0lf name.
15:13.36RyanEmindjuju: where do you work in Draper?
15:13.53RyanEbigdog is on timeout from daytime IRC.
15:13.57mindjujuBill Good Marketing
15:14.14RyanEoh yeah, we had the meeting there once, right?
15:14.19mindjujuyup
15:14.21dataw0lfdiskotec|w: nah, he's not allowed on the internets anymore, so I have to argue his points too.
15:14.34dataw0lfUbuntu / Debian > * !
15:14.36diskotec|woh ok
15:14.40dataw0lfNo, no, Gento > * !
15:14.47dataw0lfs/Gento/Gentoo
15:15.02diskotec|wI've already tried gentoo.....not going to install it using a dialup
15:15.15dataw0lfwhat're you using it for?
15:15.20dataw0lfdesktop/workstation use?
15:15.46diskotec|wyes....desktop workstation/php/apache test
15:15.48macnewboldbtw, dataw0lf - I've got a verizon phone - I like the service, but the phone could be better (it's getting old) - their new camera phones (two for $50 currently) look good though
15:16.58diskotec|wwhen does bigdog show up now that he got written up for being on it at work?
15:17.11mindjujuhe got written up?!?
15:17.19diskotec|wyeah
15:17.19mindjujufor IRC?
15:17.24diskotec|woh i don't know
15:17.41diskotec|wi saw the post where he said he got written up....not sure if it was for irc
15:17.57diskotec|wguess I shouldn't have assumed
15:18.27mindjujuit's the angle, you've got to say the angle .  I went up and told the owner and the deputy chairmain that the IRC had a security expert, several coding experts, an expert graphic designer
15:18.33diskotec|wbut he can't be on it now....so I assumed being on irc was part of it.
15:18.58mindjujuand I could ask my questions and get quick answers
15:18.58RyanEit was *part* of it.
15:19.18diskotec|wmindjuju: yeah
15:19.46RyanEthe main gist of it is that the people he works for (and their I.S. trolls) are dicks.
15:20.05mindjujuthat really sux
15:21.26RyanEyep
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17:01.39fungusMighty Mouse is here to save the day!
17:01.40fungushttp://www.apple.com/mightymouse/
17:04.26dataw0lfhey, good job guys!
17:04.42dataw0lfa multiple button (kinda) mouse
17:04.48dataw0lfApple is really moving along.
17:04.50jsmithIt's too bad IBM or Logitech or somebody smart didn't patent the right mouse button.
17:04.59jsmithOr maybe it was Dexxa that invented it...
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17:06.05jsmithdataw0lf: Yeah, but does it giggle if you squeeze it?
17:06.51jsmithNow, instead of explaining to morons how to open-apple-click, we can teach them how to "right squeeze" the mouse...
17:09.20dataw0lfhaha
17:09.24RyanE"yeah, just give it the right squeeze, dude"
17:09.25dataw0lfexcellent point.
17:13.44jsmithThe average mac user has gone from a bumbling idiot (Who needs to learn DOS?) to a power tweaker.
17:35.07dataw0lfhttp://www.clothedandy.com/Writings/IE%207%20Beta%201/
17:40.09tr0gd0rrthat mouse is hilarious, but i do hope the start to put touchpoints on mice instead of scrollwheels
17:40.46tr0gd0rri used an ibm mouse with a touchpoint for a scrollwheel about 5 years ago.  It was so nice because you can control the speed of the scrolling and you don't have to flick the wheel.
17:40.53dataw0lfTROGDOR!
17:41.06dataw0lfahem
17:41.08dataw0lfI won't start.
17:42.47tr0gd0rrlol. dataw0lf needs his own channel to sing the trogdor song.
18:21.13gthornock~trogdir
18:21.17gthornock~trogdor
18:21.17jbotsomebody said trogdor was trogdor, from the 'dragon' email by Strongbad of Homestar Runner fame
18:22.32dataw0lfTROGDOR!!
18:22.43dataw0lfTrogdor was a man!
18:22.47dataw0lfI mean, he was a dragon-man!
18:22.55dataw0lfOr, maybe he was just a dragon!
18:23.00dataw0lfUm...
18:23.04dataw0lfBut he was still...
18:23.06dataw0lfTROGDOR!!!
18:23.12dataw0lfTROGDOR!!
18:23.19dataw0lfBurninating the countryside!
18:23.25dataw0lfBurninating the peasants!
18:23.32dataw0lfBurninating all the people!!
18:23.41dataw0lfIn their THATCHED ROOF COTTAGES!!
18:23.47dataw0lfTHATCHED ROOF COTTAGES!!
18:23.59dataw0lfAnd the Trogdor comes in the NIIIIIIGHHHHHHHHHT!
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22:17.58macnewbold~burninate
22:18.05macnewbold~burninate dataw0lf
22:18.05jbotACTION burninates dataw0lf and thrashes him soundly with Trogdor's meat arm.
22:18.16dataw0lfhawt
22:18.52macnewbolds'right
22:19.06macnewboldit gets quite hawt when you're burninated
22:19.22macnewbold~burninate mindjuju_
22:19.22jbotACTION burninates mindjuju_ and thrashes him soundly with Trogdor's meat arm.
22:19.54macnewbold~frenchtaunt mindjuju_
22:19.55jbotACTION summons the french taunter!   You tiny-brained wipers of other people's bottoms!
22:20.06macnewbold~wake mindjuju_
22:20.06jbotmindjuju_: GOOD MORNING!!!
22:20.12macnewboldhe must be asleep at the wheel today
22:26.15mindjuju_sorry, had to shut down some goon who thought it would be keen to transfer sensative corporate data to his personal FTP spot to make life easier
22:26.29mindjuju_he wasn't being malicious just didn't undertstand the security aspects
22:27.02jsmithFire! Fire!
22:27.09jsmithThat'd teach him.
22:27.14dataw0lfHE'S A RUSSIAN SPY!
22:27.16jsmith(You can always rehire him the next day)
22:27.19dataw0lfKILL HIM.
22:28.18mindjuju_yup, i wrote an email to IT management, counsel, his manager, his supervisor and him
22:28.39mindjuju_nuts = oblivion
22:28.44mindjuju_but i was tactiful about it
22:31.48mindjuju_k, i got an old box from IT and am going to install Vista (the new microsoft OS) on it which will have IE 7.  so... if your like me and 98% of your corporate client is IE, and you want to see what your site looks like in IE 7 beta, send me your URL and the desired screen resolution and I'll screen shot and email back to you
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