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| 03:26.51 | bigdog_ut | evening all |
| 03:27.02 | mindjuju_ | yo |
| 03:27.03 | cycokilr | kinda quiet tonight.. |
| 03:27.17 | bigdog_ut | it always is quiet during the night |
| 03:27.27 | cycokilr | all that css talk must have worn everyone out.. |
| 03:27.44 | eco|w | I missed out on CSS talk? :( |
| 03:27.55 | mindjuju_ | it sure wore me out |
| 03:28.19 | mindjuju_ | i'm taking a break and decided to read harry potter spoilers. haven't read any of the books, but i sure love a good spoiler |
| 03:29.44 | eco|w | A friend of mine asked another friend to convert a .doc of that new book to an open office openable version. The friend doing the converting naturally did a few interesting Find and Replaces before giving the new version back. |
| 03:30.09 | mindjuju_ | that's awesome! |
| 03:30.20 | eco|w | s/Harry Potter/Harvey Porter being the most obvious. |
| 03:31.00 | mindjuju_ | you could really jack up somebody doing that though... like change the ending a little |
| 03:31.10 | mindjuju_ | put in somebody else's name in the right place |
| 03:32.37 | mindjuju_ | bigdog, we're going to have to find some way to get you to the IRC channel during the day without it being a Firewall / security issue. it's way different without you around |
| 03:32.50 | mindjuju_ | somebody mentioned it today, as a matter of fact |
| 03:37.03 | bigdog_ut | mentioned what? |
| 03:37.43 | mindjuju_ | that they missed ya |
| 03:37.53 | mindjuju_ | [15:37] dataw0lf: where's bigdog_ut at ? |
| 03:37.53 | mindjuju_ | [15:37] dataw0lf: what a shammer. |
| 03:37.53 | mindjuju_ | [15:37] toxs: fire walled in |
| 03:38.00 | mindjuju_ | [15:37] wps: big brother got him |
| 03:38.00 | mindjuju_ | [15:38] dataw0lf: hahaha. |
| 03:38.00 | mindjuju_ | [15:38] dataw0lf: HAHAHAHAHA |
| 03:38.08 | mindjuju_ | [15:38] wps: he was able to tunnel out but they were still monitoring his traffic |
| 03:38.08 | mindjuju_ | [15:38] dataw0lf: hhahahaha that's great. |
| 03:38.08 | mindjuju_ | [15:38] wps: they claim he was trying to hack their firewall from the inside out |
| 03:38.08 | mindjuju_ | [15:39] * dataw0lf rolls his eyes. |
| 03:38.29 | bigdog_ut | lol |
| 03:38.39 | bigdog_ut | yeah dataw0lf is always parting at night |
| 03:39.03 | eco|w | Only on weekends usually |
| 03:39.09 | bigdog_ut | lol |
| 03:39.10 | eco|w | He doesn't have internet at his new place. |
| 03:39.23 | bigdog_ut | oh i thought he was getting cable |
| 03:39.33 | eco|w | Hasn't yet to my knowledge. |
| 03:42.53 | mindjuju_ | i can't even comprehend that anymore... being struck down to dial up speeds? 3 ~ 4 kbps? its not bad for programming cause the web pages are usually small, but you can't download anything |
| 03:46.14 | eco|w | They throttle his bandwidth? |
| 03:46.39 | mindjuju_ | no i mean at home.... i mean surely he has dial up right? |
| 03:53.24 | eco|w | Ah, you mean d-dub. |
| 03:53.39 | eco|w | I thought we were talking about bigdog's firewall problems for some reason. |
| 03:53.53 | eco|w | No, he just goes over to Tierra/Harm's place (who does have cable). |
| 03:54.19 | mindjuju_ | well, that's not so bad |
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| 13:47.09 | dataw0lf | morning |
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| 14:21.20 | kryp71k|w | moring peoples |
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| 16:13.52 | macnewbold | ~seen greygnome |
| 16:13.52 | jbot | i haven't seen 'greygnome', macnewbold |
| 16:13.56 | macnewbold | ~seen graygnome |
| 16:13.56 | jbot | i haven't seen 'graygnome', macnewbold |
| 16:13.59 | macnewbold | hm |
| 16:18.09 | jmul|w | he connected last night at 1:58am and disconnected at 6:48am |
| 16:19.34 | macnewbold | hm |
| 16:19.46 | macnewbold | yeah, it looks like he uploaded the phlyte ogg files |
| 16:20.12 | macnewbold | so if you see him, |
| 16:20.17 | macnewbold | tell him I need to talk to him briefly |
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| 16:35.13 | dataw0lf | one week til DefCon aw jea |
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| 18:09.36 | macnewbold | ~defcon |
| 18:09.39 | macnewbold | where is it this year? |
| 18:10.01 | macnewbold | and is your employer paying for the trip and for your time? |
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| 18:48.51 | bigdog | im back!!! |
| 18:50.17 | Utah_Dav1 | our phone system here at work has a "page al"l feature that we use quite a bit. At least once or twice a day someone pages the whole building to let someone else know they have a call waiting, then the person doing the paging pauses, then says, "Hello". "Hello?" "Hello?" |
| 18:50.36 | Utah_Dav1 | It drives me nuts |
| 18:50.55 | Utah_Dav1 | Nobody called you! You're the one who initiated the page! |
| 18:55.51 | jmul|w | its called a telco feature |
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| 19:02.01 | Utah_Dav1 | sorry for the rant |
| 19:02.54 | dataw0lf | macnewbold: It's in LV every year, and, yeah, I'm getting reimbursed. |
| 19:04.13 | macnewbold | sweet |
| 19:04.20 | macnewbold | getting paid while you're there too? |
| 19:04.36 | dataw0lf | Nah. |
| 19:04.41 | dataw0lf | I could've by using my vacation time, but no way. |
| 19:05.14 | macnewbold | bigdog: welcome back! Are you alternate personalities now? or is bigdog_ut still the real dog? |
| 19:05.16 | macnewbold | ~bigdog |
| 19:05.25 | macnewbold | ~bigdog is see bigdog_ut |
| 19:05.25 | jbot | okay, macnewbold |
| 19:05.28 | macnewbold | ~bigdog |
| 19:05.28 | jbot | hmm... bigdog is see bigdog_ut |
| 19:05.29 | dataw0lf | bigdog: oh, jeez, you're back? |
| 19:05.31 | dataw0lf | darn. |
| 19:05.35 | dataw0lf | we were enjoying ourselves too. |
| 19:05.39 | macnewbold | ~no, bigdog is <reply> see bigdog_ut |
| 19:05.42 | bigdog | bigdog, for now...home is running bigdog_ut |
| 19:05.46 | macnewbold | ~bigdog |
| 19:05.46 | jbot | well, bigdog is see bigdog_ut |
| 19:06.03 | bigdog | im just at working doing my thing |
| 19:06.04 | macnewbold | jbot, no, bigdog is <reply> see bigdog_ut |
| 19:06.04 | jbot | okay, macnewbold |
| 19:06.09 | macnewbold | ~bigdog |
| 19:06.09 | jbot | it has been said that bigdog_ut is Mullet Man, a.k.a. El Perro Loco, or "the gimp", or known as the schwagmeister, or a big meany, or laden, or full of Schmack at times, or the nagios king, or a resident loser, or a mind reader |
| 19:07.03 | macnewbold | so you going to register bigdog and link it to bigdog_ut or what? I can't keep the two straight when you don't get the pretty admin icon by your name... |
| 19:07.28 | bigdog | no actually bigdog is already registered by someone |
| 19:07.39 | bigdog | im suprised i got it...usually i do some like phpguy |
| 19:10.22 | *** topic/#uphpu by macnewbold -> Next meeting: BBQ, Friday Aug. 12, 7pm | Utah PHP User Group | http://www.uphpu.org |
| 19:10.39 | bigdog | so how is everyone |
| 19:10.49 | macnewbold | so did big bro stop watching, or are you just flaunting your skillz again? |
| 19:10.54 | bigdog | i know eco is good...seeing he is the only one really talking at night |
| 19:11.06 | bigdog | flaunting and watching my traffic |
| 19:11.13 | macnewbold | hehe, yeah, the rest of us (besides you two) have lives |
| 19:11.16 | macnewbold | ;) |
| 19:11.28 | macnewbold | you crazy hax0r you |
| 19:12.18 | dataw0lf | omgz bigdog is a hax0r |
| 19:12.31 | bigdog | ssshhhh dont tell anyone |
| 19:13.17 | dataw0lf | OMGZ EVERYONE BIGDOG IS A HAX0R OMGZ |
| 19:13.17 | jmul|w | bigdog: is big bro going to pay your way to defcon? |
| 19:13.18 | jmul|w | heh |
| 19:13.21 | bigdog | no way |
| 19:13.28 | bigdog | i cant get any more training |
| 19:13.30 | dataw0lf | bigdog: you should still go with us. |
| 19:14.13 | bigdog | i wish i had the time |
| 19:14.13 | macnewbold | bigdog the hax0r st0l3d my megahurtz |
| 19:14.13 | dataw0lf | hehe |
| 19:14.39 | dataw0lf | anyone else hear about how they're teaching ebonics in Oakland, California. |
| 19:15.21 | dataw0lf | Like, teaching it in public schools. |
| 19:15.21 | dataw0lf | Am I the only one who finds this insane? |
| 19:15.21 | bigdog | yeah i have...and you can buy the course material too |
| 19:15.21 | jmul|w | ebonics? oh boy |
| 19:15.58 | dataw0lf | I was raised in a neighborhood that... ahem.. the majority of people spoke ebonics profusely. I mean, screw the social connotations, it isn't that hard to learn! |
| 19:16.00 | jmul|w | NAACP probably got that started yo. |
| 19:16.10 | dataw0lf | fo shizzle mah nizzle |
| 19:16.19 | jmul|w | heh |
| 19:16.46 | jmul|w | is snoop dog on the main book covers? |
| 19:17.25 | dataw0lf | hey, now let's not start in on the Snoop. |
| 19:17.42 | dataw0lf | cuz Snoop is one funny guy. |
| 19:18.00 | jmul|w | yeah he is |
| 19:18.53 | jmul|w | wasn't trying to knock him |
| 19:19.08 | dataw0lf | WHATEVER DOOD |
| 19:20.00 | bigdog | today has been a crappy day |
| 19:26.36 | dataw0lf | ngrep rox |
| 19:26.57 | fungus | ~praise ngrep |
| 19:26.58 | jbot | All hail ngrep! |
| 19:29.48 | bigdog | running ssh traffic inside https rocks |
| 19:30.02 | bigdog | ~praise linux |
| 19:30.02 | jbot | All hail linux! |
| 19:30.58 | Utah_Dav1 | how do you get ssh to run inside https? |
| 19:32.59 | bigdog | i push it all through an https proxy server and i have sshd running outside on 443 port |
| 19:33.41 | dataw0lf | that's the best. |
| 19:33.43 | dataw0lf | good job bigdog |
| 19:34.21 | bigdog | so then Utah_Dav1 i set up dynamic port forwarding on my box (sock4) proxy |
| 19:34.26 | bigdog | so really that gives me |
| 19:34.52 | bigdog | local sock4 proxy (ssh) -> https proxy -> sshd -> internet |
| 19:35.21 | Utah_Dav1 | so all your system admin sees is your https traffic? |
| 19:35.35 | bigdog | yeah and it is all encrypted |
| 19:36.12 | bigdog | all they know is that it is https and it goes to my home box |
| 19:37.02 | bigdog | one thing to not about ssh is that you can set up a proxy with it |
| 19:37.05 | bigdog | that is the nice thing |
| 19:37.24 | bigdog | and that your outside box needs to listen on a port that your proxy allows to go out |
| 19:37.29 | bigdog | i could do 80 if i want |
| 19:37.38 | bigdog | or i could ftp too |
| 19:38.15 | macnewbold | yeah, but encrypted traffic on those ports would definitely raise suspicion :) |
| 19:38.23 | dataw0lf | but they can't prove anything. |
| 19:38.30 | bigdog | that is the thing |
| 19:38.40 | bigdog | cause i am still using the proxy |
| 19:38.54 | macnewbold | on the https port, they have no reason to really suspect, though |
| 19:38.58 | bigdog | so they can log it, but they can do anything |
| 19:39.03 | macnewbold | unless the bw goes really high |
| 19:39.05 | bigdog | yeah |
| 19:39.27 | bigdog | that is one thing i need to watch |
| 19:42.20 | dataw0lf | anyone got Ubuntu on AMD 64? |
| 19:44.00 | Utah_Dav1 | that's cool |
| 19:48.03 | bigdog | now gentoo on amd 64 is nice |
| 19:50.17 | fungus | FreeBSD on amd64 is nice until it is put under high load. :( |
| 19:50.54 | dataw0lf | I just need someone to test this package, i don't need commentary on other, less cool, distros or OSs. |
| 20:17.55 | macnewbold | fungus: so what's so bad about FreeBSD/amd64 under high load? what happens to it? |
| 20:18.24 | fungus | Kernel panic. |
| 20:22.55 | dataw0lf | hee hee |
| 20:25.07 | bigdog | gentoo works great |
| 20:25.22 | dataw0lf | hmph |
| 20:26.24 | fungus | But I actually haven't tried FreeBSD/amd64 since January, so it may be fixed by now. |
| 20:31.25 | bigdog | dataw0lf, now that you are around, you know any good python gui creator? |
| 20:31.52 | bigdog | man php is getting so out of hand...they are on php5.1 beta 3 |
| 20:32.31 | bigdog | sometimes i wish they would just start getting it all stable instead of changing things around |
| 20:32.34 | dataw0lf | bigdog: like a widget format application ala glade ? |
| 20:32.56 | dataw0lf | or, like, a gui library. |
| 20:32.58 | bigdog | yeah like glade...i like glade but wondering if there is anything else out there |
| 20:33.01 | dataw0lf | boa |
| 20:33.31 | dataw0lf | boa constructor : boa-constructor.sourceforge.net |
| 20:33.47 | bigdog | ooh i will have to check it out |
| 20:33.57 | dataw0lf | then wxGlade is ok |
| 20:34.03 | Utah_Dave | wxWidgets rocks for python. |
| 20:34.10 | dataw0lf | jea. |
| 20:34.53 | bigdog | ill check them out |
| 20:35.25 | dataw0lf | http://svn.zzq.org/websvn/filedetails.php?repname=ironforge&path=%2Fsrc%2Fironforge_admin%2FIFAdmin.py&rev=0&sc=0 |
| 20:35.29 | dataw0lf | eco's handiwork with wxPython |
| 20:35.39 | dataw0lf | him and tierra re the wxwidgets masters |
| 20:35.43 | dataw0lf | s/re/are |
| 20:37.31 | bigdog | was the gui done with wxglade? |
| 20:38.23 | dataw0lf | Doesn't look like it. I doubt eco would use that anyways. |
| 20:41.25 | tierra | you get to know wxWidgets fairly well when you have to implement a MDI interface, cut/copy/paste, undo/redo command stacks, dockable windows, and I've lost track of how many dialogs I've written up... |
| 20:41.53 | bigdog | y |
| 20:42.03 | bigdog | boa looks nice though |
| 20:42.57 | dataw0lf | tierra: you down for some hawt movie action tonight? on me? |
| 20:43.00 | dataw0lf | err. |
| 20:43.02 | dataw0lf | I'll pay for it. |
| 20:43.06 | dataw0lf | don't get any ideas. |
| 20:43.26 | bigdog | whatz up honey |
| 20:43.33 | dataw0lf | Why I never! |
| 20:43.37 | tierra | not unless it's some badass movie I've been waiting to see for a while |
| 20:43.58 | dataw0lf | don't think there's any anime .. |
| 20:44.16 | bigdog | there is no good movie out right now |
| 20:44.31 | bigdog | i did watch constantine last night...disappointing |
| 20:44.33 | tierra | speaking of which, I got my hands on a copy of Casshern the other day that I haven't watched yet |
| 20:44.45 | bigdog | i was waiting for some to say "follow the white rabbit to hell" |
| 20:45.18 | tierra | http://www.apple.com/jp/quicktime/trailers/casshern_large.html |
| 20:50.45 | dataw0lf | how about Dark Water? |
| 20:50.50 | dataw0lf | it's got Jennifer Connelley in it. |
| 20:52.55 | tierra | she's hot, but I'll have to pass |
| 21:00.27 | dataw0lf | :\ |
| 21:06.57 | bigdog | i had some wallpaper that i was told to take down |
| 21:07.29 | wps | it was effecting the firewall? |
| 21:07.48 | bigdog | no it was degrading to linux |
| 21:08.12 | bigdog | it was the pic of the freebsd daemon with linux grabbing his ankles |
| 21:08.21 | tierra | haha |
| 21:08.54 | bigdog | some perl guy got pissed off about it and told my boss |
| 21:09.34 | bigdog | needless to say i was reminded about the policy and told to remove it |
| 21:09.44 | tierra | ( ads may be nws ) http://www.skins.be/framepic.php?id=19941&size=1024 <- my current work wallpaper |
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| 21:37.09 | bigdog | i just want wallpaper i can stare at all day |
| 21:39.49 | dataw0lf | wps: see the messages I sent regarding those VirtualHosts |
| 21:40.21 | wps | k |
| 21:45.03 | macnewbold | bigdog: so what's the "work policy" on wallpaper? Must be pro-linux? |
| 21:45.24 | bigdog | no grabbing ankles allowed |
| 21:45.53 | toxs | kissing butt is ok though ? |
| 21:46.19 | dataw0lf | hehe |
| 21:46.20 | bigdog | here is a small image of what i had -> http://homepage.tinet.ie/~cullenm/2dart/regi.jpg |
| 21:46.34 | bigdog | i thought it was funny |
| 21:46.36 | toxs | lmao |
| 21:46.56 | dataw0lf | that's awesome, and is visual confirmation of what I was discussing with fungus earlier in #urapug :) |
| 21:47.54 | dataw0lf | did you guys know that someone on hotornot wants to meet me? I just got notified by email. |
| 21:47.56 | dataw0lf | fyi |
| 21:48.12 | bigdog | its a guy |
| 21:48.23 | bigdog | he wants to be your freebsd daemon |
| 21:48.30 | toxs | lol |
| 21:48.32 | dataw0lf | hawt! |
| 21:53.16 | bigdog | dataw0lf, so where does this person live? here in utah? |
| 21:54.59 | dataw0lf | yes. |
| 21:55.09 | dataw0lf | I get messages like these every day |
| 21:55.39 | dataw0lf | but that's because I'm 'hotter than 92% of men on this site' :D |
| 21:56.50 | bigdog | whatz up trogdorr? |
| 21:56.58 | bigdog | jbot, welcome trogdorr |
| 21:56.58 | jbot | [all in unison] Hi, trogdorr! |
| 21:57.20 | dataw0lf | TROGDOR! |
| 21:57.21 | dataw0lf | TROGDOR! |
| 21:57.30 | dataw0lf | Trogdor was a man, I mean, he was a dragon man |
| 21:57.41 | dataw0lf | Er, maybe he was just a dragon |
| 21:57.46 | dataw0lf | But he was still |
| 21:57.48 | dataw0lf | TROGDOR! |
| 21:57.50 | dataw0lf | TROGDOR! |
| 21:57.59 | dataw0lf | Burninating the countryside |
| 21:58.06 | dataw0lf | Burninating the peasants |
| 21:58.12 | dataw0lf | Burninating all the peoples |
| 21:58.22 | dataw0lf | In their thatched roof COTTAGES! |
| 21:58.25 | dataw0lf | THATCHED ROOF COTTAGES! |
| 21:58.37 | bigdog | jbot, wake trogdorr |
| 21:58.38 | jbot | trogdorr: GOOD MORNING!!! |
| 21:59.05 | dataw0lf | And the Trogdor comes in the NIIIIGHT! |
| 21:59.20 | fungus | http://zer0.org/daemons/other/bsd3.jpg |
| 21:59.24 | bigdog | look i pooped a trogdorr in the toliet |
| 21:59.50 | trogdorr | wow, some trogdor obsession! |
| 22:00.03 | bigdog | and he wakes |
| 22:00.06 | trogdorr | i was burninating and just checked the chat window here :) |
| 22:00.12 | dataw0lf | fungus: ha, like that has any authority since it's from some noob with a 0 .. in .. his.. website... err, nevermind |
| 22:00.29 | dataw0lf | When all the land is in ruin |
| 22:00.38 | dataw0lf | And burnination has forsaken the countryside |
| 22:00.45 | dataw0lf | Only one guy will remain |
| 22:00.48 | dataw0lf | My money's on |
| 22:00.50 | dataw0lf | TROGDOR!!!! |
| 22:00.52 | dataw0lf | TROGDOR!!! |
| 22:10.26 | macnewbold | ~trogdor |
| 22:11.55 | dataw0lf | Trogdor is from the 'dragon' email by Strongbad of Homestar Runner fame |
| 22:11.59 | dataw0lf | http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/dragon |
| 22:39.16 | trogdorr | i didn't know that there is a homestar wiki. that is insane that someone has that much time |
| 22:40.32 | trogdorr | i love it! |
| 22:48.51 | macnewbold | ~trogdor is trogdor, from the 'dragon' email by Strongbad of Homestar Runner fame |
| 22:48.51 | jbot | okay, macnewbold |
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