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| 02:47.57 | bigdog_ut | evenin all |
| 02:55.48 | RyanE | evening. |
| 02:56.04 | RyanE | gotta get in your IRC tonight in prep for your workweek? :) |
| 03:09.53 | bigdog_ut | yeah no doubt |
| 03:10.00 | bigdog_ut | since i got written up about it all |
| 03:10.07 | bigdog_ut | stupid job |
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| 14:03.23 | macnewbold | sounds like bigdog_ut won't be around much anymore :( |
| 14:08.11 | jsmith | That's too bad... I enjoyed chatting with him |
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| 14:13.29 | *** topic/#uphpu is Next meeting: BBQ, Friday Aug. 12, 7pm | Utah PHP User Group | http://www.uphpu.org |
| 14:24.33 | macnewbold | ~welcome jbot |
| 14:24.33 | jbot | Howdy, jbot! |
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| 16:22.19 | mindjuju | lets see how long i last without techno |
| 16:34.36 | diskotec|w | "nobody listens to techno" == Eminem |
| 16:34.41 | diskotec|w | hehe |
| 16:35.03 | mindjuju | didn't he just cut his last album? |
| 16:35.09 | diskotec|w | don't know |
| 16:35.27 | diskotec|w | don't really keep up with him. |
| 16:35.49 | diskotec|w | just remembered that line from one of the FEW songs I like that he does. |
| 16:36.00 | mindjuju | yeah same here. heard commentary on vh1 though, that i thought mentioned this album, Encore, was his last, he's now going to manage rappers |
| 16:36.33 | diskotec|w | thats cool...I guess. |
| 16:37.46 | diskotec|w | is he still going to do new material himself? |
| 16:38.08 | mindjuju | nope, it is thought that encore is going to be his last |
| 16:38.17 | diskotec|w | oh ... ok |
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| 17:58.58 | wps | is there a way to do an ls in the terminal with only the filenames, but not multicolumn? |
| 18:12.20 | diskotec|w | ls -al ? |
| 18:12.44 | macnewbold | wps: /bin/ls -1 |
| 18:12.49 | macnewbold | (one, not ell) |
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| 18:44.12 | synic | http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2005/07/29/445242.aspx <-- woot. |
| 18:46.28 | mindjuju | that is good news! |
| 18:46.35 | synic | indeed |
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| 19:34.39 | wps | most isn't true, mindjuju |
| 19:34.41 | wps | see: http://mezzoblue.com/archives/2005/07/28/ie7_css_upda/ |
| 19:34.46 | wps | thanks, macnewbold |
| 19:36.19 | mindjuju | well that's cool that it comes in Vista, i just downloaded Vista yesterday, but haven't had a chance to install it yet |
| 19:36.43 | wps | is it available for anyone to download or do you have to be registered beta tester? |
| 19:36.58 | mindjuju | it's actually only available to MSDN subscribers |
| 19:37.13 | wps | well, it'd better come in Vista. Vista is still over a year away |
| 19:37.16 | mindjuju | I can install and snapshot websites if anybody is interested |
| 19:37.56 | mindjuju | so you'd see what your site would look like in IE7 beta1 |
| 19:38.30 | mindjuju | haven't really had a chance to look much into vista -- working on removing position:absolute since you said to lay off that convention unless necessary |
| 19:40.19 | synic | mindjuju: sure |
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| 19:43.22 | mindjuju | let me see if the IT managers have an old box laying around -- i can install it while I code the CSS. Then, all ya'll would need to do is send me the URL you want viewed and the resolution size you want the monitor to be, i can screenshot and email back |
| 19:47.42 | mindjuju | so, wps, is setting up margins to squeeze a div into the place i want it - just as bad as putting position:absolute? |
| 19:49.06 | mindjuju | so let's say I have a div square that is 100x100px, let's further say that i have a div in that div that i want on the bottom, for the inside div, could i put margin-top:80px; margin-right:5px; float:right; |
| 19:49.09 | mindjuju | or is that bad? |
| 19:49.25 | wps | that's what margins are for |
| 19:49.34 | mindjuju | yeah! i'm doing it right! |
| 19:53.00 | macnewbold | anyone here know mssql? |
| 19:53.09 | macnewbold | in particular, TOP vs LIMIT? |
| 19:54.02 | mindjuju | i can send you what it says in the manual |
| 19:54.28 | mindjuju | what's your email addy? |
| 19:55.28 | mindjuju | oh wait, there is no limit |
| 19:55.39 | mindjuju | there is top that brings the top X results |
| 19:55.43 | mindjuju | or there is rowcount |
| 19:57.45 | macnewbold | how do I get it to start at line number N |
| 19:57.49 | macnewbold | (different than TOP N) |
| 20:01.31 | mindjuju | ugh-- your not going to be happy |
| 20:01.36 | mindjuju | http://josephlindsay.com/archives/2005/05/27/paging-results-in-ms-sql-server/ |
| 20:01.48 | jsmith | It's ugly... |
| 20:02.07 | mindjuju | i checked books online and it didn't have any function that described that desired effect, so i googled mssql pagination |
| 20:02.07 | jsmith | What's worse is trying to grab a section of rows out of the middle of a large resultset. |
| 20:02.47 | jsmith | At least with SQL Server 2000, we ended up using TOP, reversing the results, and doing TOP again. |
| 20:03.14 | jsmith | Or, just write yourself a stored procedure with cursors -- that's probably the "right" way to do it... |
| 20:20.01 | mindjuju | since mac hasn't responded, i'm taking that as a sign that he has passed out or had to be carted to the hospital |
| 20:20.03 | mindjuju | :( |
| 20:20.28 | macnewbold | sorry |
| 20:20.35 | macnewbold | went to grab lunch |
| 20:21.12 | macnewbold | but if that's the best way to do it in mssql, I think I may puke |
| 20:21.26 | macnewbold | how do db abstraction layers do it with a mssql backend? |
| 20:22.08 | macnewbold | (maybe we should call it a mssql rear end instead) |
| 20:22.33 | jsmith | Good question... go diving through the ADOdb code and find out :-) |
| 20:25.38 | macnewbold | though adodb might not be too bad |
| 20:29.29 | macnewbold | anyone in here ever mess with using javascript to artificially extend the life of a session? |
| 20:29.50 | macnewbold | i.e. hit a URL (image or something) with javascript every 20 minutes, so the 30-minute session expire never comes? |
| 20:30.27 | mindjuju | couldn't you do that with an iframe and a javascript? |
| 20:30.40 | macnewbold | maybe, but I'm not going to use iframs |
| 20:30.40 | mindjuju | yuck, though, hmmm |
| 20:31.06 | macnewbold | you know how you use javascript to preload an image? something like that |
| 20:31.20 | macnewbold | just hit an url on the server, solely for the purpose of a session keepalive |
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| 21:49.35 | Ruis | does anyone know how to view custom HTTP headers sent FROM a user agent? |
| 21:58.17 | macnewbold | Ruis: I usually use tcpdump, |
| 21:58.22 | macnewbold | but I'm sure there are other ways |
| 21:58.28 | macnewbold | what header(s) in particular do you care about? |
| 21:58.38 | macnewbold | some of them come through in the environment variables into php |
| 21:58.40 | Ruis | yeah, that's how I'm doing it to make sure it's working, but would really like to get that info into php |
| 21:59.02 | Ruis | this one is a custom header, so it won't be in the usual $_SERVER var. |
| 22:04.46 | Ruis | sweet! I found it! http://us2.php.net/manual/en/function.apache-request-headers.php |
| 22:05.15 | macnewbold | rius: http://simon.incutio.com/archive/2003/08/18/atomAPI |
| 22:05.21 | macnewbold | that one discusses it too |
| 22:11.01 | macnewbold | http://us2.php.net/manual/en/function.getallheaders.php |
| 22:12.19 | Ruis | getallheaders is an alias to apache_request_headers |
| 22:12.43 | macnewbold | OK, I've just confirmed that PHP (at least from version 4.2.1) can access custom HTTP headers provided they are prefixed with "X-". I've submitted this to the Atom mailing list, with a suggestion that they add this prefix to any custom headers sent by the client. Thanks Daniel :) |
| 22:12.54 | macnewbold | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:13.08 | macnewbold | I haven't tried it, but it looks like any X-* header shows up as |
| 22:13.16 | macnewbold | $_SERVER['HTTP_X_*'] |
| 22:13.27 | macnewbold | without any magic functions, or dependence on apache |
| 22:13.28 | Ruis | huh. i was going to try that, but didn't. |
| 22:13.50 | macnewbold | note that apache_request_headers (and getallheaders) only work when your php is running as an apache module |
| 22:14.05 | macnewbold | So it won't work with CGI PHP, even with apache as the web server |
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